He just has to hit on the right mix of concessions to the mullahs and -- hey, presto!
From The Evening Standard, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
Tony Blair said today the next 48 hours are crucial in negotiating the release of the British hostages.The Prime Minister's comments came as a new picture of the hostages was released by an Iranian news agency. He told Iran the "door is open" to a diplomatic deal.
Mr Blair was responding to comments by a key player in the Iranian government who had raised hopes by referring to secret talks going on between his foreign ministry and the Foreign Office.
Iran's chief negotiator Dr Ali Larijani stressed such moves were at an early stage but added: "If they continue on this path, they can change the situation logically."
Referring to Dr Larijani's comments, Mr Blair said: "The next 48 hours will be fairly critical."
He said Dr Larijani had offered the prospect of an end to the crisis. "If they want to resolve this in a diplomatic way the door is open," said Mr Blair.
Will Tony have a spine left after its all over?
Just a thought...could the urgency of the situation have anything to do with the reports out of Russia that the US will be attacking Iran on the 6th??? That gives the Brits just enough time to secure their release and get them out of there before all h**l breaks loose.
This B.Lier makes me sick that we share the same country. He is an evil man, and doesnt care about the British people. We brits didnt elect him to lick Bush's ass. A favourite pass-time for him
And I'm sure all the Good-Muslims will be out in masses to protest the way Iran is acting Un-Islamic and forcing a Female to wear a hijab when "There is no compulsion in religion" , after all , these Rent-A-Mob idiots have no problem showing up in droves when the Governments try to make Muslim females remove the Hijab or Burka.
Lets wait for the evening news to see the placards denouncing Iran and preaching "Behead those that insult islam".
But I don't see where he actually said that he have two days to save the sailors. It says the next two days are crucial. I think the headline may overstate what Blair is actually saying.
Abdulla,
I don’t believe Mr. Blair was elected to ‘lick the asses’ of the muzzies either. 48 hours – then another 48 hours followed by another 48 hours and so on and so on. A Thatcher he certainly is not!
Abdulla,
I don’t believe Mr. Blair was elected to ‘lick the asses’ of the muzzies either. 48 hours – then another 48 hours followed by another 48 hours and so on and so on. A Thatcher he certainly is not!
Posted by: descendantofacrusader at April 3, 2007 11:24 AM
Abdullah is a troll. Its best to ignore the Muslim wannabee.
Elric66:
Will Tony have a spine left after its all over?
He did not have a spine to begin with.
It is a funny world. We have just seen pictures of Margaret Thatcher looking frailer but dignified and somber in black as a wreath was laid for the 255 British service personnel who died in the Falklands conflict 25 years ago just so that people who live quietly in the Falklands can continue to live quietly.
She had a spine when she was Prime Minister.
See
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6519837.stm
mepeteart:
Just a thought...could the urgency of the situation have anything to do with the reports out of Russia that the US will be attacking Iran on the 6th??? That gives the Brits just enough time to secure their release and get them out of there before all h**l breaks loose.
I think you maybe right.
I think Blair knows something officially that we do not. I noticed the Iraqis trying to find those missing, so-called Iranian diplomats. Looks like an unofficial swap.
He did not have a spine to begin with.
It is a funny world. We have just seen pictures of Margaret Thatcher looking frailer but dignified and somber in black as a wreath was laid for the 255 British service personnel who died in the Falklands conflict 25 years ago just so that people who live quietly in the Falklands can continue to live quietly.
She had a spine when she was Prime Minister.
See
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6519837.stm
Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at April 3, 2007 11:34 AM
He supported the war in Iraq so he did have somewhat aspine at some point. But he is far from a true warrior like Margaret Thatcher. Now she is someone the UK could use today.
Abdullah said: "We brits didnt elect him to lick Bush's ass. A favourite pass-time for him."
We Brits? Abdullah, I don't think that you are British.
Elric66, It is too much fun annoying the Trolls, I can't ignore them.
"This B.Lier makes me sick that we share the same country"
...I am sure he likes you too....
pelayo: If I am not British, what am I then? What is my mother huh? At least am not the product of pigs and apes...Remember when Allah said to some of the bani Israel, 'Become apes and pigs?'
