The weapons were already in the wrong hands, since neither party should be getting any form of assistance from the West, let alone weapons. But did anyone responsible for the original transfer foresee something like this? "Hamas seizes US weapons," by Aaron Klein for World Net Daily:
Hamas ambushed a convoy in the Gaza Strip on Sunday and seized a stockpile of US weapons transferred in recent months to militias associated with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party, according to Hamas and Fatah sources.
"We obtained the US weapons and will keep hijacking any assistance the Americans provide to Fatah. Our fighters are aware of the American and Israeli conspiracies to topple our government. We're trained and well prepared to defeat the American-backed (Palestinian) agents," said a top member of Hamas' military wing in the Gaza Strip.
According to Israeli and Palestinian security officials and Hamas sources, Hamas militias have taken almost complete control of the northern Gaza Strip in recent months, including areas from which rockets are regularly launched from the territory into nearby Jewish communities.
The officials said Fatah is restricted to acting in a half-mile radius in the vicinity of a major Fatah military compound. Hamas has set up roadblocks and checkpoints throughout northern Gaza to ensure Fatah militias remain near their compound.
After a Fatah gunman shot a Hamas member on Sunday, a Fatah convoy of three trucks was stopped by Hamas at a makeshift checkpoint at Dabit Circle, a northern Gaza town, according to Hamas sources. Hamas abducted 18 Fatah gunmen and seized stockpiles of American weapons that were in the vans, the sources said.
Hamas won most battles
The US has transferred large quantities of weapons to Fatah in recent months to back Abbas' military organizations against Hamas. Fatah and Hamas engaged in months of factional clashes until the two forged a unity government in February. But renewed fighting in Gaza in recent days has threatened to torpedo the unity deal.
The last confirmed US weapons transfer to the Palestinians took place last May and consisted of 3,000 assault rifles, but WND reported multiple others transfers were since delivered to Fatah, including a cache of 7,000 rifles last January and about 8,000 assault rifles in February.
While the weapons were meant to bolster Fatah in Gaza, Hamas has reportedly won most battles against the US-backed militias. WND reported last month that a Fatah militia in Beit Lehiya, a major city in the northern Gaza Strip, surrendered to Hamas forces after reaching an agreement in which the Fatah militants stated they will evacuate the city and altogether depart the Gaza Strip.
This weekend, according to Palestinian security sources, Baha Abu Jarad, a Fatah strongman in Gaza, surrendered a large swath of territory to Hamas, nearly completing Hamas' grasp on the northern Gaza Strip.
US sends aid to Fatah
The US Congress last month approved $59 million in aid to Fatah's militias after an earlier Bush administration pledge of $86.4 million was blocked for fear the money might reach terrorist groups. The aid package contains a new qualification stipulating the money must not be used to purchase weapons.
The vast majority of the US aid is slated to bolster Abbas' Force 17 security forces, which serve as de facto police units in the Gaza Strip and West Bank. But many members of Force 17 are openly members of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror organization and Israel has arrested wanted terrorists from these units.
WND last month quoted Israeli and Palestinian security officials stating intelligence and security organizations associated with Fatah, including Force 17, are infiltrated by Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other terrorist organizations.
Fatah infiltrated by Hamas
A top Palestinian intelligence official told WND: "We are leading a large number of investigations and some of the results prove that such an infiltration by Hamas (of Fatah's security and intelligence forces) exists.
"I can say that in some cases we diagnosed a deep infiltration to high posts in some Fatah security services," the high-ranking Palestinian intelligence officer told WND. "In some cases we believe there are officers that are exposed to very sensitive information."
He said that since the US announced it is providing Abbas' forces with additional funds, Fatah intelligence officials at the direction of American security coordinators here have been attempting to expel Hamas infiltrators. He said the past month "dozens" of members of Hamas, the Popular Resistance Committees and Islamic Jihad were found operating in the Fatah forces.
Hamas ambushed a convoy in the Gaza Strip on Sunday .....
Talk about emulating the life of their so called prophet! Bravo Hamas!
Catherine:
I agree that it takes an incredible amount of gullibility on the part of American politicians to believe that the solution is to provide weapons to the seemingly "moderate" Fatah, but their credulity absolutely pales against the performances of the Euro-dhimmis and the media that practices willful blindness in describing Fatah as "secular" despite its "militant" branches operating under such names as "Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades" etc..
When the weapons were delivered by the US (Israel too, gave them weapons), I suspected it would not be long before the Islamic terrorists would have them. I may not have ESP, But putting Muslims with weapons can have only one result...death...
But did anyone responsible for the original transfer foresee something like this? "
Good question considering that the people who are actually dying at the pointy end of these weapons are Palestinians, not Israelis.
