At last.
David Hardaker reports for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (thanks to JE):
A group of women in the Israeli city of Ramle has broken the code of silence on a string of honour killings within the city's Arab community. For one woman, it has meant giving police the evidence to charge her own son for murdering her daughter.
Read it all.
...sometimes I feel like I am in the "TwiLight Zone"...
...Death is the Muslim answer to everything...Honor killing deaths are particularily sad.....
I guess if we were talking about the West Bank city of Ramallah, and not the Israeli city of Ramle, the code of silence would remain unbroken.
This one should be emailed to family and friends, particularly females.
One point should be emphasized so as not to escape scrutiny: yes, women are also brutalized here in the West, but at least we recognize this as a social pathology and we imprison the perpetrators. In Islamic culture, violence against women is normative....and largely goes unpunished.
When Muslims talk about the peace that will miraculously appear on the earth if Islam ever dominates, we can point to this honor code as a good example of why they are full of B.S. The thing I've noticed about how Muslims behave in countries where Islam is dominant is that once they are in charge, civil law goes out the window. They can't seem to help themselves when it comes to slaughtering the down home folks. They use Islam as a license to commit whatever creepy act their little minds can muster. They do not bother to restrain themselves when they need to keep a temper in check or when they are having a bad day. The rest of the population cannot anticipate every little nuance that might save their lives or might get them killed.
This is not so in what used to be Christian countries. Say what you want about Christianity. We just don't live like that.
We cannot peacefully co-exist with Islam and this story shows us very clearly, one of the reasons why.
Waterdragon, excellent point.
"Love thy neighbor" versus "kill thy sister".
Civilization versus barbarism.
"Honor thy mother" has an entirely different meaning in Islam......
"I guess if we were talking about the West Bank city of Ramallah, and not the Israeli city of Ramle, the code of silence would remain unbroken."
from a post above.
Sadly, this is true, but it wasn't always that way. Since the founding of the modern city of Ramallah by eight families of the Christian Haddadeen tribe around 1500 AD/CE until 1948, there was not a single known "honour killing". That's because Ramallah was a totally Christian city populated by both the Haddadeen offspring as well as other Christian families who are indigenous to Judea and Samaria.
Then after 1948, hundreds of Muslim "refugees" moved into Ramallah. Today there are only a few hundred Christians left and we see the result of this quiet genocide of the descendants of those first Christians who were converted under Jesus and his apostles.
"Then after 1948, hundreds of Muslim "refugees" moved into Ramallah."
....and western governments allow thousands of Muslim "refugees" into their countries today..
...time to tighten Immigration laws and Ban Muslim immigration.
This is part of what I think that the muslim/islam does is breed sociopathic murderers.
I have been reading up on humans who kill, death, etc. It seems that there is actually a 'blood lust' in some people and some don't know it until they start murdering others. It is an excitement, a 'something' that keeps them on their path of killing. And what do we see, and hear, about all the time? That muslims murder and get away with it due to the koran saying it is ok to kill - infidels, women, and even other muslims if they have a fatwa against them, or they try to get out of islam, or whatever. We hear of muslims slaughtering children in Thailand and some other Southeast Asian islands these day - and they are labeled jihadists and let go with a slap on their hand (if that).
I am still reading up on all of this and it is very interesting.
It would answer my questions of 'why do people kill their own people, such as in regimes of Hussein, the Taliban, Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot, to name a few'? Why is it that these sons of a citizenry are ok with going out and carrying out orders to murder their own neighbors who are unarmed men, old people, women and children. Why is that? Yes, there is a power thing - but here is more to it than that. In the case of Mao, he got some people in one area of the South of China to not only turn on the richer landowners and kill them, but they also ate them.
