Iran: guests at British Embassy party attacked, detained by police

Another issue here may be that Moslem's do not celebrate birthdays - except for the Prophet, Mohhammad - so birthday cake, and birthday celebrations, represent a loosening of Islamic values due to corrupt Western influences.

Another issue here may be that Moslem's do not celebrate birthdays - except for that of the Prophet, Mohhammad - so birthday cake, and birthday celebrations, represent a loosening of Islamic values due to corrupt Western influences.

Why the hell does anybody have an embassy in Tehran?

Other than fellow terrorists?

I hope the naive Brits have lead-lined underwear for the glowing future that approaches Iran.

Don't forget that Iran is a major supplier to oil. You may not like their support of Islamic movements but you've probably driven your car with their oil and sent them parts of your paycheck.

Her Majesty's birthday is a US plot apparently.

".....just as glad for their loved ones to be born as you are?"
Posted by: stranger83

Yeah right. That's why they train their children from birth to be jihadists, out of love for the little angels. That's why the pregnant mother of eight planned to blow herself up, out of love for her children, because she was oh so glad they had been born.

Maybe they heard about the Queen's birthday present to the muslims. Salman Rushdie was knighted. Just wait until this gets out in the islame-ic world.

7.Rushdie awarded knighthood
Outlook India - 50 minutes agoIndia-born internationally acclaimed author Salman Rushdie was today awarded knighthood by Britain's Queen Elizabeth II, who also honoured 19 other NRIs in recognition of their contribution to various fields.

You go Queenie!

Another issue here may be that Moslem's do not celebrate birthdays - except for the Prophet, Mohhammad - so birthday cake, and birthday celebrations, represent a loosening of Islamic values due to corrupt Western influences.

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are you sure you're not talking about Jehovah's Witnesses? they dont celebrate birthdays... not even Jesus' birthday.

stranger83 thinks Robert Spencer should get a new job.

I think stranger83 should get a new blog.

Peas says: Moslem's do not celebrate birthdays

Stranger says: Just another ignorant statement. I assure you Muslims celebrate birthdays.

What a great question for your next game of "Is it Halal or Haram" (hereby giving appropriate recognition to Hugh for the game's creation).

Or, Let's play now!

I say haram.

Anyone?

"Stop thinking in terms of they and us. Its a breeding ground for stupidity and rascism.
Dont you agree with me that your statement is quite
stupid? Do THEY, all of them, train their children to be Jihadis? How many of THEM do you know that train their children to be Jihadis?

Posted by: stranger83 at June 16, 2007 11:56 AM"

"rascism?" that's a new one. Care to explain?

racism= when you don't want here the truth about islam you scream racism!

Gee, where could the hubris for such actions possibly originate? Hmmm...

"Stop thinking in terms of they and us. Its a breeding ground for stupidity and rascism.
stranger83

You sound like me - till the morning of 9/11/01.

My NOT thinking in terms of 'them and us' IS the reason my whole world changed that day. ISLAM IS THEM and we are US.

Islam, heart and soul, is a Fascist world-dominating all encompassing faith that enslaves the human mind to the whims and passions of a 7th century human monster named Mohammed.

Each word of the above statement I can copiously back up with word and DEED from Islamic mainstream teachings and the Quran and 'most reliable hadiths' and 1,400 years of history. I have little interest in islamic Taqqiya. I'd rather spend my time waking up the rest of US.

stranger83:

Since when did Muslims become a race??

I wish Islam was invisible.

Islam and Birthdays

Question:
what is the evidence on celebrating birthdays,is it allowed in islam?

