Albanian terror suspects appear in Montenegro court

AGAIN ALBANIANS?!?!?!

Albanians want to create Great Albania, superislamic jihadist state in Balkans that would include southern parts of Serbia (beside Kosovo), half of Macedonia (western part), northeastern Greece and southern Montenegro.

Here is the map, with warnings from Mr. Bisset, former Canadian ambasador to Yugoslavia.

With current western support they are on a road to complete the task.

Sry for the previous post, hope it can be moderated, here is the link:

http://www.realitymacedonia.org.mk/news/WeCreatedAMonster.html

This is reported on Serbianna.com also:
http://www.serbianna.com/news/2007/01671.shtml

+ Albanian Gunmen Hijack Bus in Italy
http://www.serbianna.com/news/2007/01686.shtml

They are encouraged by western support and will try to repeat Kosovo scenario in Montenegro, Macedonia and Greece. Then NATO will have to fight against these "innocent victims". I can't wait...

"Could this have been a jihad plot?"

What kind of approach is that, talking about "jihad" without a single fact supporting the suggestion? If these people were jihadis, they wouldn't restrict themselves to regions with an ethnic Albanian majority, one would think. Let the facts rule, not how you would like the facts to be.

I am no Muslim apologist. I do believe Islam is a serious threat to the freedom, even to the lives, of "infidels" in many, many countries. But I think your reporting about Kosovo and Albania has been consistently misguided and erroneous. The troubles in Kosovo were of an exclusively ethnic origin. After abolishing the limited autonomy of Kosovo within the Yugoslav republic of Serbia in 1989, communist dictator Milosevic created a situation in which the ethnic Albanians of Kosovo became second class citizens, deprived of their most basic civil rights. This is an established and uncontested fact.
The enmity between Serbs and ethnic Albanians in Kosovo has always been of an ethnic nature, religion didn't come into it. Of course Wahhabites and other jihadists have tried to infiltrate the Kosovo community to further their own agenda, but this has met with precious little success. Anyway, you can't blame ME if an Islamist tries to influence me. You can only blame me if I make friends with them.
Kosovo and Albania do not form a Muslim threat of any significance (as opposed to many other countries in the world).

http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=1591&l=1 :
"Kosovo Albanians do not define their national identity through religion, but through language and have a relatively relaxed approach towards the observance of the forms of the Islamic religion. Neither Islamic leaders nor Islamic theology played a significant role in either the eight-year campaign of non-violent resistance to the Serb occupation regime or the armed resistance of 1998-99. Islamic political and social fundamentalism, as that term is understood with respect to the Middle East, has very little resonance in Kosovo."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Albania :
"The majority of Albanians today are either Atheists or Agnostics. ... The country does not have a history of religious extremism and takes pride in the harmony that exists across religious traditions and practices. Religious pragmatism continued as a distinctive trait of the society and interreligious marriage has been very common throughout the centuries, in some places even the rule. ... A Roman Catholic intellectual and poet, Pashko Vasa (1825-1892), made the trenchant remark, later co-opted by the totalitarian state, that "Churches and mosques you shall not heed / The religion of Albanians is Albanism. ... While there is no law restricting the demonstration of religious affiliation in public schools, there have been instances when students were not allowed to do so in practice. In December 2003, a male Muslim student was prohibited from having his diploma photograph taken because he had a beard. ... In October 2003, police arrested Kastriot Myftari, author of the book "Albanian National Islamism" on charges of inciting religious hatred. ... In November 2005 a speech from Albania's president in London, aroused public protests from Muslim organizations that accused the president of insulting Islam."

And still Condi have a cheek to tell in Moscow yesterday, that "Kosovo is lost for Serbia forever".
Beside this fresh story, there is a wide spread rumor that albanians via russians, english and other proxy purchasers, buys large portions of montenegro coast. Since they are already predominant in southern littoral (like ulcinj), next target is obvious.

Always the muslims want more and more land. One of their methods to do this is by trying to alter history. The Albanians claim to have originated from tribes (that were actually Greek or close to Greek, genetically and linguistically) but these people actually came in the Balkans in the 10th century AD (this is according to Byzantine sources) from Middle East. The Illyrian language was a centum language when the albanian language is mostly a satem language meaning that it is more close to Iranian languages

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az_77neGgmg&mode=related&search=

Unfortunately, the US of America did helped them in order to cause trouble to the last close allies of the Russians in the Balkans, the Serbians, which was a big mistake, since they've created a muslim monster in the very sensitive region of the Balkans.

