Islamic scholars honor Bin Laden in response to Rushdie knighthood

Islamic scholars? But doesn't that mean they have...studied Islam? And yet they are honoring bin Laden? But don't they know the true, peaceful teachings of the Qur'an and Muhammad that we keep hearing so much about? How is it that they overlooked them?

And why didn't the rest of the nation's Islamic scholars rise up against this and protest? Tiny Minority of Extremists Update: "Scholars honour Bin Laden," by Rana Jawad for AFP, with thanks to WriterMom:

ISLAMABAD - Pakistani Islamic scholars honoured Osama bin Laden today in response to Britain’s knighthood for Salman Rushdie, as a senior ruling party member said he would not hesitate to kill the novelist.

Meanwhile the country’s religious affairs minister, who caused outrage by remarking that the award given to the "Satanic Verses" author justified suicide attacks, announced that he may visit Britain next month.

The Pakistani Ulema Council, a private body that claims to be the biggest of its kind in the country with 2,000 scholars, said it had given Bin Laden the title "Saifullah", or Sword of Allah, its top accolade.

"We are pleased to award the title of Saifullah to Osama bin Laden after the British government’s decision to bestow the title of ’Sir’ on blasphemer Rushdie," council chairman Maulana Tahir Ashrafi told AFP.

"This is the highest title for a Muslim warrior."

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We'll be waiting for him to collect it.

Don't they know that Bin Laden is innocent of 9-11? It was us Americans and the Joooooooz! Like the sign outside the Yiddish Butcher Shop says: "We slaughter ourselves everyday."

No matter how hard you try, and how much money you spend, it is impossible to solve a collective problem by going after individuals.

He must have woke up today on the Bin Laden side of the bed. As opposed to the Mossad conspiracy side.

"2,000 scholars"


....probably all males.....2,000 maybe...scholars...need futher information...

I nominate Bin Laden to the Supreme Mohammedan Order of the Righteous Phallus.

It may time to deliver it, due to Laden never sleeps in the same cave two nights running

Meanwhile the country’s religious affairs minister, who caused outrage by remarking that the award given to the "Satanic Verses" author justified suicide attacks, announced that he may visit Britain next month.
If Britain has any sanity left, it should deny him entry into the UK.

Saifullah is a perfectly appropriate title. While these circumcized pricks may not get this, it isn't exactly analogous to 'Sir'. But it is perfectly appropriate for Mohammedans.

Yeah, the awards ceremony would be interesting to watch.

LOL!!

OMG, they're acting like the dumb kid on the playground that everyone hates because he's always trying to one-up everyone else.

*sing song whiny voice* You gave RUSHDIE honors, well, we're gonna give BIN LADEN honors, so there! *sticks out tongue*

geez.

Can the muslim population honestly be SO CLUELESS as not realize they are the joke of the world?

Do they not understand that everyone is laughing at them? Do they not hear how childish and, yes, downright STUPID they are coming off as??

Everytime something like this happens to set off the seething and frothing of muslims, I laugh and laugh, because they look so ignorant and barbaric. And I hold out hope that ONE DAY the collective world will tire of how everyone needs to be so sensitive to the poor, pitiful muslim ego *cue the sound of a baby crying* or risk having them riot and seethe all over the place.

Mmm, the British people give a sir title to a great writer.
The Muslims honour a mass-murderer with the title of "sayfullislam – "sword of islam"

What can we learn about the differences between the two coltures… honoring a book writer vs. a mass murderer?

So in response to said award to bin laden, should we be doing somthing to "celebrate" like, I don't know, burn a pakistani flag (or embassy), hang bin laden in effigy (since we can't find the real thing)? Maybe a poster of sir Salman and a sign that reads "behead those that insult Sir Salman"?

This would be my first seethefest so a little guidance from veteran seethers would be a big help.

/sarc

At a more naive time in my life (like, 24 hours ago), I would have thought this award would go to a recipient because he did some good scholarship or something crazy like that.

