Five jihadists convicted in London bomb plot

They're also linked to the 7/7 attacks. "5 Convicted in London Bomb Plot," by David Stringer for Associated Press, with thanks to all who sent this in:

LONDON (AP) - A judge sentenced five men to life in prison Monday for plotting to attack targets in London, including a popular nightclub, power plants and shopping mall, with bombs made from a half-ton stockpile of fertilizer.

The trial for the first time exposed connections between the defendants and the deadly 2005 al-Qaida-linked attack on the city's transit system.

Details kept secret to ensure a fair trial showed that counterterrorism agents tracking the five men had also stumbled onto the transit plotters. And despite disturbing signs that the transit plot was in the works, the agents failed to piece them together in time to prevent the July 7, 2005 bombings that killed 52 people, testimony and official briefings during the trial showed.

The revelations are at odds with statements by Tony Blair's government after the 2005 attack. Senior ministers, who a month earlier had lowered the country's alert status, said the 2005 attack was unexpected and the perpetrators unknown.

Omar Khyam was found guilty of conspiracy to cause explosions made from a chemical fertilizer that could endanger life. Also found guilty were Anthony Garcia, Jawad Akbar, Waheed Mahmood and Alahuddin Amin....

The jury that convicted the five men deliberated for nearly a month after nearly a year of testimony in Britain's longesrial. The men, all British citizens, were accused of plotting a series of attacks using more than 1,300 pounds of fertilizer they had placed in a storage unit....

Counterterrorism officials acknowledged that intelligence that could have raised alarms before the July 7 transit attacks was never thoroughly investigated, explaining they were overwhelmed by seemingly more urgent threats.

A government security official gave one-on-one briefings with reporters toward the end of the trial, detailing the path that security agents had followed.

As agents monitoring the fertilizer plot listened in on a bug, they heard one of the July 7 bombers, Mohammed Siddique Khan, warn that he planned to kill non-Muslims, the security official said during the briefing, demanding anonymity to discuss sensitive details of the cases.

A tracking device was placed in Khan's car a year before the 2005 suicide bombings and details of his phone calls and meetings with radicals were reported to Britain's domestic spy agency, MI5, on at least four occasions, he said.

Khan also took militia training in Pakistan with at least some of the fertilizer plotters, a witness in the case and officials said.

But, lacking resources, MI5 never pieced together the shreds of intelligence, the official acknowledged.

``There needs to be that killer fact and it just wasn't there,'' he said, noting that Khan had used several aliases.

Mohammed Junaid Babar, an American FBI al-Qaida informant, had reported that a Briton using an alias - later identified as Khan - attended a Pakistan militia camp with al-Qaida linked radicals from Britain and the United States in 2003.

With accomplice Shehzad Tanweer, Khan visited Pakistan again in 2004.

A surveillance team recorded Khan and Tanweer during a 2004 operation to monitor the fertilizer plot - bugging 100 phone lines, a vehicle and two houses. Agents also took pictures of Khan in the company of suspected terrorists.

As agents eavesdropped, Khan - who called himself Milly - warned he would join the ``Arab mujahedeen to fight abroad.'' But his threat was not uncommon or enough to prompt his arrest, the security official said.

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Now isolate these bastards in prison.

Take away their hate manual.
Forbid them special foods.
And if they wish to grow beards, let it be in solitary.
No TV,
no computers.
No "religious" meetings.

..good work, chaps!...let every tip be taken very seriously...Americans had garnered enough information about a 9/11 attack, but failed to detain those who carried out the attack, fearful that the PC crowd and the defeatocrats would cry "foul, harrassment, paranoia,or information insufficient for action"...

The various intelligence agencies have gathered much more information that will ever be revealed. So much information that it takes time to analyze to determine the correct course of action...

...but we are getting quicker and we are saving lives...

The judge in the case, , Sir Michael Astill, said the men, all British citizens, had "betrayed their country."
-- from the BBC

"Betrayed their country"?

