Another bombing in a Christian neighborhood. "Sad al-Bouchrieh takes its turn recovering from bomb," by Nour Samaha for the Daily Star:
Residents and storeowners in Sad al-Bouchrieh appeared numb on Tuesday as they began the increasingly familiar routine of clearing away debris as quickly as possible in order to resume their normal lives after Monday night's bomb blast. The bomb, the fourth in Beirut since May 20, exploded near the Abdel Massih Center next to Mar Takla Church, wounding 13 and causing severe damage to dozens of businesses in the Christian neighborhood.
Military Prosecutor Jean Fahd filed charges on Tuesday against the unknown perpetrators of the explosion, adding that a guilty verdict could lead to a death sentence. He reassigned the case to Military Investigative Magistrate Rasheed Mezher. Judicial reports said no one has been arrested in connection with the explosion.
Dozens of residents, business owners, families and friends picked up brooms and other tools in an effort to clean up and open shop again. Only the shell of the bus - behind which the bomb had been placed - remained at the site. The rest of the vehicle has been swept away, along with smashed cars and other debris from the commercial center. Every window in the six-story center was shattered.
"Everybody rushed to help as soon as it was clear to come through," said Carlos Mbarak, whose sister owns a beauty parlor in the row of shops on the ground floor of the Abdel Massih Center. "There is nothing else to do but that.
"This is not the first time [an explosion] happened here, and it is not the first time it has happened in Lebanon, so the only thing we can do is continue with our normal lives," he said.
Nonetheless, he added, "we are just fed up with it all."
Wow, how timely...their Dday minus 33.
They have an affinity for numerology.
lol
There is one solution to preventing these types of attacks: keep the Muslims out of the non-Muslim areas. Don't let them place their bombs. It's too late for Lebanon; it's not too late for us. Let us learn from their mistakes. Let us prevent their tragedies from happening here.
lol @ special_guest
Isn't it sad and depressing and infuriating that your ideas of walling of Muslims will NEVER happen? All you can do is say things on the interent and that's about it. You have no where else to voice such opinions because you don't have the courage to.
If it is a war you wanted, how can you expect the other side not to fire back? If someone invaded your house and killed your family right in front of your eyes, will you not fight back? Or will you think, "oh it's okay, they're here to liberate us."
Watch "V for Vendetta".
Glad I could bring some humor to your twisted, bitter world, ~JehanZeb~.
So, the bombed bus, the Mar Takla Church, the dozens of businesses, and the 13 wounded passersby invaded some Muslim's home and killed his family, and so that's why he set off this bomb? Okay, I could see an anthropomorphic bus somehow entering this poor Muslims house and somehow killing his family, but a church and a dozen businesses? How did a church even fit inside his house?
And it's the fourth in a month. I mean, dang! This poor Muslim keeps getting new families, and more infidels keep coming into his house and killing them. You'd think he'd get a lock or something.
Thanks, you have made me LOL too, with your bizarre and illogical attempts to justify an attack on random unarmed citizens targeted purely based on their religion.
Watch "Dumb and Dumber".
~JehanZeb~ is another "moderate Muslim" who comes here, not to commiserate and figure out how to get the "few extremists" to stop "twisting" and "hijacking" the Religion of Peace, but instead comes here to convince us infidels that the jihadists are justified in their attacks.
Is anyone buying the supposition that this was a "defensive" attack by Muslims who had seen their families killed before their eyes in their own homes?
You're right, ~JehanZeb~, you know me too well. I have no courage. In fact, all of us infidels have no courage against you big strong jihadists. Our law officers, and especially our soldiers are real pushovers, not a bit of courage amongst the lot. You jihadists might as well tell us where you're at and what the next plan is. You have nothing to worry about, we're too scared to do anything about it. C'mon.
Learn about recent events in Lebanon here.
"so the only thing we can do is continue with our normal lives," he said.....)
...you could arm yourselves and fight back.....
Ban Muslim Immigration...you do not want these people in your neighborhood....
