What's that? A cheering crowd in Dubai for Ahmadinejad? But didn't the overwhelming majority of peaceful, moderate Muslims -- the ones we could count on when President Bush was pushing through that deal to manage U.S. ports -- rise up and denounce the Thug-In-Chief? It's interesting that the crowd was made up of "mostly Iranian expatriates," yet at least from this story they don't seem to be the type who fled the mullahocracy so that they could breathe freely.
From AP, with thanks to all who sent this in:
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad led a raucous anti-American rally in the United Arab Emirates a day after a low-key visit by US Vice President Dick Cheney there in an attempt to counter Tehran's influence in the region.Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a cheering Dubai crowd Sunday that America was to blame for creating instability and robbing the region of its wealth. ''Every time your name is mentioned, hatred builds up,'' Ahmadinejad said of the United States to a crowd of thousands, mostly Iranian expatriates. ''Go fix yourself. This is Iran's advice to you. Leave the region... The nations of the region can no longer take you forcing yourself on them.''
Yes, leave the region, so that Iran can force itself on the nations of the region without your interference.
Democracy at it's best! ?
''Go fix yourself. This is Iran's advice to you. Leave the region... The nations of the region can no longer take you forcing yourself on them.''
I wonder what he thought of the ski run in the mall?
Or was he there for the ice-skating?
Or perhaps the ape would like to fix a few ports in the states if bush could have his way?
Sounds proverted!
Guess Hugh's plan of divide and win aint working?
Catherine:
How can something not work when it isn't even being tried?
Cordially
Robert Spencer
The Iranian president was warmly welcomed by Gulf emirate's rulers two days after a visit by US vice president Dick Cheney.
Warm welcome AFTER Dick's visit, eh?
DEBKAfile reports US consent to open talks with Iran on Iraq is seen by the Gulf sheikdoms as a softening of the Bush administration’s most steadfast positions in the region.
Guess Hugh's plan of divide and win aint working?
Niether is slick bush's plan, apparently.
I can't wait till the Madrasses that are being built by the US military in Afghanistan and paid for with YOUR tax dollars are open.
I plan on a visit there to see if the ritual foot baths look like those in the airports in Phoenix, Minniapolois, and Kansas City.
Since bush made me pay for these things (BYW,I consider aiport user fees that pay for the airport foot baths for the muslims, another tax) I figure I should at least visit them.
Thank God, bush didn't use that tax money to clean up the VA medical system; or to buy decent body armor for the troops; or worse yet, use that money for scholarships for American students.
Iranian Cro-Magnon throwback Imadickheaddad said…
“The nations of the region can no longer take you forcing yourself on them “
More like holding back two rabid pit bulls from tearing each other apart
May those charming citizens of Dubai who turned out for this rally enjoy a lengthy sojourn under Ahmadinjad's morality squad goons.
"Cro-Magnon," Freedom? That's too advanced.
May those charming citizens of Dubai who turned out for this rally enjoy a lengthy sojourn under Ahmadinjad's morality squad goons.
...but after, the American taxpayer funds some of THESE in Dubai, THANKS bUSH!
The U.S. military admits the possibility the new "centers for educational excellence," to be administered by the education ministry, will be vulnerable to radical Islamic clerics.
"In Afghan terms it is a madrassa, but those words have baggage and if word gets back to a Western public that we are building madrassas, that is a bad thing," said Major Jason Smallfield, 37, an American officer. "It is a religious school, but it is not a religious education. The governor is trying to ensure that there is some sort of control over the curriculum, to ensure that radical Islam is not being fomented through these schools."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55670
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Posted by: jihadwatch at May 14, 2007 07:39 AM
And Carters Plan was better?
OR was it Clintons plan that was better?
This war is fought on many fronts as you know. will we get it right 100% of the Time NO But at least we are fighting it instead of hidding our heads in the sand hopeing for the best!
Robert you of all people should know how sometime just sometimes the Press get's it wrong!
Like The President said there are somethings you will see and other things you will never know about?