What turns people like Milosevic into what some say is a murdering thug? I have my own ideas about that and it is due to the fact he saw so much violence of muslims against his own people - he turned like the muslims and fought them. It was just that the muslims are famous for crying 'foul' and claiming victimhood when others they are killing start fighting back. And the politicians and news people listen to only the muslim's version without finding out about what has been going on for decades in Milosevic's case. the same can be said of Count Dracul - and he was an especially stark example of how he turned muslim atrocities against them and impaled them, much to their horror and our horror until I found out that he was raised with muslim's killing his own and his people - the Ottomans.
Our society takes these murderers and gives them a trial, and in most cases a lot of prison time, and sometimes death. We don't let it go on if we can help it.
Muslims train their young boys to start hating (they train the girls to hate too) and in some cases they train young boys to kill. Their agenda is the use of weapons, and other close combat meant to kill - slitting throats, etc. In the schools they only learn the koran. What better book to teach hatred and death to young impressionable minds! I do believe there is an archived article that goes more into this.
It is not unheard of for the mujahadeen to have boys less than 10 learning the ways of a murdering thug in the hills of Pakistan, and in a lot of other places too. I read a book on a spy for the French, and English, who saw a young boy training in those camps in Afghanistan. I can't find the article I read on this subject on the internet now, but the name of a book that mentions it is "Inside the Jihad". The article mentions that there are many boys being trained to kill in Pakistan for jihad. I wish I could find it.
" boys being trained to kill in Pakistan for jihad. I wish I could find it."
Posted by: R_not
the following is a video and story on Palistinian Children being taught to kill;
look this up and view....chilling....
"TODDLER TERRORISTS-IN-TRAINING
By Michelle Malkin · September 06, 2004 12:33 AM
An outrageous Jihadi kiddie show that brainwashed Muslim youths about the glories of "martyrdom" is airing again on Palestinian Authority TV. The clip was yanked after a U.S. Senate hearing last year exposed the despicable broadcast. (The PA has received some $1.2 billion in State Department funding/foreign aid from the U.S. over the past decade.) View the chilling video here. According to Israel National News:"
Muslim immigration into peaceful Western countries should be completely banned, their sick religeon is not compatible with any Western nation.
They seem to ruin every country they move into. Once they reach over 50% of our population, we're in trouble.
They rape our women, kill our people, and burn our cities. Ban them from coming in and kick out who's already here.
R_not wrote/asked: “…'why do people kill their own people, such as in regimes of Hussein, the Taliban, Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot, to name a few'? Why is it that these sons of a citizenry are ok with going out and carrying out orders to murder their own neighbors who are unarmed men, old people, women and children. Why is that? Yes, there is a power thing - but here is more to it than that.”
I’m no expert, but I believe the answer can be found in the following:
“…Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.” (Revelation 12:12 KJV)
Jesus said: “The thief [Satan] cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” (John 10:10 KJV)
“… He [Satan] was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44 KJV)
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil [Satan], as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” (1 Peter 5:8 KJV)
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12 KJV)
But, the Lord God, Jehovah, will soon stop all this senseless killing and punish the murderers…
“Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.” (Isaiah 26:20-21 KJV)
"They seem to ruin every country they move into. Once they reach over 50% of our population, we're in trouble." Posted by: Isamisevil [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 19, 2007 04:49 PM
Islamisevil:
No, we'll be in trouble at 5% !
Take a look at Up Pompeii :
http://uppompeii1.uppompeii.com/2007/04/11/rape-in-the-uk---anonymous-read-this.aspx
where Sir Henry Morgan does an analysis of sexual assaults in certain areas around London. His determination: "a sharply rising trendline: more Muslims means more sex offences." His numbers show that once they reach 5% of population there's a big jump in assault rates; then another big jump at 10%.
Take a look - it's a long article but worthwhile.
I wonder how many Western Pediatricians have not only murdered their sisters, but also easily enrolled all their siblings to participate in the heinous act?
I'm guessing the number would be zero.
How the Israelis can bear being in proximity to these thugs is beyond me. Then again, this is where moral fortitude is essential. The Islamists make the Mafia look like pussycats.
Nonny Mouse,
Thanks for that informative link. If only law enforcement would do something about it.
