"Suspected of inciting terrorism abroad and raising money for terrorists." By Robin Millard for Agence France-Presse:
LONDON (AFP) - British police arrested six men in pre-dawn anti-terror raids Tuesday, including radical Muslim Abu Izzadeen, known for calling western leaders "terrorists" and heckling Home Secretary John Reid.
The men, aged between 21 and 35, are suspected of inciting terrorism abroad and raising money for terrorists. They were arrested in and around London and are in custody in a central London police station.
A well-known figure towards the extreme end of British Muslim opinion, convert Izzadeen called Reid "an enemy of Islam" and "a tyrant" when he repeatedly disrupted a speech by the interior minister in east London last September.
"Six men have been arrested under the Terrorism Act 2000 in connection with inciting others to commit acts of terrorism overseas and terrorist fundraising," a Metropolitan Police spokesman told AFP.
"A number of searches are ongoing in connection with the investigation.
"The arrests form part of a long-term pro-active and complex investigation into alleged incitement and radicalisation for the purposes of terrorism, as well as alleged provision of financial support for international terrorism."
The BBC said it understood that the arrests were connected to an alleged incident at a mosque in 2004.
The men, aged 21, 24, 27, 28, 32 and 35, were arrested at four addresses in east London, one in the Southall suburb in west London, and one in Luton, a town north of the capital.
The men were arrested at 5:00am (0400 GMT) by the Metropolitan Police Counter Terrorism Command and local police officers.
They were being held at the high-security Paddington Green police station in central London, Sky News television reported.
Izzadeen, a former electrician, is said to be an ex-spokesman for the radical Islamist group Al-Ghurabaa, an offshoot of the now disbanded Al-Muhajiroun led by radical cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed, both of which are now banned in Britain.
He came to prominence for refusing to condemn the deadly July 2005 suicide bombings in London and has described Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W. Bush as the "real terrorists" for military action in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He was arrested on February 8 on suspicion of encouraging terrorism but was freed on bail.
Former Al-Muhajiroun spokesman Anjem Choudhury, also said to be a prominent figure in Al-Ghurabaa, confirmed that his "close friend" had been arrested.
"They are saying it's in relation to something around November 2004, allegedly collecting funds for terrorism, inciting terrorism," the scolar said.
"People collect a lot of money for orphans and widows at Ramadan, but we know Muslims are guilty until they can prove themselves innocent.
"All these arrests must be seen in the light of the crusade which the Blair regime has launched against the Muslim community, trying to justify their foreign policy through demonising Muslims, and targeting ordinary innocent Muslims who have the fortitude to speak up.
"Abu Izzadeen and other individuals are completely innocent, they do not support any terrorist activities, in this country or abroad."
There's that term again, which so many find so usefully vague.
"All these arrests must be seen in the light of the crusade which the Blair regime has launched against the Muslim community, trying to justify their foreign policy through demonising Muslims, and targeting ordinary innocent Muslims who have the fortitude to speak up."
and the 7/7 attacks were justified, according to these people.
the may elections are coming up people. lets vote in folk whom care about real freedom, britain and who will sort out the immigrants who want nothing more than to rape the british people of their culture, history and generosity.
the time for complacency and liberalism is over.
welcome to the "british resistance" via the polling booths.
Izzadeen should be put under the jail.
Were those arrested immigrants or were they born and raised in Britain?
"Abu Izzadeen and other individuals are completely innocent, they do not support any terrorist activities, in this country or abroad."
Terrorism is in the eye of the beholder. Those arrested likely didn't view what they and others do as terrorism. They are simply following the dictates of Mohammad. They don't kill the innocent. The problem is, innocence is also something they determine for themselves.
According to UBL, the people who died on 9/11 were not innocent because they were "supporting the American system".
I regret that I have but one question on this:
Did the British gov't consult with members of the Islamic communtiy beforehand?
I'm glad they re-arrested that arrogant bastard, Abu Izzadeen. Watching videos of him spewing his hatred makes me ill, he is so smug and superior. May he be gang raped in jail. No wait - he'd probably enjoy it.
