Jihad training -- is that a First Amendment right? The issue here seems to be clouded by the removal of books that aren't jihadist or Islamic at all. Officials need to sharpen their focus -- if they dare.
From AP, with thanks to Jesse Petrilla:
NEW YORK — Inmates at the federal prison camp in Otisville, N.Y., were stunned by what they saw at the chapel library on Memorial Day — hundreds of books had disappeared from the shelves.The removal of the books is occurring nationwide, part of a long-delayed, post-Sept. 11 federal directive intended to prevent radical religious texts, specifically Islamic ones, from falling into the hands of violent inmates.
Three inmates at Otisville filed a lawsuit over the policy, saying their Constitutional rights were violated. They say all religions were affected.
"The set of books that have been taken out have been ones that we used to minister to new converts when they come in here," inmate John Okon, speaking on behalf of the prison's Christian population, told a judge last week.
Okon said it was unfortunate because "I have really seen religion turn around the life of some of these men, especially in the Christian community."
The government maintained that that the new rules don't entirely clear the shelves of prison chapel libraries....
Feldman said the removal order stemmed from an April 2004 Department of Justice review of the way prisons choose Muslim religious services providers. It is not exactly clear why it took so long for the order to be put into effect, but prison officials said they needed time to examine a long list of books.
Feldman said the study was made out of a concern that prisons "had been radicalized by inmates who were practicing or espousing various extreme forms of religion, specifically Islam, which exposed security risks to the prisons and beyond the prisons to the public at large."
Feldman said the review by the U.S. Bureau of Prisons concluded that prison chapel libraries were not adequately supervised.
"The presence of extremist chaplains, contractors or volunteers in the BOP's correctional facilities can pose a threat to institutional security and could implicate national security if inmates are encouraged to commit terrorist acts against the United States," the bureau's report said.
The review suggested audio and video monitoring of worship areas and chapel classrooms and screening of religious service providers. It also recommended that prisons reduce inmate-led religious services and consider constant staff monitoring of inmate-led services....
Inmate Moshe Milstein told the judge by telephone that the chaplain at Otisville removed about 600 books from the chapel library on Memorial Day, including Harold S. Kushner's best-seller "When Bad Things Happen to Good People," a book that Norman Vincent Peale said was "a book that all humanity needs."
"There is definitely irreparable harm done to us already, and we would like the court to issue the injunction to get the books back as soon as possible," he said.
Inmate Douglas Kelly, who described himself as a representative of the prison's Muslim community, complained of "a denial of our First Amendment rights."
He said books on Islam already were the least represented in the library's collections and were reduced by half in the Memorial Day removal.
"A lot of what we are missing were definitely prayer books or prayer guides and religious laws on the part of the Muslim faith," he said....
Ron Kuby, a civil rights lawyer who has represented a former head Islamic chaplain banned from the state prison system after he was accused of making extremist statements, called the prison book removal "a mass Memorial Day book burning."
But he also said there might be limits to relief the prisoners can seek because prisoners' First Amendment rights are severely limited.
The only religion that is problematic in either prison or the free world is islam. Probably why Christian books are being included in the ban is so that muslims cannot claim that they are being singled out.
The problem is that they should be being singled out as they are the only religious group committing terrorism on a global scale.
As Hugh pointed out before, the appeal to islam for inmates is that under the banner of islam, the criminal acts they commit are not only acceptable but considered holy and righteous as long as they are being committed against non-muslims.
Christianity forces people on that hard road of acknowledgement of personal sin and the need for Christ' redemption.
A religion that states: you're a sinner and that you need to repent and change is no where near as enticing as one that says: do your worst to whoever is not one of us.
The government must ask the palintiffs to list each and very book and explain why it should not be removed.
Conversely, the government could list each and every book and state why it was removed.
I would argue that the Quran should be removed and confiscated from every inmate.
Well since the damage is irreparable , I dont think anything need be done except return the Jewish and Christian text to their rightful place and discard the remaining islamic text.
Hmm, there certainly are alot of these "holy", "devout" Muslims in PRISON!
I have little doubt that the gov't screwed this up.
Bureaucratic thinking at work.
Comment - "Hey, we need to get all that mohammedan jihad stuff off the bookshelves"
Answer - "Doh OK. We'll take out all the books that make reference to any religion"
Undoubtedly this is up there with searching Swedish gandmas and Chinese 5 year olds in the search for jihaddis at the airports.
Every once in a while I think about our brain-damaged government and visualize the part of Frankenstein where the outraged villiagers run up the hill with pitch forks and torches to destroy the monster.
How the hezba can they file suit or do anything they have lost their rights! They all should be doing hard labor!
..the books should be replaced with history books, math books, english language books, science books and other educational books...maybe the muslims could learn something that is contributory to society instead of learning dominance and death...
...next on the list is to eliminate the horrid policy of early outs for violent criminals...
Of course only the Islamic texts should be removed. Only the Koran instructs it's followers to kill others AND to feel completely justified, guilt-free, in doing so.
Yeah, funny isn't it how many devout Muslims we got - in PRISON! That speaks volumes.
"Yeah, funny isn't it how many devout Muslims we got - in PRISON! That speaks volumes.
Posted by: darcy"
...I am wondering how many "prison converts" were forced conversions....prison can be a tough place...
...and it is interesting to note the majority of "prison converts" are black, who upon their release, immediately seek out militant encampments such as "Islamberg"....
....Prison Muslim converts will be violent, I suspect....
Prisoners lose their rights to a choice of reading materials by breaking the law.
Let them read their consciences.
And study their pasts.
That should take up enough of their time and prevent this waste of taxpayers' money about providing criminals with literature that only hardens and reinforces their criminality.