Here is the fruit of those trumped-up hate crime reports: they translate into cold, hard, cash.
From WorldNetDaily.com, with thanks to all who sent this in:
While the European Union investigates mosques for ties to Islamic terrorism, the U.S. government is giving mosques security grants that are designed to protect churches, synagogues and other nonprofit groups from Islamic terror.Most recently, the Islamic Society of Baltimore landed a $15,000 grant from the Department of Homeland Security to upgrade security at its Maryland mosque.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations since April has been urging leaders of mosques and Islamic schools across the nation to apply for the DHS grants, even though the agency's program was set up to help protect nonprofit facilities that are at high risk for attacks by Islamic terrorists.
In a recent "Action Alert" posted on its website, CAIR encouraged its Muslim members to take advantage of $24 million in federal funds DHS has made available – specifically, DHS says, for nonprofit organizations "deemed high-risk for a potential international terrorist attack."
Organizations in 46 urban areas designated high risk for Islamic terror attack are eligible to participate in the new Nonprofit Security Grant Program.
The CAIR alert issued April 29 to Muslim members reads as follows: "ACTION REQUESTED: All eligible 501(c)(3) American mosques and other Islamic institutions are urged to begin the application process to receive training and to purchase equipment such as video cameras, alarm systems and other security enhancements."
Several Islamic institutions already have applied and are receiving government approval.
U.S. officials who spoke to WND on condition of anonymity expressed dismay that CAIR would drain limited federal funds away from higher risk targets for terrorism. They argue mosques are among the lowest risk for such attacks.
NO surprise here, we give money and arms to terrorist organizations overseas too...
insanity....
Are CAIR the equivilant of the Muslim council of great britain? Cos the Muslim council over here helps the damn parasites to suck up as much cash from the government as possible as well. If i want anything i get told to earn it myself, these gits get it handed on a plate.
Why would a mosque be a target of international terrorism?
Oh ! The US Government and the Bush administration are the terrorist and they are waging a war against Islam They are the terrorist . Got it.
Islam is a political organization. It should not have any tax exempt status.
Who is administering these funds?
Why should ANY religious building be receiving money from the government?
And that includes religious buildings in OTHER countries, too, like the madrassas and mosques in Egypt and Pakistan, etc. And in UK and France. Insanity.
The money will not be used to upgrade security in the conventional manner. Instead, some mosques will use this money to fortify themselves against possible police raids to confiscate munitions and other terror materials.
chsw
chsw,wrote "Instead, some mosques will use this money to fortify themselves against possible police raids."
The security cameras will also be used to id and track all possible mosque and islam protestors. for example alady walking adog past a mosque may be id'd and tracked , acar driving past with an anti quran message would be photoed. mosque protestors could be id'd for later identification and harresment.
these islamic madmen will go to any length to win favors from their make believe allah.
Why don't we use this money to enhance surveillance "on their behalf." DHS can "protect" these mosques from being taken over "by hostile forces" by listening and watching very closely to everything that goes on inside.
Why is DHS feeding the very cancer that is blighting our prisons, schools, courts, political system and necessitating grants like these in the first place?
Al Capone should have lived long enought to receive federal federal funds for bullets, faster cars and more secure hideouts, under this plan. For all Al's sadistic shortcomings, at least Al didn't claim he had the moon's blessing as justification for his criminal acts.
Okay, so where is the ACLU?
If the Catholic Church for instance, were collecting Federal monies -- there would be riots in the courthouse!
Where is the outrage with the American people on this one?
Not a peep!
I think that along with the amero; integrating Canada, Mexico, and the US; turning our economic policy over to the eurocrates in brussles; bush ought to sign another executive order!
Make each American taxpayer sign over a blank check to every mosque in their community!
Hell, the American people will do it and NEVER say anything! After all, they won't want to be seen by their neighbors as bigots or something>
Besides, they have plenty of sports bars -- that's what is important!
Natuarally, this money is in addition to the grants that the house of Saud provides the mosques.
Considering, that these FREE MONEY pouring into the mosques is NOT being given to American kids for education should make the taxpayers PROUD!
They deserve to have their kids in place like iraq "fighting for democracy" while their own country is undermined by their own leaders!
The American people are STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!
There politicians know it, and can confidently pull this sort of stunt knowing full well that the American people WILL DO NOTHING!
