This also comes after Lal Masjid's chief cleric recently said jihad against the Musharraf regime should be seen as obligatory for all Muslims.
Lal Masjid Update. "Musharraf: Islamic militancy rising," by Munir Ahmad for the Associated Press:
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - President Gen. Pervez Musharraf acknowledged that Islamic militancy was increasing across Pakistan and said tough measures were needed to counter it, as religious students from a pro-Taliban mosque abducted four police officers.
Musharraf made his remarks in an interview aired late Friday by the private Aaj television channel after four plainclothes officers were captured while patrolling in the capital, Islamabad, near the Lal Masjid mosque — notorious for launching its own anti-vice campaign. Two officers were later released.
The president said that militancy in Pakistan was increasing, and "we need to strongly counter it." Musharraf did not elaborate.
Abdul Rashid Ghazi, a cleric at Lal Masjid, said his students detained the officers because they were standing outside a seminary linked to the mosque despite an agreement with authorities that police would not be deployed there.
He said the abductions were in retaliation for intelligence agents detaining eight or nine of its students in the past two weeks.
Mohammed Anar, an area police official, said that Ghazi had freed two of the policemen after talks with officials.
"The remaining two policemen will also be freed soon," Ghazi told reporters.
Critics have accused Musharraf's government of appeasing the religious vigilantes — despite concerns that pro-Taliban hard-liners, intent on enforcing a stringent version of Islamic law or Shariah, are gaining sway in Pakistan.
The Flees and Ticks are spreading for lack of Collars on their Dogs. Slime disease is hard to cure.
So much for the Afghan adventure being the "good" part of the war on terrorism. To fight in Afghanistan, we need to lean on the frail, frail reeds of Pakistan and Uzbekistan, both of which are frightfully open to Talibanesque movements.
And if our "staunch ally" Afghanistan goes to war with "staunch ally" Pakistan which "staunch ally" do we help? What a tangled web we weave, when e'er we practice to deceive. And how much more tangled the web of entangling alliances, when e'er we practice to deceive not others, but ourselves.
Yes Hugh, it is a sticky wicket, or better yet, Oliver says to Stan, 'Another fine mess you have gotten us into'.
It's interesting that these 'students', were able to 'detain' four policemen. How many un-armed 'students', does it take to 'detain' four armed (in theory anyway) policemen? HMMM there is something fishy here...
According to the news, the police have released 7 students(?) of the masjid. Then only they released the two police men. Actually 11 students were arrested. They are demanding the release of the remaining students in police custody for the release of the other police men in their custody.
What Pakistan needs is another Sadaam Hussein. He'd know what to do. It's to bad that Muslim countries can't seem to be goverened by anyone but a murderous tyrant, but that appears to be the case.
The mud just flies on this site which is distasteful and holds no purpose in finding solutions.
President Musharaff for life is in grave danger that his life is about to be ended like most Pakistani leaders are deposed.
The Chinese and Russians have so effectively bribed and overtaken what used to be the United States Muslim operational wing via proxy Islamocommunists that a new reality is about to unfold.
The complaining about 2 US allies are placing troops against each other is a misnomer. Greece and Turkey are still at odds and no one seems to ever mention that no more than Pakistan and India are both at odds with troops facing each other and both are US allies.
What is the problem is Pakistan's nuclear arsenal and roving nuclear scientists. If the US does not have an operational plan to remove those nukes, then al Qaeda (Zawahiri's pro Russian branch) is going to have full access to disperse them to terrorists against America, Judea and the west.
Musharaff is what is keeping a nuclear war from starting between the Israeli state and the Indian nation. He is very much at risk now as is Pakistan as the Russians and Chicoms both deem a vaporized Pakistan a fair trade for an obliterated Judea and a decapitated India.
The people who have been complaining about this are responsible as they so weakened the American government and tied it up that the Russians now have the board set up where the advantage is all their's.
Control from the Balkans to Singapore with only Japan on the flank means all oil in control of Russia's Bolsheviks feeding the Chicoms as fodder against America who is starved without oil.
Europe capitulates over oil blackmail and the US is left alone.
