"Freedom of speech row as talk on Islamic extremists is banned," by John Steele for the Telegraph:
A leading university has been accused of "selling out" academic freedom of speech by scrapping a talk on links between the Nazis and Islamic anti-semitism after allegedly receiving emails from Muslims protesting about the event.
Matthias Küntzel, a German author and political scientist who specialises in the threat of Islamic fundamentalism, was told yesterday by the University of Leeds that a talk scheduled for yesterday evening, and a two-day workshop, on Hitler's Legacy: Islamic Anti-semitism in the Middle East, had been cancelled because of security fears.
In a statement yesterday, two academics in the Leeds German department, which had organised the event, claimed the university had bowed "to Muslim protests". Dr Küntzel said he had given similar addresses around the world and there had been no problems.
He added: "I was told it was for security reasons - that they cannot shelter my person. But I don't feel in any way threatened.
''I know this is sometimes a controversial topic but I am accustomed to that and I have the ability to calm people down. It's not a problem for me at all.
"My impression was that they wanted to avoid the issue in order to keep the situation calm. My feeling is that this is a kind of censorship.''
He has given the talk at Yale and in universities in Jerusalem and Vienna.
Dr Küntzel said the contents of emails described to him did not overtly threaten violence but "they were very, very strongly worded''.
He added: ''It's stupid, because I also talk about Christian anti-semitism.'' The university last night emphatically denied censorship, saying the organisers had not given it enough notice to arrange for stewards to be on duty at what was bound to be a potentially controversial event.
The university said it only found out about the event on Tuesday, though the organisers claim posters went up weeks ago. Dr Annette Seidel Arpaci and Morten Hunke, both members of the German department, said in a statement yesterday: "Dr Küntzel's talk is part of a series of scholars' and artists' talks at the German department.
''The series is supported by a grant from the School of Modern Languages, who did not raise any issues during the grant application process."
The statement added: "The reason the university gives for the cancellation of the talk and seminars by Dr Küntzel are security concerns.
''These concerns are founded on emails received by the office of the Vice Chancellor. The sudden cancellation is a sell-out of academic freedom, especially freedom of speech, at the University of Leeds."
One of the protest emails, from a student who describes himself as ''of both Middle Eastern and Islamic background", complained that the title of the event was "profoundly offensive''. It added: ''To insinuate that there is a direct link between Islam and anti-semitism is not only a sweeping generalisation but also an erroneous statement that holds no essence of truth."
Someone is lying, or needs to read his Qur'an.
However, last night the university denied the claims. It said: "The decision to cancel the meeting has nothing to do with academic freedom, freedom of speech, anti-semitism or Islamophobia and those claiming that is the case are making mischief.
''Nor are we bowing to threats or protests from interest groups. The meeting has been cancelled on safety grounds alone and because - contrary to our rules - no assessment of risk to people or property has been carried out, no stewarding arrangements are in place and we were not given sufficient notice to ensure safety and public order.''
Err..
"Nor are we bowing to threats or protests from interest groups. The meeting has been cancelled on safety grounds alone and because - contrary to our rules - no assessment of risk to people or property has been carried out, no stewarding arrangements are in place and we were not given sufficient notice to ensure safety and public order."
In other words, if this goes ahead there will be a riot so we have to cancel it.
So they ARE banning it because of the threats.
Bye bye free speech. Hello mob rule.
Oh, for the non UK readers, Leeds is the Islamic heartlands of the north, right next to Bradford; famous for mass segregation between Muslims and Non Muslims, localised sharia law, home of some of the London Tube bombers, religious riots, segregated schools etc.
A real hot bed of Islamic radicalism and a picture of the new british sharia we will soon all be living under.
The futures looking bright in the UK!
Methinks Leeds doth protest too much!
"The meeting has been cancelled on safety grounds alone and because "
...Gadzooks, now who would violently object to a scholastic discussion about a talk on links between the Nazis and Islamic anti-semitism ?