Why should Believers owe any loyalty to any Infidel nation-state? To think that they would or could, and still remain good Muslims, is a failure of understanding, by Infidels, that itself represents a "betrayal of their country."

Those British judges, those British diplomats, those British law-makers in Parliament, those British columnists and editorial writers whose job it is to inform themselves, and to properly instruct others, are the ones who have "betrayed their country" by failing to understand that when Muslims offer their sole loyalty to Islam, and the cause of Islam, and attempt to fulfill their solemn duty to participate in Jihad to spread islam, by whatever instruments are available and seem to them to be effective, they are not being bad Muslims, but merely demonstrating what Infidels should understand -- that the members of the umma al-islamiyya, in thought, word, and wherever possible deed, will demonstrate that their sole loyalty is to Islam.

They did not "betray their country" for there is no country, no Infidel vilayat (a word which, incidentally, is the basis for the Hobson-Jobson "Blighty"). to which they need or should or could offer loyalty, if they are to be good Muslims.

It is, rather, those non-Muslims in authority who have "betrayed their country" by failing to understand, or to engage in sufficient study to come to understand, that Muslims are not "betraying their country" when they show their loyalty is to Islam and Islam alone -- and that to expect them to be loyal in the first place, even to use such words as "loyal" and "disloyal" when it comes to the Infidel nation-state -- is absurd, is based on categories that for Muslims do not make sense.

According to news reports, there's also a Canadian connection. A Canadian Muslim, a computer programmer in Ottawa, (Momin Khawaja, currently in jail -- but I hear apologists want him out) was to put together the detonator for the fertilizer bomb. I guess we in Canada can also thank our non-Muslims in authority who (like their British counterparts) betray Canadian values on a daily basis.

Guess there's also an American connection (a naturalized American citizen, from pakistan) -- Babar is now awaiting sentencing in the States.

From "The Argus" Events leading to UK bomb plot guilty verdicts
By Louise Acford
"These were the events leading up to the trial of seven British men accused of planning to set off explosions in the UK using chemical fertiliser.

September 2001: Mohammed Junaid Babar leaves America for the Pakistan/Afghanistan border vowing to kill American soldiers a week after his mother escapes death in the twin towers attack." yeah, ok, that makes so much sense! The twin towers attack must have been a conspiracy plot to defame Muslims, hatched by the Mossad and CIA!! And, so who spreads such lies? Could that possibly be the UK's "The Guardian", and the BBC, and any number of UK "universities," etc,. etc?

Oh what's that I hear? Tis the slapping of sandals on the streets of Britain as the massed mob of marching Muslims parade and condemn those evil vile creatures who have sullied the good name of Isalm, the religion of peace!

and then I woke up.....

I still don't think we are dealing with the problem correctly. What we are doing is what Israel does and what happens to Israel - more kidnappings and more plots and more killing of Israeli citizens. Muslims continue preaching hate to their children and more being sent to Pakistan to training to be jihadists.

All the muslims do is 'oh, you have our innocent muslims in jails - you must release them immediately'. And the media buys into their crud talk about innocent muslims being jailed, and a crowd of appeasers follow. And by not addressing this war correctly, and letting saudi arabia continue to finance madrassas teaching wahabbism and financing CAIR - is just letting the queen bee continue to make drones.

And I don't have all the answers, but I know that by not dealing with saudi arabia and pakistan (saudi arabia's jihadist training ground) correctly - we will continue to be mired down in this.

I got to admit that Jihadtobejoking is right - I am hearing the deafening sounds of silence from all the 'moderate' muslims - once again. I can't count the times that I hear deafening silence when we should be hearing a lot of noise.

tsk tsk tsk - and they want us to believe there are masses of 'moderates'. Instead what do we see and hear - lone voices who are silenced quickly and even we don't believe it. We think there could be some deception in those protests while letting us think there really are 'moderates' so as to quiet us down and letting us be content that there is no danger from the increase of the muslim population.

