Internet Jihad Update: Jihad leader Omar Bakri hasn't really left Britain at all. He just speaks to his followers via a webcast. "Internet spreads terror to Britain," by Andrew Alderson and Miles Goslett in the Sunday Telegraph (thanks to WriterMom):
It is 11pm on Tuesday and Omar Bakri Mohammed's loyal band of followers hunch over computers and laptops at secret locations across Britain to listen to his defiant message to the west.Many are hoping that the Muslim cleric, who lives in the Lebanese capital Beirut after being banned from the UK, will spell out his views on the Government's decision to give Salman Rushdie a knighthood. Bakri does not disappoint them.
After listening to Bakri's lecture for more than two hours on a secretive internet chat room, one participant asks in a written question: "Is there a new fatwa against salman and the queen for giving [the knighthood]?"
Speaking with a heavy middle eastern accent, Bakri responds: "Salman Rushdie, no doubt what he did was an apostasy… not because he get knighthood but because he insulted the honour of the prophet Mohammed (with his book The Satanic Verses)… He is murtadd (a traitor for rejecting Islam) anyway so there isn't any need for a new fatwa… People like him deserve to get the capital punishment."
Bakri and his followers had their discussion on a webcast. The webcasts can run several times a week, and up to 70 people a night log in, each with an individual password.
The Sunday Telegraph monitored a range of extremist websites and chatrooms last week as part of an investigation into the spread of Islamist militancy on the internet. MI5, the security service, and Scotland Yard are increasingly concerned that the internet is being used by terrorists to incite attacks in Britain and to recruit volunteers.
We discovered extremists posting messages and images on a recently established, password-protected pro-Islamist site. It is on sites like this that Bakri's broadcasts are referred to openly, with advice on what time they begin and even requests not to "arrive" in the chatroom late. There are also dozens of photographs celebrating, among others, Osama bin Laden, and a tasteless message expressing "amusement" at photographs of American soldiers killed by terrorists.
Vigil, a privately funded intelligence group, believes much of the extremist material comes from al-Qaeda sympathisers in Britain.
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The EU announced a month ago that it wanted to strengthen its monitoring of militant Islamist websites. "Terrorists use the internet not only as a means to communicate and spread propaganda, but also to radicalise, recruit and train terrorists, to spread instructions on how to carry out concrete offences and to transfer covert information," a meeting of ambassadors concluded.
Patrick Mercer, the former Conservative spokesman for homeland security, said of the growing use of the internet by militants: "This is a much greater threat than people realise. Radicalisation is taking place on a number of different fronts and more people are sympathetic than we dare believe. The only way to penetrate this is by the careful development of intelligence sources and a clear understanding of the radicalisation process."
Americans have been locked in struggle with some very violent and evil forces throughout our history but I can't remember a culture that enjoyed looking at photos of dead soldiers for "amusement". These people are so putrid and twisted that, even though I have a strong stomach, they make me ill.
Patrick Mercer, the former Conservative spokesman for homeland security, said of the growing use of the internet by militants: "This is a much greater threat than people realise. Radicalisation is taking place on a number of different fronts and more people are sympathetic than we dare believe.
If you have a problem summoning the intellectual courage to confront the facts about how many people there are who believe this stuff and how fervently they believe it, step down from your position. The rest of us don't need you occupying a role that really should be in the hands of a more suitable individual, one who understands how to collect and analyze data to draw conclusions, however unwelcome those conclusions may be relative to the analyzer's wishes.
"Dare to believe", what kind of statement is this. If the facts are there, it's not a "belief", it's "knowledge". Actual, hard data that can be used in decision-making, not some squishy and vague belief.
A man who we pay to protect our society says:
The only way to penetrate this is by the careful development of intelligence sources and a clear understanding of the radicalisation process.
Perhaps he meant:
The only way to penetrate this is by the careful development of intelligence sources and a clear understanding of the religion.
9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture and believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
9:33 He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.
9:39 If ye go not forth He will afflict you with a painful doom, and will choose instead of you a folk other than you. Ye cannot harm Him at all. Allah is Able to do all things.
I don't get it. Is this news? Hasn't the use of the internet LONG been a tool that these radicals have used?
Proposals to limit jihadism in europe
1. Stop Muslim Imigration
2. Kick out of the country foreign preachers who teach subversive attitude against european law
3. Monitor and expose jihad mosques; close down those that do preach jihadism
4. Promote public understanding of Muhammad's life
5. Force Muslim leaders to say, in no uncertain terms, if they are with the civilized world, or if they are with the goat-humping, wife-beating, child-molesting, Jew-hating, suicidal culture called "islamic culture".
bravo crusader.
when will leaders, politicians in the free world are going to realise dangers posed by these lunatics - perhaps never.
Making preaching the message of islam should be the most dangerous job on earth , it would go a long way toward ending jihad.
Muslims Back To Mecca.
Free Halal Boxed-Lunches for All Who Leave.
The infil-traitors must be encouraged to go home to Muslim lands.
They're too expensive to monitor, track, try and imprison.
The One-Way Hadj Must Be Begun.
And no new Muslims in the West till Islam reforms.
Profitsbeard, sounds good to me.
Muslims united against Australia and the Jooozzz
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/06/24/aussie-muslims-unite-against-israel/
What would Abu Hamsa al Masri do?
Where is he?
Are his toilet habits regular?
Has he become more moderate?
Can he still contact people on Fridays?
Abu Hamza al-Masri - former imam of Finsbury Park mosque, LondonHe's my favorite and I miss quotes from him. He's also tops in my estimation for accuracy and fielty to the letter and spirit of True Believers. His physical appearance is also consistent with his message.
http://www.free-abu-hamza.co.uk/images/news2.jpg
He's a top-shelf example of Islam and its message for the rest of the world.
I am not concerned with what is being preached on the net, as the people seeking out Bakri already hate us. My concerns are the ‘moderate’ imams spouting that it is okay to hate the indigenous population here in Europe. As it has already been proven through undercover investigation in France, Germany and Britain. Additionally, European governments seem to do nothing to close down the mosques and boot out the incendiary imams.