More on this story, and on the Muslim demands that are likely to come in the near future.
By the indomitable Katherine Kersten in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:
Last week, I wrote about Minneapolis Community and Technical College, which is planning to install facilities to help Muslim students perform ritual washing before daily prayers. It's a simple matter of extending "hospitality" to newcomers, says President Phil Davis -- no different than providing a fish option in the college cafeteria for Christian students during Lent.MCTC is apparently the first public institution in Minnesota to enter this unfamiliar territory. Where is it looking for guidance?
Dianna Cusick, MCTC's director of legal affairs, is overseeing the project. She referred me to the Muslim Accommodations Task Force, whose website she is using as a primary resource (www.startribune.com/2617). "They've done all the research," she said.
On the site, I found information about the handful of public colleges that have "wudu," or ritual bathing, facilities.
But I also discovered something more important for colleges seeking guidance on "accommodations": Projects like MCTC's are likely to be the first step in a long process.
The task force's eventual objectives on American campuses include the following, according to the website: permanent Muslim prayer spaces, ritual washing facilities, separate food and housing for Muslim students, separate hours at athletic facilities for Muslim women, paid imams or religious counselors, and campus observance of Muslim holidays. The task force is already hailing "pioneering" successes. At Syracuse University in New York, for example, "Eid al Fitr is now an official university holiday," says an article featured on the website. "The entire university campus shuts down to mark the end of Ramadan." At Henry Ford Community College in Dearborn, Mich., "halal" food -- ritually slaughtered and permissible under Islamic law -- is marked by green stickers in the cafeteria and "staff are well-trained in handling practices."
At Georgetown University, Muslim women can live apart in housing that enables them to "sleep in an Islamic setting," as the website puts it. According to a student at the time the policy was adopted, the university housing office initially opposed the idea, on grounds that all freshman should have the experience of "living in dorms and dealing with different kinds of people." That might sound appealing, Muslim students told a reporter in an article featured on the website. But in their view, the reporter wrote, "learning to live with 'different kinds of people' " actually "causes more harm than good" for Muslims, because it requires them to live in an environment that "distracts them from their desire to become better Muslims, and even draw[s] weaker Muslims away from Islam."
The task force isn't operated by overly enthusiastic college students. Its professional staff, based in the Washington, D.C., area, includes coordinators who provide legal advice, teach students to lobby, write letters on their behalf, and help them overcome "obstacles" such as college administrators' concerns about violating the separation of church and state.
The Muslim Accommodations Task Force is a project of the Muslim Student Association of the U.S. and Canada. MSA's mission is to enable Muslims here "to practice Islam as a complete way of life," and its "main goal" is "spreading Islam," according to its website. The association calls itself the "landmark Muslim organization in North America," and says it has chapters on 600 campuses.
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Activists should also frame their objectives in language that Americans embrace. "Most Americans identify with concepts such as 'justice,' 'self-determination,' 'human rights' and 'democracy,' " the guide explains. "These terms will be constructive when delivering your message, regardless of the issue."
Read it all.
Wait! Where's the ACLU on this one?!? Where's the liberal moral outrage at religious overtones to anything in publicly funded education? Someone please call the LA Times and let's get some liberal righteous indignation going here please. Do you think for one moment that this would fly if it was a "Christian" holy water basin? So much for Muslims joining the American melting pot. Wasn't separate but equal ruled unconstitutional?
A number of these colleges who are making Muslim make-overs are community colleges. Community colleges traditionally serve as inexpensive ways to acquire a professional skill or acquire the first part degree in higher education. The Muslim make-overs will take money from budgets already struggling to keep costs down. At some point in the near future, making nice to Muslims will come into monetary conflict with adding more classes to the math and English departments. As for the expensive, private Georgetown University, I am waiting for the time that Friday prayers at the mosque are mandatory for all students, with Dr. John Espisito acting a top religious cop.