I wonder what they hoped to accomplish.

9/11 really was a serious blow to the US (and world) economy. We bounced back through very good leadership and sheer will.

3/11 succeeded in changing the Spanish government.

7/07 was awful--but other than terror itself it didn't seem to accomplish much of anything. It certainly didn't force Blair to remove UK troops from Iraq.

Can some of my UK cousins inform me what a nightclub, a few powerplants, and a shopping mall would accomplish.

Would it send the populace cowering in their homes?

Would it make you more fearful of offending your muslims?

Would it make the average joe grab his cricket bat and take to the streets?

These 5 are malcontents and have little to do with Islam. If it were not Islam, they would be in tights getting ticks in Sherwood Forest following around Robin Hood.
Anarchists abound in every society, but no one is revealing yet just why this case was plead the way it was.

lame cherry writes

"These 5 are malcontents and have little to do with Islam."

Hey lame brain: I think you have little to do with reality.

Maybe the Lame is a Saudi paid troll...hence, the disconnect with reality...comes with the territory.

A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim.

Any questions?

And that's why, if I was a Democrat (which I'm not) I wouldn't vote for Obama if you paid me.

End of Story. You Go, Guiliani!

Is it possible for a troll to post under another commenter's name? This is waaaay off from anything I've read from Lame Cherry.

As a Brit I am delighted to hear of these convictions. Looking forward now to the statement from the Muslim Council of Britain. They were very quick to condemn the police for the Forest Gate anti terrorist raid in 2006, and to warn that it could "damage trust" between the muslim community and the police. I would expect them to have something important to say now that due process has been gone through and guilty verdicts obtained. Not holding my breath though ...

Has Lame Cherry had a breakdown ? A change of heart ? A (gasp !)conversion ?

Maybe someone else is posting under her name. Sure doesn't sound like the Lame Cherry we know.

"These 5 are malcontents and have little to do with Islam"
Posted by: Lame Cherry

(Malcontent = A chronically dissatisfied person)

Well sunshine, you are certainly bang on the mark with that statement, banged up in the clink and will no doubt have little to do with Islam for about 90 years.

Lame cherry sez: "These 5 are malcontents and have little to do with Islam."

Here is what the five have to do with Islam.
They are muslims. That means they have submitted to Allah, and all that goes with that. Every one of them is an Abdallah, slave to Allah, no matter what their real name is. As a submitter you must accept and believe the Quran is the holy word Of Allah, not written by Man, and that mohammad is his messenger. Not many Muslims would argue with that.
How does a submitter act? They act in accordance to the Quran and the behavior of Mohammad, the perfect man. The prime reason they commit any acts at all, is because, Allah did not speak 1400 years ago, he is speaking through the Quran as it is read, in real time.
Justifications for malcontents to act up abound in the Quran and Mohammads traditions...to boil it down to just two, for clarity,

Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

and this: Noble Qur'an:2:190 Footnote: "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite."

Please note the last two lines.

This is what all five, and several billion more than that, have to do with Islam.
Thats why there is no such thing as a radical or a moderate muslim, there is only muslim.
They are all malcontents, because they prefer Allahs heaven to life on Earth.
The five malcontents have everything to do with Islam, they always have, and they always will...

Somebody help this Yank out.

Is this wry British reporting or an acceptance of a world where terrorists openly live among us?

"... they were overwhelmed by seemingly more urgent threats."

"... his threat was not uncommon ..."

Poor Abdullah,

Five of your jiahdi playmates are now behind bars for a long long time. Don't worry dude, with that "special" brain of yours, it won't be long before you join them. Not to worry though, I'll look after your sister and mama and show'em how a real man is supposed to treat a woman.

Yank,

Get with the program. Not that long ago (check out the BBC article, "MI5 tracking 30 UK terror plots" -- November 2006 -- the British spy service went public (that's unusual) -- "MI5 knows of 30 terror plots threatening the UK and is keeping 1,600 individuals under surveillance" -- in short, the UK is being overwhelmed. That's what happens when you get more and more "activists" into the UK. Read Londonistan. Same thing's happening in Canada.

