What is infuriating is not that Saudi Arabia, our mortal enemy, is funding Hamas, but that it is not being asked to fund Fatah as well. It is absurd that the American government, that any Infidel government, that any Infidel taxpayers are being forced by their governments anywhere to support Muslims in the style to which they have grown accustomed -- to wit, living on the disguised Jizyah of foreign aid from Infidels. They consider themselves entitled to this even though they remain implacably committed to the Islamic view of Infidels and, certainly in the case of the “Palestinian” Arabs of Fatah, determined to make life hell for the Israelis.
They intend to keep every kind of economic, diplomatic, and military pressure on (including terrorism, which is hardly limited to Hamas but was copyrighted by the “Palestine Authority’s” presiding genius, Yassir Arafat, and continues today with such organizations, having nothing to do with Hamas and everything to do with Fatah, as the redundantly-named Islamic Jihad and the Al-Aksa Martyr’s Brigade).
The Instant Makeover of Fatah as some “moderate” organization sticks in the craw of every educated person who has been following its non-evolution, its permanent commitment to Jihad.
The only thing that distinguishes Fatah from Hamas is that the former group of gangsters are a little more willing to utter a word or two to turn on the tap of the Jizyah, and apparently Abbas’s casper-milquetoast appearance is enough to disguise or make everyone forget his own history as the right-hand man of Yassir Arafat -- his collaborator and assistant in everything. And that is all one needs to know about Mahmoud Abbas, save perhaps for his Holocaust-denying doctoral thesis, and his directly contradicting his smooth assurances to the Americans when he addresses audiences of fellow Arabs and Muslims. That is, Fatah, being more corrupt, and more worldly, is more interested in getting that Jizyah started. And, furthermore, being more worldly, Fatah understands that before going in for the kill, the “Palestinians,” aided by other Arabs and Muslims, must spend another decade or so subjecting Israel to constant pressure, pushing it back, literally, forcing it to give up territory, and control of aquifers and invasion routes, that will make the daily life of Israelis absolute hell, and cause Israel, whose citizens already live daily with a level of danger that no other country must endure, to live in a state of maximum peril from here on.
It is a quarrel over loot. Look at the glee with which the Hamas members vandalized and took things from the symbols of Fatah’s wealth, those villas, belonging to Dahlan, to Abbas, to Arafat himself. They wanted that loot for themselves, they wanted their share.
Everywhere Arabs and Muslims who claim they need support should no longer get it from Infidels, for they take it as if by right, as Jizyah. And the donors begin to give it as if they must pay it or no longer remain in the good graces, as they see it, of those Muslims to whom they give that money. This is psychologically bad, for it encourages Muslim triumphalism, and encourages a state of dhimmitude among the Infidel donors.
On the other hand, if Fatah has to receive money from rich Arabs -- remember that famous Community of Believers, that umma al-islamiyya? -- then it will never be satisfied with the paltry amounts it will be given. It will never be grateful. It will always ask for more, and the rich Arabs, who are incredibly selfish, will be put on the spot, because they are supposed to share their wealth with fellow Muslims. And what will happen if the poor Muslims begin to mutter that the “oil wealth” should be shared with all the world’s Muslims? That isn’t exactly what residents of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the Emirates, Qatar, want to hear, want to have bruited about.
And we, as Infidels, want as much dissension and rancor and envy within the Camp of Islam and Jihad as possible. And we want as much as possible of their discretionary income, in the rich oil states, soaked up supporting Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, and the so-called “Palestinians,” because that is then money that the Saudis and others will not have available to spend on mosques and madrasas and campaigns of Da’wa and local hirelings, all over the Western world.
A Presidential candidate or two must speak out about this. If they do, and if they begin to use that word “Jizyah” and to denounce the payment by our government of what they will call Jizyah, they will go sky-high both in the opinion polls, and in the opinions of the educated, and they will deserve to.
Who is going to speak truthfully about this matter? Who is going to do it first?
"They wanted that loot for themselves, they wanted their share."
...old Mo, the crazed 7th century caravan raider felt exactly the same way....These muslims have a mind like a steel trap, once it is triggered, they have captured the idea....
