And of course he will be given one, because everyone knows that it is a book of peace, and that his plot had nothing, nothing, nothing to do with what is written in the Qur'an, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just an ignorant Islamophobe, right? Right?
"Terror suspect asks for a Koran," from The Star-Ledger, with thanks to James:
Eljvir Duka's lawyer stood in U.S. District Court in Camden this morning and told the judge his client wanted a Koran.Like the other five men accused of plotting to kill soldiers at Fort Dix, the 23-year-old is being held in solitary confinement at a federal detention center in Philadelphia. They were arrested Monday night, and Duka was growing anxious to read, said his lawyer, Troy Archie.
"He has been basically sitting in his cell," Archie said.
Qur'an = manual for murder
Sorry, all out of Korans.
Got this Diary of Anne Frank, though.
Of course he wanted a Koran. He wanted to find out if he can get his 72 virgins some other way now that he's in jail.
"He has been basically sitting in his cell"
Oh the horror!
Why was I censored?
My comment was not that bad and it was deleted within 2-3 minutes.
All I said was "BUTT" in the same sentence with the koran?
"Whats up with that....I gotta know?"
Jerry Seinfeld
Why not? Asking for the qur'an will help link his religion and his actions in the eyes of the public.
Is it not time to start a petition to OUTLAW the koran in the USA?
Robert, that book is nothing more than a guide for insurrection, sedition, and overthrow of every non-islamic nation on this planet.
I think I am on to something with this idea.
It has 134 verses telling its cultic followers to kill, kidnapp, rape, ransom, and extort your fellow man and this certainly sounds like sedition to me.
That is still an act that is totally illegal in the USA.
We should send him Robert's "The Truth About Muhammad" book instead.
shouldnt his jailers know what is in the book that he is requesting? what if a child molester was requesting child porn in his cell would they give it to him? I think not, so as far as I am concerned the same rules should apply here.But I know they would tell me that it is a book that preaches love and peace without even reading it
"Is it not time to start a petition to OUTLAW the koran in the USA?"
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Hungarian Crusader: This is America, not Hungary. We don't censor or deny free speech here.
Just so long as it's not at taxpayer expense. Let his Mosque supply it to him.
I'll pay for a magazine of Mohammad cartoons.
No koran, no special food, no free association,no special facilities.
The reason the authorities give in to these scum is because they are afraid of them.
Enough.
Let's hope he will be "basically sitting" in his cell for the rest of his life. Oh, and let's give him another Koran or two, so he won't get too bored.
Islam “375? Years in Australia:
Islamo-Propaganda goes into Overdrive
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/05/11/islam-365-years-in-australia-islamo-propaganda-goes-into-overdrive/
Hungarian Crusader: This is America, not Hungary. We don't censor or deny free speech here.
Posted by Jonas Salk
Neither does Hungary.
Another thing; what about "hate speeech"? I am not sure, but I am under impression that it is not allowed in America. You would certainly agree that Koran falls into that category...
Again, I am not sure about hate speech being oulawed in the US, so please correct me if I am wrong.
We need to:
Cut funding for defending Fort Dix immediately.
Set a firm deadline of 2 months to withdrawal from New Jersey.
Turn New Jersey and the oil refineries there, and nuclear plants over to Iran's Revolutionary Guards.
We've been fighting in New Jersey since Washington fought the British. People are tired of fighting in New Jersey. We've been fighting there since the Battle of Trenton in 1776. Its time to bring the troops home and stop the occupation of the native population. We need to stop this colonialism in NJ.
Everyone knows the only reason we are there, oil refineries.
Carve Surah 1 into the cast lead of a bullet and give it to him at 1426 feet per second.
by "sitting in his cell" did they mean his al-Qaeda terror cell? was that an admission of guilt?
old atlantic:
LMAO send that one to pelosi she would probably agree
I wonder if McVeigh, Richard Butler (Idaho White supremascist guy) or David Duke would have been granted copies of "The Turner Diaries" "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" or "Mein Kampf" if they had requested them?
Jonas Salk wrote: "We don't censor or deny free speech here."
We don't censor, except in all our liberal arts universities, where criticism of Islam is practically forbidden, and where conservative speakers in particular--on Islam or any other subject--are routinely banned, physically assaulted, subject to character assassination, or shouted down by close-minded leftist goons.
There is no reason whatever for the government to give a Koran to a prisoner. If the prisoner were a Nazi, would you expect the government to provide him a personal copy of Mein Kampf?
Islam is not a religion, to be protected as such by our laws. It is a fascist totalitarian death cult. Sura 8 of the Koran, the part about distributing the loot taken from the infidels, convinces me of that (there is much else that is not religious as well). Real religions don't distribute loot, in my opinion.
Publication of the Koran should not be banned. Rather, it should become the core text of a mandatory course on psycho-pathology and destructive cult behavior given to every student in the land. There is a huge campaign in our schools to steer students away from drugs. There should be a similar huge campaign to steer them away from the death cult called Islam.
