"The chaos over the past two days has raised fears that the type of car bomb attacks that have become commonplace in Iraq has now reached European shores."
"Police Arrest 2 More in Connection With London, Scotland Terror Incidents," from the Associated Press:
GLASGOW, Scotland — Three terrorist suspects were in police custody Sunday — and a fourth man under guard in hospital — following attacks that saw a flaming jeep crash into a Scottish airport and two car bomb plots foiled in central London.
Scotland Yard said two people had been arrested in Cheshire, a county in northern England, in a joint swoop by specialist officers from London and Birmingham.
[...]
The chaos over the past two days has raised fears that the type of car bomb attacks that have become commonplace in Iraq has now reached European shores. Late Saturday, Britain raised its security alert level to critical — the highest possible level, indicating terror attacks may be imminent.
[...]
British Broadcasting Corp. television reported, without citing sources, that the man was wearing a suicide belt and that police had found propane gas cylinders in the Glasgow Jeep.
Rae would not say whether the device found on the suspect was a suicide belt, and made no mention of gas cylinders. However, British security officials said evidence pointed toward the Glasgow attack being a suicide mission.
London police said the latest arrests were in connection with both attacks, but did not elaborate. Officials declined to say if those arrested were men or women, or whether either suspect was a figure seen running from one of the explosive laden cars dumped in London.
[...]
Police wrestled the driver and a passenger, both described by witnesses as South Asian, to the ground, arresting them and taking one to the hospital. Witnesses said one of the men was engulfed in flames and spoke "gibberish" as an official used a fire extinguisher to douse the fire.
Glasgow police spokeswoman Elisa Dunn said five bystanders were treated for injuries, and one was hospitalized with a leg injury. Scottish airline authorities said around 2,500 passengers had been evacuated from the airport.
A report at CNN includes this account:
Witness Jackie Kennedy told the BBC that after the crash, a passenger in the Jeep doused himself with fuel from a can and ignited it, then got out of the vehicle. Airport police used fire extinguishers on him, and he fell to the ground, she said.
"I realized that this was obviously deliberately done -- the fact that the guy was in flames and seemed to be enjoying himself, even smiling," Kennedy told the BBC.
According to another eye witness (see Sky news interview) he was shouting "Allah! Allah!" during the attack.
The inference is that he was shoulding gibbering when he was on fire, or that the police/ambulance drivers interpreted his later words as gibberish as it was something they didnt understand.
In any case its blatently obvious to all and sundry that the 'soldiers of peace' are at it again...
"I realized that this was obviously deliberately done -- the fact that the guy was in flames and seemed to be enjoying himself, even smiling," Kennedy told the BBC.
Of course he was smiling, the sicko was surrounded by the bowels of hell on his way to meet Allah no less sexually stimulated by the violence and pain in true sadistic fashion..."Ah, it doesn't get any better than this!" True Islamic masturbation.
It's too bad none of it was caught on camera -- even a cameraphone from a passer-by. I for one would have liked to see some idiot in the act of purging himself from the gene pool. Another Darwin Award contestant. Maybe this is going to become the new American Idol, with its frequent recurrence.
"I realized that this was obviously deliberately done -- the fact that the guy was in flames and seemed to be enjoying himself, even smiling," Kennedy told the BBC.
You know I'm jaded when that doesn't even surprise me.
And my site is still down. Probably victim of a DOS attack from Leftofascists. Working on it....
FROM Agence-France Presse:
LONDON (AFP) - London Mayor Ken Livingstone called on Britons Saturday not to demonize Muslims after a double car bomb plot was foiled in the capital, amid fears of a Islamist terror threat.
At the same time he criticized Britain over its ties with Saudi Arabia, which he said had fuelled intolerance in the past through its Wahhabist form of Islam, creating a "major problem."
"In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims," he told BBC Radio.
"They have played a good and active and growing role in creating a multi-cultural society," he added.
WHAT in the world is wrong with London's Mayor? "Muslims are LESS likely to support the use of violence...than non-Muslims?" Huh? Can anybody explain what he means?
My sentiments exactly secretsam, when "Witnesses said one of the men was engulfed in flames and spoke "gibberish" as an official used a fire extinguisher to douse the fire", he was calling to his evil moon god "allah, allah, allah". Sounds like gibberish to me too. He must have been high on dope, smiling while burning, calling to his moon god. They should check his blood leve of heroine. "Soldiers of peace", like RoP, my arse. Idiots. The "best people" are idiots.