People, help me out here. What is the approximate number of deaths caused by Muslim terrorists, including their own people in Iraq, since 9/11?
Anyone have an idea???
I wouldn't even venture a guess Darcy, however I know thereligionofpeace.com keeps a counter of the number of terrorst attacks since 9/11. So there is a good chance someone is compiling the casualty numbers.
Perhaps the London islamic terrorists are getting help from unexpected quarters:
Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee is pushing hard, as he put it, to create "a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe,"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55354
Lovely, isn't it?
Izzadeen, a former electrician
What a bright spark he turned out to be
Here is a little ditty in "honor" of Izadeen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAakQItuyAA
darcy-
If you include the deaths from the tsunami, which only occurred because the local Muslim governments were too busy terrorizing people to implement normal scientific warning devices in the ocean to signal an earthquake -and potential following killer waves- then the number would be about 400,000 since 9/11.
250,000 from the tsunami.
And about 5,000 infidels (9/11, 3/11, 7/7, Bali, Beslan, etc.), and these rest (140-150,000 approx.) killed in Iraq by Muslim-on-Muslim sectarian conflicts, counter-jihads, reprisal killings, and so forth.
Their Inshallah fatalism is the root of their doom, ultimately.
And ours', meanwhile, under the Jihad Juggernaut, if we don't get more people to wake to the danger before it overwhelms the EU and the rest of the West.
"Were those arrested immigrants or were they born and raised in Britain?"
just look at their photos dude. they look like they came straight from saudi arabia. in england we don't raise our children to look and act like this. they will claim to be "british" once they are in jail but believe me, they threw away any alleigance and loyalty to britain once they opened that koran.
quick! Get the Raid! And spray every cockroach nest in U.K. Set out the pigeon traps too!
What is the approximate number of deaths caused by Muslim terrorists, including their own people in Iraq, since 9/11?
Anyone have an idea???
Posted by: darcy
Go to thereligionofpeace.com you can get a detailed count from 9/11 to present day.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2001-2003.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2004.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2005.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2006.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#attacks
People, the Muslim columnist at the LSU Reveille (lsureveille.com) has an article today saying Cho the Va Tech shooter should be called a "Christian Terrorist," and defends Muslim Terrorists by saying "As I have said over and over throughout the past year, you cannot classify a group according to the actions of a few." !!!
It's called "Consider media terms in tragedy." Read it and weep.
religionofpeace.com
this site is overwhelming!
A 'Christian Peacemaker' pacifist is kidnapped by Islamic radicals, held for three months, tortured and then shot to death.
with truth we will defeat these people.
Thank You, A Plague on Both Houses. Would you be willing to post those links on the Comments for the above-mentioned LSU Reveille article?
Sure Darcy... I'll see if I can comment on the article at lsureveille.com
Darcy - I've got the page...
http://media.www.lsureveille.com/media/storage/paper868/news/2007/04/24/Opinion/Consider.Media.Terms.In.Tragedy-2876391-page2.shtml
I'm on it.
Yes, you can comment, anyone can.
off topic, sorry...........
Muslim women will be allowed to wear a veil in court under new guidelines issued following a dispute last year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/6588157.stm
when i go to court im gonna wear a full clown costume and claim it to be part of my religion. i'm seriously starting to hate the west. but isnt this precisely what our marxist masters want?
another great goal from the UK police there, bringing the score for today to 1-0...
but wait, whats this...islum is making a break, they've made it passed the defence...they shoot!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/6588157.stm
what an equalizer! certainly not a team thats defeated, so its 1-1 for the day...what do you make of it all Ron?
ah leon, your post wasnt there when i started typing mine...
still, great minds eh...
so the virginia shooting should not be as important because of iraq?
liberalsim is a mental disorder.
MrTommyAtkins
LOL!!!!!
"The men, aged between 21 and 35, are suspected of inciting terrorism abroad and raising money for terrorists".
Most of these guys are in their 20's or even in their teens, the guys over 40 use the dumbbells for cannon fodder. With time most of the dumbbell-cannon fodder would see how they are being used. Hitler did the same thing via the Hitler Youth and the like in Germany. The whole process of manipulation is monstrous. Kids and and the immature are easy to propagandize because they lack the critical thinking skills and realistic judgement that come to people with time and experience. It's truly evil how these folks are being used.
