Sharia Alert from Iran. "Whipped for two beers," from Aftenposten, with thanks to Kemaste (warning: gory photo of Mamandy at the Aftenposten link):
Norwegian-Iranian Mamand Mamandy had a brutal meeting with police after drinking two beers while on holiday in Iran."It's getting better now, but I am still in great pain," Mamandy, 35, told Aftenposten.no. "My brother is a doctor, and treated me after the whipping. I was in great pain and could not sleep."
Mamandy, a Kurd, explained that he was visiting his mother in Baneh, Iran in April when he was arrested by police.
"We were on an outing with family and friends, six or seven in the evening, and were having a barbecue and enjoying ourselves. Altogether I drank two beers. The police happened to drive by," Mamandy said.
He said that he was immediately arrested and taken to the police station where he was sentenced to 130 lashes. This sentence, for beer drinking, was carried out publicly according to news agency Iran Focus.
"I received 130 lashes on the back of my body. Police whipped me," Mamandy said. He came to Norway as an asylum seeker in 1999. He lives in Drammen with his wife and they are awaiting Norwegian citizenship.
This is what you can expect in your neighborhood if Muslims gain control....
...I wonder who turned him in.....
...and it is a good thing he did not mention the Johnny Walker under the bed...
"He came to Norway as an asylum seeker in 1999. He lives in Drammen with his wife and they are awaiting Norwegian citizenship."
Asylum from what? Holidays in Iran? Idiot.
-XRDC
If you flee your country and request asylum why would you think it is ok to return? But muslims go back to the home country on holidays.
This just shows the bogus nature of the majority of asylum requests. It should be stopped.
Folks, this is the kind of Islam that CAIR wants to bring into your country...
As for Iran, a pre-emptive strike is long overdue...
Folks, this is the kind of Islam that CAIR wants to bring into your country...
As for Iran, a pre-emptive strike is long overdue...
So, after all those wonderfull exemples from hadits, there are still muslims who try to refresh themselves with beer, instead of she-camel urin.
Why is this fool allowed back into Norway? Asylum? What a joke. Of course, the Norwegians will treat him as a Viking.
Maybe there should be a contest: Stupidest country. By geographic area (too much competition if it covered the entire planet).
My vote for the European region (in stupid order):
Norway
Sweden
Finland
England
France (maybe....?)
Spain
I don't see why, if asylum is granted, the precondition is that you can't go back to the country you came from, ever. Once you do, the terms of your asylum are revoked, and you are no longer able to live in the host country. That's probably "host", as in the things parasites feed off. Or am I being too cynical?
This guy wasn't too bright. After almost 30 years of wonderful sharia in Iran this guy did not know enjoying oneself is a crime? Must have been corruption by Western values that ruined his mind.
Whew, I'm just trying to imagine how many lashes I'D get.
Scary.
"Whew, I'm just trying to imagine how many lashes I'D get.
Scary.
Posted by: Miss_Anthrope"
....women seldom get lashes, usually they get stones...
Of course, if Mamandy had been caught with his brother's girlfriend, breastfeeding from her in a quiet little garden, that would have been OK, according to the latest Muslim ruling. According to Islamic rules for men, even Kurdish refugees from Norway, breast milk is halal...beer is haaram. Got that??
People give the guy a break he was visiting his Mom.
This man has helped expose the truth about Islam. Is he a muslim?
I wonder why they hold Saudi princes to a different standard. The princes and other 'royalty' are mostly drunks behind their gawdy walls of wealth. many leave saudi arabia and go get drunk in their neighbor's backyards - the UAE.
I wonder why they hold Saudi princes to a different standard. The princes and other 'royalty' are mostly drunks behind their gawdy walls of wealth. many leave saudi arabia and go get drunk in their neighbor's backyards - the UAE.
"....women seldom get lashes, usually they get stones..."
- exsgtbrown
there you go splitting hairs...
I thought that to get asylum you had to be in fear of your life in your home country and liable to arrest and torture the moment you returned? Still it should help his asylum claim.
Seymour Paine - No Britain is the stupidest country.
