Fear of Islam on Rise in US, Says CAIR Report

compared to the english, my fellow americans are not afraid to openly speak out against muslims in public places. at first i was shocked listening to sanfrancisco types asking me "why there are so many muslims in the UK?" and "its pretty scary".

compared to when i lived in london everyone would whisper and use the "im not racist" line before they started their weak whine about muslims.

i'll give it 5 years before pro-dhimmism kicks in in the US, especially once hillary gets in power, then it's "goodnight vienna" for the USA.

Funny you should say that. "Im not racist" line.
It get's thrown around ALOT here in the US here lately. We might not have the 5 years you predict.

"Fear of Islam on Rise in US"
There is no need to fear that which can be easily eradicated.

Islam is not a race.

Gee am I the first person to say that?

You guys over in the northern hemisphere worry me.

Here in Australia, it is more and more becoming

"Convert or go home"

Cause any more violent demand would be rude...

This increase, said CAIR, was due primarily to the number of cases related to immigration issues such as citizenship and naturalization delays.

I do wish that were really the case. However, given prominent cases, where a former Taliban was allowed a visa to come to Yale, and former Iran president Khatami was allowed into the US even though (unlike Ahmadinejad) he was not coming in as an official of Iran, there is little evidence that this actually is happening. What pisses CAIR off is that its claims of 8m Muslims in the US have been proven hollow, and within that, their membership has been dwindling. They should all be rounded up and either deported (the non citizens, that is) or jailed. And stop entertaining any group complaints, and treat all individual Muslim complaints on a case by case basis.

According to the study, called “Presumption of Guilt,”

Thats not right.

According to the Koran, it should be "Acknowledgment of Guilt"

Folks, if you want to hit Iran, Syria, Sudan, North Korea and other evil states hard, check out disinvestterror.org. I saw it in an article by Dick Morris at www.frontpagemagazine.com. California, Florida, and Ohio, among other states, are passing laws to get their pension funds, which control huge amounts of money, to stop investing in the companies doing business in terrorist nations.

Www.disinvestterror.org has, among other things, a PDF file that shows where the 50 U.S. states are currently doing business with terror and dictatorship. Check it out, find out which of your state's funds are invested with which guilty companies, then call your senators and representatives and tell them about www.disinvestterror.org, the companies, your state's pension funds involved, and that you want your state to divest these funds from the guilty companies until such time as those companies stop supporting the nations that are trying to kill us. Here's where you can easily get your senators' and representatives' phone numbers, both for the state and national levels: Call Congress.

Iran could be shut down by this method taken far enough. Without these companies, Iran couldn't do much with its oil or produce gasoline for its vehicles. And don't let me hear the cynics saying how nothing will work. Every little bit makes a difference, mountains sometimes turn on pebbles, and a straw can sometimes break a camel's back.

Apologies are not necessary for calling a spade a spade, and islam is not a RACE! I never apologise for what I say about islam because veracity does not require apologies. Moral/cultural/religious relativism, multiculturalism, political correctess, or to sum them all up--cultural Marxism is one trap that will never snare me. There are strong, powerful forces at work in the world that will never abandon their outrageous social engineering schemes. They are the most dangerous people alive, and many are professional bureaucrats employed by the insidious, worthless UN.

I hear people say every day that communism is dead, the cold war is over. That is ludicrous! The cold war with the Soviet Union may be over but communism is alive and well. The Democrat party in the US is full of commies---look at Hillary Clinton! Look at our government schools; they have become indoctrination centers to brainwash the future citizens of the NWO, a communist world government headed by the UN. Children are being dumbed down; that's the purpose of the NCLB Act. They must be molded to be good, dumb, pliable, pacifist little drones who hate capitalism and will reject wealth to protect the environment. Exceptionalism is actually discouraged in America's public schools; we wouldn't want to hurt the dummies' feelings and self-esteem, now would we?

