An update on this story from Reuters, with thanks to all who sent this in:
Dadullah said bin Laden ordered the attack on February 27 at the U.S. Bagram base during a visit by U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney to Afghanistan."Do you remember the martyrdom operation inside the Bagram base which targeted a senior American official . . . this operation was the result of blessed plans put by him," Dadullah said. Jazeera said the U.S. official Dadullah was referring to was Cheney.
"He (bin Laden) guided us through it," he said, adding that no Afghan would have been able to penetrate the base if it was not for the world's most wanted militant.
About 14 people were killed, including one American and one South Korean soldier in the suicide bombing which militants said targeted Cheney. A U.S. official then said Cheney was about half a mile away on the base and was not in danger.
If true, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
frankly, I doubt it as, if true, they did a piss poor job in their methodology (compared to the methodology of their other terrorist hits) and thus, does not sound like the work of al-qaeda...it looks like the work of frantic terrorists hoping to hit anything that may prove a valuable target.
Sounds like odds are they just jumped on the bandwagon on this one.
You are welcome.
and today democrats and those who want out of Iraq voted to give Iraq back to terrorists.
Is just wonderful the far sighted people we have living in America off of the sacrifices of real heroes.
I would some one would dig up his body by now for all that money what is it 25,000,000 or 50,000,000 dollars yes it was dead or alive his choice??
Part of the american teribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIE THEM STRENGTH, WISOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
Re: Do you remember the martyrdom operation inside the Bagram base which targeted a senior American official . . . this operation was the result of blessed plans put by him," Dadullah said. Jazeera said the U.S. official Dadullah was referring to was Cheney.
There is a possibility that Bin Laden is alive, though that is a big "if". However, if that is the case, likely he is in Pakistan (our ally?). If the Bush Administration and others know he is alive, then likely they know exactly where he is located. If this war is to be won, only the most ruthless use of force is going to win it, and that may require the use of "suit case" nuclear weapons, used against the enemy in the precisely the way they threaten the democratic-pluralistic-societies. There must be no sentiment in this matter. The enemy must be paid in exactly the terrorist-nuclear-coin he threatens to use. Let them feel terror in a covert operation.
It's only a matter of time before they are paid back in precisely their own coin. It's coming in the future. It is the only language they understand.
"It's only a matter of time before they are paid back in precisely their own coin. It's coming in the future. It is the only language they understand."
That's if we don't put the Dhimmicrats in charge of running the war.
A man can live for YEARS on filthy water, bug infested cave rats and 5 minutes of sun light a day. Oh yeah, bin laden is still alive and well in Cave-x-stan.
I'll believe it when I see Osama's tape.
"It's only a matter of time before they are paid back in precisely their own coin. It's coming in the future. It is the only language they understand."
That's if we don't put the Dhimmicrats in charge of running the war
From posting above
After six years of GWB, I'm not sure how the Dems can be much worse. We can look back at Clinton's performance but there are a few things to remember:
1. Once the smoke cleared, the damage done to WTC was not visible from the street. The building was repaired. Few people saw the crater that remained in the basement of one tower. President Clinton didn't even think it was worth his while to visit the site. The bombers were found. No doubt everyone thought it was a one-time thing. Clinton then threw himself into the Israeli-Palestinian issue and didn't stop for the remainder of his tenure.
2. Subsequent attacks, discounting anthrax, all took place across the ocean. Everyone thought al qaeda was "over there".
The cliche remains true: 9/11 changed everything. It opened the eyes of too many Americans to the dangers posed by radical Islamists. I have to hope that even the Dems would respond to a future attack on this country with more than the plaintive cry: why do they hate us?
Personaly i hope old osama is still alive and i hope he stays alive long enought to watch his "lions" being made into rugs.
Nothing could send him to his grave more miserably and with even more hate in his heart to ensure his entry into hell than to watch his "mighty" fall.
Osama and the dogs like him will never know ANY type of peace. All they have known is death and carnage.They will walk as ghosts to witness the results of all thier horrific and evil acts.
THE MARINES HYMN
from the halls of montazuma
to the shores of tripoli
we fight our countries battles
in the ,on land and sea.
first to fight for RIGHT and FREEDOM
and to keep our honor clean;
we are proud to claim the title of
UNITED STATES MARINES.
our flag's unfurled to every breeze
from dawn to setting sun.
we have fought in every clime and placewhere we could take a gun.
in the snow of far far off northern lands
and in tropic sunny scenes.
you will find us always on the job,
THE UNITED STATES MARINES
here's health to you and to our corps
which we are proud to serve.
in many a strife we've fought for life
and never lost our nerve.
if the army and the navy ever look on heavens scenes,
they will find the streets are guarded by
UNITED STATES MARINES.
Politics won't save us and our country.Islam only understands one thing and thats The UNITED STATES MARINES.
Rise Heroes the spit upon you is your armor and the curses are your songs.
Submission? I think not.I would rather walk the guarded streets!