Does anyone else here find it amusing that Jihad Zeb accuses us of doing to him the exact same things he defends doing against us? While he's pointing one finger at us he points three back at himself.
Special Guest,
I read your response to J.Z. and almost fell out of my chair. The "Watch Dumb and Dumber" comment was beautiful!! I'm still laughing. : )
People, you just don't understand JehanZeb's point of view. The creation of these Christian churches and businesses in what is obviously Muslim land constitutes "a war that we wanted" and "an invasion of their houses". The refusal to comply with Sharia's injunctions against the selling of musical recordings and alchohol is "killing their families right before their eyes". So these bombings are in full compliance with the injunction that only "defensive" jihad is justified -- these Muslims are simply "fighting back" against "persecution".
"The creation of these Christian churches and businesses in what is obviously Muslim land ""
...perhaps, but Muslim lands were Christians lands before Islam began....
You know how the Israelis CRUSHED their Arab antagonists in the 1967 Arab-Israeli War?
LOL, hey JZ, where was "Allah?" "He" certainly deserted you folks, didn't "he?" LOL!
Know why you people lost? Because there is No "Allah." And, you will lose again. The only true God, the Judeo-Christian God, doesn't favor Barbarians.
And, hey, how 'bout those Honor Killings all Islamic females have to fear? Such a lovely barbarian custom!
JehanZed, "All you can do is say things on the interent and that's about it. You have no where else to voice such opinions because you don't have the courage to."
I'm on my second tour of duty in one of your crapistans... If you're so badass, get some of your satan shrine, err mosque buddies to fund you and get you to jihad camp & the battle field. Perhaps we'll meet up... mohammed rasool al shaitan. Molon Labe!!!
If someone invaded your house and killed your family right in front of your eyes, will you not fight back?
So the embassy employees invaded someones house?, the victims of the Khobar Towers, the WTC (twice), the embassy workers in Tanzania and Kenya? the passengers in London and Madrid? The Jewish Center workers in Seattle? the christian schoolgirls in indonesia? All these people invaded a muslims house and killed his family? (notice, for arguments sake, I left out the sailors on the USS Cole.)
Weekly Jihad Report
May 26 - Jun. 01 Jihad Attacks: 60
Dead Bodies: 476
Critically Injured: 667
...none of those killed by Muslims were attacking Muslims and most of those killed were Muslims killed by Muslims....
..once again, who are the invaders?.....
“...perhaps, but Muslim lands were Christians lands before Islam began....”
I don’t think you understand. Lebanon is an example for us all.
In Lebanon, just a few years back, certain Christian areas were never touched by Muslims. Now, for the first time in history, mosques are being erected in Christian areas for the first time in history. Towns that used to be Christian have been overrun by Muslims. For hundreds of towns, it is always the same pattern:
1. Muslim immigrants are brought in to work for ambitious Christian owned companies
2. The Muslims bring their families to live in the towns; the Christians in this delusional “plural” era accept
3. The Muslims start declaring (Hitler style) this is Allah’s land and the Christians have no right to own any part of it
4. Muslims start misbehaving and becoming intolerable; disrespecting the law and traditions of the land
5. Christians who cannot fathom the illogicality of Muslims, who cannot tolerate the Muslims’ backward and barbaric culture, and who have no external support to fight back, emigrate to other countries
6. Christian houses and land that are left behind, or whose owners have been killed are occupied by Muslim squatters who then illegally claim title to the land.
7. Those same Muslims who driven Christians out of their homes, and laid claim to their homes decry Israel as an occupier
8. 100 years later the town becomes a desert, and only a few Christians remain, a relic of the past, a relic of history and culture of the land that are now replaced by an artificial inferior history and culture (Arab, Arabic, Arab glory (or lack thereof,) tribal governance, and the Quran), a relic of what once was.