There is a reason America is in Iraq and in Pakistan........loose those pieces bright bloggers and instead of fighting the Eurasians in the central Asian steppes where American firepower can prevail.....you fight them instead in Alaska and into central Canada and in the Sonora dessert with 20 million willing illegals for Chicom and Russian hire.
There is always allot of talk here about intelligence and calling others stupid. When one knows part of what is really going on and what George Bush has been attempting and has been attacked by his own people........Bush is so far ahead that his detractors all look like children complaining about what is for lunch when he is planning 10 years down the road.
Jihad and Islam are a ruse, a proxy and a fake. The real game is being played by adults who know all of this and know on this worldwide board which pieces keep an invasion from hitting America.
Perhaps people can type at the Chicoms and Russians as that is sure to stop their AK 47's and Sarinovs.
What a difference a chip would make. Animals are worth it why arn't people?!!
Clear and unmistakable sign of desperation on the islamists part (forget for a moment musharraf is part of the problem)...
...to the lunatics, musharraf doesn't side with them (he knows his jewels are in a vise), so they consider him a traitor...
...now with pressure on him ro do more, it has obviously hit a nerve (read that as hitting the root of al qaeda this time-age-old evidence shows they only freak out and pull this when you get close to something sensitive to them)...
...this is desperation on the islamists part, not power, as (they took the cue from the old soviets) under normal circumstances, they will never pull something this serious off unless they're sure they can win.
Not only are they not sure, they know if they don't (like their peers elsewhere on Earth) they lose, so with nothing left to lose, this happens.
desperation...frantic desperaton
the advantage here is simple...people attacking from the point of desperation almost always screw up eventually, exposing a fatal error...and so far, the islamists have done that every single time.
I'm going to sit & watch this play out.
"Musharaff is what is keeping a nuclear war from starting between the Israeli state and the Indian nation.
Posted by: Lame Cherry"
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arjun.sevak
....I concur...???
President Jack Shepard promises; "I would do everything in my power to support President Musharaff even more then we do presently. We in America must never forget that it is only his life that is keeping a nuclear bomb from getting in the hands of radical Non-Faithful to Allah terrorists who do not fear Allah!
These present day terrorists; are living in a world where they really have forgotten Allah's word and Allah's 10 Commandments. Allah says;
"taking a human life will send you to dwell in the fires of Hell Forever and Ever."
From Presidential Candidate Jack Shepard's Media Campaign Against Worldwide Suicide Terrorism
visit: http://www.shepardusgov.com/Partial%20video.html to hear Dr. Shepard's video warning Suicide Bombers they will dwelling in the fires of Hell forever and ever not Heaven.
Visit Official Presidential Campaign web site of the Jack Shepard for President committee
http://www.jackshepardforpresident.com
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Islam's Teachings Prohibit Terrorism, Says Imam Posted GMT 9-22-2005 23:15:13 AINS News Service
ROME --The imam of Rome's Grand Mosque condemned terrorism in the name of Islam, stating that "Islam is the religion of mutual knowledge and peace," not of "mutual hostility and clash."
Sheik Mahmud Hammad Sheweita made this statement at a press conference in Rome's Foreign Press Room, to present the Media Campaign Against World Suicide Terrorism, led by Jack Shepard, founder of the People for Peace Group.
The imam reminded his audience that suicide and murder are illicit.
"It is very clear that the killing of innocent people and of peaceful people have been declared illicit by Allah," he said Wednesday.
Also present at the press conference was Abdella Redouane, secretary-general of the Islamic Cultural Center of Italy who, when asked about Benedict XVI, said: "It is a privilege for us to be in Rome so close to the Vatican. Our relations are very good. We were at the Pope's funeral and we have already met in private with Benedict XVI, who, although he is different from John Paul II, follows a line of continuity in relation to Muslims."
Moreover, Redouane was pleased that Benedict XVI wanted to meet with Muslims in Cologne, Germany, and said that he hoped that, after her audience with the Pope, journalist Oriana Fallaci will be "less venomous against Muslims, and also against the Vatican."