But, no. It's just an attempt to annoy those whom the prize committee blames for their own bottomless frustration and the failures of their society.

I hope future recipients will appreciate just exactly how much their effor at legitimate scholarship is being recognized when they get this award.

Why not give him a position on the Pakistani Olympic basketball team?

It would make about as much sense, and cause pretty much the same amount of psychological pain and unintended amusement as this "scholarly" award.

"Islamic scholars honor Bin Laden in response to Rushdie knighthood"

Yep. Scholars. Grade 2.

Islamic scholars = military intellegence = jumbo shrimp = oxymoron
In order to have scholars (sic) you have to have schools, or am I missing something.

How many people did Rushdie have murdered again?...

Exactly!

What a bunch of lowlife Bastards !

Keep proving us right felleas , keep proving us right!

edit: Fellas ^^^and that's too kind a description for these swine. Ooops that's an insult to pigs everywhere. i'll have to think of a suitable title....

How bout MUSLIM!

So many keep telling me we aren't at war with the Muslim world and then I read this type of story.

Do I have to pass around the smelling salts or what?

Our 'scholarly' Islamic geniuses haven't quite figured out that Ousamah bin Laden has ALREADY been lionized by the world Islamic community and that this trump card has therefore ALREADY been played rendering their playing of it this time out absolutely, 100% useless.

If these bright Islamic scholars had really learned anything in their "studies" they would have been able to conceptualize that Muhammad + the Kuran + Islam = zero!

I congratulate Mr bin Laden for his award. I am sure it is richly deserved.

I can say for certain that his ennoblement will not be met with riots and calls for 'death to Pakistan'. Au contraire, I imagine that most sane, rational people will chuckle at the puerility of these 'scholarly' fools.

Vive la difference and all that.

Can we now move on? Or should we brace ourselves for some post-prayer violence tomorrow, as per usual?

I quote VOLTAIRE:

"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous."

Well, now we have "fast jihad", "slow jihad" and "stupid jihad".

Is it just the religion or is there something in the water over there?

I'm glad that the British had the guts to do what they did...

http://www.americanlegends.blogspot.com

JenBee wrote
"Do they not understand that everyone is laughing at them? Do they not hear how childish and, yes, downright STUPID they are coming off as??

Everytime something like this happens to set off the seething and frothing of muslims, I laugh and laugh, because they look so ignorant and barbaric."

And they issue fatwas against US for "slandering Islam". Makes you want to shout "Fatwa your own dern self, idiot! Fools like you make it sooo easy to mock Islam!"

So when are we going to hear the West's "moderate" Muslims denouce this absurd "honor" to bin Laden?

When is the West going to stop Pakistani immigration?

When are we going to admit who our enemies are, and really go after them?

I really think the Brits should be expressing a lot more outrage at the Paki Gov. and making consequences. They are doing little more than wimpering out "Gee, I'm sorry you're offended" while Pakistan continues to dump on them.

We won't hear from the "moderate" Muslims because their problems too well-frame the Islamists here in our own nations. PBS bans are a symptom of that censorship.

Run from the truth -- run, run, run away!

We live in countries that are well prepared to watch us play the victim over and over again while they attempt to find some diplomatic "solution" to the problem with Islam. Good luck, politicos.

Let's hope we survive the jackass appeasement long enough to gear for war.

Sword of Allah

The name of the 'award' kind of encapsulates the whole episode, wouldn't you say?

My most immediate thought on how to respond to this is to go to my favorite gun dealer and buy another thousand rounds of .223 for my AR-15. The danger is real and is clearly all around us.
If this is what the most revered of this "religions" spiritual leaders have to offer...then I truly believe we must prepare for war.
A Jew who survived the death camps said, "If someone tells you they are going to kill you...you should believe them." Since I'm not a Muslim, and never will be, I get the impression that that qualifies me for beheading.

So when are we going to hear the West's "moderate" Muslims denouce this absurd "honor" to bin Laden?