Always the muslims want more and more land. One of their methods to do this is by trying to alter history. The Albanians claim to have originated from tribes (that were actually Greek or close to Greek, genetically and linguistically) but these people actually came in the Balkans in the 10th century AD (this is according to Byzantine sources) from Middle East. The Illyrian language was a centum language when the albanian language is mostly a satem language meaning that it is more close to Iranian languages

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az_77neGgmg&mode=related&search=

Unfortunately, the US of America did helped them in order to cause trouble to the last close allies of the Russians in the Balkans, the Serbians, which was a big mistake, since they've created a muslim monster in the very sensitive region of the Balkans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az_77neGgmg&mode=related&search=

ROFL. BEAUTIFULL, just BEAUTIFULL.If there is just lyrics

Dutchman,

You don't know the truth. Albanians have persecuted Serbs and other non-albanians in Kosovo for decades. Milosevic didn't "create a situation", situation was there, he just took wrong moves and failed to protect his nation. Long before Milosevic, since 1974. Yugoslav constitution Albanians in Kosovo had autonomy and rights like no other minority in Europe, but they organized violent demonstrations. Why?

Read here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo#Kosovo_in_the_second_Yugoslavia

"In the 1974 constitution, the Socialist Autonomous Province of Kosovo's government received higher powers, including the highest governmental titles — President and Premier and a seat in the Federal Presidency which made it a de facto Socialist Republic within the Federation, but remaining as a Socialist Autonomous Province within the Socialist Republic of Serbia. Tito had pursued a policy of weakening Serbia, as he believed that a "Weak Serbia equals a strong Yugoslavia". To this end Vojvodina and Kosovo became autonomous regions and were given the above entitled privileges as defacto republics. ... Even though Kosovo was the least developed area of the former Yugoslavia, the living and economic prospects and freedoms were far greater then under the totalitarian Maoist regieme in Albania."

Tell me one minority in the world with this status. And yet:

"Beginning in March 1981, Kosovar Albanian students organized protests seeking that Kosovo become a republic within Yugoslavia. Those protests rapidly escalated into violent riots "involving 20,000 people in six cities" that were harshly contained by the Yugoslav government. During the 1980s, ethnic tensions continued with frequent violent outbreaks against Serbs and Yugoslav state authorities resulting in increased emigration of Kosovo Serbs and other ethnic groups. The Yugoslav leadership tried to suppress protests of Kosovo Serbs seeking protection from ethnic discrimination and violence."

They had all rights, lived better than their relatives in motherland and they terrorized other nations and their host country.

So what's this?

Something that I forgot to mention is that the name of Tirana, the capital city of Albania, comes from the Tehran (the capital of Iran), thus showing the real racial identity of this muslim tribe. Themselves believed that they were a small version of Iran until the early 20th century when they realized that they were not a part of the Ottoman Empire anymore, so they had to build a national identity based on lies and propaganda. In my opinion, the persians and their offsprings (albanians,turks and other muslims) are trying once again to invade Europe, like they did 2500 years ago but they've found a small nation in their way that kicked their asses back in Asia. This nation is still there and with the help of other christian nations (Serbian,Russian) will give a fight against the same enemies. Muzees we are more than one small nation now, we are many strong ones, so start to shake from fear hehehe

Dear Flying Dutchman,

it is obvious that you know little about 800 years of Balkans Christian nations struggle against muslim jihad, and that your knowledge about 1990's in the Balkans is mostly based on CNN and BBC propaganda against Serbs. Talking about Milosevic here is totaly out of the context. Narrowing history to only last 20 years is bias and counterproductive. I'm not going to defend Milosevic here, but I AM going to put some facts. You can believe me or you don't, and I'll not provide any links to proove my case, because I believe that anyone who is interested in jihad KNOWS facts about Balkans.

Yes, Milosevic DID abolish autonomy of Kosovo in 1989, but you should know why. Albanians had greatest autonomy in the world given by comunist dictator Tito in 1974. They had everything, human rights, college education in Albanian, huge (socialist-type) social benefits (how could they have greatest birth rate in Europe for decades without it?), you name it... Still, after Tito's death in 1980, they rose up demanding Republic within Yugoslavia and out of Serbia. In violent demonstrations that followed in 1981 and later trougout the 1980s, Yugoslav and Serbian security forces had tough time stoping their terrorist activities. It is widely documented.