9. 30 years later, a holy war (aka civil war) erupts between Christians of Lebanon and the Muslims of all the Islamic world, and all traces of Christians and Christianity in the town are wiped out
Does this pattern sound familiar? We can thank multiculturalism. It’s is repeating in the West as we speak, less the dramatic holy war.
http://cedarland.org/
OT
Important if true, DEBKA.com is reporting 50,000 Turkish troops have advanced on Kirdish positions in Northern Iraq.
http://debka.com/headline.php?hid=4284
I forgot to mention the part where the Muslims have 10 to 20 kids each, attempting to outnumber and overpower the native Christian population.
Lebanon is no longer a good vacation destination. Muslim's wrecked that. Cant blame Jew's or Christians. It could return to it's former tourist glory if all the trouble maker's moved out. It's a strange phenomena, when muslim's take over, tourism come's to a halt, or slow's to a trickle.
Haha...Zeb is in love with JW/DW, he just cant stay away. He keep's proving that he is a schizophrenic, verbal jihadist. That come's from reading Mohammad's power book, The Quran. He claim's he is full of love, then attacks 'special guest' with this crud:
JehanZed, "All you can do is say things on the interent and that's about it. You have no where else to voice such opinions because you don't have the courage to."
I guess no one, certainly not Allah, told Zeb that love and attack cant co-exist in the same timespace at the same time.
Besides that 'Zeb the Preposterous', the internet is the perfect forum to express yourself and possibly influence millions. And what do you know of 'courage'? Are you courageous Zeb? Tell us about your last three act's of courage. Or even one. Oh, but why would you need courage when Allah is protecting you...silly question, I withdraw it...
ofcourse,
"I don’t think you understand. Lebanon is an example for us all.
In Lebanon, just a few years back, certain Christian areas were never touched by Muslims. Now, for the first time in history, mosques are being erected in Christian areas for the first time in history. Towns that used to be Christian have been overrun by Muslims. For hundreds of towns, it is always the same pattern:
1. Muslim immigrants are brought in to work for ambitious Christian owned companies
2. The Muslims bring their families to live in the towns; the Christians in this delusional “plural” era accept
3. The Muslims start declaring (Hitler style) this is Allah’s land and the Christians have no right to own any part of it
4. Muslims start misbehaving and becoming intolerable; disrespecting the law and traditions of the land
5. Christians who cannot fathom the illogicality of Muslims, who cannot tolerate the Muslims’ backward and barbaric culture, and who have no external support to fight back, emigrate to other countries
6. Christian houses and land that are left behind, or whose owners have been killed are occupied by Muslim squatters who then illegally claim title to the land.
7. Those same Muslims who driven Christians out of their homes, and laid claim to their homes decry Israel as an occupier
8. 100 years later the town becomes a desert, and only a few Christians remain, a relic of the past, a relic of history and culture of the land that are now replaced by an artificial inferior history and culture (Arab, Arabic, Arab glory (or lack thereof,) tribal governance, and the Quran), a relic of what once was.
9. 30 years later, a holy war (aka civil war) erupts between Christians of Lebanon and the Muslims of all the Islamic world, and all traces of Christians and Christianity in the town are wiped out
Does this pattern sound familiar? We can thank multiculturalism. It’s is repeating in the West as we speak, less the dramatic holy war."
Simply put, the Muslims are simply are doing as what their god and founder told them to do. This does not suprise me at all.
Special Guest,
I read your response to J.Z. and almost fell out of my chair. The "Watch Dumb and Dumber" comment was beautiful!! I'm still laughing. : )
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at June 6, 2007 6:04 AM
I agree, touche.
~JehanZeb~ writes:
"Isn't it sad and depressing and infuriating that your ideas of walling of Muslims will NEVER happen? All you can do is say things on the interent and that's about it. You have no where else to voice such opinions because you don't have the courage to."
I can't speak for special_guest, but I voice a
similar opinion all the time, and while it used to
be that I'd be ignored or disparaged, more and more people of all political stripes are coming around. Lots more heads nod in agreement than did
a few years ago,
Like the pedophile you worship, you're a hypocrite. You claim to be offended that people
here attribute things to you that you know are
false, and yet, even though I'm quite sure you
don't know special guest, you impugn his courage.