Answer:

The evidence in the Qur’aan and Sunnah indicates that celebrating birthdays is a kind of bid’ah or innovation in religion, which has no basis in the pure sharee’ah. It is not permitted to accept invitations to birthday celebrations, because this involves supporting and encouraging bid’ah. Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Or have they partners with Allaah (false gods) who have instituted for them a religion which Allaah has not allowed…?” [al-Shoora 42:21]

“Then We have put you (O Muhammad) on a plain way of (Our) commandment. So follow that, and follow not the desires of those who know not. Verily, they can avail you nothing against Allaah (if He wants to puish you). Verily, the zaalimoon (wrongdoers) are awliyaa’ (protectors, helpers, etc.) to one another, but Allaah is the Wali (Protector, Helper) of the muttaqoon (pious).” [al-Jaathiyah 45:18-19]

“Follow what has been sent down unto you from your Lord, and follow not any awliyaa’ (protectors, helpers, etc.) besides Him. Little do you remember!” [al-A’raaf 7:3]

Perhaps I should have said, "Some strict, religious Moslems consider it inappropriate to celebrate birthdays, because this is considered an insult to the Prophet Mohammad".

This is information I heard from a guy who worked at the CIA, so it is second hand.

It is a valid point that not all Moslems are the same. However, I felt it was useful to understand the Iranians' mentality by sharing this perspective. The very word "birthday cake" may mean something different to an Iranian than to a Westerner. Before we go to war with another country, it is at least important to understand who they are and what they value, to prevent misunderstandings, unnecessary conflict, and avoidable bloodshed.

Perhaps the person objecting to my statement could have said, "While it is true in some Islamic societies that celebrating a birthday is considered an insult to the Prophet Mohammad, this is not true in other Islamic societies." Perhaps Sunnis or Shia or Sufis or whatever feel this way. This would have created an opportunity for communications and understanding, which is important for both war and peace.

stranger83:

May I suggest you go and spend some time reading the factual archive maintained at www.thereligionofpeace.com then come back here with your 'Islam is a religion of peace&trade' message/troll?

My guess is that very, very few people that post here are the racists you accuse them of being; they do, however, enjoy a higher than average awareness about the central deceptions of Islam, due to their own enquiring minds and this site's scholarly editorial contributors.

You will also find that they are extremely attuned to overtures of Taqiyya, being able to spot them a mile away ;)

Thanks Poet, you just said what I wanted to say to stranger. Until Islam has a huge orgasmic reformation, the equation stands at:

Islam = fascism

That's all one needs to know. Freedom loving people from all walks of life are under no obligation to engage, appease or otherwise consort with people who follow this ideology as it is the antithesis of everything WE believe in.

pvb: Thanks for the link. Cool - the CIA guy actually knew what he was talkinga about (although your link shows the reason for the objection to birthdays - it creates a new religious practice, which is not allowed). Interesting insight into the mentality of strict Koranic Muslems.

stranger83: Pull your head out of your ass.

those water cans, tomatoes and paint balls Iranian throwers were just insulted that they were not invited. They want their cake and the whole west with it. since Iranians cannot enjoy a good party, they rather rain on someone else's party. islam is like a wet blanket, party crasher,made for just outright
stupid brainwashed people.

damn was typing to fast(rascism) lol

stranger83 why dont you think people would rather have a good time at Gitmo than get beheaded like Nick Berg, do you see a difference ? would you rather have underwear on your head or lose your head man? islmanist try to perfect real pain and torture while sawing your head off. go troll get the fcck out.

They never did this before, sounds like they have a plan. Things are moving forward. BD indeed for the queen! Every morning is like, lets' go see what the brats are doing!! Sure enough, if it is not messed up they are there messing with it!

unlawful warfare= strap on bomb belt look for buss or resturant and kill innocent people

I don't think Muslims or Arabs are in any position to charge others with racism. Their anti-semitism is as virulent as anything the NAZIS preached or practiced during their days in power.

That proven hoax, "The protocals of the elders of Zion" is still published rountinaly in the press of Most Arab socities -- without shame or embarrasment.

Arab soap operas depict Jews draining the blood from children for use in baking bread.

Show Palestinian children have their eyes surgically removed by Jewish Doctors for transplant to Jewish children.

