"Islamists: Germans will be kidnapped," from UPI:
BERLIN, April 17, 2007 (UPI) -- Concerns are rising about the growing number of terror threats against Germany, formerly a country spared from Islamist violence. Ever since the abduction of two Germans in Baghdad, the Islamists have stepped up the rhetorical warfare against Berlin.
Obviously, it won't stop there.
In a video message to the German TV show "Spiegel TV," the Global Islamic Media Front, or GIMF -- a German language Web site that has in the past posted Islamist videos -- said that more Germans will be abducted in the future. The GIMF said it was relaying the message in the name of the kidnappers of the two German hostages in Iraq.
The kidnappers wanted to tell Berlin that "even if the two Germans are killed, Germans will always be targets for kidnappings all over the world until the German government pulls its troops out (of Afghanistan)," German news magazine Der Spiegel quoted from the message.
It remains unclear whether the Web site hosts are really in contact with the kidnappers; they have in the past posted and edited the kidnappers' video messages to the government.
Berlin-born Hannelore Kraus, 61, and her son were snatched in early February by armed men who entered their home in Baghdad, where the woman has lived since she had married an Iraqi professor. A crisis team has been set up in the German Foreign Ministry to get the pair released. Already, two ultimatums threatening their lives have run out.
And after their out of Afghanistan, then what?
Well since terrorism doesnt work , nothing to worry about.
How completely amusing the UPI states the Germans were "spared" without telling the world why Germans were spared from terrorism.
It wouldn't be all that WMD they helped Saddam get, all that money they launder for terrorists in German banks, all that American information they are sharing with terrorists and all the support they give terrorists now would it?
Gee where did Atta go to "school"? Germany
Gee who can't find evidence to arrest terrorists? Germany
Gee who can't convict terrorists in court or hand them over to America? Germany.
The socialist ilk that runs Germany are the terrorist's whore they are pimping out. They made tons of money just like France and all the elite off of terrorism and use it to implement European policy.
"IF" the Germans are killed??? They are as safe as the British grinners in Iran. Those hostages mean much denaro or marks in terrorist villa accounts.
Germany is a goose to be plucked and the government will not save it's citizens as money is what is important there and not principles.......and certainly not the German people.
That is the story UPI is not telling which everyone in the arena knows.
Give them an inch and they will take a mile.
The Great Prophet (may he rest in peace) taught them that lying to an enemy is good. Making a small threat but sneaking in a big hit is expected.
Allahu akhboom!
Deutscheland unter Allah.
Wenn Sie Heugabeln an den Teufel verkaufen, werden Sie herauf erstochen fertig.
(If you sell pitchforks to the devil, you end up stuck.)
Who’s going to tell Germany that bratwurst is haram?
Denmark may be a pilot valve, but Germany has a way of affecting history. I, for one, encourage the Jihadis to keep talking.
Eisenhower once said of the English-hating Admiral King, that if someone had shot him it would have shortened the war by six months: some of the posters on this blog seem to have a similar knack of making friends and influencing people on behalf of the US.
Merkel was one of the few western leaders to speak in defence of the pope during the 'evil and inhuman' rumpus, is refusing to talk to Hamas until they recognise Israel and is the single most powerful obstacle to full Turkish membership of the EU. At a local level several German lander have banned the niqab from schools and public buildings.
"Denmark may be a pilot valve, but Germany has a way of affecting history. I, for one, encourage the Jihadis to keep talking."
The same Danes who risked much to help Jewish folks escape the clutches of Nazi Germany? Certainly these cannot be the same Danes you speak of?
Be strong Germany! We're all in this together!
They seem to have conveniently omitted what they uttered long ago:
"...and every other country in the world will be a target until they submit to islam."
As if they're kidding anyone.
....you do not negotiate with terrorists.....they will try to be on your doorstep soon, anyway....no matter what they tell you....