My prediction:
Things are going well for Infidels right now with the Hamas "Demonstration Project of Life Under Islam" set up in Hamastan. So I predict that King George al-Saud ibn Bush will shortly ruin things by slobbering kisses and money and candi all over the slow jihadists. It's a no-brainer.
I find it absolutely unbelieveable.
Because Mahmoud Abbas had dismissed the current Palestine Government (an empty powerless gesture as long as Hamas control Gaza) and has setup an emergency Government that does not include Hamas, the EU and the USA are falling over themselves to provide money just because Hamas is absent.
What the #!@$~ are they doing this for?
I would not give a cent to any Palestine organisation.
Fund, fund, fund,
'till Islam brings the A-bomb to town....
Just thinking about it is amusing.........US financing the Al Aksa Martyrs Brigade .....brilliant !
There are other Arab billionaire countries aside from Saudi Arabia. Press our other 'staunch allies' like Kuwait, UAE, Bahrein to support Fatah. And what about Islamic Jihad - why isn't anyone helping them? Could Syria divert funds from Iran to them so that while Iran, alongside Saudi Arabia funds Hamas, Syria can fund Islamic Jihad with Iranian money?
Get creative.
Sneakyzionistcrusader
Maybe the US should offer the al Aqsa brigades - actually, now the Yasser Arafat Martyrs Brigades - $25k for every suicide/homicide bomber (satisfied, Mr/Ms Progressive?) that they sent to blow up Hamas - and $5k for every Hamas activist killed in such operations. Except that instead of paying it directly, funnel it into the bank account of Mahmoud Abbas, and make it clear that he'll be the one dispensing those funds. Then watch it all blow up.
Jihad sabiillah!!!!
Sneakyzionistcrusader
Maybe the US should offer the al Aqsa brigades - actually, now the Yasser Arafat Martyrs Brigades - $25k for every suicide/homicide bomber (satisfied, Mr/Ms Progressive?) that they sent to blow up Hamas - and $5k for every Hamas activist killed in such operations. Except that instead of paying it directly, funnel it into the bank account of Mahmoud Abbas, and make it clear that he'll be the one dispensing those funds. Note that it should substitute any aid money that's being contemplated for Hamas.
Then watch it all blow up.
Jihad sabiillah!!!!
Frankly, I'm hoping the hamas "true believers" put to rout those fatah court jesters, plotters, connivers, thieves, rapists, and murderers in Judea and Sumeria as well. (Truth be told, it is fatah that emulates the "prophet" with greater fidelity than hamas, anyway) My reason: to awaken the Israelis, once and for all. The first time you smack a mule upside the head with a tubafor, he might still be a little obstinate. But the 4th or 5th, or 10th time you smack him, you might finally get his attention.
Frankly, I'm hoping the hamas "true believers" put to rout those fatah court jesters, plotters, connivers, thieves, rapists, and murderers in Judea and Sumeria as well. (Truth be told, it is fatah that emulates the "prophet" with greater fidelity than hamas, anyway) My reason: to awaken the Israelis, once and for all. The first time you smack a mule upside the head with a tubafor, he might still be a little obstinate. But the 4th or 5th, or 10th time you smack him, you might finally get his attention.
OT
Re: "The Trouble With Islam" May 25, 2007. A Youtube video from Pat Condell, a U.K. comic.
This comment is a follow up to my comment of May 27 concerning the respnse (Chortle article) of the Berkeley CA "Peace and Justice Commission" and Condell's follow up video (Am I a racist?) about the Berkeley response.
I sent an email to the Berkeley "Peace and Justice Commission" protesting what I saw as an attack against freedom of speech (I live in Berkeley) by Commissioner Elliot Cohen who, among other commissioners, had received a link to the video from another commissioner (Jonathan Wornick). I was objecting to the following sentence in the Chortle article: "‘People should not be allowed to spew racist propaganda without others being able to respond,’ Cohen said. ‘It’s not about free speech - it’s hate speech.’"