@lilgerman: Appeasement is the order of the day. This is why I'm giving serious consideration to running for political office within the next 5-10 years. I can't take this nonsense any longer.
Foe, I hope you can fix your problem.
Dude, I'll vote for you...heck, I'll share the ticket.
@interestinconundrum: Thx, me too. Unfortunately, I've run out of options, none of my usual tricks are fixing the problem and my web host is not even responding to my messages for assistance.
I'll blame Al Qaeda. :D
@lilgerman: If more people decide to act for real change, the West still has a chance. One thing is for certain -- maintaining the status quo is not working.
Foehammer,
Thanks for the update.
Hope you get your site up soon. Are you affected by the floods at all?
The usual response to this:
"Britain made me do it".
Yes, there's enough going on to feel jaded about.
Wosrt part is that the native populations don't count at all.
Posted by: lilgerman
WHAT in the world is wrong with London's Mayor? "Muslims are LESS likely to support the use of violence...than non-Muslims?" Huh? Can anybody explain what he means?
- Livingstone epitomizes everything which is wrong with Britain. His comments are part & parcel of the far-left mindset, of which he is both a self-professed champion of multiculturalism, whilst also a massive pro-Islam supporter.
It's like he's both CAIR embodied, but also an unflinching multiculturalist champion and London Mayor, at the same time.
Muslims love the guy, they can't get enough of him.
There are going to be elections soon. We'll hopefully vote the idiot out. But somehow even though he's hated by so many, he always seems to get re-sodding-elected >_
Foehammer,
The folks working so hard to maintain the status quo aren't limiting themselves to not responding to the real threat. They are actively sabotaging the efforts of others to effect change. The case of those unfortunate Border Patrol agents who languish in federal prison springs to mind.
Lead, follow or get out of the way.
Hmm. Campaign slogan?
OT, but jihad related.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/281525/over_400_radical_antius_islamic_centers.html
Remember this, everyone?
http://www.fugly.com/videos/4043/Madrid_Train_Bombs_Explodin.html
How quickly we forget.
As the socalled plot unfolds it is clearer who was behind this. The French lost the bid to host the Olympics, so they use extreme scare tactics using Asian agents to discredit the British and scare away potential investors and spectators. This is solid, LEMONDE reported this yesterday.
@Rogster: The thing that really confuses and kinda scares me is his blatant assertion of something which I can't see possibly being true.
Can he dissemble with such ease and without fear of correction?
On the other hand, maybe he's right...a carefully crafted poll question could lead to the production of such a "fact".
Foehammer; The likes of g.w.chuckles the bush, ted kennedy and ken livingston have got to go. They will be the the demise of our Western culture. Good luck on your politcal venture. We need Men (like diabolcal Spencer and cunning Fitsgerald) with backbone.
it has started again in England.............
islamo-fascism is showing it true colors of wanton murdering of innocents........
it is coming to America, Canada, Australia...... and the other peaceful religious nations......
islamo-fascism is coming to a town near you.........
are you willing to live like the Israeleis do..... wondering if your children will make it home from school unharmed and alive....... if you and your family got out to dinner or shopping will you and your return safely home.....
are you prepared........
are you armed..........
are you ready.........
what are you going to do to remain free.......
speak up speak out.......... the results were just seen in Washington, DC, with the defeat of the failed Senate amnesty bill.......
God bless America, Israle, England, Canada, Australia, Darfur and our fighting forces across the
The Texican.
God Family America Freedom the only choice at any cost.
I've tracked down the source of my problem to a site that appears to be a DJ/music site in the United Kingdom. Looking into it...
progressive, why can't it be moslem hot-heads that are the bombers? Why not,progressive?
@progressive: Government agents don't typically light themselves on fire. The pay isn't nearly good enough.
It is sad but true... Billions of dollars and pounds will be spent on security to protect ourselves from these Muslim savages.If it wasn't for Islam, the money could be better spent such as infrastructure, social programs, ect. Thanks t Muslim immigration we must sacrifice some programs and infrastructure to pay for security. Not to mention longer waits at the airports, longer lineups at freeway border crossings. Every Muslim must be profiled! It is time to start spending the monies for security to spend on infrastructure such as internment camps for radical muslims and their families and mass deportations of them too.
Ken Livingstone's comments are offensive to non-Muslims. To slander people he identifies as "non-Muslim" as being more violent and more criminally-inclined than Muslims would, in a sane world, be classified as hate speech under the laws that have crept in. Why doesn't anyone sue him for this and use the enemy's weapons against him?