When are we going to quit catering to this death cult? When are our leaders going to quit calling it the RoP and tell the truth?
Start preparing people.........it's going to be a long bumpy ride!
Minnesotastan.
Disgust.
Just slow, and calculated manipulations from an aggressive ideology. And of course these university administrations don't see it because they simply don't take the time to evaluate what is really going on here. They think they are just accomodating a religions practices; WRONG! You are accomodating a mostly determined political movement. It has established goals that will be and have been relentless in trying to overtake and subjigate all other religions as well as non muslims. They count on your ignorance, they count on your political correctness, and multicultual adherence to help them achieve their goals.
But if you are true campuses' of free expression and ideas, then why are we seeing conservatives and those that speak out about the practices of islam being suppressed on your campuses?
But of course don't take the time to read Robert Spencer,Bat Yeor,Ibn Warraq,Nonie Darwish,Ayaan Hirsi,Wafi Sultan, Salmon Rushdie, and many many more who have witnessed the horrible affliction which is islam.
It has been happening in Britain and the EU is fast becoming Eurabia.
Yes keep bending over to them long enough and someday you may find yourselves bending over facing Mecca,answering to sharia,answering to a caliphate.
"staff are well-trained in handling practices."
Why am I suddenly reminded of the Eloi and the Morlocks?
It's simple to end this. Start having every single religious group make their demands known. The school will either run out of space and money trying to complie, or will balk and let the lawsuits fly.
Martin Luther King gave his life to change Jim Crow America that included separate bathrooms, eating establishments and sleeping facilities. Shame on the academics who have forgotten this terrible chapter in American history and for reviving those practices.
"Martin Luther King gave his life to change Jim Crow America that included separate bathrooms, eating establishments and sleeping facilities"
Posted by maryrose
Excellent point maryrose,indeed something to expound on re: this article.
Mackie
Little Gaza strips everywhere
There once was a stripper named Little Gaza...
I'm hoping my limerick muse kicks in.
Wiccans want sacred groves planted on campus for their naked fertility rites.
Satanists demand that babies be provided for sacrifice before all finals. (They will settle for cadavers from the medical college.)
Santoria followers wish to carry live chickens with them at all times, in case they need to kill one in order to assure good luck during a pop quiz.
Implode this craven stupidty with utter absurdity.
Let the other students at this school start making ridiculous demands until the administration calls a halt to all such idiotic appeasement.
Let Muslims return to Mecca if they want to soak their feet.
Or their heads.
We've got to do more to wake people up and stop this invasion.
"Activists should also frame their objectives in language that Americans embrace. "Most Americans identify with concepts such as 'justice,' 'self-determination,' 'human rights' and 'democracy,' " the guide explains. "These terms will be constructive when delivering your message, regardless of the issue."
-- from the Muslim website that instructs its members in how to make demands, in an Infidel society, that will remove all perceivedobstacles to the spread of Islam and will make help to expand its presence and its power, whatever this does to the involvement or promotion of one religion over another (and making special accommodations of the kind Muslims are demanding, by any institution that is dependent on taxpayers' money, would violate the spirit and letter of the First Amendment, rightly construed, even if one were to concede -- I don't -- that Islam is to be called, without more, a "religion" rather than, more correctly, as something far more than a religion, a Total Belief System with an all-encompassing politics or rather geopolitics.
One can find on-line all sorts of Muslim webistes carefully giving advice on how to deal with teachers, and then principals (even as to the usefulness of inviting them to share a Muslim meal), in what is not an individual effort, but a systematic attempt to change the nature of public schools, no matter what violence is done to the First Amendment principles, not only the law but the penumbra of the law, of the, for Muslims, entirely uninteresting and unimpressive and irrelevant (save when it can be used as a weapon) document, one the principles of which flatly contradict those of Islam, therefore making it, in Muslim eyes, essentially a tool for temporary use, but nothing more.