The Press have an ajenda and you of all people should know this.
I'm sure you think Obama or Mrs. Clinton or is it Edwards have a better plan?
You are trying to ed. people to what and who we fight and how far spread this enemy is.
Your Q? was I believe can islam be reformed to live with the rest of the world in Peace?
The Next Q? should be with-out force?
Well we is using force maybe not the way you see fit But you are not Thinking of all the Facts.
Just like the Cananda news get's your site wrong maybe to bring your work down maybe there are those who want the USA to fail?
History shows us we have many enemies and you know only to well how good the mulsums are at useing them to their advantage.
I know it is hard to Keep personal feelings just that Personal but bitting the hand that feeds you will only make you hungry
Turkey because of the Force used against the islamist is why Turkey is a part of NATO
This war is not about Bush it is about islamic terrorist and those who support them.
The constent we just can get nothing right only aids the enemy you have done so well to expose.
I' sorry but I love my Freedom I like Driving a car I like Flying to see new places and Yes I love short Skirts.
With the withdraw plan these things will be lost.
When you go to the airport now you have to take off your shoes and get felt up because Why?
Because of PC which is another way the lib's have us hidding our heads in the sand.
To not admit that 9/11/2001 didn't happen while the mulsum world was supposly divided is not admitting the truth to ourselves.
If you feel you must ban me for disagreeing with Hugh well has this sight just become what we fight so hard to stop?
Like Jesse said has this site changed?
Sometime seeing all that we have seen and screaming thinking no one hears does change people But be asured people are seeing and hearing the thing now is to give those people courage to do what needs to be done and that Aint easy.
And those who do see wont stand up just to get slapped by their own people for standing up.
Means the next guy who might stand up will look and say is it really worth my time I can just walk away it really doesn't affect me YET?
OH yea I forgot?
Remember the I curse you mustash that was at where all these guys have a club and meet all the time!
How do you divide that?
I think Bush and Cheny put more fear into them than Headscarf Nancy and Harry or Bill or Gimmy ever did
And history shows us that fear can be a moving factor
Catherine:
"The Press have an ajenda and you of all people should know this." and "But at least we are fighting it instead of hidding our heads in the sand hopeing for the best!"
And finally your summation "... history shows us that fear can be a moving factor"
Spelling aside, the lucidity is stunning. What the hell are you trying to say?
The only 'ajenda' here is to watch, be aware of, and educate the world as to the true nature of Jihad. The War on Terror is misnamed, mismanaged, misunderstood -- but (and on this we agree), fighting is all we have right now.
Posted by: blues4allah at May 14, 2007 08:52 AM
so you speek for Mr. Spencer?
From one who doesn't even have a name?
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI
More Islamic terrorist dead today!!
Dubai is full of Iranians and hundreds of billions of dollars in Iranian investments. It is, in atmosphere, much above the other, entirely Arab-controlled sheiklets of the Emirates, and while the Sunni Arabs have had to worry about the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia, and about Bahrain (where the Sunni ruler worries about the 75% of his subjects who are Shi'a and don't much care for the arrangement --- so much so that he is trying to give instant citizenship to 50,000 Iraqis, as long as they are all Sunni Iraqis) they didn't worry about Dubai. After all, wasn't this Iranian capital in flight from the Islamic Republic? And aren't the kind of Iranians who live and invest in Dubai the good kind, the kind who only want to make money? [In other words, Sunni Arabs make the same mistake with Shi'a Iranians as Infidels do when they swallow the akyolish nonsense about the swellness of Erdogan et al. because of "economic growth," or as they do, in a variant thereof, when they swallow the d'zousish nonsense about the swellness of those law-abiding, straight-as-Mitt-Romney "traditional Muslims"].
What this little rally (only a few thousands) will nonetheless do is worry the hysterical rulers of the Gulf statelets, and Saudi Arabia -- and they will now worry (unduly, but who cares?) about Shi'a penetration through Dubai of the rest of the Emirates and possibly, into Eastern Saudi Arabia (where all the oil appears to be, save for whatever Elf and Totalfina manage to find, if find they do, as they look around the Empty Quarter) about the Shi'a.