You, the pedophile Mohammad, and his sock puppet
"Allah"! What a combination...
The islamists come here and accuse us of cowardice? Oh come on now, not here and there, not once in awhile but always, the islamists when confronted hide. They try to cover up what they really believe they deliberately avoid answering questions about their tenets/intentions. Why? Because for the most part they are cowards, afraid to say what they mean what they believe, how come? What’s up guys I thought that alla was all powerful, so why the deception if that is the truth? Look at what they do, they plant bombs and then run away! Run away little islamist hurry home and hide under the mat before the big bad westerner spots you. If they really believed in their ideology then they would speak out they would be unafraid to shout from the rooftops all that they profess. But no, they don’t do that do they, perhaps deep down inside they know that it is all a bunch of hooey and perhaps they don’t want us to know that they know. Islamists are not very creative, whatever they accuse others of you can darn well bet they are guilty of so ignore the bomb throwers or talk as if they don’t even exist when they come here. They really, really hate being ignored, they can’t stand it if you refuse to submit to their dominatrix personalities. It’s easy and fun, try it you’ll like it!
~JehanZeb~
On 9-11 you and your ilk declared war on me, my country, my family and my religion.
As the Muhammadans increase in number they behave just as the fiend and Messianic Fake Muhammad did when he was kicked out of Mecca and assembled a terrorist army in Medina.
Same intolerance, same hate, same violence, same depravity...
just a different century.
"root_cause" - loved your "sock puppet" image of "Allah"!
Update
Turkish invasion of N.Iraq: Fox news is reporting conflicting reports on whether something has happened.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,278558,00.html
I hope Lebanon does not descend into another civil war. That country has suffered to much in the last three decades.
If unfortunately the country does descend into a civil war due to incidents like this bombing, then ll decent people in th world should help Lebanon's non-Muslim citizens rescue their country from the murderers who have destroyed it.
Darcy --
In response to your above post, you will find this link of particular interest concerning the History of Israel and Palestine; plus it includes a map of the Middle East which gives a clear picture of the past/present:
http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
Take care!
JehaZeb shows us the two faces of Islam. The Palistian camps are happy to play human shields to the Jihadist. The jidhadists rob banks and attack Christian communities from the Palistian camps. When the Lebonese try to cast out the viper, the Palistians play the victim and line up for the cameras.
JehaZeb it is completly immoral to justify in any way this attack on peaceful civians. Youre up-bringing and religious study has falled you. You are without logic and common humanity.
Ruebacca --
Good point! And in my opinion, the quickest way to find out why someone would say something "completely immoral", as you pointed out in your post, is to learn where they stand with the Jews & Israel.
You might want to read what Zeb said yesterday, as he really revealed himself when he made this remark last night on another thread in response to my question concerning whether or not he supported Israel.
Zeb stated:
"1. I do not support the Israeli government for the oppression and brutal occupation of the Palestinian people. However, I do NOT believe that Israel should be wiped off the map nor do I believe the Jews should be killed off. I believe if a Palestinian state is carved out, we would see a huge and significant difference in the region."
[you can read the entire exchange between Zeb and I towards the bottom of this thread, "Iran dismisses U.S concern over held Iranian-Americans"]
Last nights answer explains why Zeb made the above comment concerning this conflict: "If it is a war you wanted, how can you expect the other side not to fire back? If someone invaded your house and killed your family right in front of your eyes, will you not fight back? Or will you think, "oh it's okay, they're here to liberate us.""
Zeb is grossly misinformed about Israel, and he is LYING in his comments about the Jews in relation to the Palestinians. LYING!!