...maybe the followers of the most violent group of people on the planet?....
The bomb and the bullet are Muslim discussion methods...
''Nor are we bowing to threats or protests from interest groups. The meeting has been cancelled on safety grounds alone and because - contrary to our rules - no assessment of risk to people or property has been carried out, no stewarding arrangements are in place and we were not given sufficient notice to ensure safety and public order.''
So now you will take care of the assessing and the stewarding and invite the gentleman back...Right?...Stay Tuned
Dr. Kuntzel added, "It's stupid because I also talk about Christian anti-semitism." Yes, and that subject has been discussed many times and admitted to by many Christians, including the Pope. Of course, critical thinking and admission of guilt is not in the Muslim handbook. They are the eternal victims, and, followers of the religion of PEACE. And, if you question that factoid....watch out, angry mobs, throat slashings and bombs are coming your way.
"One of the protest emails, from a student who describes himself as ''of both Middle Eastern and Islamic background", complained that the title of the event was "profoundly offensive''. It added: ''To insinuate that there is a direct link between Islam and anti-semitism is not only a sweeping generalisation but also an erroneous statement that holds no essence of truth."
Everything truthful is profoundly offensive to these thin skinned ones. No wonder lying is considered a virtue in Islam-they just can't handle unvarnished, self evident truths.
Within a few months a book will be published, with all kinds of material, some of it entirely overlooked or unknown, and the entire contents never assembled in such a thoroughgoing fashion as before, will be published. And the contents of that book will blow up -- if it still needs to be blown up -- the contention by Bernard Lewis and others, his slavish acolytes -- that antisemitism in Islam is a new thing, merely a recent import from Europe. And then Matthias Kunzel and others will discover, if they did not know before, the long history of antisemitism in Islam -- an antisemitism different in its promptings from the historic antisemitism of Western Christendom, which by now is merely mental pathology exhibited by those seeking a Simple Explanation of Their Mental Disarray, but antisemitism nonetheless. The historic impulse for both antisemitisms, however differently they developed, remains the same: the need of early Christians, who were Jews proselytizing among other Jews, as the second-in-time monotheism, not to say how wonderful the first-in-time monotheism was but to be corrosively critical of it, in the same way as in the fight for market share, IBM did not promote its product by saying nice things about Apple. And the third-in-time monotheism, created deliberately as a fighting faith to justify, and promote, conquest by the Arabs of Christians and Jews (and then Zoroastrians), went even further, and appropriated the major figures (turning them into "early Muslim prophets") and stories and histories (often distorted and twisted) from the sacred texts of both the Jews and the Christians.
This book, by the indefatigable Andrew Bostom, will appear and put paid to the pleasing myths that Bernard Lewis has helped to cultivate, perhaps more than he realized or even now realizes, about the supposed "absence of antisemitism" in "traditional" Islam.
NY prisons sued over Muslim head covering ban
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
The US Department of Justice's civil rights division filed a religious discrimination lawsuit against the New York Department of Correctional Services alleging the city's prisons discriminated against Muslim officers by barring them from wearing visible symbols of their faith on the job.
The suit was filed Thursday in Manhattan on behalf of Abdus Samad N. Haqq, a prison guard from Brooklyn who was ordered in 2005 to stop wearing a kufi - a knitted skullcap that carries religious significance for many Muslim men - while at work.
"Americans are not required to abandon their religious beliefs when they report for work," said Assistant Attorney General Wan J. Kim in a statement announcing the lawsuit.
The muslims have accomplished what the Nazis could not. They are dictating what is happening in British academic life.
The Nazis might have been defeated in 1945, by they're still winning today thanks to their spiritual Meccan brothers.
This is what's really going on. The numbers of Muslim youths are enormous. So they can pull this sh!t today. It was a far different day in the early 1970's when the Who recorded their acclaimed "Live at Leeds" album at this same university. Back then the white British birthrates were very high, the audience was full of young white British. Today the faces at Leeds are far different with the Muslims trying to make Leeds University part of Dar Al Islam.