Print anti-semetic cartoons, borrowed from the NAZI press, of hooked noosed child predators and disease carrying rodents.

Tolerance, love of humanity and spirituality, are hardly stromg points of Arabs or Muslims.

stranger83 why dont you think people would rather have a good time at Gitmo

A good time at Gitmo? Tell me, did the good doctor drop on your head when you born, or are you just planning to revive the Hitler Jugend fan club? I really wish you a fate of those detainees in Guantanmo, held for five years without charges and then come and talk to me about your values again.
Seriously, you would have made a good Nazi, telling people how humane Buchenwald was, look they even had
an orchestra! T

Do THEY, all of them, train their children to be Jihadis? How many of THEM do you know that train their children to be Jihadis?

Posted by: stranger83

I would agree that not all muslims fit the Jihadis mold - BUT, where ARE their moderates? Why are they not protesting against those Jihadis who have "hijacked" their religion..........

Unless of course they silently agree with them? If a group of people stand by and say nothing - they leave others to assume they are in agreement.

It also doesn't help to read headlines telling us about polls where HUGE numbers of muslims think homicide bombing is legit for religious purposes.

Sorry, can't excuse that kind of backward thinking.

When we are at war with a nation why should I care what they think or feel?

We are at war with Iran. If the Persians want to fix the situation, revolt.

That's how freedom is won, by the way, for anyone reading that happens to live under Islamic repression (doubtful you can access the Net though) -- you fight for it.

Do people really think that Democracy exists in this world but for one nation on Earth? And the United States fought the Superpower of that Age to get it!

Quit hassling Americans and fix your own situation.

In the meantime, we are at war with Iran. And Syria. And Saudi Arabia.

Hell, if you're a Muslim nation you are not our friend. Get over it.

That's right. I SAID IT!

racism= when you don't want here the truth about islam you scream racism!

Posted by: AMartinez

Very true. If so-called 'christians' were blowing themselves up to kill others and folks criticized them, you could hardly accuse those folks of racism.

Islam is not a race. There are white muslims - catch on - it's a RELIGION.

P.S. If someone beats their child to death, they are NO Christian. A Christian obeys the Word of God (The Word of God is Jesus Christ) and Jesus did not command that his followers kill their children! Read the scriptures.

Apparently, there are muslims that think it is perfectly okay to practice child sacrifice (a religious practice that was common in pre-islamic pagan arab religions).

If they don't believe this, then why abuse their children by teaching them to hate and to wish to kill others and blow themselves up in future - for the sake of their moon god??

A very sick way of loving your children if you ask me.

Also, why send the kids? Why doesn't their leaders do the dirty work? Cowards.

stranger83:

Tell us how you would handle enemy combatants,who are taken off the battlefield,and who proclaim allegiance to Al-Qaeda,or an Identified Terrorist organization?

How do you handle these people who want to kill you but have no connection to a specific and uniformed military of a country?

Please take a little time and explain to us how you would handle these people differently?

Take your time

PVB

thank you.

Birthday celebrations are haram as I thought.

Since no one else played, I win.

Here's the next question for the game Is it Halal or Haram?

Can a muslim shop at Piggly Wiggly?
(don't laugh, here in the southeast there really is a supermarket chain by that name).

Well, I could reverse the question, where are your moderates protesting against the hijacking of your constitution?

The government is not a religion and I would say that it is American citizens that should protest. Americans are of all faiths.

Your question makes no sense.

I repeat, where are your moderates protesting against the hijacking of your constitution, meaning
the protest against unlawful detention, torture,
wire tapping, abuse of power, neglect of habeas corpus ecs?

Why are you so obsessed with people blowing themselves up?

Posted by: stranger83

Why label the criticism of evil religious behaviour with racism?

A spanking is not the same as a beating.

On the other hand I understand that there are practicing muslims that believe it is justifiable (according to the Koran) to beat their wives.

Christians are told to love their wives.