As for these attacks, it's obvious that anyone with proven links to or sympathies for extremist groups should be deported immediately. It would not be a difficult law to pass, would pull those flirting with extremism back into line and remove a cancer from the Muslim community in the UK.
Awwwwwww progressive you have ruined it!!
Just when I was starting to get annoyed with you the penny dropped!!
However a truer test of your wit and courage would be to go to some islamic websites(provided, of course, that you are not an islamofascist yourself) and try the same effluent stirring there.
However be warned!! The abuse you will cop there will not only be verbal. They will hunt you down via yr ISP (and no service typekey or otherwise is safe enough) and they will physically threaten both you and yr family and may even attempt to do so if you persist. Such is their normal way.
I hope against hope that somewhere there are still men in the UK. If this wakes just 3% of the Brits up to the danger they all face it might be enough to turn this mess around. The reports of civilians taking action could be proof the lion is finally wakening. I realize the Muslims may be looking for an over reaction but I seem to remember an old saying about being careful what you wish for.
"a passenger in the Jeep doused himself with fuel from a can and ignited it, then got out of the vehicle."
Neat trick!
"the guy was in flames and seemed to be enjoying himself, even smiling,"
He did expect applause after all he no doubt spent many days coming up with this half wit plan of his...
encore!!! encore!!!
greatcometof1577,
It is common for attacking islamonazis to hop themselves up on drugs. He may not have felt any pain. The erratic driving may also have been drug induced.
Just read the CBC NEWS report on this incident. No mention of Islam in the article! Why?
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/06/30/glasgow-airport.html
The Resistance,
You already know the answer. The reporters are scared for themselves and their families. If I had a dollar for every Muslim who threatened me, I would own a much faster computer.
The most bizarre part of the story is the terrorist smiling after setting himself on fire. Only someone demon possessed would do that. It brings to mind, Zarqawi who took 52 minutes to die after being hit with 2 500 lb. bombs.
And....Progressive is screwing with us. He must be a lonely, tormented soul with nothing better to do.
Just deport them all. It is war and it's time to get serious. The west has shown such tolerance but all the Muslims really understand is power. Destroy Mecca, Medina and the Dome of the Rock,and they'll shut up for another 50 years . . . out of respect and to follow the laws of jihad.
Bonniea,
Not lonely or tormented just working for the other side.
They should do this at Burning Man.. LOL ? I mean they may even get some cheers...
Puck Figslam!!
And to "progressive" [as in npr and pbs and so on..] who wrote this inane drivel below...
The French lost the bid to host the Olympics, so they use extreme scare tactics using Asian agents to discredit the British and scare away potential investors and spectators. This is solid, LEMONDE reported this yesterday.
Posted by: progressive
Yes, zose eevil perneecious perfeediouz Frogz.. zey are soo rezponzeeble for zese zings.. zey also bombed ze trains in Londonistan and Madreed..
Lay off the French, boy! You hate them because THEY had the SENSE to vote for Sarkozy!!!!
A sizable number of Free French Citoyens of Mahghrebin descent voted for Sarko and even for Le Pen BECAUSE they KNOW the EVIL of islam and they wish to live as FREE CITOYENS de La Grande [et belle :-0] République!
They wish to curb further pigslamist inroads into Europe. They wish to see the Rule of Law in their freely chosen New Homeland France. They are True Patriots and as such they are MOST WELCOME by most of us Europeans and I am certain by virtually every Freedom-loving Frenchman and Woman.
They are true Europeans because they respect their autochtonous Co-citizens.. They get along very well with the Native French who - I can tell you from first-hand experience - are VERY EASY to get along with. They are VERY KIND and hospitable "peuple".
One thing I can guarantee you is.. it is NOT ze Frogz who are rezponzables foor zees ignoble attack on innocent British Civilians.
And you know this, progressive-boy!
Maybe you may want to blame it on zee eeevil Mozzad next?
Venn all elze failz.. blame zee Jooz...
bitch... you islamist bitch..
Ronin
You know in some strange way this story gives me hope. Not all is lost!
greatcometof1577,
The trouble with Muslims is they never plan things out. They like to expose the hand they are playing and in the end, that will bring their downfall.
This is too good not to share...
photoshop of Islamic Rage Boy®
http://www.snappedshot.com/archives/976-Islamic-Rage-Boy-Parody-Roundup.html
The UN estimates that there are 3.3 billion people living in cities and that this number will jump to 5.0 billion in twelve years. The majority of these people are dependent on public aid for basic life needs.
