A new arrival in the Hate Mail Bag:
My name is William from Detroit, Michigan. Just a note: The influx of Iraqi immigrants that will be arriving in the United States are not going to be Muslim extremists. In fact the vast majority of them will be Christian Iraqis also known as Chaldeans. I hope that you will help educate your pathetic readers of this fact. Chaldeans are Catholic, and speak both Arabic (official language of Iraq), and Chaldean or "Aramaic" (the language of Christ) {see the film Passion of the Christ} the dialogue alternates between Latin and Aramaic. Please put your Israeli flags away and pick up a history book once in awhile. Its amazing what you might learn. You are scum.Best,
will
And my response:
Hi William. Thanks for writing. In fact, we have chronicled the plight of Chaldean Catholics in Iraq for quite some time, in articles including these:http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/016846.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012786.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/016692.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004224.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/014303.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016749.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004935.php
Actually, I am quite familiar with the plight of Eastern Catholics in the Middle East, being one myself.
Unfortunately, however, it doesn't appear to be true that most of the Iraqi refugees will be Chaldeans or Christians at all, although they are the group most in need.
This story says mosques in Southern California will help resettle them -- unlikely if they're Christians:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3233636
And this story says the government will not favor Christians over Muslims in refugee applications, so this will probably result in a refugee influx that roughly corresponds to the demographics of Iraq, i.e., over 90 percent Muslim.
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/12/11/iraqi_exodus_could_test_bush_policy/
Of course, many of these will not be "extremists." But with no screening of any kind, how can anyone be sure that none will be?
Cordially
Robert Spencer
I loved the "put down your Israeli flag" comment. These people always have a hatred for Israel, Fox and Republicans. Didnt take Will long to expose his distain for Israel.
Hey Will, put down your Pali flag and get a clue. :-)
What a great answer...a teacher...please run for office.
Whoop Whoop! CAIR Alert!
Nicely riposted, Mr Spencer ;)
Seems to me that Will is the one who should pick up a history book - and actually read it.
Excellent response, Robert.
What I find both amusing and annoying simultaneously (not to mention problematic) is an attitude of these anti-Jihadwatch writers (it strikes me as being arrogant.) Thus, the hate-monger writes: "The influx of Iraqi immigrants that will be arriving in the United States are not going to be Muslim extremists." As I laugh, okkk, and that's based on what exactly? Willy's godling-like abilities to not only know the future but dictate it? Yeah, okkk.."The influx...that will be arriving...are not going to be ...extremists." Sieg Heil! ja wohl!
What an attitude! There is no room for doubt, there is no room for speculation. It's all known, including the future, all spelt out with certainty, because it's written by "Will." It's not phrased in terms such as, "It is my understanding that..." or "I believe it has been said that..." Oh, no. that would leave room for doubt. And these people have absolutely no doubts.
That's just another reason why I personally say: "Stop Muslim immigration NOW." We really don't need more ignorant, arrogant, vicious, self-appointed Overlords. Tell 'em to shove off and take their "religion" with them!
Spencer shoots... he scores!
Does Will mention whether or not these Iraqi Chaldeans will be coming to America via Mexico City, Nuevo Laredo, or Tiajuana as well?
"You are scum. Best, will"
These hate-mailers seem to be internally conflicted.
Unbelievable, I had a good friend who was Chaldean and I'd rather have people more like her. She worked her butt off in this country (3 jobs to pay for it)to go to college and will end up being a productive member of this country. I also know, that during the Saddam regime, members of her family had to already escape due to persecution. Unfortunately, now they are suffering persecution from Islamic jihadists now. Anyway, yes I hope people do pick their history books and a Qu'ran. Time for the public to finally wake up and understand what we are dealing with.
I doubt very much he's called William!
I also live near detroit,yes there is an over abudant amount of chaldeans here and some of them are good law abiding hard working people,but as usual there are the bad ones, the one's that hate the u.s. though they live here , drive around a little, get out of dearborn and go to the lower rent area's check it out around there ,it's filled with hatred towards americans ,just go into a party store or gas station and you get the overwhelming feeling of hate .if they want to be understood then assimilate a little better , learn our language ,and speak it ,why dont they fly the american flag? because they want it to be like it is at home! remember they have arrested some of these people in ther mosques! so put down your IDIOT flag and pick up an American one !!!
"Please put your Israeli flags away and pick up a history book once in awhile. Its amazing what you might learn. You are scum."
By William
His last sentences are most defining, and defeating as well as the rest of his ignorant comments.
As we all know on Jihadwatch; Detroit,Michigan has one of the largest Muslim populations in the US. Jihadwatch has also discussed many times the plight of the Coptic Christians in Egypt who persecuted just as the Chaldean Christians are in Iraq.
William; Though I try to to refrain from calling names usually---You sir are the ignorant, and pathetic fool!