Other UK immigrants are OK. It's the Muslims who are the tricking time bomb.
The Nazis might have been defeated in 1945, by they're still winning today thanks to their spiritual Meccan brothers.
Mecca, Munich what's the difference? Of course I'm talking about the Munich of Hitler's day
we were not given sufficient notice to ensure safety and public order.
ok, how much notice is needed to reasonably ensure public safety, and then lets get on with protecting academic freedom and not bow to actual or imagined intimidation.
JIHADAPHOBIA.
I want to coin a new term, JIHADAPHOBIA. that is an infidal's ingrained fear of muslim reaction to anything deemed anti islamic or anti muslims on the infidal's part.
So lets say an infidal who lives in a secular multi cul;tural neighberhood put up a sign saying " puppies for sale". a muslimm walking ny gives him a dirty look an dsays that dogs are haraam in islam and therefore so is the sign. immediatly the infidla has visions of himself alone and bound with muslims standing over him with sharp knives. He can't call for help and he knows that no one can save him. "look", says a muslim, "your PM says we are peaceful people, bush says islam is peaceful. so if you die it will be your own fault not us."
So the infidal immediatly take down the sign and locks the doors an dwindows hoping that no other muslim saw his bad sign. this is Jihadaphobia.
Methinks Leeds doth protest too much!
Posted by: jhl95
When I grew up Leeds was famous for its Football Team and for the WHO - LIVE AT LEEDS.
Guys.. if we ever get PISSED OFF enough and truly serious.. We'll KICK their scraggly butts right off this planet!
We have to get our own Lefties under control before we take on the ifascists... the ibots.. BLECHHH the ibots...
DISGUSTING!!
Let's all get some sense here and CLEAN HOUSE all over EUROPE!!
THIS IS ***OUR*** LAND!!!
***OUR*** HERITAGE!!!!
VIVE LA RESISTANCE!!!!!!!
By the way.. I am PROUD to be "islamophobic". It shows that I am capable of thinking for myself. I know how to use logic. I'd call the people who gather here "ISLAMO-SAVANT" or "ISLAMAWARE".
Why exactly should we NOT hate what seeks to destroy us?!
Should a Jew not hate a Nazi?
We are truly dealing with a depraved mindset called Lieberalism!! It is more than just a mere mental disorder!!
Liberalism is an IMMUNO-DEFICIENCY VIRUS!!!!!!!!!
This virus blinds us and incapacitates us.. the host can never rid itself of the infection as long as its very own immune system is being attacked from within.
I am beginning to hate our own Left more than islam!
But what makes India do the same foolish things that we are doing now? THEY aren't a bunch of soft fat Westerners are they??
The Nazis might have been defeated in 1945, by they're still winning today thanks to their spiritual Meccan brothers.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
Excuse me Sir.. You're insulting the Nazis. /sarc off
Allafanculo said, "But what makes India do the same foolish things that we are doing now? THEY aren't a bunch of soft fat Westerners are they??
No the Indian leaders are cowards and are jihadaphobics. So afraid they are of Muslim reaction that they bend over backwards to appease them.
But we have seen that there are many Hindu Indians, unlike euros who will not take any Islamic bullcrap. We have seen the Gujarat riots in which Muslims were killed left and right over the burning of the train by Muslims. There are many brave Hindus who will not hesitate to fight the Muslims. That is why nowadays in India, the Muslims are very careful not to inflame tensions. Instead they are doing what they love to do that is set the Christians against the Hindus and vice versa. . Previously they tried to set the Sikhs against the Hindus but it didn't last. They are always planning and plotting to somehow defeat Hindus so that they can call India "their holy Muslim land".
There is little doubt that islamic antisemitism has mutated thought the absorbtion of the vile antisemitism of nazi ideology. Those processes a re well dicussed on the Internet.
