“This ring is Allah. If you don’t let me cut your hair, I will punch you with this ring”

Hate crime in Queens. “Hate-crime charges in haircut attack,” by Mitchell Freedman for Newsday, with thanks to all who sent this in:

A Queens high school student was charged with hate crimes Friday for violating a Sikh student’s religious beliefs by forcing him to remove his turban and cutting his hair, the Queens district attorney said.

“The defendant is not accused of some schoolhouse prank, but an attack on the fundamental beliefs of his victim’s religion and his freedom to worship freely,” Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said in a prepared statement.

Umair Ahmed, 17, of 42-49 77th St., was arrested in the Thursday attack in a bathroom at Newtown High School in Elmhurst.

Ahmed and another student allegedly forced the 15-year-old victim into the bathroom, and after threatening him forced the boy to remove his dastar, a traditional Sikh turban….

Ahmed used scissors to cut off his victim’s waist-long hair, then threw it in a toilet and on the floor, according to a spokesman for the district attorney. Cutting a Sikh’s hair is contrary to the Sikh faith, which considers hair a gift from God that should never be cut.

Ahmed was charged with second-degree unlawful imprisonment as a hate crime, second-degree menacing as a hate crime, second-degree aggravated harassment, second-degree harassment and fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon. He faces up to seven years in prison.

The victim told officials that he only went into the bathroom and took off his dastar because he feared that Ahmed would stab him….

The boy said it was against his religion, but Ahmed showed him a ring and said, “This ring is Allah. If you don’t let me cut your hair, I will punch you with this ring.”

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  1. says

    Ahmed needs to get in touch with the ACLU asap! His rights to threaten, harm and kill in the name of Allah are being curtailed by the Kafir Queens court.
    Muslims are the best people and they are devoted to MoHAMmed (pigs be up him)who is the best man that ever lived. This precept alone should cancel out the rights of polytheists, Crusaders, Jews and other pig-monkeys.

  2. says

    This is exactly why we need to get a handle on Muslims in our country now. Can you imagine the challenges of being a teenager coupled with threats from junior Muslim psychos who think they have a right to terrorize other teens? That’s all we need.

    It’s about time these people who use our laws against us with immunity get back as good as they give.

  3. says

    They have no respect for any other religion. They complain about the handling of their unholy book an inanimate object, but they have no problem physically demeaning other people. He and his cohorts are cutting off hair now, but they will graduate to heads eventually. Think about all the complaints they lodge regarding perceived insults and then contrast that with what they do. This is only the beginning we have allowed a cancerous ideology into our midst and even worse our guvment doesn’t seem to recognize the symptoms. Or are we so islamist infiltrated that they are pulling all the strings, remember that 911 was a wake up call, it was not the beginning of the attack on America. Muslims are a minority and in many cases recent immigrants, and we all know that the guvment bends over backwards for both these groups these days. The question for me is who is really running the show?

  4. says

    Send him, and all like him, back to Mecca.

    Let them pay for their own Koran-created lunatics.

    No more subsidizing the prison jihad.

  5. says

    . “He faces up to seven years in prison.”

    I bet he gets no time in prison and gets to go to classes so he can learn about different cultural traditions and also sensitivity training to learn about feelings, especially feelings, the poor kid..

  6. says

    Deportation proceedings should begin immediately, a la Sarkozy in France.

    I was immensely cheered, however, by the “Islamophobia” article by the Reformist Muslim in the “Wall Street Journal.” I e-mailed CAIR in Michigan saying they should all read the article! Esp. liked the wearing of the label “Islamophobe” as a “badge of honor.” That it is. Signed “Proud Islamophobe” after my name.

    They seem to think that “Islamophobe” is some sort of insult, LOL. If a Muslim referred to me as an Islamophobe I’d say, “Thanks for the compliment!”

  7. says

    ‘They seem to think that “Islamophobe” is some sort of insult, LOL. If a Muslim referred to me as an Islamophobe I’d say, “Thanks for the compliment!”‘

    You are more likely to be called an ‘Islamophobe’ by a non-Muslim.

