U.S. Selling Out Bosnian Christians to Muslims, Serb Leader Says

Naturally, it wasn't enough for us to just support *muslims* in Bosnia per se. No, no, no, we had to support the most militant, violent jihad-prone stripe of muslims in the country. We had to give Nato and military backing to the islamic leader whom Bosnian muslims didn't even give their full support behind in the first Bosnian elections, that would be the only Muslim leader who could ever have been construed as *moderate, Mr. Abdic, whom if muslims ever voted for in the first place it was likely to have been out of intimidation and terror. We had to give support behind a leader who brought in Wahhabis, Afghan and Iranian jihadis and the likes of Al Qaeda and Hezbollah to Eastern Europe because his own people kept abandoning him in his war to create an Islamic entity in all of Bosnia, or shoukld I say all of Yugoslavia. We had to proclaim as some kind of moderate a guy whose role model was a certain Iranian dictator who thought it was perfectly acceptable for grown men to have sexual attractions to toddlers and pre-school age girls.

And how many Americans or Westenrers know what Izetbegobitch actually stood for. How many who thought we had to assault Bosnain Serbs to help out Izetbegobitch's *innocent* followers even know just what his Islamic Declaration, let alone ever taken the time to analyze it. How many muslims in Bosnia or in the Sandzak part of Serbia, feeling threatened and assaulted by Middle Easterners trying to force purist islam on their secualrist lifestyles and attitudes, even realize it was their own dictator Izetbegobitch who invited them in and gave them incentives to turn Bosnia Islamist. How many...oh, why even go on at this point. Next douchebag who tries to expalin about how Izetbegobitch brought in the mujadeen simply to *protect* his people, as opposed to bring violent jihad into Eastern Europe, gets decked, and gets Izetbegobitch's Islamic shoved down their f**king throat.

Naturally, it wasn't enough for us to just support *muslims* in Bosnia per se. No, no, no, we had to support the most militant, violent jihad-prone stripe of muslims in the country. We had to give Nato and military backing to the islamic leader whom Bosnian muslims didn't even give their full support behind in the first Bosnian elections, that would be the only Muslim leader who could ever have been construed as *moderate, Mr. Abdic, whom if muslims ever voted for in the first place it was likely to have been out of intimidation and terror. We had to give support behind a leader who brought in Wahhabis, Afghan and Iranian jihadis and the likes of Al Qaeda and Hezbollah to Eastern Europe because his own people kept abandoning him in his war to create an Islamic entity in all of Bosnia, or shoukld I say all of Yugoslavia. We had to proclaim as some kind of moderate a guy whose role model was a certain Iranian dictator who thought it was perfectly acceptable for grown men to have sexual attractions to toddlers and pre-school age girls.

And how many Americans or Westenrers know what Izetbegobitch actually stood for. How many who thought we had to assault Bosnain Serbs to help out Izetbegobitch's *innocent* followers even know just what his Islamic Declaration was, let alone ever taken the time to analyze it. How many muslims in Bosnia or in the Sandzak part of Serbia, feeling threatened and assaulted by Middle Easterners trying to force purist islam on their secualrist lifestyles and attitudes, even realize it was their own dictator Izetbegobitch who invited them in and gave them incentives to turn Bosnia Islamist. How many...oh, why even go on at this point. Next douchebag who tries to expalin about how Izetbegobitch brought in the mujadeen simply to *protect* his people, as opposed to bring violent jihad into Eastern Europe, gets decked, and gets Izetbegobitch's Islamic shoved down their f**king throat.

Didn't Europe try something similar with the outer bit of Czechoslovakia in 1938?

From Today’s British Independent

Bosnian Government to repatriate foreign-born jihadists

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2578472.ece

Would anyone like to comment on how accurate this is?
The Independent is an incredibly dhimmified newspaper so I imagine this is only partly true. There is a lot they are probably leaving out.