I called this "backbone, backpedal and backdoor-deal" - I should have called it "no-backbone, backpedal, backtrack, backpaddle and yet more appeasement until Tony the Phony disappears up his own backside"
Assalamau Laikum all,
Brother of the deen Janab Abdullah has berated Mr. Blair....am I bothered?
Well actually I am ...I quite like Mr Blair...despite being Kaffur, Mr. Blair is a surprisingly fair man and has said good things about our efforts to keep the Taliban at bay in Pak. In turn Pakistan has urged Iran to set the 15 British sailors and marines free ... We have said that crucially the British soldiers were not in Iranian waters i.e. true or not we are supporting you.
He practices true multiculturalism and is an excellent PC animal.
Ofcourse the British and the Punjab go back a long way.....The British first marched up the Khyber Pass in 1839, on their way to the first Afghan war, which was to end in disaster three years later with the massacre of every solider save one, a Dr. William Brydon, who lived to tell the story.
The British came back up the Pass in 1878 and again were forced by the Afghans to withdraw. The graves of British soldiers killed in the second Afghan war lie near the Masjid Mosque by the top of the Pass.
Each time, the British lost hundreds of men just fighting their way through the Khyber territory, controlled by the Afridis, a tribal branch of the Pathans who since antiquity have served the function of "guardians of the Pass"....you will note that the Afridis also excel in cricket (ignore this world cup though...it's always raining there).
Anyway back to modern times, I don't quite know what happened to the code that captured soldiers simply only give name rank and serial no. as a captured enemy combatant.
It was one thing for Faye to respect and wear a scarf on TV ...but smoking and smoldering as well...that did not go well here in Pak. Where did she gets the cigarettes from...Islam does not allow smoking polluntants.
Still, I wish the captured soldiers the best of luck...I would like to see them released within the next 24 hours...this has gone on long enough.
Tony is a pussy whipped wimp who sleeps with the enemy.
Hopefully Cherie has given him permission to say as much as he has, or he's in real big trouble.
He's like the unarmed leftist jerk living on a street of armed citizens: he owes his security from trouble to both the police and his fellow armed citizens (the U.S.)
all avenues must be explored to their full extent, otherwise the alternative is all out war. does anyone really want that?
"Anyway back to modern times, I don't quite know what happened to the code that captured soldiers simply only give name rank and serial no. as a captured enemy combatant"
-Naseem
wow Naseem, You almost seem suprised that Iran and Islam in General would ignore and violate the Geneva Convention ( an agreement they also signed)by Parading Hostages / POW's around for the Media and basically giving the entire international community the finger. No compulsion in Islam eh? tell that to the Ayatollah . tell that to Ahmadinejad. Tell that to the British HOSTAGES .
Will the gruesome twosome become a regular feature at jihadwatch/dhimmiwatch? Let's hope so.
"Fairly critical" reads like, Or we will follow other options.
Next comes "critical"
I would think the British have seaborne weapons that could knock out the Oil lines leading to the refinery that processes their Gasoline. You just interrupt their ability to produce, as a message.
If the British fire because the Iranians won't return Her Majesty's Subjects. Then by rights, Iran can only respond to Britain.
Who of course, We, the US of A, will defend to the Last Iranian.
If Britain cannot get the EU to bulk up the Trade embargo, then make them do so in the reverse.
Like reducing Iran's ability to make and deliver what they produce. As well as reducing the ability to pay for what the Iranians buy.
There is a price to pay for this kind of Behavior.
Some need to find out what the going rate is.
Gruesome twosome...
I see an arranged marriage made in Hades for these two. I think Naseem would wear the pants.
-XRDC
wow Naseem, You almost seem suprised that Iran and Islam in General would ignore and violate the Geneva Convention ( an agreement they also signed)by Parading Hostages / POW's around for the Media and basically giving the entire international community the finger. No compulsion in Islam eh? tell that to the Ayatollah . tell that to Ahmadinejad. Tell that to the British HOSTAGES .