  8. says

    Imagine what they’d be like if they ever had a plurality, let alone majority.

    Taking on a 15 year old Sikh boy – typical Mohammedan courage. Where are the various Sikh militant outfits when one needs them?

  9. says

    I saw this story about someone cutting the hair of a Sikh student, but the stories I saw didn’t mention that that “someone” was a Muslim. Well, this story doesn’t come out and say that either, just that “someone” invoked the name of Allah to carry out his assault.

    Similarly, there is this strangely half-told story. In San Francisco a few days ago, there was an explosion that injured three people and heavily damaged two buildings. I was suspicious, but assumed it was either a natural gas leak, or maybe a meth lab, although details were sketchy. Now it comes out that the explosion was caused by a large quantity of gunpowder. The people injured were inside the house where the explosion took place (ie. where the gunpowder was being stored); the only thing we know about them is that they used to be in prison. Obviously the police know their names and background, but nothing, and I mean nothing is being released about who they are or what they were doing.

    It makes me wonder, why wouldn’t the authorities want to identify the “victims” of an explosion, or to identify people who were storing large quantities of gunpowder? I guess I’m just an abnormally curious person, because the media doesn’t seem to care, the story is buried inside the paper. Ho hum, just another explosion destroying a couple of buildings in a major city.

  10. says

    Obviously this was a thought out attack, plus with the security of most northern schools how was he able to obtain a deadley weapon, scissors. There for his punk a$$ should be incarsareted without bail. If this was a white kid doing this attack, the press would be screaming their heads off.

  11. says

    On principle, I don’t believe that this country should be charging anyone with a so-called “hate crime.” A “hate crime” is nothing less than punishing someone for what they think, not for what they do. It is an attempt to bludgeon people into thinking politically approved thoughts about things like race, gender, religion, and a dozen other categories needing special consideration as determined by the politically correct establishment in this country

    What anyone thinks, or hates, about someone elses religion, race, gender, etc., is their business, and should never be subject to punishment under any law.

    What these bums did to this Sikh student is criminal, and the criminals should be charged with every criminal act they committed — except thinking — and they should be as severly punished as the law allows, including for violation of his civil rights.

    For those who think that hate crime laws are a good thing, consider that we are conceding to the government some fictional constitutional right to regulate our thoughts. Consider also that these laws are highly selective, and are generally enforced selectively.

    Ask what the charges would have been if the student had been a White Anglo Christian student. I doubt that hate would even be considered as a charge.

  12. says

    This will receive publicity in Sikh newspapers and communal organizations. This will not be forgotten. The Sikhs have traditionally been what Kipling and Churchill would have called “a martial race.” This will have consequences.

  13. says

    Robert

    I must warn you that there have been have been stories about Sikhs getting their hair cut and blaming it on others because they did not want to face their parents. So there’s a big chance that this boy could be lying. I hope he’s not pulling our leg to get sympathy for a “hate crime”. And frankly I’m not surprised. Muslims in England harrass Hindus and Sikhs and it’s not surprising that it’s not happening here.

  14. says

    Correct, Hugh. They ran this story on Fox News an hour ago. CAIR was pleased about our elected officials “hate crime” legislating. Too bad for them that they represent the perpetrators, not the victims, as is apparent by the content of this thread.

    Additionally, Fox News didn’t tow the PC line on this story. They called these two wannabe barbers what they are….Muslim students.

  15. says

    “The Sikhs have traditionally been what Kipling and Churchill would have called “a martial race.” This will have consequences.”

    Posted by Hugh above.

  16. says

    Ian,

    The Sikhs are as far from primitive as you can get. They are a highly civilized people of honour and decency. They have been the primary defenders of Indians against the jihad since the time of Guru Govind Singh in the 1600s.