I am amazed the American Government still doesn't "get it."

The rights of non-muslims under Muslim Governments are virtually non-existant. What happened to America's commitment to democracy?

They probably think that by doing this it will lead to Muslim goodwill toward the West, leading to a break-through in the Middle-East Peace Process.

This was tried extensively in the Nineties.

It didn’t work then and I don’t think it will work now.

Another story from that part of the world..

Kosovo Albanians plan to honour their “saviour” Bill Clinton by erecting a statue of the former United States president in the capital of Serbia’s breakaway province.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/24/wclinton24.xml

They know who their friends are.

Well this story should have Morgaane Sinclair tickled pink.

I would think Dodik and the rest are under immense pressure right now. The US Administration figures that if they manage to separate Kosovo from Serbia, the Serbian Republic in Bosnia will automatically secede too. So they're trying to shore up the wreck that is Bosnia-Herzegovina by trying to remove legal institutions of the Serbian Republic. I most certainly hope they will fall on their noses in this effort.

And lately the US government has been selling US out too!

bosnia-herz is 50 % christian look it up!!!

This is one more bit of evidence, if any more was needed, for those who cling to the idea that Bush, and the Bush Administration, "knows what it is doing." These loyalists, who put their Faith in George, range from Norman Podhoretz at "Commentary," to Charles Krauthammer, to any number of others who cannot bring themselves to recognize that the Bush Administration does not know where to put its feet and hands when it comes to Islam. How else can one explain the failure, over six years, to come up with ab energy policy, especially one that includesmuch higher taxes on gasoline, and government support for nuclear reactors (as in France, where nuclear energy supplies 80% of the electricity), or subsidies for solar energy (as in Germany), designed to diminish the Money Weapon? How else explain the failure to change or even to begin to discuss the need for changing, immimgration policy as it pertains to those who are loyal to the umma al-islamiyya (that is, all who identify themselves as Muslims) and, one is perfectly justified in assuming, adherents of the worldview that is inculcated in the Qur'an, Hadith, and sira? How else can one explain the failure to take full advantage of the Arab Muslim genocide against black Africans, Christian and animist in the southern Sudan, Muslim in Darfur, that provides the excuse needed to seize those terirtories and hold them for a referendum that will ensure that the oil of Sudan will no longer be available to the Muslim Arabs of Khartoum, and that the Islamic thrust southward in East Africa will not only be halted but reversed? How else to explain the continuing failure to support Western European countries opposed to the admission of Turkey into the E.U.? How else to explain the idiocy of the non-oversight of runaway Al Hurra? Of Karen Hughes' vacuities? Of Condoleexa Rice's saccharine and dangerous pieties, that rival those of Bush and of Blair, about Islam?

And finally, there is Serbia. Serbia, a permanent member of the Western world. Serbia, not under Milosevich but under his political enemy -- that is, Serbia Under Good Government. Yet the indiffrence to Serbian interests, the cruelty of the way in which the history of the region, under the Turks and indeed right now, with the destruction by Muslims of venerable Serbian monasteries and churches, and every sort of atrocity that, for some reason, never has gotten the attention that atrocities attributed to the Serbs always received, also bespeaks a foolishness in the Bush Administration and in the State Department, permanently biased, as it seems to be, in favor of the forces that wish to appease Islam. So Serbian interests are thrown to the dogs. And plans are made to throw Israel to the howling "two-state-solution" wolves. And Pakistan is supplied with fantastic weaponry. And other weaponry is piled on to every Arab regime that can pay for it in the Gulf. And nothing whatever is done to educate the public about Islam, because if that public did learn about Islam, then the criminal negligence of our rulers here and in Western Europe would be obvious.

Listen to Dodik's complaint. Unlike Milosevich, Dodik cannot be demonized in order to call his cause into question. He helped, after all, to oppose Milosevich; he replaced Milosevich.