Posted by: MoBlows at April 3, 2007 12:55 PM
The word of Islam means nothing. Islam teaches to lie so its words are meaningless.
Abdullah
This B.Lier makes me sick that we share the same country. He is an evil man, and doesnt care about the British people. We brits didnt elect him to lick Bush's ass. A favourite pass-time for him
You make me sick that your in my country.
And unlike you, I am 100% English and my forefathers. Blair is 50% English, 50% Irish.
Why dont you make a choice Abdullah:
a) Abandon Islam which is never the truth.
It is false in its claims that it successive to both Judaism & Christainity. And it is a false in it claim to be the religion of peace - a study of Mohammad's life and the Quran, Hadith & Sira easily demonstrates that.
b) Or remain a Muslim and go back to the country of origin that your non-British parent came from.
Wouldn't you be happier in an Islamic country like Pakistan?
Those sailors and marines will never be released by Iran as long as they think there might be military action against their nuclear production facilities. This is their way of preventing that attack. Will it work?
From posting above:
"...I don't see where he actually said that he have two days to save the sailors."
Here is another article equally vague:
Blair: Next 2 Days 'Fairly Critical'
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRITISH_SEIZED_IRAN?SITE=KYWAM&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
-XRDC
Abdullah - slave of Allah...
Mohammed sold out everything - Islam means Expedience, not Submission. Mohammed wanted the things of this world ( money, power, booty, women's booties ) and would say anything or do anything to get it.
Read Qur'an 53:19 - the oneness of Allah is not even protected. You cling to the words of an evil man and hold them up as the words of a god.
053.018
YUSUFALI: For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest!
PICKTHAL: Verily he saw one of the greater revelations of his Lord.
SHAKIR: Certainly he saw of the greatest signs of his Lord.
053.019
YUSUFALI: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,
PICKTHAL: Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-'Uzza
SHAKIR: Have you then considered the Lat and the Uzza,
053.020
YUSUFALI: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?
PICKTHAL: And Manat, the third, the other?
SHAKIR: And Manat, the third, the last?
053.021
YUSUFALI: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?
PICKTHAL: Are yours the males and His the females?
SHAKIR: What! for you the males and for Him the females!
053.022
YUSUFALI: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!
PICKTHAL: That indeed were an unfair division!
SHAKIR: This indeed is an unjust division!
A slave of Allah ('Abdullah) is never British and never will be, even if he has deceived the Brits to give him a british passport.
And those born into this ideology in the Dar-ul Harb will also never be part of the nation-state, but will always be seen as would-be conquerors and infil-traitors.
Its only a matter of time before this madness wil be reversed...
Here is an update to this hostage story, which was almost ignored by the media:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/04/03/iran-releases-german-tourist-well-not-yet/
Abdallahs are all clones of each other. Naseem and Abdullah are one and the same...influenced by the toxin that is Islam.
Blair is as useless as fish without a bicycle.
The British need leaders with some spine, as does the US. Bush appears to have a spine, but it is artificial. Weak-kneed multiculturists and appeasers are NOT what is needed.
If I am not British, what am I then? What is my mother huh? At least am not the product of pigs and apes...Remember when Allah said to some of the bani Israel, 'Become apes and pigs?'
What are you, you ask?
Well, you are a tapeworm! Or some other kind of a parasite.
And come on Abdullass, you don't really want to hear what we think your mother is. You know, what could she be if she married a moslem? Hm.. Was she number three, or four in your daddy's harem? Just after his favourite she-donkey?
You say you are "not the product of pigs and apes". Being a tapeworm as you are - probably not. But Darwin's theory allows for spontaneous mutation, so we are not a 100% sure.
Anyway, have you finished packing yet? Don't forget to take your mamma and pappa and his favourite she-donkey and get the hell out of here.
Tony Blair is a whimpy candy ass. The Brits made the mistake of not electing the BNP two years ago. The outcome might be different today if the BNP were in power.
Bush is no different either!
Abdullah:
If I am not British, what am I then?
A leech, a tapeworm, a parasite on British society. Muslims have never created anything (well possibly murder, rape if you call those creative acts).