Spin meisters will use this to try and claim that there was no antisemitism in Islam prior to the import of Nazism.
This is a falsehood which must be contested.
If one refers to the Christian scriptures and the Koran, it is elementary to conclude that Islamic and western antisemitism were of totally different natures.
On the one hand , jews were a conquered and enslaved people who were to be despised but not feared.
On the other Jews were the DEICIDE peoples and therefore extremely dangerous said to possess satanic powers .They were to be feared and despised.
To the Arabs, Israel represented a huge dishoour to Islam. A nation of dhimmi slaves who humiliated the islamic forces on numerous ocassions by refusing to be destroyed and made to return to their state of Dhimmies within the Islamic world.
To the Christian western world Israel represented their worst fears, namely that a dangerous people had achieved the self determination that had always been denied prudently by christianity.
At best such self determination had to be controlled and administered by constant western supervision lest they wreak havoc amongst the world.
So if Israelis erred and commited attrocities, this was an obvious sign of the evil nature of the Christ killers, and arose strong passions in westerners some of whom would had long given up their christian beliefs, yet retained their antisemitism when the roots of their prejudices had long vanished.
When the palestinians commited attrocities. a different set of values was applied because they were not deicide peoples historically regarded as an immense danger to western society.
The Islamists,thanks to nazism, understand full well the nature of western antisemitism and have played it like a violin to subvert westen thought for decades
When the time comes and "dirty bommbs", are exploded in western cities, the gound must be prepared so the blame is put on the shoulders of Israel and the Jews, just as it has been already for 911.
Lack of intellectual freedom at universities, imposed on our children by the urge for conformity inspired by Marxism, and personal fear of the 6th Pillar of Islam.
"The suit was filed Thursday in Manhattan on behalf of Abdus Samad N. Haqq, a prison guard from Brooklyn who was ordered in 2005 to stop wearing a kufi - a knitted skullcap that carries religious significance for many Muslim men - while at work."
comment by 'The OmegaMan'
There's a huge difference in wearing a head covering because you believe that's it's a strict religious edict, and wearing one because it's an identifier of you as a devotee of a particular cult.
If a specific job requires headgear for safety or as part of a uniform, than wearing those are the conditions of employment. Accepting employment implies accepting the conditions; refusing to comply is a breach of the agreement.
Where is it written that EVERYONE is equally eligible for EVERY position?
Just as an aside, the RCMP revised their uniform code to include turbans for Hindu members as it became painfully obvious that the RCMP urgently needed Hindi speaking recruits in the wake of the bombing of Air India Flt. 182 fiasco www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/03/16/air-india-advance050316.html - 47k - 15 Mar 2007 -
The uniform turban:http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030201/windows/main2.htm
Sorry, just to clarify: the trial fiasco occured quite a while AFTER the hirings but the BOMBING occured prior to. (Apparently the Hindi speakers weren't as helpful as one would have hoped...)
To insinuate that there is a direct link between Islam and anti-semitism is not only a sweeping generalisation but also an erroneous statement that holds no essence of truth.
--- Deeply offended and happily ignorant Moslem U. of Leeds student
Oh yeah?
... if a Jew seeks refuge under a tree or a stone, these objects will be able to speak to tell a Muslim: "There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him!"
--- Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 40, Number 6985
From what were the Jews were seeking refuge in this passage taken from the oh-most-holy-and-sacred Islamic scripture?
Same old. Less than 1% of the world's non-Moslem population are aware of that passage and others like it.
Look for the Moslems and their brothers-in-harms --- the media, the academy, the permanent governments, the entertainers, non-Moslem clerics --- to keep it that way. With more interfaith dialog and multicultural understand, the team may even be able to lower that figure to 1/10 of 1%.
That is the key to their takeover plan.
" No problem , Everything Under Control "
/ Recorded psittacine Message Off.
I seem to vaguely recall a Quranic verse which also uses the words "making mischief"...