Hmmmm

Anyone have video of the attacks? Get some damn video of these folks people!!! Cameras are the enemies of Muslims because they tell the truth about what is happening. Someone must have had a cellphone camera to capture the images of these barbarians.

I repeat, where are your moderates protesting against the hijacking of your constitution

Posted by: stranger83

I repeat:

The government is not a religion and I would say that it is American citizens that should protest if they are unhappy with the government. American citizens are of all faiths because this country has freedom of religion.

Religion is religion - government is government.

If a Islam is being hijacked, then it is the responsibility of members of that religion to deal with the hijackers in their midst (mosques) and to publically protest against the corruption of their religion by so-called 'illegitimate' muslims.

Stranger

The following is how one of the purest, dedicated , faithful muslim leaders in the world views the treatment of children.

Remember, not all these children were kidnapped. Many parents (muslim parents) voluntered their children.

Ahmadinejad's World

The deployment of the Basiji in the mine fields shows what one can
expect from the Mullah-Regime

by Matthias Küntzel

In pondering the behavior of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, I cannot help
but think of the 500,000 plastic keys that Iran imported from Taiwan during
the Iran-Iraq War of 1980-88. At the time, an Iranian law laid down that
children as young as 12 could be used to clear mine fields, even against the
objections of their parents. Before every mission, a small plastic key would
be hung around each of the children’s necks. It was supposed to open for
them the gates to paradise.
"In the past," wrote the semi-official Iranian daily Ettela'at, "we had childvolunteers:
14-, 15-, and 16-year-olds. They went into the mine fields. Their
eyes saw nothing. Their ears heard nothing. And then, a few moments later,
one saw clouds of dust. When the dust had settled again, there was nothing
more to be seen of them. Somewhere, widely scattered in the landscape,
there lay scraps of burnt flesh and pieces of bone." Such scenes could
henceforth be avoided, Ettela'at assured its readers. "Before entering the
mine fields, the children [now] wrap themselves in blankets and they roll on
the ground, so that their body parts stay together after the explosion of the
mines and one can carry them to the graves."1
1 Cited in Baham Nirumand, Krieg, Krieg, bis zum Sieg, in: Anja Malanowski und Marianne Stern, Iran-Irak.
,Bis die Gottlosen vernichtet sind’, Reinbek (Rowohlt) 1987, p. 95-6.
The children who thus rolled to their deaths formed part of the mass
“Basij” movement that was called into being by the Ayatollah Khomeini in
1979. The Basij Mostazafan – the “mobilization of the oppressed” – consisted
of short-term volunteer militias. Most of the Basij members were not yet 18.
They went enthusiastically and by the thousands to their own destruction.
"The young men cleared the mines with their own bodies," a veteran of the
Iran-Iraq War has recalled, "It was sometimes like a race. Even without the
commander's orders, everyone wanted to be first."2
The western media showed little interest for the Basiji – perhaps
because journalists could not be present during the hostilities or perhaps
because they did not believe the reports. Such disinterest has persisted to
this day. The 5000 dead of Saddam Hussein's poison gas attack on the
Kurds of Halabja have remained in our memory. History has forgotten the
children of the minefields.
Today, however, Ahmadinejad appears in public in his Basiji uniform.
During the war, he served as one of the Basiji instructors who turned
children into martyrs. The generation that fought in the Iran-Iraq War has
come to power along with Ahmadinejad. He owed his election in Summer
2005 to the contemporary Basiji movement. In Fall, he announced a "Basiji
Week." According to a report in the newspaper Kayan, some 9 million Basiji
heeded the call, “forming a human chain some 8,700 kilometers long…. In
Tehran alone, some 1,250,000 people turned out.”3 In his speeches,
Ahmadinejad praises the “Basiji culture" and the "Basiji power” with which
2 Cited in Christiane Hoffmann, Vom elften Jahrhundert zum 11. September. Märtyrertum und Opferkultur
sollen Iran als Staat festigen, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, May 4, 2002.
3 Wahied Wahdat-Hagh, Bassiji: die revolutionäre Miliz des Iran, in: MEMRI Berlin, Special Dispatch,
December 20, 2005.
"Iran today makes its presence felt on the international and diplomatic
stage." Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, Chair of the Guardian Council, goes so far
as to describe the very existence of Iran’s nuclear program as a triumph of
those Iranians who "serve the Basiji movement and possess the Basijipsyche
and Basiji-culture."4
Far from being the subject of criticism, the sacrifice made of the Basiji
in the war against Iraq is celebrated nowadays more than ever before.
Already in one of his first television interviews, the new President enthused:
"Is there an art that is more beautiful, more divine, more eternal than the art
of the martyr's death?"