Assalamau laikum Mackie,
You say "Yes keep bending over to them long enough and someday you may find yourselves bending over facing Mecca,answering to sharia,answering to a caliphate."
Is there really any doubt Mackie?...what you peoples are essentially doing here on JW is exercising the last rites for yourselves.
This fine institution will soon offer advanced islamic studies ....and may even fund teachers from the Lal Masjid in Pak. That Lund in the middle of that famous picture from the telegraph may even accompany the teacher.
But I acknowledge that this is a piece away...but speakers to announce the Azhan....now that I can see coming along soon.
Please inform all the students at this instution of this...so they can get a good nite sleep...the Azhan will start before sunrise even over the weekends.
Naseem how does it feel to belong to a cult that is deemed heretical by the two major religious streams of islam, sunni and shia?
I for one object to the college spending any money on bathing facilities for Muslims unless all religions are accommodated and by the way Wickens do have their circles sky clad but it is an option they do not have to do when there might be non-Wiccans around this might be one way to scare the Muslims on campus because these people are definitely pagan and practice witchcraft and Muslims still believe in it. Islam should be given no special privileges in the West until such time as Christianity and Judaism are given equal privileges as Islam is dominant in the Middle East while because the of the belif among Muslims that Islam is the dominant equal to or dominated by any other religion by caregiver spent a year in Saudi Arabia and the only way he could read the Bible was having it in a hidden file on his laptop were there the religious police could not find it
Naseem
"People" is a collective.
It never receives an "s"
Of course, adding an "s" to "people" gives you that foreigner feel.
When cancer is discovered in the body,it is isolated, cut out and then treated with radiation to remove all traces of the dreaded disease. Americans are waking up and beginning to complain loudly about the injustice of letting Islam get away with murder. There is a backlash coming that Naseem cannot recognize or understand.
Naseem, Brigitte Gabriele is onto you guys, and she is traveling and e-mailing and alerting average Americans to the bigger threat of a world dominated by Islam. She has the clout and respectability to get the word out having seen what your co-religionists have done to her formerly beautiful country of Lebanon. Don't underestimate the danger to Islam of awaking the sleeping giant that is America. Do you really think we'd give up our beloved freedom so that your kind can turn our country into the cesspool that you are used to calling "home"? Wake up and smell the coffee, Naseem. Or better yet, keep up your spew because it only steels our resolve. And remember, Minnesota ain't the South, nor is it California where you will be competing with the illegal aliens who just left their own hellholes in order to make a better life for their families here and back home. And they're mostly Christians who aren't going to take it kindly when Muslims start telling them what they can and can't do.
Not everyone is as stupid as the people who put up with incessant Muslim whining in Minnesota. But please, keep telling us all about it. You folks aren't the only ones who know how to use our laws to get your way. ; )
I think if i see the wudu happening, I would be tempted to drop my drawers and begin to wash my arse in the sink too....fair is fair...
NATIONAL LAMPOON -- "Muslim House"
Belushi: Oh, man, that's a muhammadan bathroom, you don't wanna go in there!
Ackroyd: Why not?
B: Cuz, they do really weird shit in there.
A: Yeah, right.
B: I shit you not!
A: Yeah, well what do they do?
B: They do Wudu. Yup, that's what they call it. "Doing Wudu." Gotta do your WUDU.
A: You mean Arabic for taking a crap?
B: No dumbass. It's HOLY SHITTING. Shitting for the glory of allah.
A: Drop your draws and wipe your ass, I can do it.
B: No, dumbass! It's a muslim-only thang. There's a little hole in the floor. It takes training to hit it. You miss, you gotta putt it in with your foot, all the while bending and praying to to Mecca, man. And then you gotta wash with your ring finger of the left hand and...
A: Man, where'd you learn all that shit?
B: From this chick in my Comparative Religion seminar.
A: Weird!
B: Yup. I told you. Their freakin weirdos!