The US has $70 trillion in unfunded liabilities, rising by $3 trillion per year per Senator Coburn, M.D. Aggregate home equity is around $10 trillion. High income Americans already pay over half of their income to the government. The majority of American tax receipts are spent on social programs; somewhere near $12,000 per household vs. ~$5,000 per household spent on national defense. The average family of four has nearly one million dollars of commitments strapped around their necks.
The difference between 2007 and other periods in history is that Globalization allows high-income individuals to change Citizenship. Bush owns land in Paraguay, Clinton owns land in the Dominican Republic, Gates owns land in Belize, Bloomberg owns land in the Bahamas. If the electorate targets their billions, they can become Citizens of the Caribbean. Its really nice down there if you are of independent means. Just wait until the Democratic base penetrates the elite’s ability to contain a call for wealth taxes. Kennedy likes income taxes because he doesn’t make much money. Watch him squirm when the people target his father’s estate.
In short, pop.
Das Boot was just on. The character of man is most easily observed in an absence of resources. The sick side of me is looking forward to it. The guys who can't figure out a car bomb lose.
pez - "High income Americans already pay over half of their income to the government.
That's not what Warren Buffet says and he should know.
Buffett said he makes $46 million a year in income and is only taxed at a 17.7 percent rate on his federal income taxes. By contrast, those who work for him, and make considerably less, pay on average about 32.9 percent in taxes - with the highest rate being 39.7 percent.
To emphasize his point, Buffett offered $1 million to the audience member who could show that one of the nation's wealthiest individuals pays a higher tax rate than one of their subordinates.
"I'm willing to bet anyone in this room $1 million that those rates are less than the secretary has to pay," said Buffett.
Feralcat;
The majority of Buffet’s income is generated by Capital Gains, taxed at 15%. Old money, collecting interest. The poorer Senators are worth tens of millions of dollars which, at a conservative rate of return of 10%, make millions annually, taxed at 15%. The well-heeded Senators make tens of millions annually in interest, taxed at 15%.
The big income producer pays ~38% in Federal taxes. In Maine, everything over ~$24k is taxed at 8%. Sales tax at 6%. Property tax maybe $8k a year. A friend pays $26k per year for a 2000 s.f. house. Gas taxes. The loaf of bread at the grocery store includes tax. $3 in tax for a pack of smokes. Liquor licenses. Traffic impact fees. School impact fees. Park fees. Pulling a building permit can cost $70k. $25 to get into a National Park. The honest person pulling the wagon is well over 50%.
The system is designed to protect old money. If targeted (and it eventually will be like it is in France today) the wealth will leave.
Buffet is a good man and I agree with him. He lives in Omaha in a small house he bought decades ago. He drives a Chrysler. His license plate says ‘Thrifty’. Things are broke.
I'm going to Europe on the 8th.. Germany, Austria, Poland. I'm not thrilled about the transportation part. On the way back we have to stop at Heathrow. Maybe I'll wear a burqua and get waved to the front of the line.
Ayatollah Fadlullah (Shiite, Lebanon) says Muslims should immigrate to the West - "land of Allah" - in order to both acquire "positions of strength" against the West, and to have means to overthrow the distorters of Islam in their homelands. I thought so.
http://english.bayynat.org.lb/islamicinsights/7.htm
"Emigration to acquire scientific, economic, political and security positions of strength is emigration in the way of Allah and emigration to Allah and His Messenger."
Again, why doesn't this material impact on people's brains? Most Westerners - and 100% of the Bush crime family government - deny that which Muslims readily admit.
Today I learned to appreciate the proverb:
'I wouldn't piss on the guy if he was on fire...'
And the moran of the story is:
When a jihad-ape is on fire, don't piss on them: Let 'em burn!
To English speakers, Arabic can sound like "gibberish" or "baby talk" -- the repeated, simple syllables, "allallahuallah" etc.
It's only the bulging eyes and frothing lips that give them away.
Foehammer, if you run, and if I get my citizenship by then, I'll support you. In the meantime, I recall someone proposing that we vote in an amendment de-recognizing Islam as a 'religion' in the sense of receiving 1st Amendment protections under the law. Maybe we should make it a State proposition in a state where it has a good chance of passing, and in the process, force a conversation on whether Islam deserves the same protections in the US that religions enjoy.