What is my mother huh?
Well a damn fool for sleeping with your father. If he is Muslim and she was not, she should avoided him as if he had got leprosy.
At least am not the product of pigs and apes...Remember when Allah said to some of the bani Israel, 'Become apes and pigs?'
That reveals you are racist at the bare minimum.
And if there is a true God, I dont believe he would do this. So that means Muhammad wrote fiction.
When are you going to leave the UK?
We dont needs Muslims. Muslims are alien to Britain and the rest of Europe.
This B.Lier makes me sick that we share the same country. He is an evil man, and doesnt care about the British people. We brits didnt elect him to lick Bush's ass. A favourite pass-time for him
Posted by: Abdullah
"WE" Brits, Abby-dullard? "WE" Brits??!!! To begin with it's called pastime, bozo!
You moslems always "share" our countries. Isn't that special.
Because of asshats like you I can only hope the Brits vote something VERY right-wing next election.
All of Europe MUST show our ugly mood at the ballot box - Before it is too late!
Let's have a Holy Crusade at the ballot box!!!!!!!
And oh, it's called B.Liar. See, I am continuing your education, you MoFoe!
Liar as in moslem.
Not Lier, which is a word that doesn't exist - unless it's something so esoteric that only Hugh knows about it.
Liar = Practicioner of Taquiyya
Just a thought...could the urgency of the situation have anything to do with the reports out of Russia that the US will be attacking Iran on the 6th??? That gives the Brits just enough time to secure their release and get them out of there before all h**l breaks loose.
Posted by: mepeteart
I've been wondering the same thing. I guess we'll know if we wake up to news of bombing Friday morning. Frankly they are long over due for a good bombing. I'm bloody sick of them.
Another thought is I'm noticing Western women have to wear a head covering every time they are in Muslim countries. So, in order to be fair and equal, when Muslims enter our country, they must NOT be permitted to wear head coverings as it is not our custom.
Blair has already worked a deal or he would not be conducting the high drama of 48 hours.
If I am not British, what am I then? What is my mother huh?
Posted by: Abdullah at April 3, 2007 12:14 PM
I would answer that question for you, Abdullard, but this isn't "Ignorant, Low Self Esteem, Bimbo Watch". This is "Jihad Watch".
GPS receiver for navigating dangerous waters: 95 quid
Outfitting your sailors with AK-47's purchased on the open arms market: US$3,000
Payoff to the mullah's to release your 16 sailors: Priceless
Why do you suppose that the two Moslem apologists above would post on this thread but avoid commenting on the "Suicide bomber slaughters eight Iraqi schoolgirls and a baby" thread, as they were invited to do? One of these individuals posted on another thread as well, so they certainly must have time. Maybe explaining away dead children is not a priority, but getting upset over rising public awareness in the West that there may be an eentsy-beentsy problem with this Islam business, that it may be rather more of an ideology than a spiritual path, that it in fact may be more of a sociopathic code than an ideology.
pelayo: If I am not British, what am I then? What is my mother huh? At least am not the product of pigs and apes...Remember when Allah said to some of the bani Israel, 'Become apes and pigs?'
Posted by: Abdullah
You are the product of cockroaches and ants, Abby. And no, you ain't British.
You are a moslem.
And your mother is a rape victim.
She should have had an abortion instead of loosening your moslem no-good behin upon the innocent British populace.
Is that a clear anough answer or ya?
It's part of my special Ed for ya. Europeanness 101: No moslem can be a European. Those two things are mutually exclusive. It cannot be done. Why do you try so hard to convince yourself that you are British. Accept that you are a Pak instead.
Assalamau Laikum all, Salami and Bacon
May I propose an arranged marriage for Nazeem and Abby?
Here's Abby's ticket home to pak.. into the welcoming burka-clad arms of Nazeem..
Ps. i am offended by thngs like "Assalamau Laikum".
Can we please ban this offensive language?
I see an arranged marriage made in Hades for these two. I think Naseem would wear the pants.