Generally speaking [LOL], the German public is not ready to confront reality: Islam will take-over Germany in one or two more generations if the Germans don't fight back now. There are a few Germans and Danes now who recognize this, but far too many more who are content to whistle past the graveyard - which their grandchildren will surely inhabit due to fear/sloth/ignorance/"multiculturalism" on the part ot the current inhabitants. 1683 - Vienna; 2063 - Berlin?
these terrorists are nothing more than opportunitists, and they are so brave they abducted two unarmed civilians.... yeah we see how muslims show their strenght,, ambush
"unarmed civilians"
.....the victims of choice for terrorists (almost always)....
Rather ironic that Germany is now a target of fascism.
"Concerns are rising about the growing number of terror threats against Germany, formerly a country spared from Islamist violence."
-- from the article above
Was the bomb attack on the Berlin disco 18 years ago, by Libyan agents, not prompted by Islam? Was the murder of the Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics not part of the Lesser Jihad against Israel, clearly prompted by the refusal of Arab Muslims to contemplate any Infidel sovereign state, no matter how small (so small its name cannot even be written fully on its territory on any map of the world) in the middle of Dar al-Islam? Have the attacks carried out by Muslims on non-Muslim sites and invididuals, or on the claims about establishing a separate territory for Muslims, or "Caliphate," by several thousand supporters of an imam named Kaplan, or the terroritss of Baader-Meinhof who trained in PLO camps in Lebanon -- does none of this constitute "Islamist violence" that has hardly "spared" Germany, even if some in Germany, currently displayig a remarkable negligence no doubt encouraged by the desire to find every fault with Israel. And that, in turn, is explained by the desire of many in Germany, apparently, to credit the very worst about the Israelis (including the most absurd PLO and Arab propaganda) so as to lessen the burden of their own history, by allowing themselves the to-them soothing notion that, given half a chance, others can behave like Nazis too. Thus after the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, committed by a handful of men, war-maddened, in an impromptu massacre, was likened by too many Germans, then and now, to the premeditated industrial-strength government-organized mass murder of Auswhcitz. For the Americans were guilty not of being Nazis, but of defeating the Nazis and making possible a more decent Germany. And the same felt desire or need by many Germans to believe the worst of Israel and Israelis, not despite but because the Jews were the special victims of the Nazi German genocide, is merely a transparent mental strategy ("see -- the Jews can be Nazis too." And thus the old "we all share in Germany's guilt" becomes, for too many Germans, "others, especially Americans and Israelis, are quite capable of the same crimes as the Germans and in fact commit such crimes"). This is a mental and emotional strategy as transparent as it is stupid, vicious, and cruel.
Hugh-
The Germans (and others in Western Europe) must take a hard-line re Muslims or there will be a revival of fascism in Europe. It will come back with a vengeance. I sometimes suspect that there may be some in West Europe who coddle the snake so it will give birth to a bigger python. Hitler, not long before he croaked in Berlin (4/30/1945) predicted that Nazism would come back, that Europe would be fascist 100 years from 1945. I reach for the Rolaids when I recall that prediction that he made in his bunker as the Russians approached Berlin. I think he said it to his secretary Trudel Junge as he dictated his last will and testament.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think this whole problem may go in a direction that few anticipate. Things don't turn out the way we think they will, especially "conventional wisdom".
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/02/13/germany.hitler/
This hostage diplomacy reminds me of a quip Woody Allen made about his draft status. He said he wasn't 1A, he was classified 1H, which meant he would be taken hostage in the event of an attack. Maybe CAIR members are classified 1H.
Woody said the govt planned to exchange him for enemy held hostages.
CAIR members are definitely 4F and unworthy of serving in the military....
The first thing the Germans should do is to take down the GIMF and round up all its supporters. Seems to me like such a direct threat deserves a direct response.
President Kennedy rumored to of been killed by them too and Princess Diane. They called for stepping up kidnappings of westerners too. I believe U.S. is making such a BIG mistake letting them here too! History knows their past and if people don't just say they must go back to 'their land' we will pay all around the world. Why they can set up here and we cannot go there!?! They want to get rid of any others that are helping us fight them. They too become victims of Islamist and must turn caliphate too. They are doing a good job here. Messing up our economy preaching in our colleges! They have the left hell bent! What securities do we have here? Stirring up commotion on airlines, anywhere. U.S will not be as easy and they know they cannot fight us till we have no back up. They are making sure there will be no one to help us when they finally take over!