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Whereas Religion is defined as an institution dedicated to improving social conscience and promoting individual and societal spiritual growth in a way that is harmless to others not participating in or practicing the same;
Whereas the United States of America was founded on the ideals of individual rights, including the individual right to practice one’s religion of choice, or no religion, and that there would be no compulsion of religion, nor state sanctioned religion, nor a “religious test” for participation in the body politic;
Whereas Islam includes a complete political and social structure, encompassed by its religious law, Sharia, that supersedes any civil law and that Islam mandates that no secular or democratic institutions are to equal (let alone supersede) Islamic law;
Whereas Islam preaches that it and it alone is the true religion and that Islam should in time before the Last Days dominate the world and supplant all other religions and democratic institutions;
Whereas Saudi Arabia, the spiritual home of Islam does not permit the practice of any other religion on its soil and even “moderate” Muslims states such as Turkey, Bangladesh, Malaysia and Indonesia actively suppress other religions;
Whereas Islam includes as its basic tenet the spread of the faith by any and all means necessary, including violent conquest of non-believers, and demands of its followers that wherever possible they implement jihad (spiritual struggle that includes, but is not limited to, military and other smaller-scale types of violence, from terrorism acts to relatively lower scale acts of intimidation) against those unwilling to either convert or submit to Islam, including by deception and subversion of existing institutions, supplemented by campaigns of demographic conquest by means of immigration and using their women as ‘baby factories’;
Whereas on 9/11/2001 19 Muslim hijackers acting in the name of Islam killed 3,000 Americans, and a number of terrorist plots to kill Americans have been foiled after 911 and numerous other acts of terrorism have been directed at the American people around the world;
Whereas representatives of Islam around the world including Osama Bin Laden (architect of 9/11), the government of Iran including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, HAMAS, Hezbollah, and other Islamic groups have declared jihad (war) on America, and regularly declare that America should cease to exist;
Whereas many of the above-mentioned representatives of Islam have also declared jihad (war) on many other regions of the world (including the Philippines, Southeast Asia, India, the Balkans, Spain and significant parts of Africa) which together and individually constitute ongoing partners of America in its geopolitical and economic interconnection with the rest of the world;
Whereas there is no recognized basis in Islamic theology for any opposition to proponents of expansionist Islam, including the imperatives of jihad and of the superiority of Sharia over all non-Muslim systems of law;
Therefore: Islam is not a religion (as defined above), but a political ideology more akin to Fascism and fundamentally in opposition to the ideals of freedom as described in the United States Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.
Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:
Article I
The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.
The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion.
Article II
As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world [and as it would be imprudent given the nature and scope of the threat presented by these representatives of Islam—whom we have rationally determined cannot be sufficiently distinguished by those representatives of Islam who seem harmless—, Islam is hereby declared an ideology at odds with the principles underlying the very existence of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.
Article III
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.
The preaching of Islam in mosques, schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment in the context of a discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing struggle against democratic and other non-Islamic values.
The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress.
Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.
Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.
Whereas citizenship of the United States precludes the possibility of anybody having primary loyalty to any other country;
Whereas all Muslims are required by Islam to have their primary loyalty to Islam and then to any other entity, including any country such as the United States;
Whereas all Muslims are required by Islam to support any Islamic entity against any non-Islamic entity, such as the United States;
Whereas it is impossible to distinguish those Muslims who may endorse the above requirements of loyalty to Islam from those who don't;
Therefore: any citizen of the United States who embraces Islam automatically loses his citizenship of the United States, just as any citizen of the United States who adapts the citizenship of another country and declares his primary loyalty to that country would automatically lose the same.
Article IV
Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.
Footnotes: [To be filled in...]
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The government and MSM are still refusing, point blank, to link these attacks in any way with any group of people.
What they are doing, during every speech, is telling the wider population that no religion has any imperative within for these attacks, as does no community.
Again, within the powers that be, there is complete ignorance, wilfull ignorance, and I imagine fear of the truth. They are utterly refusing to identify any enemy, or even to admit that there is one.
Gordon Brown managed to utter the words "al-qaeda inspired", or somesuch, which is the closest we have come. The authorities as a whole simply refuse to acknowledge there is a threat, never mind make any effort to stand up to it.
After all my years of seeing Islamic terrorism and demands, this morning was the first time I have ever felt frightened.
“This weekend’s bomb attacks signal a major escalation in the war being waged on us by Islamic terrorists,” Lord Stevens, terrorism adviser to Britain’s new prime minister, Gordon Brown, said in a column in Sunday’s News of the World newspaper.
-- from "MSNBC New Service" (AP?)
"Islamic Terrorists" indeed! Let's hope that this signals a turn in the psychological self-censoring that goes on in the minds of western authorities regarding the threat we face across the world today.
corrections:
Today I learned to appreciate the proverb:
'I wouldn't piss on the guy if he was on fire...'