Two others were aquitted, anyone seen the details?

Dear Robert;
Howdy!
I have a question. When they say life in prison in the U.K., do they literally mean LIFE? Or are these guys going to get out in five years.
You have a very good Blog by the way.
Sincerely;
EJO

could some body please explain why not a single country has raised the issue of saudi arabia not allowing other houses of worship built on saudi soil. how come they can fund madrasas, mosque masjid etc all over the world.

"could some body please explain why not a single country has raised the issue of saudi arabia not allowing other houses of worship built on saudi soil. how come they can fund madrasas, mosque masjid etc all over the world."

Posted by: swimmer at April 30, 2007 05:58 PM

Because we are tolerent and to the extent, as is obvious now, tolerent of the intolerent.

Hiprocasy gone beserk.

Hi EJO,

Glad you found us.

IU'm interested in the details of the two acquitted and whether life in prison in the UK is really Life with no possibility of parole.

Swimmer-

Simply bringing a Bible into the Saudi kingdom is an offense.

If they're afraid of a book I can only surmise they don't have much faith in their faithful.

Somebody might want to get this to Robert or Marisol.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18357494/

Haven't heard from Abby lately.. could it be he got scooped up?

EJO

"Life" does not mean life. They will serve at the most 10 years, or even less if they behave themselves.

You know why Muslim "moderates" never march en masse against Islamic terror? In part because they would always have to be marching. That in itself would be very revealing.

Think I'm exaggerating? See the website www.thereligionofpeace.com for a continually updated global list of Islamic terror acts. But then anybody who comes to jihadwatch can see every day news stories from global media reporting on new Islamic terror somewhere in the world.

While it is a victory of some sort, it is rather depressing. It has cost £50 million ($100 million), and much police time. And that is not counting the cost of prison from this point.

Meanwhile other Muslims are active in the UK in spreading their poison and considering terrorism activities.

I would rather have 1-day summary justice where they were executed if they could not explain their terrorist activities, bodies then ground into meal for pig feed (Caligula did something similar to this - it saved his prison bill). The savings to the justice system, manpower and wasted time would be immense.

That would destroy the pork industry overnight and do more 'haram' than good!

If you want to get some idea of what Britain is up against with regard to radicalised Muslims in its midst then have a look at this vile blog by a self-proclaimed "radical Muslim" in Britain.

http://radicalmuslim.blogsome.com/

I hope MI5 is tracking this guy. I despair.

Much of the British press seems to be gearing up to have a go at MI5 for missing the connection with 7/7 bombers, rather than celebrating the success of the investigation, e.g. BBC headline: "Pressure mounting for MI5 terror inquiry". This is just depressing.

Telegraph.co.uk has a generally sympathetic article "Analysis: MI5 in the dock", which makes this comment: "... the jigsaw that began without a picture now shows a network of young British Muslim men, mainly of Pakistani background, who either knew each other or were just one or two removes from people who did. It contains thousands of pieces and more are added almost daily. The daunting task for MI5 under Jonathan Evans, its new director-general, is to fill in the gaps".

Will they realise that it will be easier to solve this "jigsaw" if they concentrate most of their investigations on young, male, muslims with a connection to Pakistan? Or would that be "profiling"? I wonder ...

I'm waiting for the "it's because of the Iraq war" argument to kick in; I've already had one person suggest that to me this morning.

One aspect of the monetary Jihad is to tie-up the courts and police and secret service departments with this kind of low level, "failed threat" activity to drain the agents' and nation's efforts against a more serious attack.

The price the U.K. pays for having invited in these humanoid termites into their midst.

"You lie down with pigs, you get up smelling like garbage."

You get in bed with jihadists, your people end up splattered on subway walls.

duh_swami said:

They are muslims. That means they have submitted to Allah, and all that goes with that.