I lost the link where I found this article but google the primary terms and you'll find it.

We are at war with Iran. If the Persians want to fix the situation, revolt.

They tried that once and Khomeini betrayed them. He promised freedom from the Shah, but once in power proceeded to kill all of the liberals, moderates, and religious minorities. He then created a hellish dictatorship even worse than that of the Shah. A revolt is not going to happen without outside assistance, especially in the weapons department.

stranger:

I repeat, where are your moderates protesting against the hijacking of your constitution, meaning the protest against unlawful detention, torture, wire tapping, abuse of power, neglect of habeas corpus ecs

Lets make a deal stranger: You protest the honor murders, beheadings, anti-semitism, suicide bombings, gender apartheid, and brainwashing. I'll protest all that stuff you just said. Fair enough? Ball's in your court.

Lets make a deal stranger: You protest the honor murders, beheadings, anti-semitism, suicide bombings, gender apartheid, and brainwashing. I'll protest all that stuff you just said. Fair enough? Ball's in your court.

Posted by: paradox

Well said paradox.

Stranger?

I expect he'll change the subject or cry racism.

James Martel

More photos here but they do not depict any violence
http://www.mideastyouth.com/2007/06/16/1652/

"water cans, tomatoes and paint balls were lobbed into the embassy compound during protests." Thank you dear lord, that mos flock dos'nt know what a slingshot is or a nickle plated 45.

Well said paradox.

Stranger?

Thanks.

Of course I am sure that Stranger will provide us with an examplary and logically infallible argument for why he cannot accept my oroposal. Indeed, his rhetoric is of such singular calibre that I fear that even my knowledge of the propositional and predicate calculi will prove insufficient in a debate with one such as he.

Well said paradox.

Stranger?

Thanks.

Of course I am sure that Stranger will provide us with an examplary and logically infallible argument for why he cannot accept my proposal. Indeed, his rhetoric is of such singular calibre that I fear that even my knowledge of the propositional and predicate calculi will prove insufficient in a debate with one such as he.

/Must drill: preview is thy friend

Islam is evil, and so are those who defend it.

Perhaps they anticipated a girl popping out of the Cake. Islamists are afraid of women. Especially women hidden in cakes!

/Fatwah anyone?

"It is hereby decreed for now and for always that the prophet mohammed (peanut butter upon him) really hated it when women startled him on his birthday, by popping out of his holy islamic encrusted cake". I heard the prophet say, "death to women who pop out of cakes"!!

Women who hide in cakes are evil and should be despised by the prophet's followers.

So let it be spoken, so let it be done. And allah'tallah knows best.

/no word on pole dancers.

@paradox wrote with regards to Iranian aspirations for revolt:

"They tried that once and Khomeini betrayed them. He promised freedom from the Shah, but once in power proceeded to kill all of the liberals, moderates, and religious minorities. He then created a hellish dictatorship even worse than that of the Shah. A revolt is not going to happen without outside assistance, especially in the weapons department."

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I'm sorry, but I'm no longer buying that excuse. There are only a few possible reasons for Iran to continue down the road it is on:

1) The Iranian people are becoming Islamized at a faster rate and such a growing segment of the population no longer wants change and will not much longer be the minority.