Using drug money for investment in US politics and media and playing on victimhood and US-Serbian hostility during the 1990s, they managed to impose themselves as ultimate victims of Milosevic. Truth is somewhat diferent. If you compare 20th century ethnic maps (let's not go further back in history) of that region you would see shrinking in numbers of Serbs (and every other nations) and dramatical increase in Albanian population. Especialy during and after WW2 (Albanians ofcourse being fearsome allies of nazi Germany in the Balkans, killing scores of Serbs, Gypsies, Jews and others in their nazi creation - Great Albania).

Since 1999. over 150 churces and monesteries were destroyed (not to mention those destroyed before), over 2.000 civilians have been killed or disapered and 250.000 Serbs and others have been expeled (in 2004. they've been killing and burning for days in front of NATO forces in Kosovo).

...

Huge birth rates, hostility towards everyone else, burning churches, ploting terrorist attacks, forming terrorist cells in state institutions, decapitating monks, raping nuns, playing on victimhood, no real deep allegence to Christian allies (Fort Dix), making worst atrocities known to human mind (e.g. setting captured children on fire, killing unborn children on mothers eyes)... If THAT is not jihad, I don't know what is! That's school example of jihad, if you ask me.

I agree that Albanian cause is mostly ethnicly based, but they've proven that they're more than willing to use any jihadist advantage available. Being nationalist doesn't mean not being jihadist. And, it is a bloody lie that the're secular and agnostic, that's just for western ears. Their muslim roots go back to Ottoman times centuries ago. Ask anyone in Balkans (Greeks, for example) about Albanians.

Hope you will find the truth.

And, one more thing.

Suporting Serbs here against Albanian jihad doesn't mean that I am Milosevic lover and suporter. That's just atempt to blur the facts. I love Serbia, and I have strong conections with that proud nation, and I hated Milosevic more than ordinary CNN-watching westerner, because I knew what was about to happen to Serbs because of that little wannabe-Tito autoritarian prick.

And now I'm here in Belgrade trying to do everything I can to help Serbs in their righteous fight to protect their land.

Okay, an Albanian terror campaign, but this time, against Montenegro. I guess all that anti-Serb propaganda would be pretty worthless, right? Or wouldn't it?

Albanian plots in Fort Dix, Albanian plots against Montenegro, Albanian plots in SW Serbia (forget the name of that place), Bosnian teen shoots up SLC mall, etc - yeah, it's all the Serbs' fault.

Similarly, Israel is responsible for Fatah and Hamas, India is responsible for Lashkar e Toiba, Indonesian Christians are responsible for Jemiah Islamiya and Lashkar Jihad, ethnic Russians in Central Asia are responsible for the Islamic movement of Turkestan, et al

In short - how dare the victims walk the face of this earth!

You got it right Infidel Pride, that's what they do!

See this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngM-gYRtnmc
It's a Greek TV show. An albanian illegal immigrant calls and claims that in Greece most of the population is albanian and that only 2.5 millions out of 10 of population in Greece is Greek. In other words this stupid muslim says that in every 20 person in Greece that you see while taking a walk in the streets 15 of them are albanians. Of course the TV host person jokes with this illegal immigrant, since nothing else can be done (even if the best thing would be to trace the call, arrest and deport him). Does this ring a bell, like Kosovo? The Greek Army is in an alert with respect to what is going on in Turkey since they could easily export their internal tension to a war with Greece but I think that also the albanians are planning a Kosovo style trick against Greece. The only good thing is that the USA cannot bombard an ally like Greece so the albanians will fail to apply their sick plans since their muslim manly hood is based on foreign help. Christians unite while we have time, because dhimmitude is not anywhere close to happiness!

I believe that this case is the same as to one I remember seeing here on a local news report.

However, the coverage here was basically 2 minutes of Albanian relatives saying that their fathers and brothers were falsely accused and tortured. That was all I hard them say, and the reporter made no mention of terrorism or the like, just that the Albanians were in prison in Montenegro.

From a local paper (I did a searh):
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=list&p_theme=gannett&s_site=freep&p_product=FP&p_topdoc=1

1. TERROR SUSPECTS DEFENDED
October 15, 2006 •• 800 words •• ID: dfp0000337953
An Oakland County grandfather and a retired assembly line worker for Chrysler are among three U.S. citizens imprisoned in Montenegro for more than a month as terror suspects. The men, Rrok (Rocky) Dedvukaj, 49, of Troy and his cousin Kola Dedvukaj, 58, of Farmington Hills, were arrested Sept. 9 during a police raid in a primarily Albanian village in Montenegro. A third Albanian American, Sokol Ivanaj, believed to be from Michigan, also was arrested, according to an Albanian-American advocacy....