"...and all that goes with that."

Indeed. And that is the heart of the matter. Their souls belong to Ha Satan - "allah" to them.

Western fantasy constructions like "moderate muslims" or "secular muslims" foolishly try to modify "muslim" into something semi-palatable. Do the hypothetical "moderate muslims" pray "moderate prayers," read only "moderate suras," wish for "moderate sharia?"

Please, the insanity must stop.

As duh_swami noted, a muslim is indivisible and inseparable from islam. Period. No exceptions. They have submitted themselves to allah. They are his.

That the satanic cult of death, islam, is ruled by Ha Satan is proven every day by the incessant worldwide death and horrors that muslims wreak every day on the Family of Man.

It is jihad. Holy war. You had better understand what that really means, muslims sure do.

Waiting for fantasy reformations, or trying to change muslims is pure suicide. How many more must die before this is realized?

Evil is Evil is Evil.

It really is that simple.

"His threat was not uncommon enough" shows that Britain is being overwhelmed by threats. Time to batten down the hatches on immigration and admit that stern lectures from infidel leaders won't inspire jihadis to behave. No jihadis are good jihadis, and the fewer Muslims around the better. Either face facts or face the BNP. Right, mate?

Divide, destroy, conquer etc..., you'd better hope you are not around when some when some home-grown jihadist destoys to blow something up im your vicinity based on the perception that "neo cons christians and their hoes ...politically or militarily rape, plunder and ethnically cleans Muslim lands." What a stupid, baseless ignorant statement. You clearly have no knowledge of history, no knowledge of current affairs and no sense of irony (Darfur, the plight of non-Muslims in Egypt, Iraq and Turkey spring to mind as recent examples). Citing Indonesia as an example where peace-loving Muslims are being victimised by Christians is pathetic, and would be laughable if it was not so sad. (I know Indonesia very well, by the way)

You also say that it is a "lie" that the jihadis have a "unrational (sic) and intangible hatred for the 'freedom' of the west". So, the Jihadis are just misunderstood freedom fighters, internationalists, humanitarians fighting for their oppressed brothers around the world against Christian tyrants in places like: Thailand, Indonesia, Britain, Spain, Morocco, Algeria, Sudan, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. etc. etc.

You sympathise with those attempting to commit mass slaughter against innocent people in my country (Britain). Why don't you just go and F**k Off; you are beneath contempt.

I've just noticed that the terrible and provocative remarks made by the jihadist sympathiser "Divide, destroy, conquer..." have been removed, so my previous post has no context. Anyway, sorry for the invective at the end of my post: he drove me into a state of rage, which on reflection was probably the sort of response he was looking for.

Where are the Muslim Apologists -- the Comedians of JW? What, nothing to defend here?

I honestly think there should be a procedure for stripping these people of their citizenship. Having these characters walking the streets in 17 to 20 years time is unfair to the rest of the population - whom they clearly hate and despise.

I honestly think there should be a procedure for stripping these people of their citizenship. Having these characters walking the streets in 17 to 20 years time is unfair to the rest of the population - whom they clearly hate and despise.
Posted by: wallyUK

Indeed. And not only in your fair country but all of the West. India, too for they have suffered much longer under the yoke of islam.

I find it very very sad that these poor misunderstood followers of the Religion of Peace, should be sentences to such long sentences. A much more suitable punishment should be community service. Like having there heads stuck on pikes outside Regents Park Mosque to disuade other moon loons from doing something similar.

Heads stuck on pikes.

Mel Gibson did an interview with Fox and Friends to fulfill some contract obligation, pushing his movie Apocolypto. Steve Doocy made some smart-ass comment about the drunken police incident. Gibson, without missing a beat, responded that nobody believes what they see on TV anymore. Gibson won.

