Prison converts to Islam drawn to, of all things, terrorism. Now how could that happen? Has anyone thought to investigate how the recruitment was carried out, and pondered what could be done about it?
Super Max Jihadists Update. "Drawings link prison converts to terrorism," by Frank Walker for the Sun-Herald:
CHILLING evidence has emerged that some of the state's most dangerous prisoners have become devotees of terrorism after converting to Islam.Drawings found in the Super Max cell of Bassam Hamzy, ringleader of 12 Islamic converts within the high-security Goulburn jail, suggest some in the gang see themselves as assassins bent on causing terror in Australia.
The Sun-Herald can reveal a hand-drawn gang logo was found in Hamzy's cell bearing the words "assassins australia FFL" with depictions of AK-47 assault rifles. Checks by Department of Corrective Services security officers found FFL stood for "Freedom Fighters Lebanon".
A handwritten note was found saying: "Solja Warrior We don fear death and sometimes we wish for it [sic]."
Guards also confiscated a photo of Osama bin Laden found in Hamzy's cell.
Critics attacked prison authorities, claiming they targeted Hamzy because he was Muslim when they revealed he had converted 11 inmates to Islam, using promises of help outside the jail. They were known as the "Super Max Jihadists".
Hamzy, 28, who is serving 21 years for the 1998 murder of an 18-year-old man, was transferred out of the Super Max jail last month.
"This is evidence that prison authorities were not targeting Hamzy because of his religion," said NSW Commissioner of Corrective Services Ron Woodham yesterday.
"Hamzy's defenders should look at this evidence closely, as he is clearly talking the rhetoric of a terrorist."
"This is evidence that prison authorities were not targeting Hamzy because of his religion,"
If not this time...maybe next time...or the time after that...but soon...
"Solja Warrior We don fear death and sometimes we wish for it [sic]."
Let them get what they wish for, death now why wait .
Same as US prisons...echoes of how the sturmabteilung came into being...recruitment of thugs, deviants, and overall pond scum who are total losers on their own.
It's only a matter of time.
CHILLING evidence has emerged that some of the state's most dangerous prisoners have become devotees of terrorism after converting to Islam.
Note to government: they DO THAT when they believe the prophet.
A prisoner loves to hear that they don't have to become a "nice" person to "find god"...just stop eating pork and pray 5 times a day...hate all you want...
I wonder how many people in the U.S. are aware that there are a huge number of Muslims in our prisons and that Imams, trained and certified by Wahabi run religious schools in the U.S., troll among the prison’s population of violent and disaffected inmates--ready made Jihadis--for converts.
According to this story, it was partly a "pay to pray" scheme:
[...]Obvious questions: Whose name is on the account? Who may have solicited contributions? Who contributed?
The case gives new meaning to "You couldn't pay me to do that."
Power ideologies are seductive to the marginalized. Prisoners are receptive to all kinds of extremism. Prison authorities must recognize that Islam is just as pernicious as the KKK or the Nazis and should do what they can to discourage it. They should start by nixing imams from prisons. Of course, since Islam is not yet considered to be in the same league as the KKK, it will take some time before the appropriate steps can be taken. Keep educating.
Why are we surprised that Islam has such appeal for criminal inmates? It is a religious ideology that generally forgives all prior evil conduct as allah makes lawful for the criminal and allah makes profitable for the criminal what the criminal otherwise has already done and what the criminal would intend to do. The islamic part that allows the criminal to rape, steal, pillage and kill the infidel outside the community of followers will give the psychopath a life of privilege and special meaning. Many will feel they have been practicing islam for their whole life.
"Critics attacked prison authorities, claiming they targeted Hamzy because he was Muslim when they revealed he had converted 11 inmates to Islam, using promises of help outside the jail. They were known as the 'Super Max Jihadists.'"