2. 3 FROM MICHIGAN ALLEGE ABUSE IN MONTENEGRO
November 18, 2006 •• 271 words •• ID: dfp0000355048
PODGORICA, Montenegro - An internal investigation by Montenegrin police into allegations that officers abused ethnic Albanian suspects, including three from Michigan, was inconclusive. The investigation - which was called for by an international human rights watchdog and the local prosecutor's office - could not reconcile the conflicting accounts of the police officers and some of the 14 ethnic Albanian suspects, according to a copy of the report made available to the Associated....

3. JAILED ALBANIANS INNOCENT, RELATIVES SAY
November 7, 2006 •• 249 words •• ID: dfp0000349444
The government prosecutor of Montenegro said Monday that a group of 14 men - three from Michigan - were planning terrorist attacks inside the Balkan country. But family members of the three jailed men said there is no truth to the claims, and that the men were targeted because of their Albanian ancestry. "It's an ethnic thing," said Marash Dedvukaj, son of Kola Dedvukaj, 58, of Farmington Hills. "They're in there for no....

So there we go!

Take care all!

Sorry that the link doesn't work: just do a search for "montenegro" and it will be the first 3 artcile stubs.

Oh,those 'misunderstood,peaceful & democratic 'Albanians just keep popping all up over the landscape like toadstools-give 'em the proverbial inch & the sweet creatures want a mile,then they want an ENTIRE COUNTRY! ENTIRE COUNTRIES TO BE EXACT...
Suggest this time NATO & E.U are left to do the shitty trench fighting -let them risk their asses,be tortured & beheaded whilst pompous, Eurocrat leaders wag fingers and declaim "We must understand these people. Find out what they want.Islam is a religion of Peace..."
Better still,send some of these useless ding dongs
to the Frontline with flak jackets & guns.
Morgaan Sinclair could go with them as a U.N Observer-making sure the Albanians[not Euro Dhimmis] are getting ALL THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS.

Flying Dutchman, where oh where to begin with your post? I know let's take a single paragraph, any will do, and take a wee peep shall we?

"I am no Muslim apologist. I do believe Islam is a serious threat to the freedom, even to the lives, of "infidels" in many, many countries. But I think your reporting about Kosovo and Albania has been consistently misguided and erroneous. The troubles in Kosovo were of an exclusively ethnic origin. This is an established and uncontested fact.
The enmity between Serbs and ethnic Albanians in Kosovo has always been of an ethnic nature, religion didn't come into it. Of course Wahhabites and other jihadists have tried to infiltrate the Kosovo community to further their own agenda, but this has met with precious little success"

There. That'll do.

"I am no Muslim apologist. I do believe Islam is a serious threat to the freedom, even to the lives, of "infidels" in many, many countries BUT I think your reporting about Kosovo and Albania has been consistently misguided and erroneous"

Ah the "BUT". It says way more than a 1,000 words ever will.

"The troubles in Kosovo were of an exclusively ethnic origin"

There's a grain of truth in this but not in the way that you think.

For starters , every single ethnic minority in Kosovo supported the Serbs against the muslim Albanians. That's right. EVERY ONE.

From conservative muslims like the Caucassians ( who were fiercely pro Belgrade ) to the large ethnic Turk community - the Turkish gov't would frequently make visits to the ethnic Turks under Belgrade rule and ALWAY pronounced themselves very happy with the treatment by the Serbs
Let's take a closer look the life of the ethnic Turks under Belgrade rule

The Turkish minority had their own university , tv shows in Turkish, their children were taught in Turkish, etc. In Turkish areas - Mamush for ex - the siqns were written in both Turkish and Serbian. They could represent themselves in court in the Turkish language, etc.

Since the KLA and NATO took over, the Turks at first were so scared they demanded a HUGE Turkish army base to protect them from the KLA. They're still fucked big time. A year or so ago, their most senior representative , Ibish Chakali of the TDP , was assassinated in broad daylight by the KLA. They were sending a message for it came a day after the Turkish Foreign Minister Gul had told the ethnic Turks that they have nothing to fear. The KLA were telling the ethnic Turks. WRONG. WE, THE KLA, CONTROL KOSOVO. The Turkish community are

a) leaving Kosovo forever
or
b) changing their names and forgetting their history and culture. In a generation they'll be gone forever

The minority Croat community was expelled by the KLA for celebrating a Catholic festival, the Goranis , Macedonians , Montnegroans, Egyptians, Rom, etc all supported the Serbs.