There are so many here that are aiding them in their efforts it is unreal. We pay them to kill us! Polosi wants to shake hands with it! Make friends with it! Islamist should not be allowed to be practiced in U.S. nor Germany! They messed up and so are we!
"Woody said the govt planned to exchange him for enemy held hostages.
Posted by: Frank"
.......of course Woody was not talking about hostages held by Muslims....Muslims generally just kill hostages......after torturing them first....
exsgtbrown-
When you're right, you are right. A cat's a cat and that's that.
the memories of the masses of people astounds me. The Germans probably think the muslims speak the truth when they say they have never been attacked before. And I won't count the hours it will take for them to surrender. They are currently over in France, and Spain, taking some lessons in surrendering now. (note sarcasm)
And then after they surrender they will actually believe the violence will stop. Since they don't count the violence that is done to non-muslims now in their neighborhoods and schools, of course they will believe the muslims when they make such inane promises. And they better keep up their jizya payments to muslim nations - or else the violence will start up again. Or just tow the line of whatever some muslim somewhere spews or else the violence will start up again. And if they don't convert to islam fast enough the violence will start up again.
Jens Orback, Minister for Democracy, Metropolitan Affairs, Integration and Gender Equality from the Social Democratic Party said during a debate in Swedish radio in 2004 that "We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us."
Taken From an ariticle from Fjordman on Dhimmiwatch.
If this is the attitude in Europe then you may as well kill your Grandchildren now, why wait for Muslims to do it? You'll do it more quickly and humanely I'm sure.
After the Germans are out of Afganistan the next outrage will be the Germans in the sovereign Islamic nation of Germanistad . it will never end till there are only Muslims and Muslim Nations. why can't people see the writing on the wall and take their words at face value? it starts with booting the infidel out of the M.E, and it ends with the Muslim converting/murdering and booting us out of our own nations.
pez posted : Denmark may be a pilot valve, but Germany has a way of affecting history. I, for one, encourage the Jihadis to keep talking.
Lets hope Muslims keep it up. The last thing Islam wants, or for that matter, the rest of the world wants, is Germany on the war path again.
"Germans will always be targets for kidnappings all over the world until the German government pulls its troops out (of Afghanistan)"
"Germans will always be the targets for kidnappings all over the world until the German government restores the Caliphate and bows to the will of allah."
There. Fixed it.
Hugh points out: Thus after the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, committed by a handful of men, war-maddened, in an impromptu massacre, was likened by too many Germans, then and now, to the premeditated industrial-strength government-organized mass murder of Auswhcitz.
For anyone interested...Auswhcitz was funded by Standard Oil of New Jersey, along with I.G.Farben, Hitlers favorite German industrialist. Supposedly it was Farben who provided the Krypton gas used to kill Jews.
Standard was owned by John Rockerfeller, who claimed he knew nothing of the day to day operations. That fell to Standards president William Farish, a close Bush family friend. Standard oil, and Farish were fined $5,000 each (a paltry amount considering everything) dollars by Congress. This is in the Congressional Record. A year later after taking a lot of flack for his part, Farish committed suicide.
While I am at it, I would add that Prescott Bush, Banker and Senator, and great grandaddy to Geo W, had property confiscated by the US gov under the 'Trading With the Enemy Act'. The Union Bank of NY. He was banking for Hitler...don't you think thats just a little tooo coincidental?
Not only will the jihad against Germans not end with Germany pulling out its troops in Afghanistan but the jihad against Germans didn't begin with Germany's troops being stationed there either. Jihad against Germany has been going on since the 1980s, if not earlier. (A disco in Berlin was bombed by jihadists in the 80s).
Taqiyya = spin. Bigtime.
Duh Swami.
My friends mother works for one of the companies I.G.Farben was divided into. She says all the employees are humourless robots. Some things never change I guess.