  17. says

    tonite i am praying to wahe guru to take revenge from these barbarians, mohammedans and disciples of this brutal allah. rak karega khalsa, musalman rahe na koi

  18. says

    The very idea of putting at the same level, as a poster above does in an intolerably crude manner, Sikhs and Muslims, is disturbing. It bespeaks an unawareness of the very great differences between Islam and Sikhism, Muslims and Sikhs. What doctrines of Sikhism are a permanent threat to all non-Sikhs? What doctrines in Sikhism limit artistic expression, or free inquiry? For god’s sake.

    The origins of Sikhism are very likely to be located, at least partly, in the felt need by some in India for a more aggressive response to Muslim oppression. The Sikhs stress martial virtues — and perhaps there is some connection (I don’t know) with members of the kshatriya cast in Hinduism). I always feel comforted when I see Sikh turbans on inspectors and other staff members at Heathrow. They, after all, know what Islam is all about.

  19. says

    What group cries “hate crime” when a burnt Koran is left on the doorstep of a Mosque? CAIR and muslims.

    What group cries “hate crime” when a teenager throws a ham sandwich at another muslim teenager? CAIR and muslims.

    What group pushes for “hate crime” laws to protect them from uncivilized and hateful infidels? CAIR and muslims.

    Payback is a bitch.

    I used to be against hate crime laws. I’m all for them now. I firmly beleive that we will see more muslims charged with hate crimes than any other group. I hope statistics are being kept somehwere.

  20. says

    Let us not forget that Sikhs have been known to engage in terrorism as well, including the destruction of airliners in furtherance of their own geopolitical holy wars. This is not to equate them with islamists, but to remember that while Sikh extremism may not be antithetical to Christianity and the West, as is Islam, it is cavalier with regards to slaughtering the Hindus in India or abroad, if that is where the fight takes them.

    Thus, Ian’s suggestion is that this could lead to violence in America between muslims and Sikhs that will surely take innocent lives in the process should such violence begin to play out in our big city streets. The prospect of more third world conflicts coming to our shores I believe was the nature of the aforementioned lament.

    Or perhaps we should welcome such a conflict, between Sikhs and islamists in America, as another theater of war which might “weaken the camp of islam”?

    I’d prefer they take it outside.

  21. says

    But they were Muslims people. The Devil made them do it. We can’t possibly fault them for that can we?

    the first Muslim who tries to trample on my personal space or my rights is gonna be in for the biggest suprise of their souless pitiful lives.

    We need to stop running away and fearing these people . they should be afraid. afraid we are going to finally have enough of this crap and send them packing .

    Stand up and fight back.

  22. says

    Why do Moslems have to be such racists, bigots, and co-exist-o-phobes?

    They wallow in self pity, pretending to be victims, yet they are the true perps. All over the world where there is conflict, Moslems are involved.

    Islam is intolerant. Islam is supremecist.

    Islam belongs in the desert. Buried quite deep in the sand, so that it cannot ooze its way back to the civilized world until it has been reformed.

    Ban the Koran. Put the Imams out of business.

  23. says

    Special_guest

    In a Times of India link that I provided, they did mention that the ‘barbar’ (short for barbarian in this case) was Pakistani vs one that does indeed have the central interests of the Sikh Panth at heart. A follow-up to that story can be found here, which somewhat mirrors the Newsday story above.

    KAOSKTRL

    You’ve gotta be kidding – carrying a kirpan (an ornamental dagger) to school?

    Hugh

    I do hope it has consequences, but the Sikh panth outside India has over the last several decades been split between an anti-Indian, pro-Pak Khalistan movement, which has territorial claims on India, but none on Pakistan. I do hope that such Khalistani organizations join in the rest of the panth in denouncing the Muslims in this incident.

    For more about the Sikhs, the marial race, and what drove them, see here.

    Wrathofasma,

    I am guessing that Umair Ahmad very helpfully chose to go along with this scheme, getting himself charged with a hate crime in the process. And that too, not for a fellow Mohammedan, but a Sikh. Get real!

    Swimmer,

    Raj karega Khalsa indeed – Lahore, Multan, Peshawar aur Nankana Sahib wapas lay leo (take back the places listed above).