So, did anyone bother to find out who the bomber was, and how he knew that Cheney was coming, and how he got access to the base, and who helped him along the way? Or was it simply another case of mental illness? Are they still mystified as to why the lone deranged youth committed this senseless act (that was, by the way, against all teachings of Islam, the Religion of Peace)?
Thats >>IN THE AIR,ON LAND AND SEA
If Osama is dead and getting credit, he is being used for propaganda purposes. If he is alive and directing traffic, he needs to be located and discontinued.
Osama is not the only enemy of the US. I pointed out on another thread, that Hairy Ried was directly responsible for increased American deaths by announcing that the US had lost the war and emboldenening the jihadists. What does a jihadist do when embolden? We all know the answer to that...thanks Hairy...the soldiers on the front lines appriciate you a lot...
PMK....you are too gracious to the rat fink clinton.
Clinton was a failure of a president.No amount of excuse making will change that fact...ever!
Before you accuse me of some sort of political sect...I have no loyalty to ANY politician,no party.....not a single one.
Until the day they realize they work for me and my country and not that i work for them and thier country it will be this way.
This feeling is nothing new.
I am and always have been a sincere supporter in changing the way the political game is played.Especially the lobbying CRIME enjoyed by all involved before durring and after thier selling you and myself down the road.
Theres a lot of calling the kettle black when it comes to the Phrase " The people have spoken".This phrase uses us to thier advantage.
The real question to ask people like Pelosi is just what people it is that they hear speaking? Islam or US?
You can sure bet the lobbying for islam is expanding some major pockets.All for power and profit.All self servers need apply
The first post criticizes the piss poor methodology of the attackers. I think George W. Bush and friends have an equally piss poor methodology in their attacks as well. Everybody's got piss poor methodology. The Bush administration and the bleary gin-sops who support it take no responsibility for the failure of the Mission Accomplished in Iraq. You've already set it up so you can blame poor little Harry Reid for your own failures.
I guarantee: in as little as six weeks after most of our troops are home from Iraq, save for those at the city-huge bases we're building there that no one ever talks about (and you wonder why there're suicide bombers), none of you will give a sh*^ about your phony "democracy" in Iraq.
There's no more terrorism now than there was 30 years ago. The Iraqi civil war is the direct result of the Bush administration's bone-ignorant Cheney/Rumsfeld "superior firepower" approach. Same thing happened in Vietnam. Vietnam crippled us and now Iraq is going to cripple us again. Even a dog learns from its mistakes, guys.
It's astounding that, with all the weapons floating around the globe, most of which are sold by China, Russia and the United States to anyone with cash, you whine about a few pieces from Iran ending up in the wrong hands in Iraq. Get with the program!
I don't want to waste any more of my precious time here at this phony Jihad Watch silliness site.
"I don't want to waste any more of my precious time here at this phony Jihad Watch silliness site."
Posted by: bloodstomper at April 26, 2007 06:13 PM
Thank God for that!
it does not matter if OBL is alive or dead, they use him either way. would be cool to see him in an orange jump suit though. no prayer rugs for oasama!
"the bessed plans" to kill. Only Islam would sanctify violence in this way, which is why Islamic countries are a danger to themselves and others.
osama might be dead by now, and we've not heard from ole no.2 in a while. They need the propaganda so they'll say any thing for the cause.
There's no more terrorism now than there was 30 years ago.
There have been an estimated 8,141 Islamic terror attacks around the world since 9/11/01, as documented and individually listed on http://www.thereligionofpeace.com. If that is the same as thirty years ago--which I doubt--it would only further prove that Islam is the world's most violent religion. So you're either wrong and terrorism has increased dramatically, or it's been at disturbingly high levels for the last three decades (and in which case, so much for the point you were trying to make). It's okay though, crawl back into your denial bubble and continue ignoring the reality about Islam.
Forgot to add seems to be alot more diversity here at Jihad Watch now. lol
bloodstomper said
There were pogroms against Jews in Islamic lands around the turn of the century. The Muslim Brotherhood (predecessor of many Islamic terrorist groups) was founded in Egypt in the 1950's. Yasir Arafat (may his name be forgotten) created the Black September group in the 1970's. It's true that Islamic terrorism goes back more than 30 years. It's also true that it has increased dramatically in the past 30 years. It's also true that that rise is not due to Harry Reid or GWB (Dinish D'Souza-style-argument alert), but to a flood of petrodollars to the region.
BTW, what do you count as terrorism? If a jihadist hacks off the head of an ice-cream vendor in Thailand with a machete, is that a terrorist attack? I doubt it gets counted as such in the statistics, but I think it is. How about if a Hindu temple is burned down? Or an Egyptian pilot steers his jetliner into the ocean? I think "Islam-motivated violence" is more accurate than "terrorism", since terrorism is only one method of Islamic violence.
If you go back centuries at a time, there have been periods of much greater Islamic violence than today. Look at the millions killed in India, for example. Or the invasion of Byzantium. The current Islamic wave is just getting started, by those horrible standards.
I agree with that. I already couldn't care less about Iraqi "democracy" or about the Iraqi people. I'm only interested in the security of our borders and our people, let the Iraqis take care of themselves.