The elitist, left-wing, lunatic social engineers do indeed have a plan for the United States and the world, and our own government has been complicit in its implementation for decades. It is rapidly advancing; they missed the 2000 deadline and they're working overtime to catch up.
As they expedite their secret plots and plans to finish remaking the world, full of their own importance and dreams of a multicultural, polyglot utopia, they remain oblivious to their nemesis hiding in plain view, still convinced that oil and water will indeed mix; diversity is strength; multiculturalism and global warming are religions; social justice must be imposed by government; all people want the same things; and all cultures can coexist in peace and harmony if all of them are given preferential rights and benefits except the majority. The brightest minds in the West still can't see the writing on the wall.

How in the hell did Western intelligentsia become so incredibly delusional and bereft of common sense, not to mention their utter ignorance of or contempt for history? They may have had a hand in shaping some of it, but they ignore everything beyond one hundred years ago. It probably wouldn't make much difference, but I sure wish I had listened to the many people who tried to warn me about the NWO years ago, but I laughed at them.
When the masters of the world's destiny finally realize that they have opened Pandora's box, their Draconian salutary measures in favor of the vermin that escaped will probably ignite a simultaneous clash of civilizations and citizen rebellion. Identity politics and political correctness cannot and will not prevail in America and the West.

I think Americans, while staying fully within the law, have to become as hostile as possible to Islam and all its presence and interests in the U.S. Those Muslims who claim to be "moderates" must explicitly and publicly disavow the militarist jihad doctrine, Islamic supremacism, and Sharia law, or else expect to be deemed complicit in them. Unless Muslims sign statements clearly disavowing the totalitarian aspects of the Quran and Hadith, no one should patronize Muslim businesses. No one should hire Muslim employees. No one should cooperate with Muslim immigration to the U.S. Even those Muslims who are completely innocent should be scorned, so long as they subscribe uncritically to the Quran, which includes doctrines murderous and domineering toward non-Muslims. If Muslims don't like being scorned, then let them quit pretending the scornful, murderous and fascistic parts of their belief system don't exist. Let them denounce the terrorist and supremacist Quran verses.

This would not be necessary if such verses were a dead letter among Muslims. But numerous polls of Muslims show that large minorities, and sometimes pluralities or even majorities, of Muslims support eventual Islamic domination.

At this point, I could c.a.i.r.LESS.

Its not fear of Islam, more like revulsion of Islam.

Leon. They were saying that in San Fran? Maybe there is hope for the libs after all.

Always whining and trying to play the victim, seems to be the status Quo for CAIR whose organization can hardly lift a finger when it comes to condemning Islamic Terrorism. Hopefully their incessant whining falls more and more on deaf ears. They still have their in pocket politicians like John Conyers of Michigan and Keith Ellison of Minnesota along with a host of other dhimmis'.

Note that CAIR never once talks about the surahs, and the hadiths that represent the driving force behind the jihadists throughout the world.

Time and time again Imans, and Islamic Clerics remind their flocks that the words, and traditions of Mohammed are pure and can never be changed whether it is path to Mecca, or his path to Medina.

"Fear of Islam on Rise in US."

Good, this shows Americans are beginning to appreciate the dangers of Islam.

The part that is not true in the CAIR report is that there are attacks against Moslems in American society. Indeed, the reverse is true. Americans have been remarkably tolerant. This will likely change.

What is true is that there has been an exponential increase of attacks and attempted attacks by Moslems on Americans. Fort Dix, JFK, Reid shoe bomber, Padilla, English plot to assemble explosives on 14 planes (mostly American bound); Chapel Hill student; Jewish Community Center in Seattle by Naveed Afzal Haq; Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, opens fire on El Al Israel Airlines ticket counter at Los Angeles International Airport, killing two people and wounding four; Oct. 7, 2004: Ahmed Hassan al-Uqaily was arrested in Nashville, Tenn., after attempting to buy weapons from an undercover agent to "go jihad" and target a Jewish school in the Nashville area. Islamberg; Albanian Moslem shoot em ups at shopping malls, plus hundreds of schemes and funding schemes to support domestic and worldwide Moslem jihad murder in the U.S. and elsewhere. The list goes on and on. Yanks will someday reach their boiling point.

This is a war of cultures. The Moslems of CAIR project their own world view that there should be American revenge incidents for all the (Moslem) provocations. After all, this is how CAIR Moslems would behave. It is consistent with Islamic zeitgeist. For is it not attributed to their prophet, Mohammed, that to revenge a drop of blood requires a pint of blood.