  24. says

    Two Moslems on one Sikh, older Moslems, apparently threatening to knife him. Sikhs historically did not take kindly to Moslem atrocities.

    See http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/2006/10/even-more-drastic-times-call-for-even.html

    and

    http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/2007/01/islam-in-punjab-of-india-moslem-mughals.html

    Not that I am advocating Sikh reprisals on Moslems here. This is America and there are laws. Would it be lawful, however, when faced with such forcible acts as haircutting for Sikhs, circumcision for anyone uncircumcised, beard-shaving for orthodox Jews, rape for unveiled kafir women, to defend oneself, to resist the completion of these acts with as much force as circumstances require?

  25. says

    “You’ve gotta be kidding – carrying a kirpan (an ornamental dagger) to school?” Posted by: Infidel Pride

    It’s legal here in Canada.

  26. says

    Make them eat a Ham Sandwich as punishment. Or force them to Pray AWAY from Mecca. the Earth is round so technically their prayers to Satan will still get there , albeit it may take a little longer .

  27. says

    He’ll get off on a technicality & his parents will pay a fine for some trivial plea bargain BS, like simple assault-you watch…
    …after all, the victim’s not one of the “targeted groups” protected by the rabid attack dog brownshirted thought police of the 5th column better known as political correctness.

    Watch & learn

  28. says

    The kirpan is indeed legal to possess in school in Canada. The kirpan must be in a sheath, and the sheath sewn into a cloth envelope that is sewn to the clothing. The student has a kirpan with him at all times, satisfying religious conditions, but it cannot easily be accessed.

  29. says

    What verse in the Koran mandates or even sanctions cutting a non-Muslim’s hair?
    Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 26, 2007 06:06 PM

    well these are moderate Americanized muslims, its only when they aspire to join the overseas taliban that they learn to saw off heads.

  30. says

    “What verse in the Koran mandates or even sanctions cutting a non-Muslim’s hair?”
    Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 26, 2007 06:06 PM

    It might not say anything about cutting hair, but cutting heads, feet, legs are clearly there.

    I personally could overlook a hair cutting, if they let me keep the other limbs.

  31. says

    PMK

    I don’t know if there is a verse in that wretched Holy Book about cutting someone’s hair. Ask Robert. But Sikhs are required to grow their hair and to cut it is a big deal.

    Okay, looks like this story is real. The Sikh boy really did get his hair cut unwillingly. And for what? A yo mama joke: http://www.gothamist.com/2007/05/25/yo_mama_joke_le.php

    Either the joke was so bad or this Pakistani fellow was touchy. But 7 years in jail is too much. Make him clean a Sikh gurudwara, that might teach him a lesson.

  32. says

    “What verse in the Koran mandates or even sanctions cutting a non-Muslim’s hair?”
    Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 26, 2007 06:06 PM

    ————————————————-

    It’s not about Cutting hair at all . It’s about being intolerant of non Muslims beliefs. The Hair is sacred to Sikh’s and it is a Religious affair, so naturally as a good Muslim that cannot be tolerated and they must be attacked .

  33. says

    sikhs are neither aloowed to work nor visit saudi arabia. reason – sikh scriptures are considered to be hostile to uncle mo, allah and all those gangsters.

  34. says

    “This ring is Allah. If you don’t let me cut your hair, I will punch you with this ring.”

    Allah has such peace-loving-non-violent followers representing him.

  35. says

    jihadwatcher,

    It is true that there was a short period of “Sikh terrorism” back in the ’80s. However, this terrorism was a political reaction to the oppressive policies of Indira Gandhi’s half-baked socialist government. When Sikhs finally killed her, very few lovers of freedom were upset.

    It was Indira who helped create the Khalistan movement to start with. She hoped to split the Akali Dal who were protesting against Article 25 of the Indian constitution, which defines Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains as being Hindu. After the ill-conceived Operation Bluestar borrowed a page from General Dyer’s desecration of the Golden Temple, many Sikhs found themselves completely alienated from the Indian government. Then the Paki ISI got involved and the Centre found they had made a creature they could not control.