-XRDC
That'll be one giant garbage bag if she has to fit pants under there! I hope Abby's nose isn't overly sensitive - especially on a hot day!
Firstly I see there are plenty that still wish to reside in thier little fantasy worlds.
Secondly someone posted the desire for "holy crusades at the ballot boxes next election".....Good luck with that!
Thirdly posters cannot figure out why such cretons as abdulla and nassem don't go and post on the atrocities against the most innocent of innocent,little children.When the answer is quite clear....It shows the un cut and pure evil that is islam.If they did post anything on such a topic it would be the hollow words "this is not islam,these are not true muslims" such idiotic words are best left unsaid anyway because it amounts to people that are the epitimy of ignorance trying to convince someone with an iota of inteligence that What thier hollow comments are would be true.
Fourthly these people revel in the situation at hand.They sit back smiling and giggling of how iran manages to intimidate superpowers such as Britian and the U.S. At the same time they look for the same signs we do,Are you prepared abdulla? Are you prepared naseem?
Naseem sits at home and comes to this room NOW,but soon and in any day she will have that privilage revoked by her new superior masters.Abdulla has the knowledge of knowing that at any time him being muslim will be called to destroy himself for the mans cause in islam not allahs.Are there passages abdulla in the koran denying suicide as the heroes tool?Would abdulla really get a fast track to heaven?Who cares really i don't.He would be gone and the ones like him.The people affected by his deeds and the ones like him would grow into the armies that humiliate islam to death,teach them civility.set them back to thier own fertile hells for the next great attempt by a thing that can never win.....never.It has no chance.
This is all talk really.It's something to do till the inevitable.We can all talk about the past but those players are all dead.All the warnings of the days gone by in every written ,filmed or statued remembrance have all been shunned.Oh there are the ones who constantly show the prrof of what was said to come (churchill)but people aren't interested.This type of information they take in only while reaching for the ipod or mp3 player.They are more worried about who will be the next teen idol or which star wins the dancing with the stars.They are more interested in mtv than real life,even if you told them in twenty years or fourty years it would all be gone and they would be slaves.With a shrug and the thought someone else will take care of that they go off to more of the 'feel good' things,beats reality right?
Talk talk talk,even myself sitting here writing this drivel and when it comes time for me to post it (a double post will occur i assure you unless it's an irregular day for some reason)i will have to worry or am supposed to worry about offending the dear people of CAIR or perhaps those sweet little muslims those 'moderates' that choose to sit quietly and side with the winner,not earning a damn thing for themselves just like century after century.More of the same old history thats filed into the 'that was then "bin.
We can all sit here and say what we will do if this happens or that happens. Would you?Or are you in that place where someone else will do it?
I can understand islam will do what they say.I mean they are brainwashed into doing so.They look forward to nothing but death,i would too,with open arms wide open arms if it got me out of the hell that is islamic life.Heaven though my dear lunatical friends is not in that equation.heaven to the ideals of islam is fleeting,never to occur.
But to my brothers and sisters in liberty and justice for all i cannot fathom "others will do it for me".This nation since it's birth has outshone anyother nation with it's humanism.we give rice to feed people.leave it to islam to make a weopon out of rice,a vehicle for torture.These people can't even have the humanity to just murder some one they have to make thier victims suffer horificly because allah the god of love and peace calls for it.
One day the left hand will meet the right hand and the clap of thunder that emits from this unity will be the death of the thing that shouldn't be.Mighty men real mighty men not these lunatical maggots that kill women and children to prove thier might but men the real men who face down other men with honor and valor and conviction will come calling in the dens of the dust mites and the vipers,the devils own.
Yes all talk all writing,the same stuff different day.That is until the inevitable comes to town.
If any way shape or form i have been found to have insulted CAIR or any other islamic apologist....GOOD!
And the police post button says....(how many CAIR workers are in that post button anyway?)
Abdulla, you don't have any reason to say someone does'nt have a spine, look at your own people hiding behind women, old people and children. What a bunch of punks!!!!!
"We brits didnt elect him to lick Bush's ass."
abdullah
you're not british
What would the "300 Spartans" say about the 15 British Royal Marines and Royal Navy sailors?