I am going to type a message that I will soon send to CAIR via their contact form, if they have one. Otherwise I'll find their DC chapter email address and send it via that. Okay, here goes:

"Dear Ibrahim Hooper, Nihad Awad et al.

Okay, you know what, this game you've been playing is really getting annoying. The methods you use to count the number of anti-Muslim bias complaints is faulty at best, and downright deceptive at worst. And since your organization CAIR has been around for more than 10 years, I don't think your organization is full of idiots who don't know how to tell the difference between the "my green card paperwork took so long" complaint (heck, green card papers take a long time for everyone) and the "mosque got burnt down by Islamophobes" complaint. If the drop in membership, the about-face by Sen. Barbara Boxer, and the growing awareness about your organization are an indication, it looks like people are really getting sick of you.

I really feel sorry for American Muslims who are represented by groups like yours. Most American Muslims are peaceful, and do not support terrorism. Yes, there are a few that do support terrorism, as the recent Pew poll indicated, but on the whole most American Muslims just want to be left alone and want to prosper in this great country. And if the recent article about declining membership is an indication, they really do not want to be associated with or represented by your organization. They can clearly see that CAIR is making things worse for them. And yes, you are. CAIR's ties to a Hamas front group, as well as sugar daddies in Saudi Arabia and the UAE create doubt and suspicion about the whole American Muslim community as a whole. Because of your organization, many Americans think "genuine" moderate Muslims are like unicorns; hard to find in other words. Because of your organizations works, genuine moderates like Zuhdi Jasser and Kamal Nawash will find it harder to gain the trust of Americans.

I predict after the next big terrorist attack (and there will be one, no doubt), there actually will be a backlash. A real backlash. I pray that it never materializes, but if and when it does, you will have blood on your hands just as much as the mobs that will torch mosques and kills American Muslims in the streets. Please just disappear and leave us, Muslim and non-Muslim alike, the hell alone!"

Okay, this looks more like a rough draft. Does anyone want to help in editing and proofreading? And are there any objections to this being sent to CAIR?

Maybe the US fears islam more than the UK because your press don't hide stories about the mussies running round the capital city (outside no.10 no less) claiming we British are opressing them & how sharia will rule the UK
We Brits were warned of this some weeks ago http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1512
& it seems it went ahead ,not that you'd know it from the total lack of press coverage ! Only Googleing " muslim march in london on the 15th june" seems to throw any mention of it up ,Youtube have some videos of the march as well .

Keeping the public questioning going through non-confrontational methods is always fun.

Like bumperstickers that read:

Islam: 'Religion' or the New Communism?

Or:

WILL YOU KILL ME IF I SAY
ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION OF PEACE?

As long as you phrase it as a "?" who can object?

Do I CAIR? Nope.

hhmmm, let me see - they want me either dead, converted or to be a dhimmi - yes, I am an islamophobe.

And I bring up muslim atrocities whenever I get an opening with anyone who wants to hear, and sometimes to those who don't. If they open up the topic - I jump in. too often I get people (I live in lala land - San Francisco bay area) where people are so ill informed about islam while they vehemiantly defend it. All I ask is how can they explain all the violence worldwide while they claim 'religion of peace'. They don't have a clue and all I do is try to make sure to put some doubt in their little gourds about their stance.

Today I have submitted two questions to the Pentagon and basically asking why are they not 'knowing their enemy'? why are they not cracking open a koran and the hadiths. I asked a bit more - but I don't want to go into it here. The Pentagon is an overly political organization, just like Congress, but hey - maybe if we started bombarding them with questions as to why they don't have a clue and don't know our enemy - maybe someone just might do something about that.

There's a video of the march in London here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVYLuiNfp4o

Would the police in the US allow a group to wave signs telling them to "go to hell" as the dhimmi British police did ?

It's certainly not fear, we are just wise to your game, you blew your cover too early.

Coming to get you, ready or not.

Islam is neither a race or a religion, just a ugly cult that has been around for 1400 years.