MrTommyAtkins - you sound like a juggalo.
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/icpinsaneclownposse/justanothercrazyclique.html
take a look at the explicit lyric and see if it reminds you of certain social clubs...
I thought Izzadeen wuzzamoderatemuslim...? Wah happen?
Thank You for posting the reveille link, Plague on Both Houses. I'm not too computer-savvy and don't know how.
Wha'd you think of the article?
@Xavier Cornut
It all boils down to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". It happened in WWII (FDR and Stalin) and it happens every day in the ME.
I think it was the same in 1979. The American people asked what happened in Iran, was Islam a militant religion and did it pose a danger to us?
We were told: no, no, these aren't the true Muslims. They're a small sect. The overwhelming number of Muslims are Sunnis and Sunnis are our friends. Iran is an isolated case. Don't worry. Be happy.
But which sect killed the most Americans? Sunnis.
Then we were told: no, no, these are radical Sunnis. They are a small group of the Sunni community and most Sunnis are our friends. These guys were Saudi, but they also opposed the Saudi government and the Saudi government is our friend.
As for Saddam and al Qaeda: the only reason American troops were in Saudi Arabia was because of Saddam. Sunnis and Shia have never had trouble working against non-Muslims. The only time you see them fighting one another is when they are the only game in town.
From now on, we should let them have their dictators and never listen to anyone who condemns the US for "working with dictators". They don't deserve democracy. If they want freedom, they will have to free themselves.
Anjem Choudhury needs to be put out of business too.
Re-activate the Tower of London. Put them in there and lose the key!
People are missing the point. This is Britain flailing scared. Since Bush was forced to start the withdrawl out of Iraq by the majority of Americans, the terrorists are leaving in mass and most importantly they are not going to Iraq to die.
What is happening now in al Qaeda bin Laden has initiated the final phase of his 10 year manifesto which is to bring massive terror attacks back into Europe and America.
The chatter is intense on the al Qaeda lines now as attacks have been given the go ahead. The problem is the British have no idea what, where, who, when....but they have an idea the how will be nuclear.
They are shaking the tree of known terrorists hoping to crack some information out of them or cause some Muslim sleeper to get cold feet and make a mistake.
When these attacks happen in PLURAL, it is not Blair's fault nor Bush's fault, but the people who have been advocating pulling out of Iraq.
Bush has the terrorism contained and now it is coming back to us. The blood is on the hands of the people who abandoned Iraq and called it a disaster.
They won't say it, but will try and blame Bush but what is coming is the "pull out of Iraq crowds policy".
I wonder with tens of thousands dead if they will be able to sleep at night knowing they ridiculed Bush for three thousand US soldiers KIA.
Not my problem, but I already posted a solution to dig our way out of this instead of complaining about ignorant people. We are in this fight and it is coming to the west now in force.
I hope Abdullah enjoys being a target of al Qaeda along with all the other western Muslims when he was giggling like them about American and British people being attacked....now it will be Muslims along with western peoples dying by Islam's bombs.
What is your point PMK? You don't make any sense? "They don't deserve democracy". "If they want freedom, they will have to free themselves". How about the cubans under fidel castro, the north koreans under kim. Or looking back in history such the jews under hitler or russians under stalin. The closest you can get to freedom under a dictator is if the dictator dies, and even then its extremely hard to implement a democracy without a civil war. The point is, the people themselves cannot bring down dictators without outside help.
from a post above:
"Izzadeen should be put under the jail.
Posted by: astuddis"
LOL. Better still, build one on top of him.
Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee is pushing hard, as he put it, to create "a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe,"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55354
Lovely, isn't it?
Posted by: witness
The same people who want to push Turkey into the EU.
Pity the fools because they do not know what they do..