NOw think about the centuries of Turkish Muslim rule. Think about the devshirme. Think about the cultural impact of that Turkish Muslim rule on the Serbians -- see, if you need to see, Ivo Andric's doctoral dissertation on this subject. Now think about World War II. Think about the Bosnian S.S., and Hajj Amin el Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem, visiting Hitler, and the Handjar Brigade.Think of Jasenovac, and Operaton Kozara, and a good deal more. Think about about what Izetbegovic openly declared as his goal -- the re-imposition of Muslim rule in whatever part of the Balkans he could start with, and he looked forward, as part of that, to bringing the Shari'a back.

Now think about the letters and telephone calls and emails you intend to write over the next week about the State Department and the pressure on Serbia over Bosnia.

Hugh is right.Time for an Offensive on Top Brass & Politicians,many of whom alas appear NOT to have Hugh's education-they've only heard of those
'foreign' places before bombing 'em...
Anyone know of a politician who has actually picked up up Koran & read it-sure would make their hair curl[even Donald Trump's strange ferret transplant] if they did??
By my reckoning & other JWatchers-CHRISTIANS ARE THE MAJORITY IN BOSNIA BE THEY ORTHODOX OR CATHOLIC-an important point to make.
Please add Alija Izetbegovic's ISLAMIC DECLARATION also the fact this Muslim hero only
escaped being charged with WAR CRIMES by dying.
Even the most stupid guy in present U S Administration must realise WAHHABIS ARE ACTIVE IN SARAJEVO-Jihad tapes of Infidel Beheadings[including exploded American soldiers in Iraq] are openly sold in markets near Mosques.
Time to have a look at Ceric,think his name is-calls himself Grand
Mufti now-speaks honied words to the West whilst
defending 'Holy Foreign Warriors' Rights to remain in Bosnia...Yeah,time to check out this Mufti's connection to Saudis.

Our freaking government is out of control. Bush and Rice still support the failed Clinton-Armitage Balkan policy, kow-towing to the Saudi funders of terror.

What is in the Patomac water that makes them all so blind to reality?

Basically it's just too terrible for words.

We are throwing the Infidels to the Islamist wolves. And the icing on the cake is we are demonising the victims in the process.

Well, nothing more to add, except a pox on the Dhimmi NATO forces who sided with the Islamists. Even as we speak , the fools are in faraway Afghanistan spreading the word of "demAAAAAcracy" to those oh-so-deserving Islamist-nutters . They handed a chunk of Europe to the murderers and now they're pissing billions away in the Hindu Kush just so that Ahmed and his donkey can mark a cross against some bin laden wannabe candidate.

HURRAH !!!! DEMOCRACY AT WORK

As pointed out by Fjordman and many others , it's all about the Dhimmis in the West, about the appalling self hatred that's buried so deeply in the psyche of so many . That's why we happily murder Serbs just to score some brownie points on Arab street - it's a cul de sac dontcha know? - how we simply have to sacrifice US and Brit lives and countless billions so that muslims can experience demAAAAcracy. Heaven forbid they have a secular leader in power who takes care of the Infidels.

Morgane, Hugh , Maxwell et al, great comments

Asked why he was coming to Washington if to be read the riot act, Dodik said it was "hard to refuse when you've been summoned."
from above