For his part, Jack Shepard, promoter of the campaign against suicide terrorism, recalled that Rome is a place of meeting and dialogue between religions. "If all the world were like Rome," he said, "we would not be talking about such topics
Below is the Text of Imam Sheik Mahmud Sheweita statements in support of the Media Campaign Against Worldwide Suicide Terrorism led by Dr. Jack Shepard, founder of People for Peace Group
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Islam is the Religion of mutual knowledge and peace,
not the Religion of mutual hostility and clash
Statements of Imam Sheik Mahmud Hammad Sheweita, in support of the Media Campaign Against Worldwide Suicide Terrorism led by Dr. Jack Shepard, founder of People for Peace Group
9/21/2005-Rome’s Foreign Press Room
The teachings of Islam show the highest respect for all humanity and proclaim the inviolability of all men and women, of any origin or skin colour, without distinctions based on their ideas or doctrines. Allah in the Noble Qur’an says: “We have honoured the sons of Adam; provided them with transport on land and sea: given them for sustenance things good and pure: and conferred on them special favours” (Sura 17:70).
In the same way the Islamic Shariah treats with justice every human being and does not make any difference on the basis of race, nationality or religion. Allah the Highest said: “Oh you that believe! Stand out firmly for justice as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin …” (Sura 4:135). The understanding that Islam has about justice is that of an absolute justice without any exception, of a universal justice far from any abuse of power or oppression. Human societies lost the right path when they administered justice in a wrong way, denying it to others but their own citizens. Islam, instead, recognizes freedom of religion to all men and women. This is clearly stated in many verses of the Holy Qur’an and in hadiths of the Prophet (pbuh). Allah says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion: truth stands out clear from error …..” (Sura 2:256). And again: “If it had been the Lord’s will they would all have believed, all who are on earth! Wilt thou then compel mankind against their will, to believe!” (Sura 10:99). In accordance to this divine decree, written in the Holy Qur’an, Allah has clearly defined the tasks of His Messenger Muhammad – may Allah bestow on him eternal happiness – in the clearest terms, without any ambiguity. These tasks are explained in details to the Messenger by Allah the Highest in the following verses: “Therefore do thou give admonition, for thou are one to admonish. Thou are not one to manage (men’s) affairs” (Sura 88:21 and 22). And again : “If then they turn away We have not sent thee as a guard over them. Thy duty is but to convey (the Message) ….” (Sura 42:48). Allah says also: “The Messenger duty is but to proclaim (the Message)….” (Sura 5:99) and again: “ ….. If you do turn back, know that it is Our Messenger duty to proclaim (the Message) …..” (Sura 5:92). Allah’s Messenger – may Allah bestow on him His Blessings – always remained faithful to the commandments of the Lord, leaving to men the freedom to embrace Islam or to remain faithful to their own religion and pledging to respect their religion, and their properties.
The principle that there is no compulsion in religion is by itself very clear, I would like, in any case to touch three topics:
1. A notion of Jihad referred to a war has never been understood as a method to coerce men to embrace Islam. If compulsion to embrace Islam would be legitimate certainly the Holy Qur’an would mention it. Instead, the Divine Revelation states exactly the opposite, denying the use of force to convert people to Islam. It is absolutely impossible that the Word of Allah – to Him the Glory – may present contradictions or ambiguities. Why then a violent form of Jihad has been possible? The Holy Qur’an authorizes war only tom fight oppression, iniquity and aggression. Allah the Highest command Muslims to abstain from aggression and to spare the life3 of innocent people. The Qur’an says: “… If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves” (Sura 2:194). Among the teachings of the Messenger of Allah Muhammad – may Allah pray for him and grant him eternal happiness – there is one which says that it is forbidden to harm innocent people even in a legitimate war of defence. The Prophet – peace upon him – said: “Do not dare to kill the elder, the young, the woman, those who adore Allah, those who work who do not participate in the war and do not wear weapons. This because Islam loves life, sanctifies it and preaches to men to love it. All this the Noble Qur’an says in a very clear way”.
“….. If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people”.