The Shi'a in Iraq were discriminated against by the Sunnis, and poorer, and had larger families, possibly as a consequence (all Muslims in Iraq were having large families -- the 3 million who lived there at the end of World War I have become 27 million today), and the Shi'a have simply outrbred the Sunnis in Iraq and now constitute between 60% and 65% of the population. The Sunni Arabs are worried by the least sign of Iranian power, and by Shi'a efforts, magnified by Sunni fears, at converting Sunnis to Shi'a Islam. Reports of this occurring (in, for example, Syria) worry them.
So why is this rally a good thing? Oh, because the Saudis won't like it. The Bahraini "king" won't like it. The Al-Thani and the Al-Sabah and the Al-Maktoum and the Al-Thisses and the Al-Thatses won't like it.
That's a good thing.
Another good thing about Dubai, and about the Arab Gulf states, is how much of their wealth is now visibly in gigantic luxury highrises, nicely placed close together. And the same is true for parts of Saudi Arabia, not only in the Xanadu-strewn areas of Riyadh, but all over, and then there are these colossallly expensive, and ultimately ludicrous efforts, to build these Economic Cities in Medina, Tobuk, Jazan, and elsewhere. Hundreds of billions will be spent, and while the luxury apartments may be bought (I don't know -- do you want to buy a luxury apartment in the middle of Saudi Arabia? Does it sound appealing to you?), the "economic" side of those Economic Cities haven't a chance to succeed. But you don't think any of their Western consultants, from McKinsey on, is going to tell them that, do you? You don't think a single Westerner getting Saudi money is going to discourage them from these cities with luxury apartment complexes and a "manufacturing base" that will supposedly give Saudi Arabia an alternative to oil -- fat chance, given the Saudis, the Arabs, and inshallah-fatalism which justifies a culture-wide indolence, in every respect.
Why should we like these skyscraping developments? Why is all that Iranian money in Dubai a good thing for us? Makes it easier, when and if we have to inflict a blow, or many blows, and in one fell swoop seize their foreign assets (just as all assets owned by German nationals were seized, as the assets of enemy aliens, during World War II). And makes it easier to destroy all those illiquid assets in the area that both Arabs and Iranians are putting so much money into -- afraid to keep it in the West where it might (see sentence before).
Keep building those skyscrapers in Dubai with Iranian money. Keep having those Iranian rallies for an Iranian ruler. Keep it up.
Makes worry-waves, that worry-beads can not deal with,in all the right Sunni Arab places.
Lovely.
"Guess Hugh's plan of divide and win aint working?"
Absolutely wrong. This "rally" for a Shiite leader spells big, big trouble. It was predicted by Matthew Fisher in a column so time ago. Many, many countries in the Middle East are ruled by Sunnis, but have a growing, unruly Shiite population. You want divide and conquer? Well, it might be coming.
Catherine,
While we may be faced in 2008 with a Manichaean either/or choice between Bush's path and that of the Carter/Clinton/Obama/Edwards appeasers, we aren't there yet. And the fact that we don't support Bush's plan does not mean in any way that we support Clinton's. In reality, we are trying to articulate a third way here, one that neither party has come close to as of yet.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Catherine
Don’t get on the defensive, I do NOT agree OR disagree with you……….BUT
Like blues4allah I just don’t know what the heck you’re trying to say.
Also, can’t get my mind off you in that short skirt.
Post a pic please.
Hugh,
OR when the west has had enough and the deportation begins Some how I don't think the west will be made to believe that a luxury apartment is the same as a gas chamber?
Yes and for all mulsums to live in an luxury apartment in what is their holy land could just work!