What is the name (acronym) of the "prominent Saudi 'Infidels', womens', childrens',' civil rights group" in Saudi arabia - and is it tracking the occurrences of hate crimes, bigotry, fear mongering, racism, etc. against ALL non-muslims in Saudi Arabia...?
Oh - there isn't such an organization? What?! Let's have Clinton-Bush-Carter-UN-useful idiots-et al set one up - right away.

Greetings:

Are all the people at CAIR Infidelophobes?

A prominent US Islamic civil rights group has released a study showing a significant increase in the total number of complaints of anti-Muslim bias in the United States between 2004 and 2005.

Those additional complaints coming largely from CAIR.

But I agree.

The increase in complaints is annoying.

Well, there are ladies and men, but there are also ladymen. And here we have something completley new:

I am both "Muslim & Christian"

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/06/17/nutroot-priestess-i-am-both-muslim-and-christian/

Would the police in the US allow a group to wave signs telling them to "go to hell" as the dhimmi British police did ?

Posted by: TrueBrit

Sure we would. Why not. 100,000 illegal Mexicans in Ca. waved their flags, demanded rights, and taunted police.

Fear of Islam on Rise in US

I wonder why that could be...

What, exactly, counts as a 'hate crime'? No Americans have burst into mosques spraying gunfire (meanwhile, in Indonesia and Iraq, Christians have been violently attacked and killed in the name of Islam). The Palestinian Bible Society bookshop in Gaza was firebombed in April - but have any Muslim bookshops in America been firebombed lately? No Muslim women have had their burkhas ripped off. No American converts to Islam have been threatened with instant death by their families and by Christian leaders. No American girls wishing to marry a Muslim guy have been murdered by their families as punishment for 'dishonouring' the family. A bit of graffiti here and there and a few funny looks and some well-founded caution on the part of far-too-few sensible bureaucrats is NOT persecution as I understand it. I think here in Australia exactly ONE mosque got burned in the last six years (nothing comparable has happened since - the "Cronulla riots" don't count because Muslims started it by a long campaign of insults toward, and blatant sexual harassment of, Australian non-Muslim women, and eventually some bluecollar Aussie blokes had had enough, and blew up).

Meanwhile, a few people, like Mr Spencer, or Ayaan Hirsi Ali, have said many perfectly true and correct, well-documented things concerning the content of the Qur'an, the Hadith, the Life of Mohammed (from Muslim sources), and the Sharia as practised in the past and in the present day. That is not hate speech. That is ...telling the truth.

And as ordinary Americans - and Australians - increasingly 'get Islam's number', then there OUGHT to be an increase, not in irrational terror of Muslims, but in rational historically-informed distrust, and cool, implacable, public rejection of Political Islam, a rejection expressed in rational legal and political decisions. Muslims who publicly and sincerely apostasise will be accepted ( it's not about race). Muslims who are prepared to publicly, formally forswear jihad and all those aspects of sharia [e.g. polygamy] that degrade and oppress people and contradict Western civil law, may be permitted to practise prayers, alms and fasting as a purely private religion, and will be accepted (hey, they could join the Unitarians) - but on the clear understanding that should it turn out that they were lying, they will be imprisoned or deported. And any Muslims who are caught pursuing the Grand Program for World Domination - or trying to carry out the nasty parts of sharia as regards women, apostates, etc...should find themselves in jail or deported. In those American states where the death penalty applies, a Muslim who murders an apostate or carries out an honour killing should find himself or herself on death row.

To any Muslim lurkers who harbour the despise-the-Kafir/ Sharia-by-hook-or-by-crook agenda: I am not an American. I am an Australian. I am a woman. I LIKE walking about with my hair and face uncovered in God's beautiful sunlight. I LIKE swimming at the beach with my husband and children, surrounded by girls in bikinis and young men in speedos. I LIKE religious freedom and political freedom (I am a Christian; my brother is an atheist). I LIKE being able to drive a car (in Saudi Arabia, I wouldn't be allowed to). I LIKE being my husband's one and only wife. The more I find out about Sharia the more I hate it. I don't hate YOU, O Sharia-observant Muslim, personally - I pity you, for I see you as a prisoner of evil, and I rejoice over every Muslim apostate, such as Patrick Sookhdeo and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. But I do HATE Sharia, especially dhimmitude, because I see that it is one of the most cruel, obsessive, thoroughgoing systems of oppression that ever poisoned the human mind and crushed the human spirit. The thought of either America or Australia being turned into a hellhole like the Ottoman Empire and the Barbary Pirate states used to be, or like Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan and Pakistan and Iran now are - or Somalia, or Gaza - makes me want to vomit, and it makes me furious. When enough people in positions of authority share that solid, rational historically-informed hatred of the Cult System of Islam, and that fury at the very thought of such a vile System uglifying our lovely lands, then you won't know what's hit you.