About "hate speech being outlawed in the US" -- no, hate speech has not been outlawed. Most speech is protected through the First Amendment. There are some exceptions (libel/slander, obviously isn't protected by the First Amendment, nor is "incitement speech" -- but with incitement normally it has to be in a riot situation, and the inciter says: "Go kill X!", and some other person kills or injures X, and the speaker who incited the violence is charged with incitement. If something is written in a text which is hateful, even if it advocates violence, it is (usually) protected under the First amendment.)
Hate speech is now up in Congress...which covers what we're doing here. Look it up!
Has he thought of taking up thumb-twiddling?
Seconding Stendec.
The chief thing to point out is that THE mark of a 'cult' is that you aren't allowed to leave and you aren't allowed to ask the smallest question of the founder or his teachings. Islam with its apostasy and blasphemy laws has 'mind control cult' written all over it.
tscipio, Thanks OA
We've been through this before. With regard to the current legislation in Congress (the "hate speech" bill) -- the "hate speech" can only be looked into AFTER the commission of a violent crime. That's AFTER the commission of a violent crime. Not before. (I am opposed to the legislation -- it's ridiculous on a number of grounds...but, it's not, strictly speaking, criminalizing speech). Anyway, the Koran could not get banned as "hate literature" (not even here in Canada with our anti-hate laws.)
thanks for the info...i hadn't seen that yet.
i stand corrected.
Ask him to demonstrate that he can read Arabic, and only then give it to him.
Infidel, I agree with you. No TV, no IPOD, no laptops, nothing? Oh, the humanity!!!
I just started reading "The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims," edited by Andrew Bostom, and I hadn't even gotten past the note about the cover art, before I got sickened and became angry.
The cover art memorialized the massacre of the Banu Qurayzah, where Mohammed himself oversaw the murder of 600-900 men, the selling (or taking into sex slavery) of their wives and children, and the taking of all their goods. Mohammed even took one of the women for himself.
And this is the perfect man everyone is supposed to emulate? What a sick, cruel, barbarous, inhuman, intolerant insanity must you have to think that's a good example for humanity? And the Koran is his message to the world? I agree with Stendec; any religious book that explains how to divy up the loot is simply wrong.
I'm sure I'm going to get even more sickened, saddened, repulsed and angry the more I read. Ugh.
hmmm...and I may also have suffered from a brief (hopefully brief) memory lapse...As I recall, here in goo' ol' Canada..someone was called up to face the wrath of a Human Rights Tribunal (it was in the province of Saskatchewan, I believe) -- anyhow, the outrageous offence which caused said perp to be hauled up for "hate speech?" Yeah, it was putting up a bill-board which referenced some quotes from a biblical passage...not the actual words, simply the numeric chapter, line and verse numbers...Yeah, now there's "hate speech!" (I think eventually this ruling was overturned, but it took about half a decade or longer).
Next, in Canada, a cryptic formuala IX.Vii.iii will have you thrown in jail. VERDI I cry, VERDI!!
Ynkedoodl2, your link sounds interesting, but all I get is a web hosting page. :(
Isn't the Koran the reason he's in the cell?
Give him nothing but a death sentence for treason.
"He has been basically sitting in his cell." Lawyer Troy Archie said.
Gosh! Poor wee fellow. Just because Eljvir Duka-a nice All Muslim Boy wanted to take a few pot shots at Infidels-part of Islamic Culture denied
by nasty Islamophobes...
The Koran occupies a place of honor in the Bush White House. Shouldn't an innocent (until proven guilty) man of an Abrahamic Faith have one too?
"He has been basically sitting in his cell."
Sitting is about all one can do in jail, after all.
Unless, of course, you have a good book.
:-)
@Thomas H.
"Neither does Hungary.
Another thing; what about "hate speeech"? I am not sure, but I am under impression that it is not allowed in America. You would certainly agree that Koran falls into that category...
Again, I am not sure about hate speech being oulawed in the US, so please correct me if I am wrong."
I never said Hungary banned or censored free speech. I was merely stating that America will not ban or censor free speech, which is what he is calling for.
I do agree that the Koran could fall into "hate speech."
"Hate speech" is not banned in America, nor should it be. Who would determine what it is? What arbitrary government agency would administer the "hate speech" bannings? We should not fool ourselves into thinking banning the Koran will stop Muslims. Destroying our own freedom to prevent theirs is simply insanity in the extreme.
Thank you, Ynkedoodl 2 for the initial mention, and thank you, J.S., for the correct link.
OMG, there's a lot of info out there. How can one honestly think "Islam means peace" when the evidence that it does nothing of the sort is so compeletely overhwhelming? Huh?
It's called political correctness, Mo.
That's how they have come to think such absurdity.
Like Goebbels implied...if you shout a lie loud enough and long enough, people start to believe it.
But...