Naseem,
You say: "This fine institution will soon offer advanced islamic studies "
Now tell me, what is advanced about rabid Jew hatred, wife beating, stoning, flogging, and suicide bombings and mass murder in the name of Allah?
Advanced Islamic Studies?
BULLSHIT
IS
BULLSHIT
BUT THE STUDY OF BULLSHIT IS SCHOLARSHIP!
Hugh
We need similar how-to and DIY sites for Infidels on how to combat such claims and demands. How about it?
Out of sheer curiosity . . .
*do universities in the middle east provide these foot baths for their students?
*Do they provide prayer rooms? Or are students expected to pray at mosque which does provide these amenities?
*Do airports and/or stadiums in the middle east provide prayer rooms and foot baths?
*Did the six imams make a splash in the airport rest rooms (washing their feet) prior to insulting everyone's intelligence about their 'rights' to their 'prayer' spectacle?
*Are all the corporate entities that have caved in to demands for 'prayer rooms' (did these demands result in multiple prayer rooms - male/female?) also provide 'foot baths' for their 'devout' employees (again, did they provide separate facilities for men/women?
*Will our State Dept follow suit?
*****
What appears to be a minor accomodation eventually develops well beyond the scope of the initial accomodation and into an abomination. Tolerating the intolerable is insanity and this insanity must be stopped.
Assalamau Laikum Jan Vink,
You ask "Now tell me, what is advanced about rabid Jew hatred, wife beating, stoning, flogging, and suicide bombings and mass murder in the name of Allah?"
Who knows really...but the Amerkie just loves it...and wants more of the same...and Islam obliges...me I only concentrate on teh peaceful parts...remember that when you convert to Ahmadi.
separate food and housing for Muslim students
_________
Geez... Where is the Islamic version of Martin Luther King Jr.?
This disgusts me. What is even more disturbing is that all of the "Civil Rights" leaders will probably go along with this crap as "religious tolerance!!"
Idiots!
"Who knows really...but the Amerkie just loves it...and wants more of the same...and Islam obliges...me I only concentrate on teh peaceful parts...remember that when you convert to Ahmadi."
It looks like Naseem has been riding Cat Stevens' peace train. She tells us that we'll be converting to the Ahmadi sect knowing full well that she is considered an apostate and subject to the death penalty under Sharia law. With friends like you, Naseem, who needs Muslims?
Integration trough segregation.
A novel concept.
"and Islam obliges"
...and they do so,,,,gleefully....
"Who knows really...but the Amerkie just loves it...and wants more of the same...and Islam obliges...me I only concentrate on teh peaceful parts...remember that when you convert to Ahmadi. "
nasperm, does ahmadi smell bad as the other muslims, because when I see veiled women, they smell like a tank of goats.
Ever heard of soap?
you hate pigs so much but you smell worse.
I wonder what kind of visa the gunman in Virginiastan was on.. Maybe he was mad that an "infidel" used the "wudu" bathroom so he shot a load of people.
He shot more people than the Mahometan beltway snipers. Let's hope he fries. Sizzle.. snap.. popp....
allahfanculo-
Re: the Virginia Tech mass-murderer- the reports from an eyewitness are that he was an "Asian" man in his 20's, and is already taking a dirt nap.
Naseem you can count on the quiet majority of true American Patriots to take care of you and your ROP. We will know what to do with you when the time comes. For now we are just waiting and watching the things your disgusting religion is doing around the world. Your time will come you can bet on it. Once the word is out about your religion and you make the right people angry then its bye- bye for you(and pipscweek abdullard too). I can't wait
Assalamau Laikum Grunt,
You say "Once the word is out about your religion"
eh....it been out for 1400 years now ...you will never defeat Islam...just prepare your childrens for conversion....remember Ahmadi is best....don't compromise on inferior sects llike sunni or shia.
Good to see your tax dollars are being well spent.