What, exactly, counts as a 'hate crime'? No Americans have burst into mosques spraying gunfire (meanwhile, in Indonesia and Iraq, Christians have been violently attacked and killed in the name of Islam). The Palestinian Bible Society bookshop in Gaza was firebombed in April - but have any Muslim bookshops in America been firebombed lately? No Muslim women have had their burkhas ripped off. No American converts to Islam have been threatened with instant death by their families and by Christian leaders. No American girls wishing to marry a Muslim guy have been murdered by their families as punishment for 'dishonouring' the family. A bit of graffiti here and there and a few funny looks and some well-founded caution on the part of far-too-few sensible bureaucrats is NOT persecution as I understand it. I think here in Australia exactly ONE mosque got burned in the last six years (nothing comparable has happened since - the "Cronulla riots" don't count because Muslims started it by a long campaign of insults toward, and blatant sexual harassment of, Australian non-Muslim women, and eventually some bluecollar Aussie blokes had had enough, and blew up).

Meanwhile, a few people, like Mr Spencer, or Ayaan Hirsi Ali, have said many perfectly true and correct, well-documented things concerning the content of the Qur'an, the Hadith, the Life of Mohammed (from Muslim sources), and the Sharia as practised in the past and in the present day. That is not hate speech. That is ...telling the truth.

And as ordinary Americans - and Australians - increasingly 'get Islam's number', then there OUGHT to be an increase, not in irrational terror of Muslims, but in rational historically-informed distrust, and cool, implacable, public rejection of Political Islam, a rejection expressed in rational legal and political decisions. Muslims who publicly and sincerely apostasise will be accepted ( it's not about race). Muslims who are prepared to publicly, formally forswear jihad and all those aspects of sharia [e.g. polygamy] that degrade and oppress people and contradict Western civil law, may be permitted to practise prayers, alms and fasting as a purely private religion, and will be accepted (hey, they could join the Unitarians) - but on the clear understanding that should it turn out that they were lying, they will be imprisoned or deported. And any Muslims who are caught pursuing the Grand Program for World Domination - or trying to carry out the nasty parts of sharia as regards women, apostates, etc...should find themselves in jail or deported. In those American states where the death penalty applies, a Muslim who murders an apostate or carries out an honour killing should find himself or herself on death row.

To any Muslim lurkers who harbour the despise-the-Kafir/ Sharia-by-hook-or-by-crook agenda: I am not an American. I am an Australian. I am a woman. I LIKE walking about with my hair and face uncovered in God's beautiful sunlight. I LIKE swimming at the beach with my husband and children, surrounded by girls in bikinis and young men in speedos. I LIKE religious freedom and political freedom (I am a Christian; my brother is an atheist). I LIKE being able to drive a car (in Saudi Arabia, I wouldn't be allowed to). I LIKE being my husband's one and only wife. The more I find out about Sharia the more I hate it. I don't hate YOU, O Sharia-observant Muslim, personally - I pity you, for I see you as a prisoner of evil, and I rejoice over every Muslim apostate, such as Patrick Sookhdeo and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. But I do HATE Sharia, especially dhimmitude, because I see that it is one of the most cruel, obsessive, thoroughgoing systems of oppression that ever poisoned the human mind and crushed the human spirit. The thought of either America or Australia being turned into a hellhole like the Ottoman Empire and the Barbary Pirate states used to be, or like Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan and Pakistan and Iran now are - or Somalia, or Gaza - makes me want to vomit, and it makes me furious. When enough people in positions of authority share that solid, rational historically-informed hatred of the Cult System of Islam, and that fury at the very thought of such a vile System uglifying our lovely lands, then you won't know what's hit you.