Mel owes us a movie and seems to be at the point where he doesn’t feel the need to impress anybody. I would like to see him do a remake of Dracula. If you click on the link, don’t miss the ‘alleged atrocities’ section.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_Dracula

Andrew Bolt writes on this:
"If you detect a missing adjective - an adjective which gives a clue to the motivation behind these planned massacres - you’ll find it in the 13th paragraph....... "

Here is the rest - see link below. Pick out the muslim posters. They refer to this site as "jihadcrotch" on any islam related thread.

That shows me they have to disparage it because we are learning more about them than they would like us to.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/what_muslims/

May 1, 2007
http://www.beecy.net/frank/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI

More Islamic terrorist dead today!!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/4/30/195256.shtml?s=lh
Monday, April 30, 2007 7:50 p.m. EDT
Tenet: Al-Qaida's Nuclear Threat Real
YEA LIKE HIS SLAM DUNK??

Oh yea Armatiage CIA and Wilson and new book? Bad intel are we putting 2=2 together yet??

Stop taken sucker punches from this guy and his crew fight back!

Might want to dig a little deeper on the trucker who burned the hwy in CA. Remember they recruit in jail??
Hell bet he even when to the busted trucker school??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Slightly off-topic, but according to the Daily Telegraph (link below), Bob Woolmer, the coach of the Pakistani cricket team recently murdered in the West Indies during the cricket World Cup fell out with some of his players because, in his words, they were "more interested in praying not playing". Several senior members of the squad had become members of the strict Muslim movement Tablighi Jamaat. Toxology reports show that Mr. Woolmer (of British descent) was poisoned before being strangled.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=1DRJNJEQSCE5BQFIQMFSFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/04/30/nwoolmer30.xml

Mr Woolmer was found dead the day after Pakistan's shock defeat to Ireland in the cricket World Cup. Is the gentleman's game of cricket now not even free from jihadi violence?

Assalamau Laikum all,

The british system can be a given a pat on the back for this...and appropriate sentences have been given...nobody deserves to be harmed going about their normal business providing a livlehood for their families.

Certainly, Islam needs to distance themselves away from this type of activity...something I have always said...and I agree that moderates have done nothing , said nothing to this effect.

Peaceful dawa is the only way forward....I simply know that the british would accomodate peaceful coexistance....remember Islam CAN be a religion of peace...it doesn't have to be this way...there are other ways to paradise.

Makes me angry that they call them "5 britons", whats all that about, they are NOT British, they never will be British. They are Indian, Pakistani, or whatever but blatantly not British!!

I agree with the first poster, dgene, isolate them in jail. But i would also deport their entire families, don't care if they are innocent, i'd rather be safe than sorry. And while I'm on a rant, lets ban Sharia law immediately, has no place here.

Exactly, Hugh, and that is what they were told by the people who brainwashed them - Omar Bakri and Abu Hamza (the former is still at large in the Lebanon having been permitted to waltz out of the UK a couple of years ago.) Incidentally, these two men who were subsidised for years by the taxpayers who kept their large families in style, began proseltysing back in the early nineties, long before 9/11 or Iraq - the standard excuse trotted out by the left as the cause of Muslim "grievances."

A judge sentenced five men to life in prison

UK "life" sentences that don't mean life. Khyam, Garcia and Waheed Mahmood were told they would serve at least 20 years, while Amin and Akbar were told they would have to serve a minimum of 17 and a half years.

3 meals a day, TV, computers, use of a gym etc. etc.

lol...not surprising, sleepycat:

Here in the states "life" sentence easily gets you out in only 7 years with "good behavior", from what is nothing less than a college dormitory.
Oh, and don't forget they have a "right" to porno even for sex offenders and child molestors. lovely.
Our systems have obviously forgotten what the word "penal" is all about, & instituting this absurd crap called "restorative justice".

You're not alone in that take.

"Certainly, Islam needs to distance themselves away from this type of activity...something I have always said...and I agree that moderates have done nothing , said nothing to this effect."

Posted by: Naseem

...that is because there is no such thing as an Islamic moderate....







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