2) The Persians (anti-Islamists, anti-Arab influence, pro-American democracy) are too weak-willed to organize armed resistance. Perhaps if I insult them they might start to find the will.

3) Too many Iranians are having delusions of grandeur and conjuring up ancient Imperial ideas. The idea of nuclear power and nuclear weapons is in their minds. And this is probably fueled by:

4) "Gog" and "Magog" are actually in firm alliance and the Russians are making promises behind closed doors that keep Iran on the wrong course. This idea is fast becoming less Revelations and more actuality it seems. Ultimately it seems that the United States and Israel are the primary targets -- as usual.

I strongly sympathize with the downtrodden Persian people. I know that many of them are as sick of the Islamists as I am, but the fact remains, until they take the fight to the enemies in their own backyard, they will end up being our enemies collectively.

When nuclear terror becomes a reality because Iran has proliferated the goods to more of its proxy warriors, nobody is going to care anymore about sympathizing with any elements within Iran. The response will be what it has to be -- deadly and 'equal opportunity' destruction.

Persia must free itself.

stranger, fact is the Gitmo inmates come out there weighing more than when they entered. they get three meals , islam style, a prayer rug, and health care, reading material, aka koran, how honestly can you compare that to any nazi concentration camp. you are the one who was dropped on your head, and perhaps you are trying to keep your head in the sand now.

I strongly sympathize with the downtrodden Persian people. I know that many of them are as sick of the Islamists as I am, but the fact remains, until they take the fight to the enemies in their own backyard, they will end up being our enemies collectively.

When nuclear terror becomes a reality because Iran has proliferated the goods to more of its proxy warriors, nobody is going to care anymore about sympathizing with any elements within Iran. The response will be what it has to be -- deadly and 'equal opportunity' destruction.

I agree, survival comes first. I'm all for destroying their nuclear program, their military, and any and all governement agencies ASAP.

My reluctance mainly stems from the 20,000 Persian Jews still living there. To support a course of action that would kill thousands of Jews is something I don't know if I can do.

My opinion: Evacuate the Persian Jews to Israel in cooperation with the IDF then once they're safe, its clobberin' time.

Of course, this should be done before they have nukes, that goes without saying.

stranger83

While incarcerating enemy combatants in Gitmo is definitely not pleasant for them, what other options do we have? The Geneva Conventions don't cover these people in any way shape or form. They aren't Prisoners of War and they aren't civilians. The only alternative would be to shot them when we capture them. Or maybe behead them on camera. Oh, wait, we're not muslims.

Stranger, you have serious cranial-rectal inversion and I hope you cure it soon.

That won’t work Paradox. You can’t have an aerial shit storm of a war if you ask all the people you like to leave in an orderly fashion a month before. You might get awe but it won’t be a shock.

Anyway Foehammer is right. Those people living under the Islamic thumb are the ones responsible for their own destiny. If they choose to do nothing then nothing should be done for them.

Has for the Queens Birthday party it doesn’t help that Bliar and his henchmen stated publicly that Britain won’t attack Iran. It seems that Bliar only likes wars when America takes the lead.

It is twenty five years since the Falklands War. In 1982 the British (Thatcher) government spent 5% on defence. In 2007 that figure has gone down to 2.5%. We have less of everything you need to fight a war, in part because weapons are becoming more and more expensive and because we are committed to two large fronts at the same time.

The Iranians aren’t daft, they know that Bliar is a snake oil merchant pretending to be a statesman, and they know that our military are under funded and overstretched. That is why I believe they are taking the piss out of us.

Gee...where were those police BEFORE this terrorist act occurred? (as if)

Anyway Foehammer is right. Those people living under the Islamic thumb are the ones responsible for their own destiny. If they choose to do nothing then nothing should be done for them.

They can't leave, the government won't give exit visas to Jews. Many of them managed to escape during the revolution, those that were caught were killed. Nowadays if any Jew leaves Iran, their family will be murdered. They are watched closely by the secret police, and will be killed if they even try to leave. They're dhimmis in a country they've lived in since before Mohammad crawled out of the pit in which he was spawned.