And the moral of the story is:
When a jihad-ape is on fire, don't piss on him: Let him burn!
Sorry, forgot to post the picture:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/07/01/nutroots-well-report-it-when-it-happens/
About Ken: he's an odious little shit.
About the muslims: they're revolting.
Satan currently has a hold on the world.
Livingtone and Halloway are a symptom of the disease, doing everything they can to enforce their strangelhold.
WE, as we are...are the disease.
We need to get back to our Judeo/Christain roots.
God, love the Jews as the brothers of Christ.
Gordon Brown is quotes as saying the attackers aren't representing any particular religion. Gordon, what is it about "ALLAH, ALLAH!!" you don't get???
Gordon Brown's new foreign secretary is David Milband, who has little Mideast experience, though I read he's probably going to be Mr. PC Liberal Niceguy Fool, and that he's Jewish. Great, the guy sounds like a Jewish Jerk, just what Britain doesn't need.
"I realized that this was obviously deliberately done -- the fact that the guy was in flames and seemed to be enjoying himself, even smiling,"
Sounds to me like they were prepared for the after-life.
supercargo:
"Ayatollah Fadlullah (Shiite, Lebanon) says Muslims should immigrate to the West - "land of Allah" - in order to both acquire "positions of strength" against the West, and to have means to overthrow the distorters of Islam in their homelands."
Mohammad Hussein Fadlullah is pure slime. He's a former "spiritual leader" of Hezbollah, and is widely believed to issued the fatwa sanctioning the 1983 bombing of the US Marine Corps base in Beirut, killing 241 people.
He currently heads up the Al Mabarrat Association, an international charity front organisation that raises money for Hezbollah.
...and I imagine those eurabian anti-Semites just cannot understand why these events came home to roost instead of occurring in the little satan or the great satan...
With regard to Ken Livingstone's claim that
"In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims."
I don't know where he gets his information from. Has there really been a survey of public attitudes to the use of violence to achieve political ends?
Nobody asked for my opinion.
However, whether or not Livingstone is correct in what he says, the following quote from the Sunday Telegraph is far more relevant to any discussion of muslim terrorism.
"The extent to which young Muslims are becoming radicalised, and the speed at which it can happen, have caused alarm. MI5 is aware of 1,700 terrorist suspects active in Britain. Peter Clarke, the Metropolitan Police deputy assistant commissioner, spoke before the London attacks of a "very, very concerning intelligence picture".
supercargo - that was a very interesting link.
On the matter of emigration to non-Muslim lands, Ayatollah Fadlullah (Shiite, Lebanon) says the following things:
“We must deal with this matter like other matters in which we face challenges – through our Islamic perspective that does not yield any Islamic position in deference to a non-Islamic position, or any Islamic stance in a vital and sensitive Islamic matter in deference to another non-Islamic matter.”….
“there is no excuse for a man to take a materialistic opportunity if it is to lead to loss of a spiritual opportunity.”…..
“It is narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (p.) said, in his guiding advice to 'Ali (as): 'There is no living outside the Islamic land after emigration.' And it narrated that Imam Ar-Rida (as) said, in his answers to questions: 'And Allah prohibited at-ta'arrub ba'dal hijrah (for fear of) abandoning the religion and abandoning support for the Prophets and the Imams, and what this would entail in terms of corruption and the abolition of the rights of everyone due to the limited (knowledge and religious adherence) of the dweller in the Bedouin areas. Therefore, if a man has come to know all the religion, it is not permitted for him to live among people of ignorance because it is not guaranteed that he would not depart from knowledge and join the people of ignorance (in their situation) and (even) go too the people of ignorance (in their situation) and (even) go too far in this'.”….
“However, the pressing question for us, Muslims, to answer is:
“How shall we face our scientific, cultural and economic needs on which our growth and our intellectual, scientific and domestic advancement depend, if they are not available in the Muslim countries but available only in non-Muslim countries such as Western or non-Islamic Eastern countries, as is actually the case in this period of our life? The scientific and economic level attained by infidel countries has obliged the whole of the Islamic world to travel to them, and reside in them – even if only temporarily. ….
“Emigration to acquire scientific, economic, political and security positions of strength is emigration in the way of Allah and emigration to Allah and His Messenger. ….
“The Muslim community that emigrates to Western countries that are distant from Islam must work towards establishing an Islamic society that is open to Islamic ideas, spirituality and culture so as to preserve for the Muslims their Islam, and to create Islamic atmospheres for the coming generation to help them to grow in an open, Islamic environment. This is the way to achieve balance between a non-Islamic reality and an Islamic society, and is the only way that justifies their staying in these countries from the Islamic legal point…"..