Not a fair question, really. Theirs is not the fault. It lies with . . .
Ah--let's see--HMS Cornhole--oops--Cornwall?
Why did they allow the Iranian Republican Guard boats and its bozos capture their marines and sailors?
OK, not their fault.
Orders from above?
We don't not know, but . . .
Everybody lauds Tony Blair, he's the US's best friend, etc.
So, where does the buck--pound--(?) stop?
Who's above the PM?
The Queen?
Hardly.
So . . .
A "Brit" named Abdullah?
Oh, how the mighty have fallen!
You-all UK Brits accept him as one of you?
I look at him as just another Islamic anus.
each day that passes the BNP's Nick Griffin's party look brighter than ever before. the only british politician with the balls to stick up for the british people sent a "veiled" threat directly to the muslim council of great britain. this man gets my vote at the next elections in may!!!
Dear Sirs
While the British National Party does not normally have anything in particular to say to the Muslim Council of Britain, the times are increasingly abnormal and, in the interests of all communities in Britain, we urge you to give the contents of this Open Letter careful consideration.
The Iranian government must remember that there are large numbers of Muslims living in Britain and that community tensions in this country are even higher now than when the then Home Secretary David Blunkett likened them to a ‘coiled spring’. If any harm comes to any of the sailors and marines who have been taken hostage, then there is a real possibility that the spring could snap – with disastrous consequences.
This would of course be wholly wrong, since the blame for the present hostage crisis should be laid squarely where it belongs: The fundamentalist regime in Iran which is playing cruel politics with fifteen ordinary service personnel who were simply doing their duty and hurting no-one, and with the Blair regime which - having involved British forces in an illegal war which has nothing to do with us - now forces our navy to operate under ‘non-confrontational’ rules of engagement which forced the crew of the powerful warship HMS Cornwall to sit and watch while their comrades were kidnapped by a handful of puny patrol boats.
But, regrettably, rights and logic don’t tend to count for much when people get angry, and news reports of the Iranian kidnappers ill-treating their innocent captives much further than they already have could all too easily lead to retaliation against innocent Muslims in Britain.
We in the British National Party do not believe that British service personnel OR any members of the Muslim community in Britain should have to suffer for the folly and failure of governments, so we urge the Muslim Council of Britain to take urgent steps to help to defuse the situation in this country by unequivocally and publicly condemning the provocative kidnapping of the fifteen sailors and marines, calling for their immediate release, and distancing themselves from the Iranian regime’s cold-blooded breach of the Geneva Convention by parading their prisoners on TV for political gain.
We in turn repeat our condemnation of the Blair regime for involving British forces in an illegal and immoral war to deIslamify parts of the Middle East, an ‘American’ neo-con adventure that has nothing whatsoever to do with legitimate British interests. Our message is clear: “Bring our Boys and Girls home. Not just the fifteen but all of them. Now.”
What message will the MCB give to Tehran and the British people over this crisis? We await your reply with interest.
Yours faithfully
Nick Griffin
Leader, British National Party
The reply will be **** you. Only a military threat back up by a sudden appearance of military power will sway the Iranians. Strong letters are appreciated, but are useless unless backed up by a real threat....
....some news reports on the telly today are (and I may tend to agree), that the capture of the British Navy personnel was a planned operation to give the Iranians a leverage tool to use against the United States, who you may recall, captured several Iranians of some importance, operating in Iraq...The Iranians may want to negotiate a trade of sorts for the captured Iranians...Evidently the United States is correct is saying these captured Iranians were indeed conducting terrorist operation in Iraq with the full support of the Iranian Government...and they must be of some importance to the terror movement.....
...but I still say, you do not negotiate with terrorists....you do use their own tactics of lying to the enemy, get what you want, and then eliminate the enemy....
Ref: Letter from the BNP to MCB
Once again the BNP show how they are far more capable of dealing with Islam than any of the other mainstream parties.
"He practices true multiculturalism and is an excellent PC animal.
.....definition of inept future slave....
....true multiculturalism no longer is acceptable and PC animals are generally stupid....