And this just explain not only Serbian, but much world wide reasons for disasterous decisions in relationships with umma. Left without american pressure, hardly any state in Europe (beside albania) would support Kosovo and Metohy indipendence or bosnian slippin to caliphate.
Considering Dodik, not only he was true antimiloshevic politician. In fact, he never participiated in bosnia civil war cos his disagreement with Karadzic policy. Thus he represented some kind of new way for bosnia and its new hope for a future. Serbs elected him in order to get better future. In contrast, muslims vote for their war time leader, second in command after Izetbegovic, whose only political program was unification of bosnia and destruction of Serbian power succesfully as it was already done with catholics Croats (who in turn, are so dismayed by muslims, that their representative Zeljko Komsic, was actually elected not by Croatian but mostly muslims votes. Croatians are now joking that only croatian thing in Komsic is a bullet which he 'mistakenly' earned by croatian military in civil war).
While Serbs on the balkans were usualy considered as buffer zone against umma, present american policy makers ovbiously doesnt consider Serbs even worhy of it at all. Probably, cos today islam doesnt stand on the borders of the west as untill XX century, but gradually absorbs west from inside like some letal cancer or virus. What is more strange, that policy comes not from allready dormnant europians, but from americans who DO (although somethims clumsy) resist jihad and at least have a will to fight and defend values of judeo-christian civilisation.
Dodik said, two days ago, that from his point of view 'Republic of Srpska is sacred and bosnia can be or doent need to be'. But he also noted, that if Serbs are to be forced to live in unitarian bosnia, they would have to leave to some better place (i.e. muslim free). Actually it is all about that. Haris Silajdzic and his grand mufti Mustafa Ceric (whom some of us Serbs jokingly call mulla dadulla), will get christian depleted country whose 'moderate and secular' nature of islam is to be revealed in most horrific way. Those in white house should listen those people who nows not only islam, but bosnia as well, far better than 'experts' from MSM. People from america like Hugh or Robert, or people from balkans like Kusturuca whome I have listened 5 days ago on local Belgrade tv station in christian tv show called 'agape', where he has said (speaking about his conversion to christianity): 'there is no such a thing like secular muslim'.
And who can tell that better but ex muslim and ex bosnian.

From Odyessus

"They probably think that by doing this it will lead to Muslim goodwill toward the West, leading to a break-through in the Middle-East Peace Process.
This was tried extensively in the Nineties.
It didn’t work then and I don’t think it will work now."

Course it won't work : the islamists see it for what it is.

Fear and weakness.

They've dealt with shits like this throughout their conquests.

They're confronted by some squeamish Dhimmis begging for preferential treatment and in return the Dhimmis will help hunt down some proud Serbs / Indians / South Sudanese / Jews.

This policy comes from the same knuckleheads who were shocked, yes, SHOCKED when the Iraqis didn't welcome them with bouquets of flowers.

Their understanding of islam is just so poor: They honestly think that the rabid knuckle scraping islamists are a chessy carrot and stick policy away from being Ohio Presbyterians.

I laughed myself hoarse when , in 94 and Iraq really started to go downhill, this yank approached me, his face pale, and all he could say was "WHY DON'T THEY LIKE US". He'd been a big supporter of the bombing of Serbia, and yet despite all the grovelling and brown nosing , "they still don't like us"

What a prat.

What Hugh said.

Less Christians in Iraq. More Muslims in Europe. Way to go.

The age of outward Muslim outrage (at the slightest "provocation", like a bunch of cartoons) and inward non-Muslim outrage (at seeing the leadership sell us out, make all the possible wrong moves).

THe shame of NGOs and government PR agencies in the manufacture of pulic demonization of Serbia.

Jacques Merlino: "Les verites Yougoslaves ne sont pas toutes bonnes a dire"

It is permitted to expel one people from the world community. To define it like a pack of rapists and extremists having nothing to envy to Nazis. It is permitted to raise the whole planet against this people, to prepare them tribunal recalling that of Nuremberg, to elaborate plans for military intervention and strategies for target bombardments. It is permitted to chase their state from the United Nations and to submit Serbs to the total economic embargo. This is permitted because that's what is done.