2. The man who kills himself, the suicide, it is certainly the worst case of killing, because man has been taught love to one’s life and to protect it as a gift from Allah. If to kill a man is a terrible crime and sin, to kill oneself is an even more horrible crime and sin. Allah prohibited it saying: “….. make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction: but do good for Allah loveth those who do good” (Sura 2: 195). The Messenger of Allah Muhammad – may Allah grant him eternal happiness – instructs mankind to abhor suicide and prohibits it saying: “Who kills himself with a sharp blade, in his own hands, will continue to push it in is own body eternally in the fire of hell, and who kills himself with a poison will continue to drink it in the fire of hell for the eternity, without dying, and who kills himself by jumping from the top of a mountain will continue to jump in the fire of hell for the eternity without dying”. The Prophet – peace upon him – mentioning a man who wanted to kill himself said: “He was going to kill himself wishing for Paradise and I denied it to him”. Another time the Holy Prophet said about a man who killed himself: “I will not pray for him”. It is very clear, therefore, that the Islamic Shariah prohibits suicide, and all what the Prophet – peace be upon him – said demonstrates that suicide is absolutely forbidden forever and in any form it may take.
From all what I said before it is very clear that the killing of innocent people, and of peaceful people, have been declared illicit by Allah. Therefore all what happened in the explosions everywhere is contrary to the teachings of Islam. Teachings that prohibit without any doubt terrorism against peaceful people and their assassination.
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The two leading Democratic Presidential
Candidates; Hillary Clinton and Barak Obsama are
very sadly lacking in any military experience at all.
They are two classic examples of candidates complete
unqualified to be your next Commander-in-chief.
They would choose from their democratic friends a
completely new group of inexperienced people to head
the Intelligence, Military, State Departments etc.
placing America unnecessarily at risk at a time where
America is in the middle of very complex Global War.
I like General Dwight Eisenhower did during his
Presidency will bring to the White House a fresh new
face of a political outsider with the vast military
experience and the experience of how to use it. Only
with a commander-in-chief who has and knows how to
use his military experience can we win our Global War
on Terrorism.
I would be working with our present proven team of
USAF Gen. Michael Hayden, Vice Admiral John
McConnell, Secretary of States Condoleezza Rice,
Secretary of Defense Richard Gates, and Secretary of
Veteran Affairs Jim Nicholson and other strong
possibilities who I consider irreplaceable. They are a
proven team excelling in their work. Their experience
and talent would bring to my administration and our
country much needed stability we surely need in a
time of war to have a smooth transition from the
present Administration to the next.
With the present very complex situation worldwide I
would think it an unwise choice to completely change
the present Cabinet. It would hope and pray that
professionals like ex-Secretary of States Colin Powell
would return to work in my administration.
I promise to do what ever it takes within the first 100
days of my administration to create the sovereign
State of Palestine living side by side in peace and
happiness with Israel. I promise this dream will
become a reality. Immediately if elected I would move
to Phase
III: Permanent Status Agreement and End of the
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict- Click-Major Change! This
is a promise I make to my fellow Americans and all
the citizens in the Middle East, "If elected the next
president of the United States for the first time in
over 50 years I will create an environment where
Peace will flourish between the Israel and its
neighbours in the first 100 days of my administration."
I would need experienced Middle East Professionals
like ex-Secretary of States Colin Powell to work with
me to guarantee that my promise to do what ever it
takes within the first 100 days of my administration to
create the sovereign State of Palestine living side by
side in peace and happiness with Israel will become a
reality.
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Presidential Candidate Jack Shepard
supports much closer coordination between
Counterintelligence Agencies and Law
Enforcement Centers with expanding the
power of agencies like CIFA; a little-known
Pentagon Agency called the
Counterintelligence Field Activity. If
elected; Jack Shepard guarantees,
“Government agencies like CIFA will be
immediately getting increased funding and
all the support they need from my
administration, to guarantee that these
agencies have everything they need to
make America safe from terrorists by
expanding our ability in identifying
previously unknown or suspected terrorist.”
The election of Jack Shepard will mitigate risks
Americans face at home or abroad because of
his in-depth knowledge of the counter
terrorism field.
His election as the next President of the United
States will enhance the Security of the Untied
States.
Jack Shepard is qualified like no other
Presidential Candidate now running for the
office of President. He has 'knowledge
products' he uses daily playing a significant
role in his threat assessments and advisories
and risk assessments in support of his efforts
in the protection of critical operations,
resources, and technologies to better protection
America from the exploitation of terrorists
both home and abroad.
"Musharaff is what is keeping a nuclear war from starting between the Israeli state and the Indian nation.
Posted by: Lame Cherry
I think that what is ment, is a nuclear war that Pakistan unleashes on India and Israel.