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We won't. plain and simple. Just like they don't REALLY ever speak up at all , unless they can't get a foor bath in an airport or one of their rowdy cohorts are causing a stink on a plane or in an airport and get treated accordingly. There really is no such thing as a Moderate Muslim, just Muslims . some speak louder than others but they all worship Allah and his insane prophet so i say to hell with anyone who subscribes to Mo's pyschopathic teachings and Examples. They only stand up for themselves and the rest of us be damned.

Mo Blows!

Why on earth would Allah The Head Honcho of The Religion of Peace need a sword?

These scholars got it all wrong, because they honored the wrong guy. Instead they should have honored Bush and his circle for helping the uptick in recruitement of figters in the Middle East. He is really brilliant.

"The Pakistani Ulema Council, a private body that claims to be the biggest of its kind in the country with 2,000 scholars, said it had given Bin Laden the title "Saifullah", or Sword of Allah, its top accolade. - JW"

Im waiting to hear Fartstanies explaining how they are spending my tax dollar to eradicate extremism?

OBL has replaced AK Khan as their number one hero. Wait a minute, are they going to put OBL under house of arrest to appease Bushies?

Im getting a little tired of them about jerking us around for a tedd-bit too long.

What exactly do they contribute here which they may think will benefit human kind? Got it... threats and more threats on people's life.

'The GOD' has great sense of humor. So he created Madman Mohd. 1600 years later, there are millions mad Mohamedians running around like worthless piece of s...

I believe that these scholars are taking the Koran out of context {sarcasm off}

I only hope that the MSM show this piece of news. It helps people to create awareness. Yesterday, I sent the link with Ayaan's address to journalists to friends, I received several replies with people telling me they read her book. People can come up to senses when exposed to the truth.

@progressive

George Bush is an idiot! He is such a fool that he actually believed that he could topple the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein and replace it with a modern democracy!!!!

What a fool!

You and I both know the Muslims can't live peacefully or democratically. Fighting and looting and killing for Jihad are a Muhammedan's modus operandi.

The 880 billion wasted on Arab Muslims in hopes of giving them a chance to live a decent life is money down the toilet. Arab Muslims can never live in peace either with others or even with themselves.

I'm sure George Bush now realizes that the Arab Muslim is an incorrigible savage that cannot coexist with humanity in peace and harmony. As the Bible pointed out: Ishamel is a wild ASS of a man who's hand is at this brother's throat."

Why didn't the Islamic scholars honor Tashbih Sayyed? He was a moderate Muslim who stood up and said that Islam should not be used to justify violence. That's honorable isn't it? That's worthy of accolades and praise, right?

Why didn't they honor Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who said that Islam must be reformed to end its religiously justified violence. You'd think the vast majority of moderates would be lining up behind her, shouting "You tell 'em, Ayaan!". They're lining up alright, but not behind her; and they're yelling very loudly, but their message is not one of moderation.

There are moderate Muslims and former-Muslims who have claimed that Islam is peaceful and that it is only being "hijacked" and "twisted" by a few misguided extremists. Why do the Islamic scholars put out fatwas calling for the murder of those moderate Muslims in the guise of blasphemy, and then give honors to Osama Bin Laden?

How can we not draw conclusions from that?

progessive, I am a progressive. I know many progressives. You sir, are no progressive.

You think that our criticism of the Bush administration for not making an intelligent and forceful response to the jihad is somehow related to your criticism of the Bush administration for not allowing the jihad to continue unfettered. They're not the same thing; they are the opposite thing, as will become clearer as time goes on. Stay tuned.

The CIA should come up with an appropriately decorative "sword" (with a GPS lo-jack device added) and have one of our operatives (who has infiltrated the madrassas in Pakistan) offer it to the loudest imam who wants to deliver it to OBL.

Such as:

http://www.bestbuywords.com/semaswexqu.html

Only $59.oo, on sale now!

Then have the Sword of Predator Drones deliver our ultimate honor:

The Wonderful Vaporization Accolade.