Yes pr126, make it a monument to Choudhury and Izzadeen.
darcy - I did put up a reply to Shirien Elmasraya's article with links to thereligionofpeace.com
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My reply was this:
The answer to Shirien Elmasraya’s question “why was he not called a Christian terrorist” is simple, but hard for the Western world to accept for some reason. People who are Christian and who also commit killings and crimes can’t justify them in the Christian teachings. Islamic terrorists can and do justify their actions in Islam teachings.
In the end , the words and actions of Mohammed dictate what’s proper Muslim behavior just as it’s Jesus for Christians. Jesus was above all, a man of peace, while Mohammed was anything but a man of peace. Two of the three canonical texts of Islam – the Ahadith [reports on the words and deeds of Mohammed] and the Sirat Rasullah [biography of the Prophet] show this unequivocally. A Christian may try to use scripture to justify or incite others to violence, but because Jesus himself didn’t act that way and the words will never attract more than a handful of listeners to charismatic sociopaths like David Koresh or Jim Jones.
The opposite is true for Islam, however. While many Muslims want to live peacefully with their neighbors, Mohammed himself did not live that way. Because of this, what we call ‘Moderate Muslims’ are not Muslims. Their opinions mean nothing in the trans-national Islamic debate. After all, how can one Muslim, with any authority, tell another to stop doing the very things Mohammed did? Islam never was and will never be a ‘religion of peace’. Mohammed himself was not a peaceful man and by the example of his own life as shown in the canonical texts the most violent element in any Islamic community or society has carte blanche. Muslims can’t be any more “peaceful” than, as a man, Mohammed was himself.
The creator of the Islamic cult-ure, Mohammed, ordered his followers to use his life and words as uswa hadana ‘a model for all time.’ Allah, for all time, commands in the Qur’an that Mohammed is al-insan al-kamil ‘the best of men to be emulated by all Muslims.’ If Mohammed practiced his example today in the free world he would be sharing a prison cell with Charles Manson. Mohammed said: "I have been made victorious with terror." in Hadith Sahih Bukhari:V4B52N220.
Anyone can verifiy this at: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.220
The accepted mainstream sacred Islamic texts show Mohammed to be a pedophile, as well as a rapist, a war criminal, a slave trader, a highway robber and a murderer -- to name of few of his crimes. He was a shaman - a witch doctor who believed in superstitious compulsions and curses.
Making these statements based on Islamic scriptures does not make me hateful. I’m passing on verifiable statements from the accepted canonical Islamic scripture. Nor is making such statements ‘racist’. Islam is not a race. It’s a set of ideas in peoples’ heads and those people have a variety of ethnic backgrounds.
Shirien Elmasraya also argues that ‘you cannot classify a group according to the actions of a few.’ While I do agree with this principle, enough evidence is documented since 9/11 to be able to infer that True Believing Muslims around the world will use the Qur’an and Mohammed’s example to justify violence, intimidation and coercion in the name of religion. They will also kill in the name of Islam and they cite quotations from Mohammed and the Qur’an which back them up on a daily basis.
Please use the following links at thereligionofpeace.com to see a detailed count from 9/11 to present day.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2001-2003.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2004.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2005.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2006.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#attacks
Just one item, the URL for the web site is thereligionofpeace.com not religionofpeace.com.
And wow! Those tables export quite readily into Excel. Here are the table totals by year, number of deaths by jihadists:
2001 3553
2002 2723
2003 3371
2004 7210
2005 7661
2006 15244
2007 6114
How embarrasing to muslims.
Lame Cherry, You keep saying this... "Since Bush was forced to start the withdrawl out of Iraq by the majority of Americans, the terrorists are leaving in mass and most importantly they are not going to Iraq to die." What withdrawal has started? The last thing we have been told is there is a "surge" going on. For the last few weeks you have been cryptically stating in all your posts that all the terrorist acts that we see all around the world are suddenly the result of our getting out of Irag, so all the terroists and al-qaeda have left Iraq. I would ask you to explain that, but you have stated in another post that you won't try to do that because "we aren't ready to hear that". You say that you have already given the solution to how to dig our way out of this. I have been reading JW pretty regularly for the past year, and I don't remember that post, I must have missed that one. I understand that you think all the world's problems are being set up and directed by the commies, using the ignorant muslem m-asses and Islam as the vehicle for their latest bid for world domination, implying that it isn't really Islam that we should be concerned about. You have hinted that you have the President's ear, and he is starting to employ some of your ideas. And somehow you always see the "real" issues behind everything that happens in the world. Please direct me to your website so that I can think something other than that you are the granddaddy of all conspiracy theorists, or that the cheese has slide completey off your cracker. Thanks!