    India has now moved away from Nehru’s socialism and Sikhs are becoming one of India’s most prosperous minorities so the issue of Sikh terrorism is mute.

  36. says

    From a post above: For those who think that hate crime laws are a good thing, consider that we are conceding to the government some fictional constitutional right to regulate our thoughts.

    The only thing good is that this can be turned on muslims as someone noted above. I dont like hate legislation but if we have to have it, lets use it to our advantage. A nation snitching on muslims is the unintended consequence, that CAIR and the leftists who dream this stuff up, had not thought about. Your going to drown in your own shortsightedness CAIR…something like drowning on your own spit…Allah know best…

  37. says

    Hugh,

    Regarding your post, the Sikhs do stress martial virtues. But they are very freedom loving and they really know about the menace caused by Islamic terror.

    There is the true story of Guru Tegh Bahadur, one of the Sikh gurus. When Aurangazeb was converting Hindus to Islam by pressure, a group of Brahmins from Kashmir approached the Guru and asked him for help. The Guru instructed the Brahmins to tell Aurangazeb that they would accept Islam if the Guru could be convinced to do so.

    When the Guru met Aurangazeb he said that Hinduism may not be his faith, but he would fight for the right of all Hindus to live with honour. He refused to embrace Islam and told the king that he neither converts others by force, nor submits to force. He was put to death in a gruesome manner by being subjected to starvation for days in an iron cage and was then beheaded while praying.

  38. says

    Wrath, my apologies – I thought that you were giving the Mohammedan the benefit of the doubt for no apparent reason.

    Re your suggestion that he be made to clean a Sikh Gurudwara, remember when former Punjab Chief Minister Surjeet Singh Barnala was made to clean the shoes of visitors to the Golden Temple as penance for ordering police into the shrine, and did it to deflect political opprobrium? The same should be done to Umaid: make him sit at the shoerack of the nearest Gurudwara at his place, and clean the shoes of all visitors. Have it videoed and broadcast worldwide as a lesson to the ummah.

  39. says

    And here i thought it was whote racist thugs who attacked Siks and Hindus after the attacks of 9/11.

    Stupid me.. I was reading the NYT and watching the nws on the MSM netwerks..

    This actaully made the news here in New York and the perp’s sister forced her way into the press conerence to declare her brother’s innocence.. the DA was seen and heard on camera telling her to get her own press conference. But there was noone to get her off the mike.

    If the DA had done so himself he would have been off the case no doubt..
    ..Only in New York, Kids.. only in New York..

  40. says

    special_guest said in his posting –

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016632.php#c399795

    “I guess I’m just an abnormally curious person, because the media doesn’t seem to care, the story is buried inside the paper. Ho hum, just another explosion destroying a couple of buildings in a major city.”

    The MSM does not cover the small scale incidents of jihad. There have been riots in 3 cities in central India in the past week and not one was reported. It is now clear to everybody that the muslims were making bombs in the masjid in Hyderabad when one went off. This was not the work of some terrorists. But the MSM is now completely silent on this. They all have just shut up. The local newspapers are the ones that carry some vague details. In the city of Bhopal, muslims are taking out protest marches against an art gallery that had the audacity to display a painting of a mullah sawing off the head of an infidel. They say that this painting “targets one particular community”. For the love of Mike, this is just what they do ; they saw off heads. And we dare not even talk about it.

  41. says

    What a sad indictment of Western Society it is when Muslims are able to intimidate and assault people who belong to other religions.

    Sure, the offender in this case has been charged, but the very fact that he was in Queens in the first place is scary.

    Surely we need to rethink multiculturalism altogether if one group thinks that they can lord it over everybody else.

    Sikhs are, on the whole, a bunch of benign, friendly, interesting people. As a Christian I don’t agree with their religion, but accepting that I live in a multicultural country (Australia) I’m perfectly happy to have one as a next-door neighbor and they can drop around any time for any sort of dinner ingredient they should ever be low on.