Okay, maybe they will write a nice sweet letter to pelosi or bush asking for clarification, but not much else!
This makes me damned angery, but what the hell!
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL2513935820070525?feedType=RSS&rpc=22
Sharpening the teeth of the crocodile.
Your blind, insane government at work.
"The American people are STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!
There politicians know it, and can confidently pull this sort of stunt knowing full well that the American people WILL DO NOTHING!" -- witness
I understand your frustration witness, but the American people by and large don't even know about this kind of stuff. The mainstream media make sure of that. Note that this report comes from a conservative internet press outlet. How many Americans do you suppose read WorldNetDaily.com? Maybe .0035% if that.
I disagree that the American people are stupid. The liberal/left agenda has been rejected ever since Jimmy Carter (now there's a good lesson of what happens when quixotic liberal idealists take power) despite the constant cheerleading for it by the mainstream media over the last 27 years.
One more major attack on American soil (inevitable) and the great house of cards built by the mainstream media, CAIR, ACLU, AMNESTY International, and all the rest, whitewashing the central role Islam plays in terrorism, will all come crashing down around them.
... and the American people will rise up to meet the challenge, as always. Don't forget, we slept through WWII too until the Japanese attacked.
Excellent link above by Borg.
While Synagogues and churches and Buddhist/Hindu temples are firebombed by Islamic terrorists around the world, Al Reuters reports
"Swiss reputation for tolerance under threat" and cites a retired wanker, a Clive Church, 'expert on Swiss politics', recently retired from the University of Kent.
A group of right-wing Swiss politicians has launched a campaign to ban the construction of minarets, claiming they are a symbol of power and threaten law and order.
* Please note 'right wing'- the usual leftie slur on reason and common sense
The attempt to launch a national referendum on minarets has triggered widespread criticism but also attracted some support.
"There's no doubt that the attack on the minarets is part of a larger picture of Islamophobia," said Church, who said the backlash -- if the ban became law -- could be comparable to a storm of protest last year caused by cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad first published in Denmark.
There you have it again:
"Islamophobia"- that thrumped up BS word that Wackademics and Islamo-fascist propagandists just love to death. "Backlash, neo-nazi's, racism, Islamophobia"- its all there.
Al Reuters makes sure your news is well cooked.
All of them need a shoe in the ass...
guys -
i haven't read the law, but something tells me THAT is the real problem here.
think about it: if congress doesn't specify WHO can receive the monies, then ANYONE can.
dhs probably has their hands tied, thanks to our lawmakers. AGAIN.
Outrageous.
Another reason not to pay taxes.
The most outrageous thing of all about this charade is that there are actual Islamic terrorist training camps across the US which are supported by the mosques here.
Homeland Security? What a joke! War on Terror? Where?
And I'll bet the money will be used to detonate a nuclear explosive device in a major US metropolitan city.
Fat-assed bureaucratic morons. Unbelievable.
I may decide to move to Europe. I never thought I would say such a thing.
I suppose Somalia will take over NORAD soon...
I suppose they need all that surveillance to make sure no one tosses a ham sandwich on, or near, their places of groveling.
Yeah, it makes total sense. We must behave in proper dhimmi, or else...
(please note sarcasm!!)
duly noted.
The real reason they want security cameras is so they can review the footage to figure out who the undercover FBI agents and wired informers are attending Friday prayers, and whether the suspicious vehicle with tinted windows across the street is an FBI agent staking out their mosque.
How much you want to bet that they'll produce the tapes if someone throws a pig head at their mosque, but if the FBI ever wants the tapes to see if the shooter attended mosque there, they'll say (as they always do) that they never seen the shooter before, and they only roll the cameras when no one's around.
Yeah, we must protect the mosques from those murderous Hare Krishnas and whatnot. I'm delighted my tax money is defending those who want to kill me.
"CAIR encouraged its Muslim members to take advantage of $24 million in federal funds DHS has made available – specifically, DHS says, for nonprofit organizations "deemed high-risk for a potential international terrorist attack."
Considering what happens throughout the Muslim world every day, maybe they have a point! If a mosque was indeed a high risk target for a potential terrorist attack, rest asured, it would be attacked by a radical islamist.
"U.S. officials who spoke to WND on condition of anonymity expressed dismay that CAIR would drain limited federal funds away from higher risk targets for terrorism. They argue mosques are among the lowest risk for such attacks."