Really, it's taking the concept that whoever screams the loudest to ridiculous extremes.
Americans should start demanding seperate spaces for Hindus, if not why not, don't they want to become better Hindus?
Sikhs
Satanists
Bizarre religious cults(Catholics?).
Colleges like this should be laid siege to, by the demands of every ethnic and loopy religious minority. It would be interesting to watch.
What about Communists, they should have their own dorms, in case they are corrupted by capitalist students.
It'll be seperate eating facilities for cannibals next.
Where the same in the uk, always bending over backwards to placate these primitives.
It's fascism in another guise, that's all. What else can appeal to these people so much, but the certainty of a Hitler or a Stalin, or a Muslim?
It's a solution to everything, so they think, they lack the brain to deal with ambiguity.
About the only thing that can be said for Islam, is like Stalin and Hitler, and just about every other mad dictatorship the world has ever known, is that they kill each other with the same relish as they'd like to kill us.
So ... if I, a non-moslem, wants to use this facility to wash my feet, how are they going to lawfully prevent me?
I am a member of the Religion of DADA.
I demand all urinals be hung upside down!
Naseem,
Jesus Christ already defeated your religion when He died on the cross and rose from the dead. Mohammad just had sex with lots of woman and a little kid, and now he's dead. Nothing amazing about that.
Prepare for your own conversion. I'm praying for you. : )
Mostly like that gunman wasnot than muslim. Too many people here are jumping to concludeing. Only 20% pf america people have fingerprint on file an in some case printprint can be order remove by than court of law. It happen to me that the police wronging arrest me with no evident of wrong doing the judge the police to destory my fringerprint card an all record of the wrongfull arrest includeing my mug shot. An not all people who have fingerprint on files are criminal there are some that ask for your fingerprint be taken since you have easly assrce to control suction like medical coccain and oppian which is still to treat certain illness and all law Enforcement have fingerprint as part of they job, certain civil government officer appointed or ellected are fingerprinted. As the muslim population increase in america more will be done to accumlate muslim belief which only make sence as many highter educration school have christian chapel where christian can pray.
Naseem,
You forget one thing! It might just be important for those of Islam to remember about a vast majority of Americans; it is said best by the phrase: "you will have to doit after you rip my Glock 23 out of my cold dead hand"
"Do you feel lucky punk (substitute Nasseem)"
let's get some athiests to demand the removal of all religious symbolism.
Assalamau Laikum kwg1,
You say "you will have to doit after you rip my Glock 23 out of my cold dead hand, Do you feel lucky punk (substitute Nasseem)?"
I am still writing ...ask the question to the 31 who died at V tech yesterday....ask them if they felt safer with your gun laws.
Do the muslims pay for that themselves?
When the non-muslim counter-movement really gets underway I expect obsequious traitors like Phil Davis and Dianna Cusick will get their just deserts.
"I am still writing ...ask the question to the 31 who died at V tech yesterday....ask them if they felt safer with your gun laws.
Posted by: Naseem"
....to answer your question.....despite the occassional senseless violent domestic dispute or random act by a nutcase....Americans do feel safer with their guns, and by a large majority do not want gun laws...we have seen countries who do have stringent gun laws see much violence...the truth is ..gun laws do not work....
and the following is from Neal Boortz"
"This is undoubtedly the worst school shooting, high school, college or otherwise, in the history of our country. There are some facts, however, about some of these school shootings of which you probably are not aware. Do you know, for instance, that at least three shootings in high schools were stopped by civilians with guns? Civilians, not law enforcement. In one case a civilian was traveling past a school when he saw children running from the building. One told him that there was a student inside shooting people. The civilian pulled his gun, ran in side, and confronted the student. The student put down the gun and surrendered. In another case a high school vice-principal heard that there was a student in the hallways with a gun. He sprinted a half-mile to his car. He had a gun in his car so he had to park off campus. He then sprinted back with the gun to confront the student. Lives saved.