    James Forsyth

  42. says

    http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=bb957d855e5533781c8b3e974f0235d4
    Iqbal Singh, 66, was standing with his 2-year-old granddaughter in his family’s carport in the 3400 block of Agate Drive, waiting to depart for a religious service at the San Jose Gurdwara, when he was stabbed once in the neck with a steak knife. Everett Thompson, the 25-year-old assailant, was a neighbor who said in police interviews that he stabbed Singh because he wanted to kill a Taliban

    wait there’s more..

    http://www.fbi.gov/page2/may07/hate050207.htm

    Hmm, CAIR seems to be silent.

    hmm the hate crew on jihad watch are really silent…thanks Rob for this informative article about this ignorant Muslim youth.

  43. says

    Muslims are the best people and they are devoted to MoHAMmed (pigs be up him)who is the best man that ever lived. This precept alone should cancel out the rights of polytheists, Crusaders, Jews and other pig-monkeys.

    Thanks for your intelligent comment.

    This is exactly why we need to get a handle on Muslims in our country now. Can you imagine the challenges of being a teenager coupled with threats from junior Muslim psychos who think they have a right to terrorize other teens? That’s all we need.

    Yes all those innocent young teenagers who beat up teachers, sell drugs, bully other teenagers, have sex in school and all of those lovely beneficial things that happen in American public schools. Yes those “junior psychos muslims” are really threatening these innocent suburban youth. Are your serious?!

    It’s about time these people who use our laws against us with immunity get back as good as they give.

    Yes spoken like a true American.

  44. says

    Here in New York the first day I saw this story I read it in the NY Daily News and the NY Post. The Post mentioned one of the attackers names and nothing about his religion, which I kind of figured out already anyway. The Daily News did actually mention that they were muslims. They tried to play it off as it just being a teenage boys fight over a joke in what is one of the rougher schools here. I was in a good number of fights in high school here and never once did I think, hey, I know, let me cut off his hair. maybe there is nothing in the quran about cuting off hair, only heads, but it is part of the dhimmitude, make them feel subdued and humiliated.
    I also believe the whole hate crime thing is nonsense but here is a chance to turn it on one of the protected groups it is supposed to be covering. I do not know a whole lot about the Sikh faith but less than two miles from my home there is a large Sikh community and I have never heard of any problems coming from that area related to this faith. Give it a few days, the poor misunderstood muslims in this one will become the victims. I believe these attackers originally come from somewhere else, they are here getting a free education on American tax dollars and they show their gratitude by being violently intolerant of anyone who is not them. Get them out now before they graduate to the next step. Still praying that America wakes up in time.

  45. says

    So we have another moronic islamist/apologist posting his BS. Look fool, one attack by a bonehead who couldn’t recognize a sikh when he saw one after 911 and that’s what you use for comparison? What a typical muslim, thousands of islamist attacks worldwide for 40 or more years and not a word. Give me a break you and your ilk are the original haters of the world. You talk about us and what we do in our schools, well at least we don’t have sex with goats or gang rape our girls for some perceived slight and use religion to hide behind afterward. We know what is going on, we see our soldiers in the ME on the Military channel, and they say all of you are busy, not working, downloading porn, masturbating, isnt four wives enough? Yep everywhere they see a computer monitor they see porn. If you are going to be filthy minded perverts don’t come around telling us what we are doing wrong. Oh by the way we don’t make heroes out of those who decide to take the law into their own hands, but your gang does, every single time without fail. So clean up your own filth pits that islamist grievance theatre is old and everyone knows you all are real tough when you have an advantage, but if you don’t you inevitably end up on the ground in the fetal position, whining, don’t hurt me, don’t hurt me, waa, waa, waaaaaaaa.

  46. says

    If this Muslim has been taught to believe that his ring really is al-lah (which may well be the case), that would be a very clear indicator that Islam is in actuality idolatry.

    It also furnishes proof that Islamic idelogy enables Mslim males to crown themselves ‘allah.’