Within the last month the BBC interviewed an illiterate Afghan shepherd in France who had made two attempts to get on trucks going to England but ended up in Germany and Belgium. When asked why he was so keen to get to England he said it was because he had cousins there and they had told him he could get an education. He is right they can. Meantime we are drafting 19 year old shelf fillers from our supermarkets to Iraq and Afghanistan to fight for democracy.
It's s lot worse - go look - News -- IRanian Queer Organization - IRQO
Another Gay Iranian Torture Victim Tells His Horrifying Story
12 Jan 2006
By DOUG IRELAND
As the Islamic Republic of Iran’s lethal anti-gay pogrom—the government’s
intense persecutions of its own citizens for homosexuality—continues, the
victims of this oppression, despite great obstacles, continue to try to
flee from the largest religious prison in the world to tell the story of
the inhuman treatment they have suffered
The latest escapee to testify to this anti-gay reign of terror is a
28-year-old man caught up in the government‘s extensive Internet
entrapment campaign targeting gay men. We’ll call him Sam, and we cannot
identify his hometown to protect his real identity.
Sam is the son of a very religious family, most of whom do not know he’s
gay. He lived in a smaller town in which—like so many in Iran—most of the
people are also intensely religious, consider homosexuality the ultimate
sin, and agree with the Islamic Republic’s law mandating the death penalty
for any person caught in a homosexual act. Isolated and unable to frequent
his few gay friends, constantly living in fear of being arrested and
tortured, perhaps executed, Sam became increasingly depressed, and even
attempted suicide.
Because there is nowhere in Iran where gay people may legally
assemble—private gay parties are frequently raided by the police, and the
government has an extensive network of gay informers whose cooperation has
been obtained by torture, blackmail, and intimidation with threats of
prison or death—like many gay Iranians, particularly those outside the
largest cities, Sam’s only way of meeting other gay people was through the
Internet. Here, translated from Persian, is his story.
Last Spring, Sam related, “I was in a gay Internet chat room for Iranians.
A boy in the chat room was sending repeated messages saying that he was
looking for a sex partner and was up for anything. He said he was 23 and
very handsome. I finally got up the courage to arrange a rendezvous with
him somewhere in tow—he said that after meeting we could then go to his
house, as there was no question of his coming to mine.
“We met at 3:00 in the afternoon, and, as the young man was very
good-looking, I agreed to go with him by taxi to his home. A taxi rapidly
arrived—there was a person sitting in the front next to the driver, and
another in back. We got into the taxi, and my new friend suggested that I
should be the one to sit in the middle in the rear, with him sitting next
to me.
“As we drove away, it didn’t take long for them to shove my head down
between the rear and front seats and begin beating me. They put a
blindfold around my eyes, calling me all sorts of names and threatening me
with the worst as the blows continued to rain on me.”
It turned out that both the young man Sam had met in the chat-room, and
the others in the taxi, were basiji. The basiji are an unofficial
religious parapolice composed of thugs under the control of the
Intelligence Ministry and operating with the authorization of the
religious authorities. They are recruited from the criminal and
under-classes, and are employed by the Islamic government to do its
strong-arm dirty work. For example, when the government repressed student
demonstrations in universities last year, it was the basiji who were
assigned to beat the student demonstrators and throw them out of the
windows, so that the government could deny responsibility for these
violent repressions, in which a number of students were killed. The basiji
are a potent weapon frequently used in the government’s anti-gay
crackdown, and it is from their ranks that the human bait used in its
Internet entrapment campaign is recruited. Many of the basiji are young.
“After about 15 minutes,” Sam continued, “we arrived at a location—as I
was blindfolded, I had no idea where I was. I was in a state of shock—I
could not believe this was happening to me. The eventually took off my
blindfold, and then began the worst event in my life. I was surrounded by
men in civilian clothes, all of them wearing pagers, and some of them were
armed. They all had beards, and some of them were quite young, in their
late teens. Their boss was almost bald, and had a big stomach—if he’d had
a turban around his head he would have looked like a mullah, perhaps he
was a mullah in civilian clothes, I don’t know. I quickly concluded I was
in some sort of basiji headquarters. It was an old building; part of it
was a school.
“After several hours of torture, they asked me to write a statement in
which I would promise not to ever use a gay chat room again—if I did, they
told me, even heavier punishment would be waiting for me. They told me
that if they had caught me having sex they would have hanged me.