"slid completely"
That is great, Plague on Both Houses! Thank You, I hope others do the same.
I see three others comments... c4, leonthepigfarmer and awake.
My post is still not up there and might not show up? I'll check later.
I've sent a copy directly to Shirien Elmasraya as well.
"British police arrested six men in pre-dawn anti-terror raids Tuesday, including radical Muslim Abu Izzadeen, known for calling western leaders "terrorists" and heckling Home Secretary John Reid."
Good to see AFP down-playing Izzy's credentials. They make him sound almost cuddly. There are plenty of people who call western leaders terrorists and heckle government ministers.
This is rather like saying that Adolf Hitler was 'known for his vegetarianism and his polka-dot moustache'.
Izzadeen is an outspoken Islamist and shameless Muslim supremacist who was, among many other things, captured on film mocking the victims of the London bombings. He is under investigation for terror-related activities.
He is also a thuggish publicity-seeker - I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the next series of Celebrity Big Brother.
the may elections are coming up people. lets vote in folk whom care about real freedom, britain and who will sort out the immigrants who want nothing more than to rape the british people of their culture, history and generosity.
And who are these people? Not the Tories. When has Cameron said anything to stiffen our resolve? The Tories are a party of Pelosis and have tried to play politics Democrat-style with the war for Western civilization. Nor the Liberal Democrats, for obvious reasons. Nor Plaid Cymru or the SNP. And certainly not the BNP, who have been trying to make an issue on immigratioon, but the targets of their vile propaganda were POLISH workers. And if anyone deserves respect, it is the Poles. Many thousands of Polish troops died fighting the Germans, whether in Poland or fighting from Britain. Likewise, thousands of Polish airmen served in the RAF with distinction, and lets not forget Jan Sobieski and his Winged Hussars who triumphed at Vienna in 1683 and saved Europe from being crushed under the Islamic yoke. And it is these who are being abused by the pea-brained BNP.
Plague, yes your post is there. It's great! And thanks to everyone else I saw because her columns are filled with taqiyya and condescension to all others' not Muslim. You should read her previous columns, too. Check next Tues. for her column as well, taqiyya-filled and with hate, contempt, and condescension for anyone not Muslim.
Lasseiz les bon temps roulez.
Plague
You are dead on. I support the banning of Islam in the West for this very reason. Islam by nature is a war like and teaches Muslims to overthrow the dar-al-haub. Why should the West be responsible for risking its destruction because of political correctness? If Muslims really want to reform Islam, its their responsibilty, not ours. But Islam has marxists, socialists and libs as its allies so perserving Western culture will be next to impossible.
Loved where you said Muhammed would be in prison with Charles Manson if he existed today! See ya, Plague.
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The BBC said it understood that the arrests were connected to an alleged incident at a mosque in 2004.
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Is this what Scotland Yard mean when they talk about the rapid response unit!
Weirdly, in the main 6 o'clock TV news the BBC rattled through this story of these six arrests in 10 to 15 seconds. It was immediately followed by a four to five minute piece about how the American military had invented details of her capture to turn Jessica Lynch into a heroine.
Spirit Of 1683
i have no problem with polish people. i used to hang out at the czech house in west hampstead, great czech beers and great people from poland and czech rep.
they have pics and medal on the walls detailing the poles and czechs bravery and courage in the RAF. those people deserve our thanks and gratitude.
id love to see the czechs and poles replace teh islamic trash that inhabit our kingdom, would you?
though, i do take issue with the labour national socialist government herding people around europe as though they were pawns in a sick chess game and using these people to their own devices. ie poles and czechs can legally vote in british elections. guess who will blackmail them to vote in labour?
Lovely, isn't it?
