What is Israel getting in return? Nothing. What unilateral goodwill gesture have the Palestinians ever offered to Israel? They never have offered any goodwill gesture at all.
Wishful Thinking Update: Ehud "Crazy Eddie" Olmert is at it again: his policies are...insane.
"Israel announces mass prisoner release," by Amy Teibel for Associated Press:
SHARM EL-SHEIK, Egypt - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Monday he will release 250 Fatah members from Israeli prisons in a goodwill gesture aimed at strengthening Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas after Hamas' victory in Gaza.Olmert announced the prisoner release at a summit with Abbas and the leaders of Egypt and Jordan that the Arabs and Palestinians are hoping can push forward the peace process and strengthen Abbas' hand.
"As a gesture of good will towards the Palestinians, I will bring before the Israeli Cabinet a proposal to free 250 Fatah prisoners who do not have blood on their hands, after they sign a commitment not to return to violence," Olmert told the gathering.
They'll get a whole lot less than nothing in return Robert.Hasn't Israel, of all people. learned what happens when you give concessions to Islamists? I'm willing to bet that the parents of Gilad Shalit, Ehud Goldwasser and and Eldad Regev are mightily impressed.
I do believe Israel caving in! They have NOT even got their soldier back and they are already submissing! great....?
Israel actually will get something in return: 250 more blood-thirsty, Jew-hating, terrorists will be on the streets to kill and main innocent children, women, and men.
1944 insanity analogy-
"Today, the U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt announced he would release 250 kamakazi-trained pilots from POW camps in a good will measure towards the Japanese Empire. The pilots, captured from aircraft shot down at sea or from captured bases on land, don't have any blood on their hands and were to be released after they signed a commitment not to return to active military service."
Hmmmm...Just doesn't seem like it would have worked...
"Hmmmm...Just doesn't seem like it would have worked..."
Indeed it doesn't - if they were Kamikaze pilots, what were they doing in a POW camp? They can't have been too hot!
Only kidding, understood your point perfectly;)
If you don't have blood on your hands, how can you commit not to RETURN to violence?
Gestures should never be one sided.
[shakes head] Unbelievable.
[shakes head] Unbelievable.
Olmert, hate to say it; stupid!!! You should of demanded the realease of the Israeli soldier being held below you he believes Israel has deserted him and they HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greetings:
This release lunacy sends me back (mentally) to my infantry days.
The POW conundrum went something like this:
1) I don't ever want to fight someone twice;
2) POWs can be a source of information;
3) Capture, relocation and control of POWs present problems.
I'll do the math.
Greetings:
This release lunacy sends me back (mentally) to my infantry days.
The POW conundrum went something like this:
1) I don't ever want to fight someone twice;
2) POWs can be a source of information;
3) Capture, relocation and control of POWs present problems.
I'll do the math.
Posted by: 11B40 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2007 6:28 PM
Yeah, what he said.
It's now official: Olmert has lost all control of his mental faculties. Somebody drag this suicidal maniac away in a straitjacket before he gives the West Bank away for a song and a backrub.
Israel doesn't have a lotta room left for more goodwill gesture. It's been a half-century now. Not one goodwill gesture worked. Israel is now surrounded by openly Jihad war terror states, except for the suspicious Jordan, which seems to be a pass-through from now activist Iraq.
The ability of modern Jews to propagate Marxists will soon come into sharp conflict with Israel's gathering and gloomy reality.
Time is past for backpacks full of ideals; now is time for a pocket full of shells.
The Judeo-Nazi occupiers are being cute. what a nice occuppier: steals your land, kindnaps you for defending your land, then releases you as a goodwill gesture. huh
Israel doesn't have a lotta room left for more goodwill gesture. It's been a half-century now. Not one goodwill gesture worked. Israel is now surrounded by openly Jihad war terror states, except for the suspicious Jordan, which seems to be a pass-through from now activist Iraq.
The ability of modern Jews to propagate Marxists will soon come into sharp conflict with Israel's gathering and gloomy reality as far as its national security goes.
Time is past for backpacks full of ideals; now is time for a pockets full shells.
Israel doesn't have a lotta room left for more goodwill gesture. It's been a half-century now. Not one goodwill gesture worked. Israel is now surrounded by openly Jihad war terror states, except for the suspicious Jordan, which seems to be a pass-through from now activist Iraq.
The ability of modern Jews to propagate Marxists will soon come into sharp conflict with Israel's gathering and gloomy reality as far as its national security goes.
Time is past for backpacks full of ideals; now is time for a pockets full shells.
Israel doesn't have a lotta room left for more goodwill gesture. It's been a half-century now. Not one goodwill gesture worked. Israel is now surrounded by openly Jihad war terror states, except for the suspicious Jordan, which seems to be a pass-through from now activist Iraq.
The ability of modern Jews to propagate Marxists will soon come into sharp conflict with Israel's gathering and gloomy reality as far as its national security goes.
Time is past for backpacks full of ideals; now is time for a pockets full shells.
Israel doesn't have a lotta room left for more goodwill gesture. It's been a half-century now. Not one goodwill gesture worked. Israel is now surrounded by openly Jihad war terror states, except for the suspicious Jordan, which seems to be a pass-through from now activist Iraq.
The ability of modern Jews to propagate Marxists will soon come into sharp conflict with Israel's gathering and gloomy reality as far as its national security goes.
The time for backpacks full of ideals is past; now it is time for a pockets full shells.