Join the NRA. Buy a gun, learn how to use it and get a concealed weapons permit. Several of my friends have done this and nobody ever bothers them.
I had an interesting chat today with a friend who has two kids at Virginia Tech. We were talking about the gun ban on campus. Earlier in the day Iheard Ted Nugent talking on the Glenn Beck show and he made some interesing points about how in Washington D.C. you are not allowed to own a gun and he said that's what makes it a murder capital. He said that by not allowing him to carry a gun in D.C. that D.C. was telling him that he would have to be a victim, that D.C. chose that role for him. He said that when he applied for a concealed weapon permit the D.C. powers that be told him he would have to pay $30,000 to get one. What the heck is that about?
Anyway, back to the conversation with my friend...she said she didn't think it was right to let people have concealed weapons permits because she didn't trust people. And then it dawned on me, why have we in the United States, taken on this role of being untrustworthy. We who get up and go to work everyday, pay taxes, support our churches and communities, vote and basically try to be upstanding citizens, why is it that we can't be responsible to carry a gun and use it properly?
A gun is just a tool, that needs to be taught how to use and have it's power respected. If I wanted to I could kill you with a baseball bat, but baseball bats aren't banned. No, the reason guns need to be banned is that we are easily controlled if we can't defend ourselves.
Every woman out there needs to buy a gun and train to use it. And we also need to stop feeling guilty about taking care of business. If some Muslim wants to rape a woman for reading her Bible, that woman should be able to motivate the perp to change is mind. She should be able to give him a choice, to live or to die if he wants to pursue his evil purpose. If she has protection then she'll be in charge of her life and not go the effect of some pig who wasn't brought up properly and needs to be taught a lesson in how to behave around civilized human beings.
If you hit the dog on the nose with the rolled up newspaper enough eventually it will get the message that the kind of behavior it is exhibiting is unacceptable and it will either stop that behavior or be eliminated. As a society we are allowed to decide what kind of behavior is or isn't acceptable. If people from other countries want to come here and rape our women and we don't want them to we are totally within our rights to find a way to cause those same people to stop it. Interesting though, that the same people who want to commit the rapes are the same people that whine about how we shouldn't be allowed to own guns. Pretty self serving, don't you think? As Nancy Reagan used to say, just say no.
The mohammedans are often citing the suppression of street crime (burglary, robbery) and disorder (sluttiness, noisiness) as a recommendation for what a great idea it is to implement sharia.
What really happens is that the criminality moves from the freelance and improvisational to the institutional and official.
The rapes and murders happen, they're just done by official ritual rather than the random nut job.
What's tragically missing is the statistical knowledge to detail crime in the aggregate when crime is a prerogative of the rulers, as opposed to when it is restricted to the offenses of the random citizen.
It's a reasonable assumption that the total of crime goes WAY up under sharia, but is ignored and/or hidden behind officially non-criminal names.
(Certainly the record of the 20th Century is that government crime in general dwarfed private entreprenurial crime by many orders of magnitude).
We'll never have real numbers, as it's all hushed up, but it would be instructive to compare the rate of rape say, or murder in the average small American town with the rate of judicial rape and judicially sanctioned murder in say the average small town in the Pakistani hills.
I know how my money would bet.
And if paying jiza (or however you spell dhimmi tax) is recognized statistically, the rate of robbery is absolutely astronomical. The freelance pick-pocket gets his hand cut off (a crime in itself), but the local preacher/thugs can rob every dhimmi in sight for "tax" -- it's official don't you know.
The key to sharia is not the elimination of crime, but to concentrate the prerogative to commit crime in the hands of the male, the pious and the wealthy, probably in that order, with the big time do-whatever-you-like winners being all three.
PS.
I don't habitually pay much attention to the local site trolls, but I wonder if it's meaningful that they haven't chimed in on this subject?
PPS. What, if anything, is the scriptural OK for honor killings?
Or is this just a spontaneous native product of sick mohammedan culture?