Like any disease, it, too, must be expunged into the same ashheap of history as those who've tried it before (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim jong-il & il-sung, Hoxha, Amin, Mugabe, Mandela, Mbeki, Ortega, Quisling, Laval, Mussolini, Schroeder, Chirac, Castro, Chavez, Ho chi-minh, Pol Pot, Ceaucescu, Jaruzelski, Honnecker, Ulbricht, Peron, Zhivkov, and not to forget the upcoming soros & company, too...and that's the short list-same bunch who's massacred more innocent people than all other systems throughout history combined-but you won't hear that fact by the MSM either-birds of a feather, ya know).
:-)
"Eljvir Duka's lawyer stood in U.S. District Court in Camden this morning and told the judge his client wanted a Koran."
Give him a Bible. Or, Shakespeare's Unabridged Works. Give him a coloring book and a box of crayons.
For, if all books are of the same value, even in a court of law, or a swearing in ceremony in Congress, one book is as instructive and useful as another, right?
At least, this is what CAIR, the ACLU, RepreSINtative ElliSIN, and the cowardly media who mouth platitudes about peaceful Islam and the blessings of the Quarrel-On.
It doesn't matter that The Bible is the foundation of jurisprudence and democratic rule. These Bible devaluers think all books lead to the same source of inspiration for answers to the timeless questions which challenge the human race.
So, when this jihadi asks for a Quarrel-On, a Bible will do.
" basically sitting in his cell.."
May I suggest some options? He can lie down in his cell..stand in his cell..pace, catlike, around his cell and then there is the little used and least favorite...hang himself in his cell.
Attention Jonas Solk KING BONEHEAD,
You are not qualified to give me a lesson on law or civics so I suggest you keep your sewer hole shut post-haste.
I am more aware of the law than you can ever hope to achieve and it is obvious your comprehension skills are very low.
It is obvious you can not see how the muslims are using US law and going under the radar of our freedoms with the ultimate objective of undermining it and eventually replacing it with sharia law.
I was stating it should be outlawed because the koran is founded upon SEDITION which is also a great crime against the US govt and it is a shame you were not aware of this fact with your GED certificate so please refrain from trying to debate others who are immensely more educated than yourself.
The koran is an instructional pamphlet of sedition, kidnapping, extortion, and suggest many ways to murder opponents of islam and I know for a fact the US govt would outlaw it if it were not constrained by sleazy politics or political correctness.
There is a very strong case here for outlawing the koran as it would be for ANY political group pushing SEDITION here in the states so keep all idiotic comments to yourself in the future.
Another thing....ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION AND DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE PROTECTION FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH OR RELGION.
Do you understand the words coming out of my mouth?
Islam is a political cult posing as a religion so there goes your alleged argument for protecting these moon worshipers.
I forgot another thing.
Banning islam and the toilet paper called the koran is not enough.
Deportation of ALL muslims to their ancestral homelands of their choosing would be the final act of securing US security.
It is the same thing you do when cancer is detected in a patient.
Cut it out or burn it.
I dont know how eliminating issssslime from the US would destroy American freedoms in any sense or form.
There is no problem with Catholics, Lutherans, Buddhists, Hindus, or even atheists, but wow, muslims just love to kill and cause misery everywhere they go on this planet.
Apparentley, Jonas Sucks, thinks it would be the case.
Well, dumb is as dumb does.
Wow. I'm not precisely sure what I did to deserve such ridiculous personal attacks, but I'm glad that I've found out that at least one person on here resorts to child-like character assassination when someone merely disagrees with him.
Mr. Spencer, I would strongly urge you to disallow such rampant personal attacks in the future. I know you cannot play the part of moderator non-stop, but I do not think having such comments up on this site is constructive in the least. As you posted a few months back, such posts can unfortunately be used against you and other people who have deep concern about Islam, such as myself, but do not act like children when a disagreement comes up.
Yes, Jonas..."the children.."
Anyway, about the Koran...and giving copies to the jihadis in jail...perhaps the solution would be to have the CIA darken out all the explicitly violent passages (like you find in those "secret" memos or classified documents) (yes, I know, this would reduce the readable portions of said text to around 2 and one half pages...but, o well.) Or alternatively, the Feds could provide a "text" which would be a "special" version called "The Koran" (that is, an imaginary Torah version preaching peace and non violence.) Just doing some thinking...
Uh...right. Not quite sure what you mean by that, J.S., but okay. Cryptic messages apparently rule, here.
Cryptic?!! I thought I was being obvious. Do you *really* think/believe that the Feds would black out a Koran? (as I laugh). (Wouldn't that constitute "Koran desecration?" I can hear the screams of protest in the background). Or do you *seriously* believe that another religious text (and a Jewish one at that) would be substituted for "The Koran"? (I'm rolling on the floor). Ah yes, these "options" were presented as light-hearted amusements...not that any of this would ever occur...ditto for banning the Koran...(but, it's always amusing to speculate on outlandish impossibilities.)
J.S.: I wasn't the one who advocated such things. In fact, you seem to be talking to yourself more than me at this point. You appear to be confusing my posts with someone else's, which makes you look bad.