Name a single minority that supported the KLA?

You can't because none did. NONE

So, in a way, it was an ethnic struggle. Every ethnicity supported the Serbs.

Now why was that?

Also explain why the CATHOLIC Kosovo Albanians were very pro loyal to Belgrade too.
Have you been keeping tabs on the Haradinaj trial in the ICTY? Well, he and his "Black Eagles" hunted down the CATHOLIC ethnic Albanians in their 100's in the year just before NATO's bombing campaign. Nearly all of the KLA's victims were either SERB, ROMA, or CATHOLIC KOSOVO ALBANIAN. In fact over 2 thirds of the KLA victims in 1998 were CATHOLIC ALBANIAN - 200 out of 300 .

At the Rombouillet talks just before NATO's bombing campaign , the Serb delegation came with

a) ethnic Serbs
b) ethnic Turks from Kosovo
c) ethnic Roma or Gypsy from Kosovo
d) ethnic Egyptians from Kosovo
e) Catholic Kosovo Albanian

The KLA came with ONLY Kosovo Albanians

What does that tell you?

Also , why did PROSECUTION witnesses at the Slobo trial speak of CATHOLIC Kosovo Albanian villages being PRO Belgrade? They added that the Serb security forces NEVER had any trouble from them.

What does that tell you?

"After abolishing the limited autonomy of Kosovo within the Yugoslav republic of Serbia in 1989, communist dictator Milosevic created a situation in which the ethnic Albanians of Kosovo became second class citizens, deprived of their most basic civil rights"

CRAP.

For example, PROSECUTION witnesses in the ICTY trial of Slobo were forced to admit that

a) Kosovo Albanians could be taught in their langauge
b) they could represent themselves in their lanuage in court
c) many of the managers in the factories were Kosovo Albanian
d) Street names were written in Albanian AND Serbian in areas of large % of Kosovo Albanaian
e) many of the senior politicians were Kosovo Albanian
f) many of the managers of gov't buildings were Kosovo Albanian. The deputy manager of the dubrava prison that was bombed by nato was a Kosovo Albanian as were most of the prison guards.
g) many of the security forces were CATHOLIC KOSOVO ALBANIAN. In fact, amongst FRONTLINE fighters, more KOSOVO ALBANIANS fought WITH the Serbs than with the KLA. Many of the FRONTLINE units in the KLA were mercs, Albanian disapora or Mujahideen.

Read the prosecution witnesses statements in the ICTY against SLOBO FFS

"Of course Wahhabites and other jihadists have tried to infiltrate the Kosovo community to further their own agenda, but this has met with precious little success"

MORE CRAP

Read about the amazing mosque building going on right now in Kosovo, from funds from that well known ATHIEST kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Very often being built on the ashes of destroyed churches.

From WallsofByzant about Milosevic . "a little wannabe-Tito autoritarian prick"

LOL

Well said Ewha1,
Unfortunately, we the Europeans (in general) are following the "political correct" way of "pulling out our own eyes" in order to please the oriental rich oil countries like Saudi Arabia. No one is telling to the public that these arabs have bought big companies and even give big amounts of money to European politicians in order to give a push to their agenda which is Islamization of Europe especially with the help of the modern Trojan Horse called "illegal immigration"...

The war against Serbia was a big mistake of the USA and of Germany. For me Germany, shouldn't been allowed to interfere in the internal affairs of nations that in the past (in the Nazi era) she fought against (as the leader of the old axis of Evil). It's not random that all ex Nazi or Nazi helper nations are now rich or get rewarded with stolen lands (see Albania,Germany,Japan,Austria) and all the ally nations are on a track of destruction, one by one (Serbia with Kossovo,Russia with Chechnia,Greece with 800000 illegal muslim albanian immigrants,France with the muslim "youths",UK with big muslim ghettos)

Conflicts in the Balkans are just starting to reveal their true face.All this happening in recent months is just making things all so clear.Series of events in Serbia, Greece, F.Y.R Macedonia and now Montenegro were not enough for public to realize the importance of that European front against islamo-fascist Albanian terrorist agenda.Unfortunately it had to come all-the-way to American shores in order for a real debate to open.Now is the question, how many times has to happen before someone make a proper reaction in the US administration?
America just hadn't learned its lesson with Osama bin Laden.It is that lesson that says:"
DO NOT SUPPORT ISLAMIC TERROR FOR A SHORT-TERM INTEREST OR IT WILL COME TO HUNT YOU"

Enough of mislead policies!!!!!!
(or gear up for more s***)