Well you are the ones who setup the farking rules ya dumb shits!
Yup, I can just see it now Islam crazed terrorist plan attacks on U.S. mosques. That is bizarre to say the very least - brainstormed and brought to us by moron Homeland Security bureaucrats. CAIR has everything to gain by sucking these limited funds dry so there won’t be any left for ‘infidel’ religions that truly need them. Bast….ds!! allahu akbar!!
Our government has reached a milestone of sorts, they have assembled the largest collection of idiots in history. The average IQ of the government employees in Washington must be below 75, from the President all the way down to the lowest file clerk. There must be some pollutant in the Potomac River causing all this stupidity.
Shouldn't these Islamic armories...err mosks be required to provide a current list of security measures they already have in place so a determination can be made as to whether they need funding to upgrade?
It is quite dumb to just throw money at them. Do they have to produce receipts for the costs of any upgrades? Or are they free to send the money, our tax money, to their Islamist brothers both here and overseas?
Mosks in the U.S. are where most of these radical converts to Islam and younger Muslims, you know, the ones who say suicide bombings are justified, go to listen to the fanatic imam and come out hating anything non-Islamic even more than when they walked into the place.
How stupid. Anyone on this planet who entertains CAIR's crying and whining should never be considered anything better than being dumber than a sack of ball pein hammers.
Allowing money to flow their way is sheer sheer madness America.
These people mean great harm to your society and way of living. Why is is tolerated?
Sometimes I wonder if my country had passed the point of no return with regards to Islam. This is just too insane.
If the Muslims are buying security cameras, no doubt they will be used to try to monitor possible infiltrators and detect surveillance of the mosques by the FBI and other authorities.
Once islam is known as the enemy, then this action would become a no-brainer.
Witness
Fully agree with you. As Lee Rodgers once put it to Robert, 'Cut my throat if you must, but please don't call me a racist.'
They sure do have this figured out don't they?
How can a country as great as America get it so wrong?\
shakes head
Mind you, you could say that about a whole host of Western countries.
The once decent democrats have become "old windbags"...and their brains today ...well "narcistic". Republicans have become "weak".
Our government has lost its own way...it has forgotten us American's who love this country and has welcome a people who is determine to take us from within.
Grant's for Mosque? Come on.....damn! Even my people don't crawl on it's knee's crying for everything on a platter. If anyone has a right to ask for help from the government...it surely should be my people....not Muslim's!
By the way...plz, someone tell me, When have any Mosque in America help the needy, sick and hungry?
They don't! Their money go for their own selfish want's.
Do anyone know how much property in America that has been bought out by Muslims and with the help of our own government? Shame on our government! Our own government helps with our future destruction.
Hey....American Government, Can you give me a grant of $15,000 to protect my home ? I might want camera's all around my home so I would know if a Muslim terrorist come sneaking around my house. And would you give me a grant just in case I need a Tee Pee for travel. Would you give me medicaid? I also want a business...I want a limosene business, can you help with that. Maybe I can open up a fast food store..what you think?
This perfect legal as to protect Mosque from far right wing christian terrorist who fired bomd quite afew Mosque which is a automatic hate crime under US law. I hary know of any muslim that attack than Christian or jewish place of workship. Our Mosque have very good relationship with other place of workship of differently religion include than christian sect that start in Germany than was persuce by the Germany Government where the women dress alot like Moslim Woman includeing covering the whole body while in public and wearing than headscraf over they head. They only speak germany in religious service most only speak spanich and afew speack english only as the came from mexico afew year back.
Pew International could know that than accurate count of Muslim in America isnot possible it like the sciencist say there is X.XX 10 to the 79 power atoms in the entire Universe no way to count then all and since the size of the Universe expand from what we can see from 4 billion light year to 20 billion light year it mostly like incorrected.
American Ex Muslim
2002/08/04
I've always been a bit wary of testimonies. It conjures up images of evangelical meetings where member after member stands up to confesses that they too were sinners but have now seen the light! Followed by raucous applause and cries of hallelujah! But I recognise that it serves a purpose. Both for the individual and the reader.