“I refused to sign their statement, so they began beating me with a heavy
metal cable. God knows how barbarous it was—they beat me at least 30
times, while kicking me with their shoes. I couldn’t bear the pain any
more, and I begged them to stop. I knew they would not stop until they had
the signed statement in their hands, and that is why I agreed to sign it.
“But even when I got up from the floor to sign their statement, I asked
why—this made their boss very mad, and he ordered his men to resume
beating me with the heavy cable, which they did while yelling more threats
and insults. The screaming intimidation felt like a hammer on my brain, it
was worse than the cable and the beatings. One of them hollered, ‘We’ll
round up all you fags until there aren’t any left to make a chat room and
play your fag games.’
“The beatings, verbal abuse, and intimidation continued until 8:00 p.m.
the next day. I was finally thrown into a storage room—the room was filthy
and full of rubbish and had a very bad smell. They kept me locked up in
that stinking little room for seven or eight days.
“One day they finally let me out, once again blindfolded me, and shoved me
into a car. We drove around for about 30 minutes—but it seemed like 100
years because they were beating me all the time. They dropped me off
somewhere and told me not to take off my blindfold until they’d left. When
I could no longer hear the sound of their car, I took off the blindfold
and saw I was on a deserted dirt road somewhere outside town. I finally
flagged down a truck and persuaded the driver to drop me off in town.”
When he got home, Sam said, he faced intensive questioning from his
family, who wanted to know where he’d been.
“But they do not know I’m gay, so I had to lie to them. But I could not
give them a plausible answer. I finally called a friend and asked him to
take pictures of my wounds and bruises from the beatings so I’d have some
evidence—but my friend doesn’t know I’m gay either, so I had to lie to him
too. I was afraid if I old him the truth the situation would go from bad
to worse, so I said the basiji had caught me when I was drunk and beat me.
When I got back home, the only member of my family to whom I could tell
the truth of what had happed was my brother, who left Iran four years ago,
and who is also gay—so I sent him an e-mail.
“I had never considered leaving my country before this horrible episode,”
Sam said, “but after it I could sense the shadow of death and torture on
my back, so I decided to escape to save my life.”
It took Sam six months after his kidnapping by the basiji before he could
arrange to escape from Iran. Four months ago, Sam made his way to
Pakistan. There, he filed a request for asylum with the UN High
Commissioner for Refugees, and eventually got in touch with the Persian
Gay and Lesbian Organization, the largest Iranian gay organization, which
has secretariats in several countries. The PGLO, which has helped me in my
previous reportages on the gay tragedy in Iran, asked me to help Sam tell
his story to the world. For as Sam said, “Iranian homosexuals have had all
their rights taken away from them, and face a bitter destiny.”
Sam today is in Pakistan, still waiting for the UNHCR to recognize as
legitimate his demand for asylum in a gay-friendly country.
There are many other gay refugees from Iranian terror like Sam, almost all
of them in dire financial straights and living a precarious existence,
constantly fearful that the countries they’ve managed to flee to will
deport them back to Iran, where a dire fate awaits them. The PGLO
desperately needs our financial and moral support, and help in obtaining
asylum for these gay refugees. To find out how to help, please contact the
PGLO through the English-language page of its website, at
http://www.pglo.net/
This is one of the reasons I suspect Sharia will never be fully implemented in the U.S.- the American man will stand up for his right to drink beer and go to bars- and trust me, the beer/liquor industry isn't going to go without a fight either.
S-
There was something called "Prohibition".
Pushed through by a meddlesome religious group.
Mormons don't drink.
There are "dry" counties in many states.
Both can be beacheads for the return of this (it'll be called "pro-health", as the banning of "transfats" has been) prohibiting of "evil alcohol".
There are "speakeasies" in every Muslim country.
They "tolerate" it when it is done in "secret".
They'll only whip a few people for public effect.
The more Muslims who allowed in, the more certain this will be to come.
We need to reverse Islamic immigration before it reaches critical mass.
(Or should that be critical mosque?)
No, New Zealand is the stupidest country. Parliament just voted this week 113 to 8 (93%) to criminalise parents who correct their children, against the wishes of 80-90% (according to virtually every poll taken) of the population.