-- from the article above
The well-financed carefully-targetted campaigns of Da'wa have a captive audience in prisons, and the perfect audience, an audience of the disaffected, the marginal, those ready for an explanation and justification of their own war on society. And the missionaries of Tablighi Jamaat and other groups, and those smiling Muslim "chaplains" (I know an Egyptian who trolls the prisons of New Jersey, unstopped by any authorities)and Muslim prisoners themselves, every one himself a missionary, find the perfect pool of potential converts in prisons. Meanwhile, the authorities do nothing, look away, pretend it is none of their business. They think they are helpless to do anything. But they are not. There is a clear relation between conversion ("reversion") to Islam, and that convert's subsequently becoming a permanent enemy, determined making subsequent war on the legal and political institutions of the Infidel nation-state, and furthermore, that convert now has a jsutification for his criminal behavior, when the victims are Infidels.
This cannot be ignored. Those whose duty it is to protect us either should inform themselves, and then do what is necessary, or resign, get out of the way, for others more intelligent and more capable.
Just for fun,
http://www.theodoresworld.net/pcfreezone/mickey_muhammed.jpg
Prison inmates being recruited I mean converted to islam? Hurry, call your senators your representatives. What? They are clueless? Oh well, nevermind. Just what we need, an islamist Charlie Manson, Ya know, since I have been following the islamists Manson is looking like neighbor material. And when Manson starts looking like an alternative/a potential good neighbor you know you are in trouble.
Malcolm X in prison saw the Islamic way. It is not just Islam, but White Supremiscists, IRA, MS 13, bangers to the various feces drawn upon walls of the West Indies plying the drug trade down to the riot hells of Mexico.
Prisons have always been recruitment grounds as gangs offer protection and "favors" in prison become paybacks in the real world by family and the prisoner.
One reason Muslims are all pleading guilty of crimes now is to get into prison, make contacts and because the coming wave in getting out of Iraq is American hostages for trade for terrorists.
This is the way things are done and unless more Gitmo facilities are placed in isolation to stem this the world is going to be paying for terrorist school training....just where do you think Zawahiri became Zawahiri, but in Egypt and in a Chechin prison run by the FSB.
"Now how could that happen?"
Simple. Look at Australia's Muslim "leadership." They're stoking the flames:
Perfectly logical for a "religion" founded by a thief, pedophile, master of assassins, and terrorist warlord.
(If Hitler had started a "religion", maybe these same thugs could have been converting to "SS-ism" all along. But now they've found The-Mother-of-All-Gangbangers: Islam.)
It should be forbidden in prison. As "a source of disruption, infiltration and encouragement to criminality".
Hey, maybe we should all convert, we could overwhelm their infrastructure and they wouldn’t know who to trust. This pay to pray thing, is it only for incarcerated individuals or can anyone reap the benefits, so to speak? Look, I can pretend to be just as pious as the next guy if I want to so how bout it? I could use some extra cash as I’m sure all of us can with the Saudis having us over a barrel and all. Take a look at gas prices pre 9-11, and now, and then tell me they aren’t funding the global islamist threat. Although we are recouping some of our losses monetarily through online porn, a popular islamist “recreational activity”, or so our soldiers in the Me tell it, and I believe them.
Lord Ha Ha speaks,
get the toilet paper out.
“To hell with the Americans, frankly...”
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25552_British_Lord-_To_Hell_with_America&only
We are big meanies after all, we are standing in the way of peace, just look at hamass, fatwah, colonel sanders (oh sorry col sanders isnt involved my bad) killing each other. Can you not see Americas hand all over that? Dammit, when is the world going to learn America is, well America is alla, how else do you explain our control over any and all Me situations?
If both Australia and the U.S. stopped calling Islam a religion, they wouldn't have this problem.
Islam is not a religion, it is a political organization based on a political ideology. Political organizations don't have the right to send Chaplins into prisons.
I am assuming that we as tax payers are footing the bill for the special dietary requirements for Muslim prisoners. Students in U.S. public schools can't even say a prayer before a football game,and I doubt that any court would allow for the special dietary needs of a Jewish student by a public school.