There have been many other cases where civilians with guns have prevented further carnage at the hands of killers. The media isn't fond of reporting these episodes because they don't contribute to the cause of gun control.
The point here is that you are never ever going to get the guns out of the hands of those who want to use them for carnage. Never. In all the years of press releases and statements from the Brady anti-gun organization there has never been one single gun control plan presented that would take the guns out of the hands of criminals. This is the oddity of gun control. Only law abiding people are going to abide by gun control laws. Criminals are not. The anti-gun lobby, and that includes much of the media, will never give any fair coverage at all to the people who use guns to save their own lives, or the lives of others.
Now here's something that I have yet to see reported in the mainstream media. Earlier this year the Virginia General Assembly failed to act on House Bill 1572. The citizens of Virginia are permitted to carry concealed weapons if they get a proper permit from the state government --- unless you are on a college campus. This bill would have allowed college students and employees to carry handguns on campus --- with appropriate permits, of course. It died in subcommittee. After the bill was thrown out up steps Larry Hincker, a spokesman for Virginia Tech, the site of today's carnage, who says "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
So .. how safe did these students and faculty in Norris Hall feel yesterday?
Now nobody can say for certain, but If it had been legal for students, employees or faculty members with permits to carry guns on the campus, is it at all possible that there might be some students alive today who didn't make it through the carnage? Do you think the actions of the Virginia General Assembly stopped the gunman from getting his guns and carrying them to the campus? Of course not. Reports are that the guns had their serial numbers scratched off. The were acquired outside of the normal channels of commerce and illegally carried to the Virginia Tech campus. The law meant nothing to the shooter. It meant something to the victims though, and perhaps that's why there wasn't one person anywhere near the shooter with a gun that might .. just might have been used for self defense.
There are those out there who think that allowing people to carry a concealed weapon on a college campus is an absurd idea. Why so? Just how is a college campus that much different than our society as a whole? Diverse people living together in common environment pursuing different goals. Where's the big difference? What is so special about a college campus that students should not be allowed to own firearms? What if some student in the dormitory had a gun? What if he heard the argument in an adjoining room and had accompanied the student advisor when he went to quell the disturbance? Could that student with a gun have stopped this carnage before it even began? We'll never know. But is there anyone out there who can say for a certainty that the day might have played out quite differently?
Some of the less educated will come forth with lines of thought like "We don't want to return to the wild, wild west." Why not? What research have you put into your clever little "wild wild west" line? Do you know anything about the actual crime rates in the so-called wild west? Would you be surprised to learn that the crime rate in what we now refer to as the "wild wild west" was actually lower than it is in most American cities now? And why would that be? Because people were armed, for one thing. People were armed, and the bad guys knew that people were armed. Tell me ... just what chance do you think a lone gunman would have had in those days in lining up people against a wall and then calmly picking them off one by one. No ... I'll tell you. Slim to none. Oh he might get off a shot or two, but by then he would be the object of some rather intensive target practice.
And let's talk about people with concealed carry permits. Do you think they're dangerous? Do you think they're just wandering around ready to pull their gun and start shooting at the slightest provocation? Again .. check the statistics. People with concealed carry permits are among the most law abiding people in the nation. Oops ... another little preconception shot to hell, so to speak.
Let me ask you another question. In fact, let's set up a hypothetical situation. You're in a class full of people at a university. Let's say that there are 30 people in that room. A predator with a gun walks through the door. He shoots the professor, kills him. He then takes the remainder of the people in the room and lines them up against a wall. He then walks up to the first person and shots them in the head. Now ... let me allow you to change the scenario. We can freeze-frame this situation while you make a decision. Your decision is this: You can put a gun into the hands of one student or a professor in that room, or you can leave things exactly the way they are. What are you going to do? Come on now, let's have it. Which way do you want it? Do you want the predator to be the only one in the room with a gun? Or would you like to have at least the fighting chance that would result if one, maybe two of your classmates had a firearm.