Weaken the camp of Islam. Hand them all weapons and let them kill each other.
Sound like a familiar plan?
"A top Palestinian intelligence official told WND: 'We are leading a large number of investigations and some of the results prove that such an infiltration by Hamas (of Fatah's security and intelligence forces) exists.
I can say that in some cases we diagnosed a deep infiltration to high posts in some Fatah security services,'the high-ranking Palestinian intelligence officer told WND. 'n some cases we believe there are officers that are exposed to very sensitive information.'
-- from the article above
If even the Slow Jihadists of Fatah, who share the same belief-system, the same language, the same experiences and schooling, in the very same geographical area, as the Fast Jihadists of Hamas, are unable to recognize, and winnow out, those responsible for the "infiltrationby Hamas (of Fatah's seucrity and intelligence forces)" how can the Western powers, how can Infidels, with all their naive misunderstandings, for this unprecedented threat that is the result of millions of Muslims having been allowed to settle deep within what those Muslims have been taught to regard as enemy territory, part of Dar al-Harb, and if Muslims are taught at every step by the example of Muhammad, who practiced his precept that "war is deception," and if, furthermore, Western countries keep believing that the way to handle the problem is to "co-opt" the "bad" Muslims by instead building "good, government-funded" mosques (as Sarkozy proposed some months ago) and even "government-funded" madrasas, and giving all kinds of grants to those who present themselves as "moderate Muslims" (just see what happened to the $450,000 government grant and the imam in Nashville who has just fled the country -- and the whole tale of the FBI thinking it was using someone who may have been using it), and with example after example of Muslims in positions of authority working under the radar to break rules in furtherance of Muslim goals (look at the sale of city-owned property at far below market value for a mosque in Boston, and the role of a certain Muslim employee well-placed in the Boston Redevelopment Authority).
Have you visited the Pentagon? Have you seen the Muslim officers freely moving all about? Have you seen, suddenly, a general who shows up for a briefing with a new aide -- a Muslim aide who almost seems to be his "minder"? You haven't? Do you think Karen Hughes, or George Bush, are clever people, cunning people, people with a real sense of Islam? Do you think every member of the American armed forces knows all about Islam, or do you suspect that a few came to know, and be deeply impressed by, the "sincerity" of one or two or three Iraqi officers in Iraq -- swell fellows, great guys, would trust them with my life -- though thank god the number of such terminally trusting people has gone down quite a bit, and for many Iraq has been a permanent eye-opener.
"Infiltratation" of Fatah by Hamas. If that can happen, then anything can happen. Nothing but absolute and unassuageable suspicion, is my motto when it comes to those who are Muslim, even if they are outwardly just as swell, just as wonderful, just as trustworthy, as that Intel bigshot assured one and all, in his I'll-eat-my-hat-if-Mike-Hawash-is-guilty mode, right up to the very morninig that Mike Hawash pled guilty.
It's a real theme, and an old one: the naivete of Americans, naivete and ignorance about the world. Innocents Abroad. Smiling faces in the graduateion yearbooks, as trusting and hopeful as seniors as they were when they entered as freshmen. And the same is true of those freshmen Congressmen who enter ignorantly naive about Islam and as they rise in seniority, show no signs of having learned a thing.
The intelligence, curiosity, and ability to learn of those who presume to instruct and protect us both the civilian leaders, and the military, is just not up to snuff. Not nearly.
And it is all of us who have suffered, are suffering, and will suffer from this dereliction, by the insufferably dumb, of their real -- as opposed to phony -- duty.
Smiling faces are disappearing as the truth about Islam sets in...
why not give them nukes? oh wait we already gave the iranians the nuclear technology, silly me.
What's next, pre-made sucide vests?
Handy-dandy shaped-charges?
Madrassas?
Giving large amounts of money to your sworn enemies, and even arming them, is stupidity beyond parody.
Write to Congress, White House and any who will listen and do something. It is time this nonsense is recognised and stopped.
Once again I say it...
Does G.W. know who the enemy is?
I think not!
On the bright side, at least these fine folk are using these weapons on one another. Given enough time, perhaps the palestinians will manage to wipe one another out. That would solve a major headache in the region.
Digg link for original story:
http://digg.com/world_news/Hamas_terrorists_seize_U_S_weapons_intended_for_Fatah_terrorists
We are supporting Fatah, the lesser of two evils, in hopes they could defeat Hamas and take over control.
What the hell's wrong with our intellegence services? Are they totally void of any creativity.
There was a day and age when our intellegence people would have had the smarts to booby trap those weapons so that they blew up in the faces of anyone trying to use them -- and then seen that they fell into Hamas hands.