Oh and Will, you are welcome to come on here and debate the issues anytime you like. We promise to put away our Israeli flags. :-)
Boy, cleaning out that mailbag reminds me of gutting fish after catching them as a kid in Ohio... :)
I would like to make an important sidenote here, and hope that Robert could put up some postings on it.
One week ago, I translated a speech that a syrian in exile gave before the Knesset a few days ago. In his speech, he listed the many, many ethnic groups that make up Syria, under the yoke of those bastard baathists. He claims in his speech that those untold minorities actually make up the majority in Syria. In his speech, he pleaded for Ohlmert to NOT try to make peace with the likes of Assad, as this would give Assad free hand to start exterminating minorities. Robert, have you had postings on the demographic make up of Syria?
Here is an excerpt from his speech:
"The traditional view for the uninitiated is that Syria is a homogenous, purely islamic land. Nothing could be further from the truth: Syria is a nation built out of a number of separate nations out of the past, which makes it a multicultural and multi-religious state, comprised of arabs, kurds, druse, alewits, assyrier, armenians, jews and aramaer. Each one of these cultures in Syria has its own language, religion, traditions, folklore and distinctly identifiable culture. Each one of these groups within today’s Syria have their own way of life and must be protected under a democratic system with a constitution designed to respect the rights of all groups in Syria – a constitution with the separation of religion and state firmly anchored in the document. For this reason it is ridiculous to call Syria at this time a system democratic when there are no free and fair elections and there is no system of parliamentary rule based on rule of the majority. Since the 1958, there have been no free and fair elections in Syria, which means that Syria is in no way a democracy.
We do not wish that these diverse minorities, which actually, when bundled together, comprise an astounding 65% or 2/3 of Syrian society, should have to be under the yoke of a pan-Arabic, ultra-nationalistic, chauvinistic ideology, but rather, we wish that these groups live in peace and freedom with each other, when democracy finally removes the fetters of demagoguery and dangerous ideology. Syria can no longer be ruled by a terror regime which relies on baathism, ultra-nationalism and Islamic fundamentalism in order to stay in power, and most perversely, it is so that these elements which prop-up Assad’s regime only comprise circa 10% of Syria! A similar example was to be found in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, where a Sunni minority under the Baath party brought so much misery and brutality to all of Iraq.
We are sick and tired of generations of children being raised to kill our neighbour’s children and visa versa. If democracy can take hold in Syria, then this will no longer be the case.
Dr. Hussein Saado
Germany"
Robert: what facts have you gathered?
I was disappointed once hearing from my one of my brother's aqaintence that this Lebanese Christian had hatred for Jews,but his no. l hatred was for muslims. This Will character has hatred inbred within himself, that he is the one that is blindsighted. We do not need more muslims immigratin into Western lands who do not try to assimulate. Why dont they realize why they left their lands, that their cult of death has brought them nothing but death and destruction. why do they want to bring that islam with them. leave it hehind in some ME cave where it was found 1600 years ago by a pedophile rapist theif called muhammud.
What doe's he mean by 'Your pathetic reader's'?
Pathetic in what way? He is definatly confused. Call's RS scum, then wishes him the best.
I am not a Dr, but if it was me I would get some Prozac...
What is 'will' doing here?! Call me names! Pig! Ape! sorry! I hate ignorance as such! No thanks, as my grandpa says! Just come here live and eat off the fat of the land! Critize what harbors him supposedly for his safety and writes to Robert of all people and calls us all names! Coward! Now we I see it is 7,000 not 3,000 as I was told Iraqi's being imported to Detroit. Without screening them!
Someone has lost it haven't they? Now we are left to deal with people as ignorant as him! Great!!
Already, I feel as if he is making war here! For he is just shy of saying destroy Israel and hate jews! Guess we can import the war here too?! Taqiyya! He has no place in America!!!!!!!! Go home!! GO HOME WHERE YOU BELONG!!! Why is Bush shipping these monkies here? Import ignorance and make us deal with this crapp! What's he mean better to fight them over there and not here? They are here! Now! ..........
Pathetic readers and scum! Why can't mail like that be sent to Bush and lets ask him to fix the problem NOW! I am not looking forward to dealing with over 7,000 of these bastards!
William is your typical rabid liberal. They hate Israel with a passion and blame the Jews for our foreign policy problems.
As for the bulk of his spiel its typical politically correct, mulitcult crap that automatically flows from the mouths of such people when confronted by those disagree with them.
It also betrays their ugly authoritarian side which try to hide from ordinary folks. You do not want these sorts in power.
William is your typical rabid liberal. They hate Israel with a passion and blame the Jews for our foreign policy problems.
As for the bulk of his spiel its typical politically correct, mulitcult crap that automatically flows from the mouths of such people when confronted by those disagree with them.
It also betrays their ugly authoritarian side which try to hide from ordinary folks. You do not want these sorts in power.
Good one, Robert:
Thanks for parking the pahblum pimp who obviously doesn't actaully READ what we regulars say, lest his "Ignorance" not be an issue.
I would ask "where the hell has HE been all this time?" but it's not worth the sidetracking.