Now believe it or not, there are people out there (we generally call them liberals) who would say; "Oh no, I don't want anyone else to have a gun! They might try to shoot the killer and innocent people might get caught in the crossfire!" Well you can try to find a rational basis for that argument from now until pigs fly, and you will fail. There is no rationality in that argument. It's an argument based in mindless hysteria.
Let's couch the argument a bit differently. Let's say you are the parent of a college student. You get a call from the campus police saying that your child is being held hostage in a classroom on the campus. The hostage-taker has a gun and has already shot one student. The police tell you that they have developed a plan whereby they are going to be able to sneak a gun into the hands of one of the students in the classroom, a student known to the police to be proficient in the use of a handgun. Before the police can take this step they need the unanimous consent of the parents of the students in that class. While you're thinking it over the hostage-taker executes another student. OK ... your decision. What do you say? Are you going to say "No, I don't want any of those students to be armed. I don't care how qualified they are with a gun." Or are you going to allow the gun to be passed to the student.
Now if your answer is that you would allow the gun to be passed to the student, they please explain your rational for the position that the student in question should not have been permitted to have a gun in the first place with a concealed carry permit? You may have difficulty in understanding this, but it really is rather difficult to arm these students after the fact. And insofar as the shooter is concerned ...you do understand that there is no way in hell to have prevented him to come on to that campus with guns once he made up his mind to do so, don't you?
Here's another question for you to ponder. What if the Virginia legislature had passed HB 1572 and it had been signed into law? Then the shooter would have known that there was a strong likelihood that there would be some students, professors and administrators on the campus with a gun. Is there any chance at all that this might have caused the shooter to set aside his plans for carnage? Can you say for a certainty that things would have played out as they did?
Lambs for the slaughter
One more thing. I have a question here. No answer .. just a question. Why didn't some of these students fight back? How in the hell do you line students up against a wall (if that's the way it played out) and start picking them off one by one without the students turning on you? You have a choice. Try to rush the killer and get his gun, or stand there and wait to be shot. I would love to hear from some of you who have insight into situations such as this. Was there just not enough time to react? Were they paralyzed with fear? Were they waiting for someone else to take action? Sorry .. I just don't understand.
And one more thing
I've heard many students being interviewed by the media since yesterday's shooting. They are all very articulate and impressive in the face of this horrible incident, but none more impressive than a student named Jamal. Jamal is from the West Bank. A Muslim. A Palestinian. I heard him interviewed a few times on CNN. A very impressive young man indeed"
Naseem,
I'll try and explain it to you. The guy with the guns yesterday, doesn't care about gun laws. He was going AGAINST our laws, not following them. We don't live like animals do in your country and other countries under Islamic law. For the most part, we respect each other and each others' rights to live peacefully, to enjoy our private property and to live unmolested. I know this must be shocking for you, but it's true.
If you make owning a gun a crime then only criminals will have guns, or in the real world today, only Muslims will have guns. Thanks but no thanks.
I'd like to invite everyone at this post to join the NRA today. Whether you like all of their politics or not, they are the biggest and most powerful gun lobby in the U.S. and they are always there to fight when someone with the thought process of a Naseem comes along and wants to willfully take away our freedoms for yet another idealistic (and impossible) totalitarian plan for us all to have "peace".
Now, if we could just convince the ACLU that these foot baths have something to do with the celebration of a Christian holiday, all would be fine and the foot baths would be gone.
As for the fish being served at the school, has anybody asked their particular religious affiliation?
I'd like to second the recommendation by Isabellathecrusader that readers consider NRA membership. Without the second ammendment, the first ammendment is in peril.
The gunman was most likely than member of the Moonie Cult of South Korea that came other in the 1970's going door to door collecting money for they cult leader in South Korea. Some of they female member where selling they bodies too to raise money for they cult leader.