See Matthew Fisher's column "Middle East Ready to Tumble" (January 29, 2007). He wrote about Lebanon falling into Hezbollah control, which he suggested could start a domino effect -- with other countries following -- that would include "oil rich, easter Saudi Arabia [the Hejaz -- the Hejaz was one of the first independent Arab states, once upon a time] where there is a Shiite majority, in Bahrain which is Sunni ruled but has a Shiite majority; Kuwait and United Arab Emirates, significant Shiite minorities..." (also Fisher noted that the Afghans share the Farsi language with Iran.)
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Posted by: jihadwatch at May 14, 2007 09:10 AM
This I know but none the less fule on the fire is just that fule on the fire.
After all we know that the jihadies have laptops in their caves and use the MSM to egg their monsters on [SEE BUSH IS LOSING LOOK THEIR CONGRESS WON'T GIVE THEM ANY MONEY THEY ARE RUNNING LIKE COWARDS WHAT DID WE SAY YES PAPER TIGERS] ,with all the we can't get sh-t right aids who again? And makes other want to play with us?
Pointing out another way does not mean have to bash the other some how I think you get more with honey than sh-t?
As for my short Skirt ask Mr. Spencer Sorry I missed Hugh think he had a cold or something Although Jesse James also Knows?
Stuck in a time warp
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
Catherine,
Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Catherine
20% of the population is Shia (depending on who you look at). So yes Hugh's plan is still working just fine.
"Ahmadinejad said of the United States to a crowd of thousands, mostly Iranian expatriates. ''Go fix yourself."
Does anyone read this stuff close?
IRANIAN EXPATRIATES!!!!
In fact this is great news!
A mob of Iranian "expatriates" (cough revolutionary guards) roaming around. I wonder what Cheney and Halliburton have to say about that? Now that has to make the Sunnis nervous as all hell.
And that wonderful company with only dollar signs in its eyes, Halliburton, is moving to Dubai to profit some more from this Wilsonian nightmare we call Iraq.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Posted by: jihadwatch at May 14, 2007 09:45 AM
Daniel 8:27
Okay never mind?
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
If you get a chance, check out today's Chicago Tribune (available in most cities -- especially airports).
The headline says in US is negotiating with Iran about leaving Iraq.
Underneath that is a photo of a bosnia muslim woman clinging to an oblisek shaped headstone -- a cursory glance about the storyline is some gibberish about how muslims are still victims in Serbia years after the war.
Didn't waste my money buying the actual paper but it makes an 30 sec impression on my mind and it probably did with thousands of others too, that:
1. the US is already negotiating the terms of our surrender to Iran over Iraq
2. the muslim victims are our dear, mourning, and loving friends.
Perhaps a deeper reading of the actual articles will reveal something other than my 30 sec impression, but someone must of thought this out when they planned the front page, no?
I'm still angery about those three soldiers being taken and held by al-queda -- I can only imagine what the Chicago Tribune will print if the worst expectations are realized.
The commander-in-cheif is ultimately responsible for things like this which should have been prevented in the first place.
AP Article: “Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a cheering Dubai crowd Sunday that America was to blame for creating instability and robbing the region of its wealth.”
Yes, I can see that. All that oil just ruining their economy…OPEC has no monopoly on that market, since Jimmy Carter didn’t sign a drilling moratoria back in 1980!
Puleese, Muckmood. I may be dumb, but I ain’t stoopid, ya monkey!
Jihadwatch: “While we may be faced in 2008 with a Manichaean either/or choice…”
Robert, really…how many people have even HEARD of this religion??? Good thing this English major was required to study the religion when reading Confessions, or I'd not get the joke! *whew*
Question, though: Is the option strictly Light vs. Darkness? Or are you arguing the current option is between Hearers and Sinners, with your recommendation falling within the realm of the Perfects? It all sounds apocalyptic, if you ask me, given their restrictions.
*sigh* When will Royalty, Wisdom, Victory, Persuasion, Purity, Truth, Faith, Patience, Righteousness, Goodness, Justice, and Light return to Earth?
"This is Iran's advice to you. Leave the region... The nations of the region can no longer take you forcing yourself on them."