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First, one cannot help but note the irony that the kafirs are called the “people of ignorance” yet they are the ones who have all the scientific and intellectual and economic advancements which he admits are missing altogether in dar al Islam!
It is also interesting to note, however, that according to Islamic law ITSELF, one cannot emigrate to western countries if one is blocked there from establishing an Islamic society, because that would be emigrating for material reasons only and not emigrating in the path of Allah. This is something we need to keep in mind if we want to deter further immigration of Muslims to the west. We need to make it difficult for them to reproduce their Islamic societies here by putting up roadblocks – to their dress, to praying 5 times/day in the workplace, to building mosques and so on. Then by Islamic law – they would have no excuse for coming here. In fact Islamic law would actually prohibit them from coming here. That is understanding things on their own terms.
I see no problem with doing this. Because Muslims are too stupid to understand that it is islam which accounts for the backwardness of their own societies (while calling us the “people of ignorance!), they cannot be allowed to recreate that very backwardness in our own societies or it will eventually lead to the very same lack of scientific and intellectual and economic circumstances that they are escaping from.
"With regard to Ken Livingstone's claim that
"In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims."
I don't know where he gets his information from."
From his arse. All you have to do is wander around any of our major cities to get the real picture; you'll not find Red Kens Islamic Utopia. You may, however, drive past his house and notice him having an affair with Karen Armstrong...
Something I would add is that the true moderate Muslims or "cultural" Muslims who really wish to assimilate into western society would not be affected by these restrictions in dress, mosques, prayer, availability of Islamic education and so on. The only ones who would be affected would be the people we do not want here anyway - the ones who feel it is their obligation to recreate an Islamic society here. Since they are the "true" Muslims, they would also be the ones who would feel themselves obligated by Islamic law to migrate back to dar al-Islam should it be made impossible for them to work towards their goal. So its a win win for everyone. The ones who object to such a policy are precisely the ones we don't want here and those who do not object to such a policy are the ones we don't mind being here.
Asian's again...Those darn Asian's are causing trouble all over the place. If you are going to deport anyone, deport Asians. Interesting that every news report is refering to jihadists, as Asians. Even a witness described the perpetrators as 'Asians'. (That's provided the news source did not alter her word's). Asian extreemists, Asian radicals. Asian terrorists. We are losing the word's Islam, jihad, jihadi, muslim ect, and replacing it with the word 'Asian's'. This is clearly an attempt at 'cover-up, but at who's orders? Describing terrorists as Asians, is not limited to Britain and this particular event, It is being used increasingly by MSM and other news outlet's. What inquiring minds want to know is, WHO told them to use that description, and why do they go along with it? This is word trickery, word magick. The way to get over being tricked is to get over being tricked. The 'trick' of refering to terrorists as Islamic radicals, extreemists, ect was wearing out, so a new direction was created...Asians!!!. The perpetrators of this particular news fraud are acting in concert and internationally.
'The Asians did it', is a blatant attempt to lead the public away from the truth.
So when you hear the word 'Asian' used, you know there is an attempt being made to 'trick' you.
I am confident that poster's here are already on to this, so I am preaching to the choir. I hope...of course if 'Progressive' read's this, it may mean something to him/her...now isn't that just too cute?
I don't know about you lot, but that big pimple on Ken's face, is more annoying than his pro-Islam stance :P
btw, may I suggest a solution to the problem (Old one, but still funny) - http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5949/groundzeroocean9cx.jpg
Asian's again...Those darn Asian's are causing trouble all over the place. If you are going to deport anyone, deport Asians. Interesting that every news report is refering to jihadists, as Asians. Even a witness described the perpetrators as 'Asians'. (That's provided the news source did not alter her word's). Asian extreemists, Asian radicals. Asian terrorists. We are losing the word's Islam, jihad, jihadi, muslim ect, and replacing it with the word 'Asian's'. This is clearly an attempt at 'cover-up, but at who's orders? Describing terrorists as Asians, is not limited to Britain and this particular event, It is being used increasingly by MSM and other news outlet's. What inquiring minds want to know is, WHO told them to use that description, and why do they go along with it? This is word trickery, word magick. The way to get over being tricked is to get over being tricked. The 'trick' of refering to terrorists as Islamic radicals, extreemists, ect was wearing out, so a new direction was created...Asians!!!. The perpetrators of this particular news fraud are acting in concert and internationally.