Islam is not a religion.
If he has been moved from the Supermax jail, where is he now and is he going to be allowed to continue his mission in other jails.
There really is a case for the return of capital punishment here
"Islam is not a religion, it is a political organization based on a political ideology."
I agree, and I would like to add that Islam is an orgnaized crime group.
From "The American Thinker," here is an excerpt of James Lewis' May 18 article, "U.S. opens door to millions of Muslims"
These modern pols are attempting to sell us all out,bringing a horrid future to our children in the process. I honestly believe that kennedy and his ilk hate us all, that there is no explanation except that they are enemy agents, moles if you will. How perfect is that, the first brother a distinguished war vet, the second a pres and an assassinated one, the third assassinated in service to the country, and now the mole who uses his brothers service to America to hide his filthy commie agenda. The real Manchurian candidate, or more properly,Stalinian candidate.
Their plan, stupidify, intimidate, indoctrinate, subjugate.
"Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished ... The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black.” http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/05/evolution-of-education-into.html
Thet all should swing for treason, they would if we really were a nation built on law.
US opens doors to millions of more Muslims...
I like to pretend that my government is on the ball sometimes. In my scenario, the President meets with Bolton in a secret room from time to time, where they talk about the looming failure of the social safety net, the likely failure of our system of government in the aftermath, and Islam. They game out all the options.
They determine that the least-worst option is to import tens of millions of high school dropouts who may not be that sharp, but are at least nominally good-natured team players. People who will quickly bankrupt our form of government and usher in a new form of limited democracy with a strong executive. Bush-Bolton find this option far better than dragging things out and allowing more Islamic penetration.
That’s what I like to pretend, it makes me feel better. Regardless of the intent, the legislation moves our national timeline forward by probably five years. Land in stable Central American countries (Belize, Costa Rica, and increasingly Panama) is an excellent investment. Businesses and high-income individuals will probably flock there as water finds its level up north.
Apart from Crims-who can doubt the appeal of Islam to them-majority of white converts are middleclass liberals.Kennedy has been mentioned-guy has never had to do a hand's turn in his life[apart from lifting a glass of alcohol or shagging giggling Democrat supporters]-old Joe Kennedy made sure of that with a Fortune based on
questionable if not criminal undertakings.
See son of well known Conservative Stuart-Whyte
who converted to Islam has recently been picked up in a terror sweep in U.K.
A frightening trend, I agree. Whether Christian,Hindu,Atheist,Buddhist or other,new converts are brainwashed to become killers thus
'proving' their obedience to Allah and His Messenger.
As many Aussie Jailbirds are already killers,all that remains of indoctrination into glorious Islam is some bombings & promise of 72
virgins by a grateful Allah in great brothel
above Mecca...[or below it??]
There is some wierd mentality that you cant keep religion from prisoners. This has led to numerous lawsuits giving prisoners the 'right' to religion.
Not only that, but they have a 'right' to 'privacy', which means that guards can't sit in on, or listen to, religious sermons or talks. The guards are not stupid, they know what these imams are teaching and they know the product that is being produced, but they can't do anything about it, because the PC. crowd has already enabled prison imams to produce jihadists out of the mentally fractured inmates.
You can't get religion out of prisons now, it's too late, but we can redefine Islam from religion to political movement, revoke it's tax free status, and stop its teachings in prisons.
This would make Mosques political offices subject to reporting income (Saudi?)and paying taxes.
Pez wrote: "Land in stable Central American countries (Belize, Costa Rica, and increasingly Panama) is an excellent investment. Businesses and high-income individuals will probably flock there as water finds its level up north."
Belize is anything but stable. In fact, Prime Minister Said Musa called out troops & tear gas today.
South of the Border Dog Fight
"Hamzy's defenders should look at this evidence closely, as he is clearly talking the rhetoric of a terrorist."
W.R.O.N.G. Hamzy's supporters should be D.E.P.O.R.T.E.D.