Please read my reply to Zeb on the other thread in defense of the Jews/Israel here:
"Zeb,
To further highlight my point that the Jews DID NOT " brutally occupy the Palestinians", and that this statement is in fact a bold-faced LIE, I have chosen to post a segment from the link that I've provided -- in case you don't have time to research this link. I think it's time that someone educate YOU on the subject:
Excerpt from link:
"Now for some facts about "occupation." Firstly, the Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians lost Gaza, the West Bank and Golan Heights (respectively) by participating in a failed attempt at genocide against the Children of Israel. Had Israel lost this 1967 defensive war, the Arab-Palestinians and their Arab allies would have raped, butchered or driven out every Israeli they could get their hands on and gobbled up all of Israel. Now, 35+ years later and despite the fact that Israel won a war BROUGHT UPON THEM, the Israelis are still willing to allow the Arab-Palestinians to have a state on much of the West Bank and Gaza if only they will stop sending their suicide/homicide bombers into the heart of Israel! (Talk about misplaced compassion!)
From 1948 to 1967, Egypt ruled Gaza, Syria ruled the Golan Heights, while Jordan ruled the West Bank. They could have set up independent Arab-Palestinian states in any or all of those territories, but they didn't even consider it. Instead, in 1967 they used the Golan Heights, Gaza and the West bank to launch a war that was unambiguously aimed at destroying Israel, which is how Israel came into possession of those territories in the first place.""
***here's the link I'm referencing: http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
"Isn't it sad and depressing and infuriating that your ideas of walling of Muslims will NEVER happen? All you can do is say things on the interent and that's about it. You have no where else to voice such opinions because you don't have the courage to."
Oh come on now J.Z., aren't you really the one that wants to round all of us infidels up and make us either 1) be just like ya',2) pay the tax so you can continue with a 1/2 day work week or 3) remove us from the planet? And don't say you don't believe in that because it's right in your book, in case you haven't read it. But I'm sure you have, cuz' the taqiyya's in there too, and you spew it beautifully. You can't have it both ways, sweetheart.
No, I'm too busy working the business that I've built, little ole' infidel woman that I am, to even think about coralling your people in some sort of wall, although since you guys can't seem to help yourselves when it comes to strappin' on a bomb and blowing everyone in the vicinity to smithereens, thanks for the idea. No, we Americans will continue to believe in freedom for all people and work against you to try and make sure that they have it.
We here are committed to grassroots gossiping. Yep, that's right, we're telling everyone about your plans and you can't imagine how many people are believing us and getting involved, warning their friends, family and neighbors about what you are up to. Could that possibly be why you sense a little hostility from those of us that have your number and the rest of the people in your club who live here and enjoy the fruits of freedom but don't have the courtesy to stand up and say anything against Muslim terrorist tactics? Maybe some here would say it's because the average Muslim is scared to death of the Imams, or the ummah or whatever and they're afraid if they speak they will be destroyed like the infidels. Well if that is so, that's just one more reason why Islam should be dismantled and kicked out of every free nation and those that you guys took over illegally, in your quest for world domination.
BTW, you still haven't answered my questions from yesterday or this morning's post at 6:04 am where I ran them again for you. Look who's callin' people here a coward.
Champ...this is from my friend Smoothstone's site, very pro-Israeli, anti-Islamic, and a wealth of information. Maybe Zeb should read this...
www.smoothstone.blogspot.com
The excellent article below, by Lawrence Auster, lays bare the historical facts of the matter: Israel has never taken land from the Palestinians, and the Palestinians have no legal claim to Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) or Gaza.
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There is a myth hanging over all discussion of the Palestinian problem: the myth that this land was "Arab" land taken from its native inhabitants by invading Jews. Whatever may be the correct solution to the problems of the Middle East, let's get a few things straight:
* As a strictly legal matter, the Jews didn't take Palestine from the Arabs; they took it from the British, who exercised sovereign authority in Palestine under a League of Nations mandate for thirty years prior to Israel's declaration of independence in 1948. And the British don't want it back.
* If you consider the British illegitimate usurpers, fine. In that case, this territory is not Arab land but Turkish land, a province of the Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years until the British wrested it from them during the Great War in 1917. And the Turks don't want it back.