Oops! Sorry about the double posting, people.

"The organization said the increase is due to the lingering impact of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, increased awareness of civil rights issues in the Muslim community and what the group says is a general increase in anti-Muslim sentiment in American society."

The lingering impact of 9/11 is perpetuated and reinforced by the impact of pictures and stories about what Muslims do to each other, and to the rest of us, in their everyday world. If Muslims hadn't continued in their atrocious behaviors towards their fellow man, the impact of 9/11 would have come and gone.

I think it's totally okay to say that blowing up a church in Indonesia is not okay. I'm sure the members of that church would agree with me. I find it abnormal, as well as unacceptable, to kill a daughter who will not mind, especially one who will not marry a total stranger that's twice as old as she is. Now I've had teenagers and there is a temptation to want to get rid of them when they've mouthed off for the umpteenth time, but that is merely a fantasy and usually passes pretty quickly and is completely gone by the time they go off to college. I also think carving up a little girls private parts is horrendous and deserves the death penalty for the perp.

There is also a bit of math that needs to be applied to the idea of why we are so irritated with Muslims. If a Muslim in Indonesia blows up a church or beheads a trio of Christian girls on their way to school, and if the perpetrators use the defense that Allah told them to do it and it's in the Koran, and the Koran is the unchanging word of their "god", and then Muslims the world over say that the Koran is the unchanging word of Allah and that everything in it must be followed, wouldn't it stand to reason that Muslims the world over, who DON'T condemn terrorists acts that were committed by fellow Muslims on the other side of the world, believe the same thing? And since the Koran says it is A-okay to lie in order to further the goals of Islam, we would trust these people, why? And if things were peaceful in countries that did not have a Muslim population but started to become uncomfortable and then unbearable as Muslims moved in and started their campaign of whining, demanding and then bombing, might we not put two and two together and come up with the fact that wherever Muslims proliferate, eventually, the native born population becomes enveloped and then either oppressed by or converted to Islam?

I don't know what irritates me more, the whining or the killing?

TRUEBRIT:

Here in Boston, a band of local dhimmis, including Mayor Menino, clapped there hands as the Islamists shouted "Alallu Akbar!" while a minaret was lowered via a crane on the new mega mosque supported by Saudi hate dollars. A few miles away, a few years ago, Islamic scum hijacked two planes out of Logan airport and repeated the same words as they murdered American citizens in the twin towers and local citizens who were on those flights.

The general propaganda was that Islam will now stand in all its glory amongst the multicultural setting of Boston. To me it was a Trojan horse and out of the mouth of that horse comes proclaimations from groups like CAIR.

The inevitable is that many more Americans will die at the hands of the Islamists because of the blind, spineless politicos who power our nation.
It is not beyond my imagination that that mega mosque, that Trojan horse, will one day be ignited as an inferno, purging Boston and America of the evil that threatens to choke and kill the human experiment of Democracy, Free Speech, Freedom of and from Religion, Equality of the Sexes, Free Thought and the Communion of Human Species.

Western societies will need to sift through the twisted ashes and lifeless, innocent flesh before they acquire the courage and resolve to defend themselves. The enemy taunts within the precious sanctity of our Democratic ideals of which they seek to destroy.

I hope CAIR is right in the fact that our American citizens, born from the blood of the brave, are focusing on who the enemy really is despite the smoke and mirror dog and pony show sponsored by our so called leaders and CAIR.

On my chest is a crescent moon and a star.
Beneath are the words: "You Can't Fool Me"

I heard a Muslim comic put it this way: after 9/11, "hate-crimes" against Muslims went up one-thousand percent -- which puts them fourth behind blacks, Jews, and gays. Hurt, he scratches his head and wonders aloud, "I mean, what do we have to do?"

This is something i've often wondered about Israelis.

What must muslims do to get Israelis really mad. Poor Muslims have tried just about everything except set off a nuke in Isdrael, and yet there are a significamnt number of Israelies that believe that they can have peace with palestininians.