Sorry. I hate that that anti-denial-of-service attack tool. Necessary, but poorly done.
Alarmed Pig Farmer said
Oh, so that's what that delay is about. Makes sense.
But, JW/DW, it would be better to disable the "Post" button the first time it is clicked, so that the article isn't posted multiple times. See here for a simple example.
There is no limit to what a fool is this Olmert.
What a tragedy not only for Israel but for the West.
The only good jihadi is a dead one.
What's the next "gesture" - vacate Jerusalem?
The Judeo-Nazi occupiers are being cute. what a nice occuppier: steals your land, kindnaps you for defending your land, then releases you as a goodwill gesture. huh
Posted by: progressive [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 25, 2007 8:13 PM
Another "progressive" that hates Jews but loves jihad
Olmert is weak.
"Progressive", go back to your looney left blogs, you shameful hypocrite. So its the "occupation" that bothers you? Liar. Its the existence of Israel. You know as well as I that the "occupation" came about because of
Arab wars to destroy Israel, and continues because the Palestinians and their Arab rejectionist supporters continue to stand for the destruction of Israel. Ask Bill Clinton. Ask Dennis Ross. But you "progressives" and your jihadist allies want a "judenrein" Middle East, or at least one where a remnant of Jews that survives the hoped-for murderous Arab onslought is permitted to live on as dhimmis. You are the true Nazis.
Well the real test is going to be when one of this guys comes back and explodes somthing.Real goodwill
will be Olmert releasing him with an apology. and some cash.........what a guy
I enjoyed reading "progressive's" Freudian slip in the post above:
"Kindnaps" is actually a more accurate description of Israel's treatment of detainees compared with the kidnapping (see any releases lately?) from the Islamists.
Olmert is a moron. The Arabs/Muslims want to totally destroy and slaughter the people of Israel, like Muslim armies have done with other nations in the past. Olmert needs to be declared a traitor to nation of Israel and thrown in one of those jails.
there is 1 thing u dont understand about olmert
he is "dead in the water" he has no public support whats or ever... 100% of the public wants him gone (not counting the crazy left oufourse) so he belives he have nothing to lose....
maybe his bullshit acts will get to peace maybe not, in any case it wont get worse than it allredy is.
why he remaints in power ?? his party and all his current supporters are afraid from election cause as is stands their power will be cut in half (at least) if election would be today thats why the oposition cant get 51% to kick him out.
but its not all bad in the long run, lately (last 10 years) israel belived that the time of convential war is over and its all "war on terrorists" from now on and our army's capability were degreaded greatly... for example the spec op's unit that was created to HUNT DOWN HIZOBLAH had NO TRAINING of HUNTING HIZBOLAH.... every1 were training to fight palestinians in (there is a major diffrents in fighting inside cities and inside the open field im sure u all understand)
so since last summer event's the idf took 180% turn and stocking up and training for round 2, wich now im sure will look much better for us.
in any case... olmert is gone what we see now is an desperate act with of a desperate man. and for any1 that dont know about israel's politics the next prime minister is netanyahu! simply cause there is no other valid alternative.
p.s
sorry for bad english, hope u got what i mean
progressive-
When are the islamic occupiers going to leave the occupied territories of:
EGYPT
JORDAN
SYRIA
ALGERIA
TUNISIA
MOROCCO
LIBYA
YEMEM
TURKEY
PAKISTAN
MALAYSIA
and
AFGHANISTAN.
None are origianlly Muslim countries.
How did they get there>
Israeli, at least, had returned to what was originally their homeland of Judea/Samaria.
If all Muslims return to their homeland of Saudi Arabia, I'm then all for the Israelis returning to the borders agreed on by the 1948 U.N. mandate/pre-1967 War.
Or do only Muslims get to keep the lands they "occupy" by force?
Tag and release...like biologists do to fish and turtles. Think satellite tracker. Think microchip.
Unhappily, the Israelis are PROBABLY too high-minded to think of this possibility...
But maybe the idea should be planted in the Muslim mind...that is, that their beloved jihadists released back to them from jail, may have been 'tagged' with a little beeper that is happily tracking somewhere on a Shin Bet computer screen.
I doubt the Jews would do it. But the Muslims would go crazy wondering if they had.
I know a guy who had to take the same mountain in Vietnam three times.
He was wounded each and every time. He is alive, he is a hero and lives in South Corea with 3 children and doesn't want to go back to the US.
If it had happened to me I would have shot the commanding officer.
There is no such thing as a Judeo Nazi, but there certainly may be Islamo Nazis...IN WWII, it was the Muslims who sided with the Nazis. It was the Muslims who worked along side the Nazis in designing and developing the concentration death camps...In fact, The Grand Mufti of Jeruselam wanted Hitler to deport the Jews to the Middle East where the Muslims would attack and kill the Jews...In Fact there were complete Muslim military units in the Nazi Army...An interesting video you can purchase from the History Channel (for about $25.00) is entitled "Sadaam Hussein and the Third Reich", it contains much historical videos of WWII showing the common union between the Nazis and the Muslims...In fact, throughout history the Muslims had sided with every despot and killer they could find...Yes, I do believe there are Islamo Nazis out there, perhaps "Progressive" is one...Islam is for losers, they prove it every day...
250 scumbags go free, and Gilad Shalit remains imprisoned. At the very least some attempt to negotiate an exchange could have been made. This is disgraceful. I look forward to see Olmert's already laughably pathetic approval rating sink even lower.