I was born and grew up in the United States. My parents are both Arab. I have been a practising Muslim all my life - apart from my teenage years. I know Muslims find it hard to believe that any 'true' Muslim would leave Islam and so the usual accusation against any Muslim brave enough to 'come out' is that "Oh you were never a 'real Muslim!
Well I was. I not only practised it personally, praying all my prayers, learning the Qur'an and studying Islam. I preached it and worked for more than one Muslim organisation that promoted Islam. I was one of those Muslims who tried to present Islam as a tolerant and peaceful religion. I know many on this forum have little time for such people, but for obvious reasons I am not so hard on them. I know that's what they genuinely believe Islam to be.
So yes! I was a 'true' Muslim. I practised it, believed it, preached it and worked for it. I came to practise Islam because of the good things I was taught about Islam. My parents never taught me the other things. But as the years went by I discovered more and more that made me feel deeply uncomfortable. I couldn't square some of the teachings with my faith in the values of peace and tolerance and love. But I felt trapped. It was as though I had signed a contract in good faith only to have someone unfold the all the small print that had all this stuff about wife beating, taking captives, slavery, chopping off hands etc...
The choice then is either reject the whole thing or make the best of the situation as you can. The thought of rejecting Islam just does not bear contemplating. The concept of the Kafir and Apostate is built up so much that even now I am scared shitless that I am going to be struck down by a bolt of lightening or burnt eternally in the lowest pit of hell for my infidelity. Only a Muslim knows how strong this feeling is. Perhaps it can be likened in some ways to the members of a group I used to hear about called the Moonies who needed long de-programming sessions to re-enter the human race and stop thinking that all the outsiders were evil and brainwashed by the devil and that they would be eternally dammed if they left.
What eventually turned the tide for me? Well it was not really one thing. It was a long process of many things. Perhaps the main factor was that I always clung stubbornly to my humanity no matter what. But certain events certainly worked as a catalyst. Firstly it was Muslims themselves that brought home the futility of my attempts to show that Islam is a religion of peace, love and toleration. On an intellectual level I was confronted by the 'purists' who constantly refuted my 'peaceful' Islam and they always had the stronger evidence. Secondly, I think living in the west exposes many of the contradictions in Islam. It is easier for the mind to try and justify something inhumane in 'theory' - but it is when you have to apply it in practise to those around you that it is really exposed for what it is. Someone very close to me, who was not a Muslim but was a very good and spiritual person, caused me to question many of the attitudes Muslims have to non-Muslims.
The more uncomfortable I felt the more I questioned. But the more I questioned the more uncomfortable I felt. Rather than finding answers to calm my worst fears, I found those I argued with simply confirmed them. Either it was the Islamists telling it like it is or it was the apologist giving me nonsensical explanations that had very little or no basis in the original texts. It became clearer and clearer to me that the Islamists were right. Their intolerant, harsh and in some cases barbaric version of Islam really was the 'real' Islam.
What worried me more was that some Muslims who were aware of this intolerant and barbaric side of Islam were openly saying that never mind what our 'feelings' are, never mind what our 'mind' or 'heart' tells us we must suppress these in obedience to God and the greater good of our goal.
Well I just couldn't accept that God would want us to achieve things this way and it reminded me of the sort of mentality of the Nazis and other groups that committed great evil in the name of ' the ends justify the means' - I knew then that something here is very wrong.
But I still clung to the belief that these guys were just a crazed minority. A small and ineffectual group who would never be able to amount to anything. But since Sept 11th I have had to admit that this is not true. They are an ever-present force within Islam and they just cannot be opposed, simply because they have all the evidence to back them up.
I grew tired of trying to fight them and spread the image of Islam as a peaceful religion. I grew tired of trying to defend things that, in all sincerity, could not be defended.
That's it! I had just had enough. I was fed up with having this self-imposed barrier between me and the good and decent people who live around me, simply because they don't believe as I do. So what? Let people believe what they want. So long as they don't harm anyone. Let God judge us if that what He wants to do. I do believe in God. But I don't know what that means? I haven't got a clue who God is and what His plan is and why this whole bloody world exists?
But whoever God is - I just don't believe He is going to punish me for not wanting to hurt anyone and standing by that.
ISLAM WILL FALL FROM WITHIN, BY THE CONSCIENCES OF IT'S FORMER MEMBERS OR NON-PRACTICING MEMBER LIKE THIS YOUNG MAN!
U.S.O.F.