* If you look back earlier in history than the Ottoman Turks, who took over Palestine over in 1517, you find it under the sovereignty of the yet another empire not indigenous to Palestine: the Mamluks, who were Turkish and Circassian slave-soldiers headquartered in Egypt. And the Mamluks don't even exist any more, so they can't want it back.
So, going back 800 years, there's no particularly clear chain of title that makes Israel's title to the land inferior to that of any of the previous owners. Who were, continuing backward:
* The Mamluks, already mentioned, who in 1250 took Palestine over from:
* The Ayyubi dynasty, the descendants of Saladin, the Kurdish Muslim leader who in 1187 took Jerusalem and most of Palestine from:
* The European Christian Crusaders, who in 1099 conquered Palestine from:
* The Seljuk Turks, who ruled Palestine in the name of:
* The Abbasid Caliphate of Baghdad, which in 750 took over the sovereignty of the entire Near East from:
* The Umayyad Caliphate of Damascus, which in 661 inherited control of the Islamic lands from:
* The Arabs of Arabia, who in the first flush of Islamic expansion conquered Palestine in 638 from:
* The Byzantines, who (nice people—perhaps it should go to them?) didn't conquer the Levant, but, upon the division of the Roman Empire in 395, inherited Palestine from:
* The Romans, who in 63 B.C. took it over from:
* The last Jewish kingdom, which during the Maccabean rebellion from 168 to 140 B.C. won control of the land from:
* The Hellenistic Greeks, who under Alexander the Great in 333 B.C. conquered the Near East from:
* The Persian empire, which under Cyrus the Great in 639 B.C. freed Jerusalem and Judah from:
* The Babylonian empire, which under Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C. took Jerusalem and Judah from:
* The Jews, meaning the people of the Kingdom of Judah, who, in their earlier incarnation as the Israelites, seized the land in the 12th and 13th centuries B.C. from:
* The Canaanites, who had inhabited the land for thousands of years before they were dispossessed by the Israelites.
As the foregoing suggests, any Arab claim to sovereignty based on inherited historical control will not stand up.
Thanks for presenting more Truth, duh_swami! Awesome! Go Israel!!!
I went to that website and read the most recent blog that is SO right on!!
Here is what I read:
"International law makes a clear distinction between land "occupied" during a war of aggression and land taken as a result of a defensive war. On June 5, 1967, Jordan attacked Israel. Suburbs of Tel Aviv were shelled by artillery. Israel's largest military airfield, Ramat David, was shelled. Jordanian warplanes attacked the central Israeli towns of Netanya and Kfar Saba. Thousands of mortar shells rained down on western Jerusalem, targeting Israel's parliament building and the prime minister's office. Twenty Israelis died in these attacks; 1,000 were wounded; 900 buildings were damaged. Only after coming under fire and sustaining casualties did the Israeli military respond against Jordanian forces in the West Bank."
And I will catalog the other information you've included in your post -- thanks again!
Zeb -- get your facts straight.
duh_swami
If you don't mind could you list your references for your chronology of middle Eastern history?
I have read several sources that substantiate your posting. I am always looking to expand my knowledge base regarding our friends that listen to talking bushed and rocks.
Champ...Smoothstone wont let you down. His site is loaded with useful information. We have been internet friend's for a couple of year's now. He is a stand up kind of guy...amd he knows's what side of the bread the butter is on. Muslims's cant figure out why their bread sticks to the table, Allah never told them to keep their butter up.
have a good night...
Getrealnow4...I retrieved this chronology from
www.Smoothstone.blogspot.com
Go there to the current article's and archives. There is more info there than you can read in one day...and you can comment on articles...
duh_swami
Thanks for the link. It seems to be very extensive. I have added it to my bookmarks toolbar.
JehanZeb,
My brother was murdered by someone for money just this January. I talked about what I'd do to the guys if they got caught, but haven't yet...but I can displace that anger pretty easily.
Wanna come to my house?