"Why do the Islamic scholars put out fatwas calling for the murder of those moderate Muslims in the guise of blasphemy, and then give honors to Osama Bin Laden?"
posted by special_guest

Because the muhammdans hear with their eyes and think with their feelings?

Because the muhammedans have been brainwashed to believe that a thieving, depraved murderer and fiend is the messenger of God????

Do you think even one of these outraged muhammedans has even read "Satanic Verses?"

profitsbeard, I like it.

Set a kneeling OBL before me, and give me a sword, and I would be happy to "knight" OBL. I'd give him so many "honors", he wouldn't know what to do with them.

Dropped and "s" in that link, it should be:

http://www.bestbuyswords.com/semaswexqu.html

special guest-

Double-edged ditto.

"He who lives by the sword..." as another prophet said.

Tell the Paki's, the Queen will knight bin laden, but he has to go to London to get it.

Sounder,

Osama has to contact the Brits himself. He needs to let them know he is willing to come and accept the honor before they offer it to him.

If anyone has Osama's cell phone number, please call Buckingham Palace. They would like to bestow a great honor on him. He will be super knight, but he has to accept the honor in person.

"Meanwhile the country’s religious affairs minister, who caused outrage by remarking that the award given to the "Satanic Verses" author justified suicide attacks, announced that he may visit Britain next month."
from the article

Did this minister inform the British? Will he consent to a strip search so they know he isn't doing what he says is justified - a suicide attack?

Sir Been Lousy, sound's good, how about Sir Zarqawi, or Sir Al-Sadr, I really like 'Sir Beasty Boy' in Iran. Let's make them all 'Knight's of the Cresent Table'. 'Sir Mohammad', ought to please even the most discriminating Mohammadan.

One must understand that these Muslim scholars are indeed true religious scholars, whose understanding of Islam is orthodox and thoroughly grounded in Islam's core beliefs and precepts, and whose actions are in accordance with these beliefs. We must continually remind ourselves of the following:

1. Islam obliges all members of the Umma to wage war against the infidel world, until the entire globe is under the sway of Islam and Shari'a law reigns supreme. Thus, all believing Muslims should be regarded as warriors, members of an advancing, inexorable army. To confer upon bin Laden, who has so distinguished himself by orchestrating the assault on infidel America, the title of "sword of Allah" is perfectly appropriate, as he has acted as a soldier of Allah should. Furthermore, he followed the proper protocol before attacking, the protocol followed by the Prophet himself, as he "invited" America to convert to Islam before attacking, forbearing to do so until it was clear that American would not acquiesce.

2. Islam, as the final revelation of Allah, supersedes all previous scripturally-based religions. It is a perfect religion, and the Koran must be accepted as the direct, uncorrupted word of Allah, fleshed out and clarified by Hadith and Sira. To criticize or reject any aspect of Islam, including the view that Muhammed is the Perfect Man, is to apostasize, and the penalty for apostasy is death. Thus, Rushdie, having questioned the inviolability of Muslim dogma, has apostasized. The fatwa sentencing him to death is entirely in keeping with orthodox Muslim jurisprudence. It is fully justified.

3. The only legitimate state is that which is based upon Shari'a law, which is Allah's law. Infidel England, with its constitutional monarchy, has no legitimacy for Muslims. And for the infidel sovereign of an infidel government to ennoble an apostate Muslim, and provide him sanctuary and protection from the fatwa issued against him calling for his rightful death, constitutes a grave insult to Islam, and is viewed additionally as an act which defies Islam since it prevents the implementation of Shari'a law; the sentence cannot be carried out. And that means that the advancement of Islam is being blocked, an act that cannot be tolerated, and must be avenged. It is Darura (necessity) that prevents full-scale war from being waged by the righteous members of the Umma against England, for England, alas, is too strong at this time for such a war from being successful. But there will and must be a future reckoning, as Muslims do not forget. And Rushdie, by accepting the knighthood from the infidel state of England, has once again apostasized, as he, by his acceptance, upholds and legitimizes the infidel, man-made government of this state. Is there any doubt that this man is a traitor to Islam, and deserving of death?