Posted by: witness at April 24, 2007 11:00 AM
Europe aint buying it just look at the election results in France yes even the French will fight for short skirts and the mulsums are even in France only what 5 million out of 60 million??
Is it going to be ugly well it already is the Q? is how ugly is it going to get??
Me I see it getting uglyer everyday because of the apeassing by the libs and the People sitting back doing nothing..
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER AMEN
PS
NC
Tell the press to go home like Va did don't take their shit anymore!
For you know they aid and abet your enemies!!!
To Darcy.....
Go look at the Religion of Peace website they have lists....constantly updated.
Haven't seen Abby around for a bit.. could it be..?
Could it be that he's among the arrested?
Here's a another great video from the same guy who did the abu izadeen song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Tk5PMSiYI
spirit of 1683: So by your logic we should let 400'000 Russian's here as well because they fought so bravely on our side. Give me a break you twat. These people are often educated but will settle for cheap labour. Keeping the poor and working class wages down while the middle class wages go up.
Perhaps the people who support the BNP are not spineless little diplomats who think that an influx of polish will offset the influx of muslims, but actually take a stand against ALL mass immigration.
I hope one day you will understand that our ethnicity, culture, identity and complex social fabric are hugely important to the well being of our nation, and that well-being is far more important than cheap labour.
PMK: You are absolutely right. I was with the US Dept. of State, appropriately nicknamed Foggy Bottom, for six years, and they are a nest of ignorance about Islam and its character down there. This is only to be expected, for they are a representative selection of elite Americans.
As for the arrested terrorists, it's a pity that Old Blightie no longer gives the long drop and a short tow.
The point is, the people themselves cannot bring down dictators without outside help.
Posted by: sonyguru
You don't want to understand.
We help them. We go into the country. We bring down the dictator. We become the occupier. The people who quavered under Saddam suddenly found the gumption to fight against the Americans.
If they can't attack American forces they kill people standing in line in a market. No one blames the killers. They blame the American "occupiers".
I say they don't deserve the sacrifices being made by our soldiers. They are not worthy of them. If they were, they would have done more by now to get rid of the killers.
A "peaceful" Muslim knows every time a bomb is planted or an attack is being planned. A "peaceful" Muslim knows where Osama is at this very moment.
Get it through your head: they're not peaceful.
If the Muslim world really wants freedom they're going to have to prove it, by taking risks.
The man who wielded a pick-axe on the Saddam statue now says he longs for life under Saddam because it was safer. He doesn't blame the jihadists who are killing his countrymen. He blames the Americans.
So next time, leave them all alone.
The Iranians welcomed Khomeini and cheered the kidnapping of our diplomats and to this day cheer on their dictators. They had no trouble getting rid of the Shah. If they're so unhappy with this government then let them do something to prove it. If they value their own safety more than liberty then they don't deserve liberty. They are getting what they deserve: repression.
Do you look at Islam and what it offers people?
These democracies are repressing non-Muslims and practically forcing them to leave the the country.
They burn churches, kill people for practicing other religions. All they understand is the dictatorship of Islam. Even the Muslims who make it to the West and learn what freedom they can have just don't want it. All they want is Islam. It's theirs.
North Korea: We tried. China turned us back. The neighbors of North Korea don't want it changed. We can't solve the world's problems.
Cuba: Likewise. This time it was Russia. Were we supposed to risk nuclear war?
BlowHammed, it is you who are exposing yourself as an utter dolt. What is the difference between a Pole who wants to live and work in Britain, and a Briton who wants to live and work in the US, Germany, or Australia? A Pole who works here in Britain isn't doing so illegally, just like a Briton working in Holland or Germany.
religionofpeace.com
It should be http://www.thereligionofpeace.com to find out the gory details of Islam, whilst religionofpeace.com is a totally different site promoting Islam, and wants the entire world to live under Islamic repression (I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is being used by our gullible politicians). So beware of the difference.
"A" pole is fine. 400'000 + in one year is not. This video explains the obvious reasons why its a problem for those affected. This is a snap shot of real life not your little suburban bubble I'm guessing you live in.
http://www.bnptv.org.uk/channel/news.php?go=fullnews&newsid=301