'The Asians did it', is a blatant attempt to lead the public away from the truth.
So when you hear the word 'Asian' used, you know there is an attempt being made to 'trick' you.
I am confident that poster's here are already on to this, so I am preaching to the choir. I hope...of course if 'Progressive' read's this, it may mean something to him/her...now isn't that just too cute?
I think they call them Asian, because it is still uncertain as to their religion, and all they can do, is describe them based upon what they look like, which is in this case, Asian.
Rogster...you are probably right, except that to refer to these people as Asians is a relativly new, terminology. Why is that suddenly being used, and why were the usual descriptions dropped, and Asian, picked up? It is unreal that the only people bombing Britain are muslims, but they cant call them that, because they might cast a long shadow on a religion.
They should call them muslims or jihadists first, then if they find out the bombers were actually unhappy Wiccans, an apology can be made to Islam.
Otherwise it is not just to avoid a rush to judgement, the judgement has already been made. Everyone but the authorities and the news outlets seem to know who is doing these act's, and they are doing their best to keep the truth under wraps, but you and I know better, dont we?
Progressive, your post here was hilarious.
You HAVE to give us your club dates.
You must have a wonderful stand-up act.
duh_swami: "Why is that suddenly being used, and why were the usual descriptions dropped, and Asian, picked up?"
I wondered about that too, why sudden aka 'name change' from Islamic to "Asian"? There are some 2 billion-plus real Asians who are not Muslims, so a gross injustice here to all those peaceful people from Asia. I smell Saudi MONEY behind this.
du swami sez:
'Even a witness described the perpetrators as 'Asians'- Those darn Asian's are causing trouble all over the place. If you are going to deport anyone, deport Asians.'
Indeed.
This MSM-BS-reporting/cover-up is truly vile and pernicious. It is for this very reason that Sikh's and other Asians have been attacked by morons who think 'all Asians' are muslims.
Intolerable.
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/07/01/mein-kampf-sales-soar-in-turkey/
Addition for the record; don't forget Social Security (13%) and Medicare (3%). Throw in a good percentage of your medical insurance for spice.
Foehammer,
Sorry so late on posting but I would vote for you in a heartbeat. Don't wait 5 or 10 years. Do it now! Start at the national level so we here at JW and your blog can get involved. Run for office!
4 down, 2 million to go.
And I do mean go.
To Ronin - "civilians taking action...the lion is finally wakening"...Let us hope so.
St George of merrie England! St Andrew of Scotland! St David of Wales! St Patrick of Ireland, and blessed St Bridget! All ye saints, martyrs and confessors of England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland, arise, and pray! O Maker of the Universe, in this desperate hour, by the blood of the Crucified One, hear and answer the prayers of all the saints of Britain, and Our Lady of Walsingham, hear, and save the land of my forefathers.
Stir up the true Christians to lovingly embrace and defend our beloved Jewish Elder Brothers and Sisters; to defend the synagogues alongside the churches.
Give courage and hope and renewal of faith and clarity of sight to all the native folk of the Isles and to all immigrants of good will who would not be Muslim; give new wisdom to all non-Muslims in authority; shatter the lies of Mohammed into a thousand pieces, and break the evil spells of the Saracen traitors. Let all their bombs fail to explode. Let all their plots be exposed. Let all the terror soldiers and preachers of treason and mass murder be captured and brought to justice.
Awaken the British lion and the bloodred dragon of Gwent, symbol of Wales. Loose John Bull and the Bulldog. Send forth Arthur, and Alfred the Great. Send them forth , that all powers of the darkness may be bound and cast out, and fear and confusion be suddenly ended, and dhimmitude cease. Let the Mohammedans apostasise - or flee.
Let the old, un-PC Mummer's plays, with St George and the Saracens, be played in the public squares. Let Mahomet be burned in effigy on every common in the land, and in every public square and park. Let Voltaire's Mahomet: or, Fanaticism, be played in London, and Edinburgh, and in Welsh in Cardiff and in Irish in Dublin. Let the marches begin, in every village and suburb, and the protests outside every mosque in Britain. Let them be marked not by casual violence but by good order and by loud telling of the truth about Mohammed and his false god and the cruelty and oppression of sharia. Let the bagpipers play, and the harpers, and let the bards sing loudly, and the churchbells ring out, and the shofar blow, and the watch-fires be lit. People of Britain, at this eleventh hour, take back your homelands!
People of Britain, at this eleventh hour, take back your homelands!
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 2, 2007 1:51 AM
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how many will listen before it is to late.......