Ahmadinejad in Dubai
Response to the people of Dubai:
This is America's advice to you. Don't be surprised when we leave the region. We won't miss you in the slightest. You cheer on thugs like Ahmadinejad and you worship those who kill people who want to help you. We'll never "force" ourselves on you again. Ta ta!
A final message to Halliburton execs:
You shall be judged by the company you keep.
Catherine
Another lesson for ya!
"the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought. The general who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose." Sun Tzu
G. W. Bush is to blame! Harry Reid was just the finial outcome of the G.W. war plan. You guys thought we would get dancing Iraqis in the street but instead we got Harry Reid and Scarf Girl.
Thanks!
Ahmadinejad -- the fomenter of peace.
“Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told a cheering Dubai crowd Sunday that America was to blame for creating instability and robbing the region of its wealth.”
Really now? Has he seen some of the palaces there. has he seen the silver plated Rolls Royce's?
Thought not.
Request for information:
Anyone know about good online reference materials containing reliable statistics as to the religious/ethnic makeup of the Muslim nations? I sometimes use, for example, the CIA Factbook in boning up on my "facts" -- but find that the granularity of their data is sometimes unhelpful. For example, in this case about UAE, (or examining any of the so-called "sheiklets" for that matter which constitute the "nation" of "Dubai"), the religious statistics do not even bother to differentiate between Sunnis and Shias and their respective densities in those areas.
One might posit the following: Since the CIA seems to rely so heavily on the so-called "experts on Islam" who are always assuring us that the Shiites and the Sunnis will never unite, are incapable of banding together to achieve common goals, that Saddam could never have helped Hezbollah, that Iran would NEVER help al Qaida, one might then infer that making such distinctions as to the makeup of Sunnis and Shias in the various Muslim nations of the world would be of some import...
Any recommendations on references?
Catherine
"Shame shame shame you support reid who routes for the other side?"
???
Oh the abuse one gets from a diehard Bush groupie. No I don't like Harry Reid or the liberals. I like conservative leaders who have intelligence and a stong understanding of history. Men or Women who have the guts to name the enemy. Bush misses on all counts so no I don't care much for him and his plan. It sucks!
The only side I cheer for is the American Republic and Western Civilization. Once the Republican leadership stopped doing that they lost my respect and ended up acting and sounding like the liberals.
I hope Bush and all who pressed for Dubai to have ownership of anything to do with U.S. ports are feeling a little more like infidels after this report.
The Ummah laughs at every accomodation we infidel dogs grant them.
The West should have never sold any technology more advanced than the wheel to any Islamic country.
We have only modernized our sworn enemies.
And are now still trying to placate their terrorism -and threats of terrorism- with concessions... like 7,000 more Saudi "students" allowed to come to the U.S., or by pressing for a Muslim Kosovo, ad nauseam.
The enemy knows what it wants.
What the hell does the West want?
(Other than a technologically-advanced coffin?)
Why do I have this strange feeling that the Iranian Mullahcracy, and Mahmoud Amadinejad are working hard to shore up any allies they can that might or will be on their side when they begin throwing nukes out against anyone who disagrees with them?
Does anyone out there have some opinions on this?
I'm sure this post is history by now, but I have to ask: Is Catherine some fem-bot with her spell checker turned off? ...
I mean, her answer to everything is a Stuck Mojo video on YouTube, or some all caps "God Bless the USA.." bolierplate stuff ... wtf Kate?
OK, all done ranting - Hey, if you're against Jihad, you're alright w/ us.
Funny, how he follows around our leaders, like a committed ankle-biter "pit yorkie"...lol
Not that this rabid "rally" is any surprise...but at least we know he's desperately trying to cover his @$$ in clearly obsessive fashion of someone with a lot to hide...not that it's a shock either.
Can someone tell me if this reaction of the Iraqis was expected?
I think a lot of us thought that once Saddam was brought down the people would be grateful and they would become a democratic country.
Is that what the majority of you bloggers thought?
We are all wise in hindsight.
Robert, did you expect this? and if you did why?
Thanks.