I won't bother with the small stuff, as I'm with you, Robert...even my brother (who is IN country right now) says we should evac every single one of the assyrian/christian/catholic/chaldeans who need to as they face the worst imaginable...but too many of coming into the US are mOslem, not christian...and withstand FAR more persecution, assaults, terror, etc than ALL other groups there COMBINED (my own brothers words, so it's 1st hand) in their own present country.
The ones who've escaped (many of them live HERE in Californias Big Valley, I mean HUGE numbers) proved to be peaceful, love it here, would never think of bombing anyone/anything, regular church attendants, and don't go around like brownshirts screaming jihad in our own lands. The iraqi christians here are some of the nicest, and most fiercely friendly neighbors one could imagine, and unlike criminal aliens here, they ASSIMILATE... very quickly, and very well.
I found myself, if you make a close friend of one or more of them, you've made a friend for life.
Ok, enough of that point as one could say a LOT for those folks...the thing is, I'm not sure where this character who wrote such drivel to Robert is coming from, and although a few of his factoids may be accurate, the context of his message is so bizarre, experience has shown me this must be the work of a college freshman newly indoctrinated by a radical professor and testing his newfound narcissism, not to mention his colossal "Ignorance", a common reflection of his teacher.
Obviously, he doesn't bother to actually READ our posts, or he wouldn't have made such an ass of himself by posting such ridiculous spew.
Actually, Robert, I think it would be advantageous for you to post such drivel...we should show how "Ignorant" some really are, as well as the vitriolics of vociferous hatred, too, so we never forget what we're up against, and how far we have to go to overcome the dilemmas we face against this islamist assault against the entire western world. Besides, we also enjoy a good laugh, too.
Keep 'em coming.
(ooops, correction in order)...
correction...the Iraqi Christians, NOT the mOslems, who are facing more persecution, assaults, terror, etc...than all other groups combined.
(my mistake, got ahead of myself, lol)
Chaldeans for immigration purposes only. Once they are settled around the next mosque we can watch the transformation....
"You are scum."
Best,
Will
That's original.
Is it Will? Or Willhammed?
Sounds like another Jew hater has jumped into the hate-mail bag with both feet. Does this Bozo think that everyone who reads this site is Jewish or Israeli? What a bigoted fool.
Please put your Israeli flags away
Look at that, he said please. At least he's a polite anti-semitic dirtbag.
I also find that in many of my discussions, people I argue with - those on the far far left, think JihadWatch is a hate site.
It's astonishing, given all they do here is post articles as they appear in newspapers around the world.
It is a hate site I guess, as all through the stories one sees examples of religious violence against non-Muslims and so on.
As for the email, Mr. Spencer (sounds like an English aristocrat that name!) responded the best way possible, by facts, written with a calm air.
This annoys those people the most.
I can't believe how so many are still so ignorant about Islamic extremism.
I also find that in many of my discussions, people I argue with - those on the far far left, think JihadWatch is a hate site.
posted by Benjamin
People on the far, far, left are incapable of rational thought; they share this defect with muslims. That's why they are naturally attracted to those malevolent, evil people and their satanic death cult. The radical left considers anything that does not conform with the doctrine of cultural marxism to be racist, intolerant, bigoted, etc., ad nauseam. That includes civilized but honest discourse about other religions and cultures. Moral relativism is their guiding light so they are blind, and they like it that way. It allows them the luxury of never having to worry or feel threatened except when people like us dare to upset the status quo. If too many people shake the fragile foundation of political correctness it will come tumbling down, exposing multiculturalism for the fraud that it is. And they worship multiculturalism with their hearts and souls.
People who refuse to acknowledge the evil that oozes from islam are either retarded, dishonest, ignorant, in denial, or muslim. There are no other explanations that I can think of. I can deal with liberals as long as we don't discuss politics, and I have some very dear liberal friends. But I have no use for the far, far left. They're not even worth trying to understand because they don't understand themselves.
All jihad promotes the Islamic at the expense of all else. This is Islamization and we are all being Islamized.
Will's country, like mine, is becoming more Islamic, and less western, every day.
Halal food in our schools replaces free choice and constant "jihad of the hand/tongue" makes our universities, public places and communities more Islamic and less western.
Islamic culture is de-westernization culture. It is the replacement of politics, social affiars, education, fashion, food, healthcare, etc - with the religious ideology of Islam.
Islamization is cancer. You cannot live in harmony with cancer. So I hope you enjoy your cancer Will, coz its getting going to kill the world you were born in - and replace it with Islam.
-Stefcho.
End Islam. End Islamization.
Yeah I found the "you are scum" remark to be the least constructive comment in a generally ignorant letter.
Rape statistics in Norway show a sad story about the Iraqis.
They are represented by 700 percent (seven hundred) more than they should be, compared to their share of the Norwegian population.
I don't know how that is even possible.
All other crime statistics show the same pattern.
The same is true for Denmark and Sweden, but here rape statistics are not public.
You can guess why...