Ruder & Finn are public relations company,(engaged by the Clinton admin) currently registered as foreign agents. Here are Harff's statements
To have managed to put Jewish opinion on our side. This was a sensitive matter, as the dossier was dangerous looked from this angle. President Tidjman was very careless in his book "Wastelands of Historical Reality". Reading this writtings, one could accuse him of of anti- semitism.
In Bosnia, the situation was no better: President Izetbegovic strongly supported the creation of a fundamentalist Islamic state in his book "The Islamic Declaration". Besides, the Croatian and Bosnian past was marked by a real and cruel anti-semitism. Tens of thousands of Jews perished in Croatian camps. So there was every reason for intellectuals and Jewish organizations to be hostile towards the Croats and Bosnians. Our chalenge was to reverse this attitude. And we succeded masterfully
We outwitted three big Jewish organizations - B'Nai Brith Anti-Defamation League, the Jewish Committee, and the American Jewish Congress. We suggested to them to publish an advertisement in the New York Times and to organize demonstrations outside the U.N.

This was a tremendous coup. When the Jewish organizations entered the game on the side of the (Muslim) Bosnians, we could promptly equate the Serbs with the Nazis in the public mind.
by a single move, we were able to present a simple story of good guys and bad guys, which would hereafter play itself
We won by targeting Jewish audience. Almost immediately there was a clear change of language in the press, with the use of words with high emotional content, such as "ethnic cleansing", "concentration camps", etc. which evoked images of Nazi Germany and the gas chambers of Auschwitz. The emotional charge was so powerful that nobody could go against it.
Our work is not to verify information. We are not equipped for that. Our work is to accelerate the circulation of information favorable to us, to aim at judiciously chosen targets. We did not confirm the existence of death camps in Bosnia, we just made it known that Newsday affirmed it.
Question: Are you aware that you took on a grave responsibility?
Harff: We are professionals. We had a job to do and we did it. WE ARE NOT PAID TO BE MORAL

THe consequences are HISTORY

It is not such blatant US demands for a national suicide that I fear. They will be dismissed out of hand by Dodik or any other Republika Srpska leader. It is the "creeping integration" I am concerned about, a seemeingly harmless set of measures that eventually bring about the same result.

Morgane: Bosnia is 55% Islamic. That is a statistic.

defending 'Holy Foreign Warriors' Rights to remain in Bosnia...Yeah,time to check out this Mufti's connection to Saudis.
Posted by: Morgane

Holy my foot.

CNN had a story earlier today about the erection (fitting) of a bronze statue of Bill Clinton in the main square of a city in Kosovo. I only caught the end of it, such is my trigger happy remote control finger, but I could hardly believe it. Then, thinking more on it I could believe it completely. I'll try to find the link on CNN online and supply it here if I find it there.

Didn't find it on CNN but here it is. It's still in the planning stages but will happen in the next few months:

"PRISTINA, Serbia, May 24 Kosovo's ethnic-Albanians are to erect a statue of Bill Clinton in the provincial capital of Pristina in gratitude to the former U.S. president.

Sculptor Izeir Mustafa said he was thrilled when assigned to work on the 10-foot tall statue because he is aware that Clinton saved Kosovo Albanians from extermination when Serbian forces launched a military campaign in 1999 against ethnic-Albanian separatist guerrillas, The Telegraph online daily reported Thursday.

Mustafa told the British daily Clinton "is our savior." Clinton was the U.S. president when NATO's air bombardments stopped Serbian police and military forces and drove them out of Kosovo. Western officials estimated about 10,000 ethnic-Albanians were killed and another 800,000 were driven out of Kosovo by Serbian forces.

Formally, Kosovo is still a Serbian province but since 1999 U.N. administrators and NATO troops have been deployed in Kosovo to contain ethnic conflicts between 1.6 million ethnic-Albanians and 100,000 Serbs. The issue of Kosovo independence is now before the United Nations.

Pristina town authorities plan to place the bronze statue on Clinton Boulevard in the coming months."

He also gets a boulevard named after him!

I see that they're already having fun with this on freerepublic.com

[url]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1839171/posts[/url]

we'll see if the url code works or not. if this isn't the right code can somebody tell what works? thanks.

Looks like the story originated with the online Daily Telegraph.

The Tony Blair statue is soon to follow. really.