4. Muslims who are embarrassed or discomfited by all of this are not True Believers, but are in fact heterodox. Whether due to ignorance of Islam's core beliefs, or indifference, the secular members of Islam do not have a theological or juridical leg to stand on. For Islam is what it is, and the secular Muslims don't, in fact, count. They don't matter.

Remember what Ibn Warraq said: "There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate."

No, indeed.

I'm surprised Iran's supreme simian isn't throwing a fit over Bin Loser's award. After all, he's created even more trouble for the West and has had far less done to him in response. He probably should get at least an honorary award from the "scholars".

Does anyone really think this nightmare will ever end ??? 1.2 billion inbred, socially maladjusted and brainwashed religious whackos bent on some fantasy that their civilization is preferable to ours is pounding on all our doors and our leaders and most of the population have cheese stuck in their ears.

Nevermind the fact that their totalitarian utopian fantasy has no chance of working ever ever ever. It doesn't even work in their "test model" countries.

What will it take to end this onslaught ?? What will it take to end my fantasies of just f***ing exterminating the lot of these animals ?? Clearly words are not enough. They have repeatedly declared war on us and repeatedly committed acts of war on us and all we've done is send in several hundred thousand troops and hundreds of billions of dollars into 2 lousy dust bowls that these animals call "sacred land". And what do we get for our tax dollars ?? They launch attacks against us from our own countries. They chop off the heads of people we sent to cure them of diseases in their craphole countries. What will it take to end this nightmare ??

I wish I had my finger on the buttons and 22 minutes later we could kiss good-bye to the death cult known as islam. If people accuse me of mass murder and/or genocide - I'd say they are right - I was the one that did it - blame me - I'd do it gladly again and again until the plague of the 21st century was erradicated from the face of the Earth. I can only die once but everyday when I hear of yet another muslim atrocity I die a little inside. My rage grows and they will be made to account for their barbarism.

If the muslim nations of the world continue to walk the path of preaching their death cult they will be the bringers of their own destruction and they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Death to islam and nuts to what the politically correct "thinkers" (pushaw) opine. They can comment all they want in the free society left when the destruction of islam is complete. In case anyone hasn't noticed, we are at war so shut your cake holes and enjoy the smell of napalm in the morning.

KJ -

My sentiments exactly. Too bad many of our fellow Canadians don't seem to be getting the message.

One thing I really love about living in Nova Scotia - it's mighty white out here. No mosques in sight.

@KJ

The goddammned nightmare of Islam isn't just a plague of the 21st century. It's all in the Bible, predicted long ago. I totally identify with your post,but I would urge you to ponder that this evil is not just big, it's Biblical in scope. The blaspheming, god-murdering muslims are the force of the anti-Christ (see John 2:22)and the Beast is Islam. It will end, my friend, the way Biblical epics involving God's wrath end.

Screw swords! The head-chopping, hate-mongering muslims will be looking for trees and stones to tell them where the Jews are when the Children of Israel arrive in Atomically.

Atomic. Nuclear. Big Stuff!
Biblical.

Where are the formal protests by our US government at this Sword of Allah “honor” for bin Laden, tolerated by the Pakistani government, with clear calls for violence by at least one of its ministers? After all, bin Laden murdered over three thousand Americans on 9/11 and hundreds of Americans before.

I guess it is too much to expect from our alcohol brain-damaged president that he even be able to recognize an insult to Americans from these ”religion of peace” idiots.

Meanwhile, the British Gov., while effigies of the Queen are being burned, is probably still making whimpering appeasement noises for the Rushdie Knighthood and asking permission to get off its knee.

Where was their collective outrage on 9/11 after supposed radicals hijacked their religion of peace? All their tepid lip service against Islamic extremism was just that -- tepid lip service.

Their religion of peace cannot tolerate examination or criticism. Sir Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses expose again Islam's violent, murderous, malevolent hatred for all things not in submission to Islam.

Reminds me of trained pigs bowing to one another.