Now they brag about missing their target?
Osama's as pathetic as the pedophile "prophet" himself.
Will he be caught with a little Pakistani girl, next?
Loser.
Really of one thinks about it bin laden is just a tool.The top general this old freak of an arab is.
The reality is that there is probably a coalition of arab states and muslim states that contributes all he needs to keep the murder movement going.There are bigger heads than this freak of nature behind the murder movement.
Bin laden goes and another spawns from hell to replace him.Theres nothing special about him or what he does.There are far too many to count who have the capacity to imagine and follow through on plans to kill innocent people.
In fact it's safe to say that bin laden is the KING,the king of muslim or my spin on nassems word "wuslim" meaning COWARD.
If it looks like a chicken clucks like a chicken....it's a muslim "warrior"
Bin Laden is very revered among Muslims. I find it interesting that while they admire him, the same people often deny his involvement in 9/11. There seems to be a parallel between denying the hatred and violence of Bin Laden and denying it in Islamic doctrine, yet tacitly admiring it. It's probably some sort of psychological mechanism involving outward virtue and inward vice in an honor culture based on outward virtue, social position and power. I like Samuel Johnson's other definition of honor culture having to do with magnanimity and nobility of soul. That's the Western one; it works better.
Sounds like we’re on the way out of Baghdad. It is important to maintain airbases in Iraq to prevent the enemy from organizing. The Gulf will be too dangerous to operate carriers as opposition navies and land-based missiles get more capable.
Say what you want about the Bush administration, but this sure seems to be their ‘Plan B’. The democrats seem to be on the same page. Schumer was talking about changing the mission from policing a civil war to ‘counter terrorism’.
Check out the nuclear-proof aircraft hangar in the bottom-left picture from the link below. Balad Airbase is 25 square kilometers with another 20 square kilometers of no-man’s land as a buffer. Al Asad base in western Iraq is ten miles from the nearest town. Al-Qayyarah base is up north in Kurdistan. Smart moves President Bush. Lets not screw it up now.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/balad-ab.htm
special_guest:
lol...beat me to it. Obviously someone wasn't even around 30 years ago, aying something like that...or gets their intel from a typical university professor ...such as noam chomsky.
But that aside, let them spew their leftist pap. That way we never forget just who and what they are and what they represent (even though that's another forum entirely).
Those of us who've been there and done that already know better (especially serving under that closet marxist from the last administration, who's running in the open now...oh, yeah, and her hubby wasn't too bright either)...and that, too, is first hand knowledge.
These people always in contact with the dead! Living to be Dead! Voices of the Dead!
Close is only good in horseshoes and hand grenades!
P.S. Another angry, ranting Bush bloodstomper(?) from one of THOSE sites.
Quote from above:
"no Afghan would have been able to penetrate the base if it was not for the world's most wanted militant."
Militant. Not a terrorist. Militant.
Reuters kills me. Literally.
It's gets a lot of people killed.
Welcome to the wonderful world of that age-old opposite of common sense: political correctness.
The use of psy/ops has been around for many years, my problem is i'm having a hard time believing the dems ( reid )is not using it against us!!!
Dar al-harb
Never read the [entire] Marines' Hymn before - I like it!
What is the origin of "Rise Heroes the spit upon you is your armor and the curses are your songs"?
Your post serves as a reminder that our freedom only exists because of military force. In today's world that fact has been largely obscured by =POLITICAL CORRECTNESS=.
(Political Correctness itself may be the biggest evil of our time IMO.)
I'd like to see that hymn and other blood-rousing stuff in the newspapers and TV media. If the average US citizen is sleeping with one eye open (instead of dead to the world) it might gradually yield results...BEFORE the suitcase bombs or God-knows-what get here.
Sarge:
Well, I wouldn't go that far...frankly he doesn't have the skills for it. He's only touting the echoed talking points of his own political master who bought & paid for his entire party lock stock & barrel, georgie "the capo" sore@$$.
Beyond that, he'd just another redneck country boy from searchlight, nevada.
(The irony here: He's also mormon, like Mitt Romney, but most mormons vociferously disavow reid for his treasonous comments...and they ARE treasonous).
THAT SOUNDS COMPLETELY BOGUS. They're trying to make believe the old goat is alive.
I always thought they buried him at that burial that our PC lawyers in DC refused to target a few months back.
Cheney's trip to that base was due to a diversion of plans I believe it was due to weather conditions.
Unless that was the "official" version.
So either it was a short-term diversion caused by weather and there is NO WAY OBL had time to find out AND plan the bombing.
OR there is a mole in the Pentagon or another Security Service. Taking out political correctness into close consideration I have to allow for this being a realistic possibility.
I still think the f∞cker is dead and they are trying to make us and their masses think he's alive.
There is the thing about the body though. Give the high price tag on OBL's head I have to agree with the person who stated earlier why didn't someone disinter the stiff to cash in on the bonanza!
I agree...those visits are unannounced, precisely for those reasons (targeting). They just happened to be targeting something else when VPOTUS landed.
obl's not dead either...but that's irrelevant.