The Chortle article about the Berkeley reaction I was using, had the "should not be allowed" sentence out of context. In the "should not be allowed" phrase Cohen was not referring to Condell's speech. This is clear from an article in the Berkeley Daily Planet of May 15, 2007. Also, in his response to me, Cohen said: "as a private citizen one can say what they please". However, Cohen put "Discussion of the use of e-mail system by commissioners to spread racist propaganda" on the commission agenda and he said (BDP June 1, 2007) that "We shouldn't be spreading racism through the city computers." An attempt to curtail Wornicks's speech? I think so!
In the Daily Planet article he also said: "the proper place for such a discussion would be to
agenda it at the commission level, where commissioners could question Wornick on his intention in presenting this." Cohen said that he was not allowed to respond to the email because of California's "open meeting" law. This explains some of the "should not be allowed" sentence.
Cohen, in his response to my email, also stated that "...it continues to be my opinion that a commissioner should not be permitted to use city resources to spread this type of information..." and "but when one is acting in the capacity as a Representative of the city I believe they owe respect to the members of our community and must control their conduct somewhat." I replied that I disagreed; freedom of speech is the priority.
In the (BDP May 15, 2007) article, "racism" is being given a whole new meaning and
there's plenty of other outrages. I thought that Daniel Pipes might have done
some research on where this new usage of the word "racism" is coming from.
Sure enough, he has an article Anti-Muslim Racism?
"It is absurd that the American government, that any Infidel government, that any Infidel taxpayers are being forced by their governments anywhere to support Muslims in the style to which they have grown accustomed -- to wit, living on the disguised Jizyah of foreign aid from Infidels. They consider themselves entitled to this even though they remain implacably committed to the Islamic view of Infidels"
Historically Muslims have depended on the financial support of infidels for their campaigns of expansion. And even in times of peace they were dependent on the wealth expropriated from, and on the continuing economic exploitation of, conquered non-Muslim populations. For a historical perspective see
http://islamicexpansionanddecline.blogspot.com/2007/04/chapter-11-parasitic-civilization.html
Hugh said
Let's just say they're not all rushing to grab the microphone first, when the topic is jihad or Islam.
What I find ironic and darkly comedic about the Hamas/Fatah brouhaha is how the West pushed for democratic elections in "Palestine", because everyone knows that democracy necessarily leads to peace and moderation. And as soon as Hamas was elected, all those lofty ideals went to the wayside, and suddenly the disgraced and defeated Fatah was being forced on the "Palestinian" people in the most undemocratic way. Hamas had, and still has, the support of the vast majority of the "Palestinians", but our Administration is playing "Let's Pretend the "Palestinians" are a Group of Moderates Who Can be Reasoned With". And they have their Abbas action figure that they dress up and bend into whatever pose they want, and pull his string and make him repeat whatever phrases they choose. That is, when his switch is set to English mode. When he speaks in Arabic to the Muslim home crowd, he's free to choose his own words and to speak his own mind. And one can look up what he says in those situations.
"Let's Pretend".
I read in the paper that members in Fatahland are already planning how to smuggle monies into Hamastan, Gaza (to their brethren).
Meanwhile Condi gave an address the other day -- a reporter asked her about the Pali "two-state" "solution" -- Hamastan and Fatahland, etc. She then claimed that Abbas rules over all of the "Palestinians." Yeah, sure, Condi...(Can the State Dept. keep their stories straight? One moment it's all about "democracy" and self-determination for terrorists -- the next, it's all about Fatah Overlords ruling over those who didn't elect them.) Something's messed up here.
Guess Condi prefers terrorist dictators...as opposed to the duly-elected terrorist variety. Now there's a distinction worth noting!
Aren't Hamas & Fatah, as well as Sunni & Shi'ite ALL Islamic sects? What's wrong with getting along with each other? I've heard countless times that Islam is the religion of peace.
Actions speak louder than words, and the actions of Sunni, Shi'ite, Hamas and Fatah all convey that Islam is anything but a peaceful religion.
Your Prophet, Mohammed (P.B.U.H.), was sent by your God, Allah. However, by putting the majority of your affection and devotion to a Messenger of your God, your devotion and attention has drifted away from Who it is supposed to be directed towards.