I really f8**()$ing hate Islam.

Amen to the f8**()$ing hate Islam.

It sounds like they are kept as human shields, but obviously that is not the case. But if we give them special attention they will become human shields.

A modern shooting war is increasingly accurate and from afar. It is possible to cripple a country like Iran without putting one boot on the ground. Don’t forget that at the end of the day Iran is no power house of military might. Saddam fought them to a standstill for years and we all know what happened to him when the west came knocking. We got to a point in Iraq where we were bouncing rubble because there was nothing left to blow up.

Iran is the master of mouth, and all they are trying to do is keep the missiles and war planes at bay long enough to join the nuclear club. This isn’t going to happen because Israel won’t let it. We can play armchair generals with Iran because they can’t hurt us, but Israel has been threatened implicitly. Unfortunately this means the Jews in Iran could feel the repercussions.

I feel for them but they need to start thinking for themselves and not expecting to be saved

I feel for them but they need to start thinking for themselves and not expecting to be saved

Then we make the Mullahs and Ahmedamnnutjob wish they were never born. No quick death for them. Make it slow, make it long, make it excrutiating. Tape it and send it to others as a warning: The gloves are off, the brass knuckles are on...

Fair enough.

I seem to remember hearing about pilots destroying Winnebagos because Intel said Saddam was travelling in one. The war had got to the point where multi million dollar jets were blowing up camper vans.

Iran is looking down the barrel of the same very powerful gun, and they are playing games in the hope of dodging the bullet. They know what we can do.

In the end it won't work, and there isn't one country in the whole world that will mobilise its troops to defend Iran against the West.

If Iran continues on its path then somewhere down the line we will be bouncing rubble in Tehran.

Then next stop Pakistan and were ready to be free, and the life of the world may move forward into bright sunlit uplands.

Beasty Boy has so far not goaded the US or Israel into attacking them, so now they are trying Britain
again. Beasty desperatly need's someone to attack Iran, to cause enough chao's to bring Mahdi out of the closet. Maitreya's men claim he is the last prophet, and all the other prophet's including Mahdi combined into one super prophet. Of course Maitreya is the front man for a race of super human space people, called 'The Elohim'...I can hardly wait...

I noticed stranger's posts deleted - didn't read them in this thread, but they're still there in the previous thread. So did he simply flee, or did he get banned?

Wouldn't a muslim celebrating a birthday be like adding up the years they have failed to martyr themselves or die in the cause of Allah?

Fault and failure is something NEVER pointed out in the circus that is Islam.Therefore one certainly would not celebrate something that can never exist.

To celebrate a birthday would be to celebrate life and because muslims love death more than life,why celebrate a birthday.

Now that i think about it i don't see why they don't celebrate a death when it's something they look forward to and "live" for?

I don't know did muhammad ever celebrate his birthday? Maybe he celebrated by sexing up his sexy thangs more than he usually did,if thats possible.You know he was quite "the man".

How many kids did this stud have?

ReligionofPeas,

"The very word "birthday cake" may mean something different to an Iranian than to a Westerner. Before we go to war with another country, it is at least important to understand who they are and what they value, to prevent misunderstandings, unnecessary conflict, and avoidable bloodshed."

Somebody should have told this to Bush before he did the Iraq thing.

Leave Iraq Now ,

"Before every mission, a small plastic key would
be hung around each of the children’s necks. It was supposed to open for
them the gates to paradise."

A plastic key for a plastic paradise...

Well, we know that those children are in the real heaven now...

Stranger? We're Waaaaiiting! What's your response to my well-educated colleagues. You really need to read up on American history and actually know about the constitution before you throw it out there. Are you a jihadi or a basiji?
You really sound like that's the extent of your thinking. But you know what they say,
ignorance is shahidi bliss.