Thank God that British and American intellegence in the second world war used their brains, and weren't shy about using a few dirty tricks to defeat our enemies.
I suppose this is the kinder, gentler, approach to making war.
Any American school kid could think better and smarter than the so-called professional we employ to protect us today.
We need to inject some killer instinct, along with some creativity, into our intellegence services.
leonthepigfarmer;
I am of two minds as to which is more of a prize to Iran. The destruction of Isreal or the Caliphate with them at the head. I think it's a close call.
They could just as easily use the WMDs on each other as Israel or EU.
Iranian number one goal...destruction of Israel...
bonniea wrote:
"We are supporting Fatah, the lesser of two evils, in hopes they could defeat Hamas and take over control."
Wow, someone making sense amidst the general foaming of mouths!
Talking of foaming mouths, what is the surreal 'rabbit dog' referred to by 'Catherine'?
Actually, 'Catherine' was bothering my moral sense for a moment, when suddenly her second posting was mercifully deleted (you know, the one about the Tsunami being God's punishment of Indonesia because their government had expressed disagreement with one of Israel's policies, and other assorted unhinged revolting inanities).
But, come to think of it, "Catherine's" sub-literacy (misrey, leavel, dome (?), dombe (?))suggests 'she' is not even a native speaker of English. In that case, she is plausibly a Muslim impersonating a moronic American redneck in order to discredit JW.
Nevertheless, alarmingly enough, I think she is for real.
'She' wrote (in a posting that hasn't been deleted (yet)):
"The arabs say it is the palitistians who are the problem well Leavel the place and the problem goes away..."
A clear call for genocide that has the other commenters nodding in agreement.
A genuine Muslim agent-provocateur couldn't have done a better job than the extraordinary 'Catherine'.
Fatah and Hamas deserve one and other. It would be wishful thinking, to hope, they will eradicate one and other. Frankly, the woollen-headed Western-Democracies are, so, naïve they are way over their heads. By what, I’ll leave that up to others to decide.
These “people”, I use the definition loosely, are incapable of creating a civil society. How can a hodgepodge of misfits, malcontents, anarchists and mass-murderers ever be expected to become civil?
If they are not killing Israelis, they are bent on killing each other. Most unsettling, however, is the likes of Bush’s and other’s want of playing political-alchemy with the Israel’s right to exist.
Get um Catherine, olny one thing it's rabid dog not rabbit dog. And maybe the arms were given in hopes of an attack by hamas or fatah or God knows whom else wishes for Israel's demise, so this time Israel will have a right to finish the job started by the terriost's of so called palistine.
"PS
I have picked a side have you? I want my team to win! do you?"
yes, i am British national party, pro israel, pro jewish faith and pro freedom! i am not jewish but believe that the slaughter, and genocide that this great people have faced over the centuries needs some type of clause in the U.N or some other world document that to persecute them further will result in an over whelming retalitation that would effectively end the threat for the jewish people for a thousand years. hence the end of islam.
Just in case anyone is still watching things there,
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4201
a missile barrage on Israel, plus...
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4198
The so-called "truce" (as if there ever really was one) has *ahem* "broken down". Gee...what a shock.
Which is a shame What kind of a name is schmegal oh yea a hobbit what is a hobbit short big hairy feet? And last time I cked that story line schmegal killed his buddy for a ring?
And you post is wrong I didn’t say the Tsunami was Because I said MAKES YOU WONDER now if you know the Enemy who always says they do it for their rock to show them they take the wrong path is a just thing to do don’t you think?
Maybe you only saw the all-inclusive of let’s say Indonesia and say what a wonderful place while just on other side of the hill people were being killed because they were Christians by mulsums OH but that “was bothering my moral sense” so don’t tell it because I’m on vac. Yes like the kid’s who do drugs and say it is all about me I aint hurting nobody well the hurting has been going on!
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2004_12.php
Little walk down recall lane?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004434.php#comments
Oh the things you don’t see??
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004433.php#comments
yep the things you don’t see
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009529.php#comments
“was bothering my moral sense”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009542.php#comments
“was bothering my moral sense”
But there was 210,000 dead mulsums?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009559.php#comments
OH but it doesn’t affect me?
Things like these are what upset my moral sense and to find out that my on country played a part on the wrong side!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6431302053204441995&hl=de
Yes this does piss me off! Was this about Israel or Christians who believe in?
Trying to whit was the fact the Fort Dix 6 and Families were not part of this and were mulsums?
You see my Head is not in the Sand This is around the world and when I see our Government Congress Under minding the Ones who fight BECAUSE OF PC
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/009538.php#comments
FOR THOSE PRESS OUT THERE THAT HAVE NO RECALL IT’S IRAN??