Jihadists claim to have seized CIA files

fatah is CIA? Oh now it all makes sense!

Lets just say I am glad I did not "collaborate" ..

Why - oh why - do our governments NOT take threats seriously? not take them at face value? not take the position of the people who make these threats seriously?

and then they "capture some files" - like when I found something when "dumpster diving" - but without the background to see this for what it is ...

.. but the files I found - in dumpsters and skips across a city with 8 million people and the services to match - still told me too much about our people, our information, our vulnerabilities ..

I was one of the "good guys" - but the "bad guys" have access to the same information as me

the hackers use the same techniques as "investigative journalists" who use the same techniques as "spies" or "hackers" or "citizen journalists" or whatever

SIGNOT: There is nothing new under the sun - and because of this I am living in a world of repeats, which repeat etc etc etc

LOL! Pulease, do you think the CIA would give Fatah "all our best secrets!"

Huh, maybe they would.

Bush-Rice team thought backing Fatah would please the Arab world--show it that America is even-handed?

Of course this could be BS. If CIA were to provide its network and plans for the entire ME to Fatah, then CIA is as idiotic as Bush-Rice team.

Hamas is intoxicated with victory. But the Israelis are singing a song: "I Can See Clearly Now."

Just left all those secret's in a secure undisclosed location where Hamas would be sure to find them.
Hmmm there is something wrong with this picture...

If it is true, then someone at the CIA should lose their job and be prosecuted for intentional national security negligence or stupidity, which ever is easier.

If it is a CIA set up then hopefully we loaded those files with alot of names so that they can go on a killing spree and take care of alot of people that we could not easily locate.

We will know real quick if the CIA denies the files but then starts meeting with the terrorist to negotiate.

Hogwash.

The US government has repeatedly stated over the years that its official policy is not to negotiate with terrorists. Egad, what a sick joke!!

I am willing to bet this incident really happened and HAMAS (al-qaeda) has documents on American strategies inthe Middle East. Washington has become too inept by far to believe otherwise. (We should err on the side of caution, which means we should believe this incident happened just to be safe).

The Reagan Administration had no problem negotiating with terrorists (with the Ayatollah Khomeini and his mullah-monsters, no less). The Clinton Administration did just that (with Arafat). The Bush(t) Administation did just that as we see here (FATAH is a terrorism organization that was begun by Arafat, modern terrorism's 'godfather').

Of course the US government lives in such denial that Islamic regimes are not terrorist but of course we all know that most of them are and they absolutely LIVE to stab the US in the back at the first opportunity to do so (like in this case). The US government probably believes its own verbiage that it does not deal with terrorists (but does, way too often).

If only the US State Department, CIA, and other branches of the US government actually LIVED UP to that policy of non-negotiation with terrorists. We would all be much better off. And, this unfortunate incident might never have happened.

Consider the source.

If they HAVE found CIA documents let's hope they read something like this :-

CIA TOPSECRET
EYES ONLY

Top CIA spies fully supporting the West while appearing to support Islam:-

1. Osama Bin Laden - CODENAME: Rubber Lipped Twt

2. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - CODENAME: Monkey Features

3. D'souza - CODENAME: Fckwit

Maybe Hamas could be tricked into taking care of a few idiots for the CIA. We can but hope :)

LMAO @ the islamist orgasmic reaction.

Did it ever occur to those neanderthals it may have been BAIT???
Does anyone really think the CIA would really leave anything REALLY sensitive to the "good graces" of such animals as fatah? LOL

Try something a little more realizstic:
History lesson, 1942:
"Have this sent to Midway as part of their 'housecleaning traffic', to be sent to us."
(that message reads: "We're having trouble with our fresh-water condensor, it's breaking down.")

Now, back to present, hearing implications of "we captured CIA documents!" "We know their secrets!" may as well have just read:
"durka durka! AF reports fresh-water condensor broke down!!!"

LOL @ naivete`...gotta love it!

CIA TOPSECRET
EYES ONLY

And Number Four is: (drum roll please)...

4. Ismail Haniyeh -- CodeName: Yassir'sBottomMan

Well said J.S. lol

I fear this is not merely a boast; yes, our leaders REALLY ARE that stupid!

History lesson, 1942:
"Have this sent to Midway as part of their 'housecleaning traffic', to be sent to us."
(that message reads: "We're having trouble with our fresh-water condensor, it's breaking down.")

Good point.

But that was 1942 when our leaders could identify the enemy; this is 2007 -- our leaders are clueless as to who is "the enemy."

Back then, we were fighting for survival; today, we are fighting to bring democracy to the world as well as the "rule of law" -- whatever that is supposed to mean.

It would be great if the CIA had let a big stinking pile of misinformation get "captured".

Looks as if we're finally gonna to find out who did the Kennedy's.

I don't believe it.Why would they keep files on ANYTHING in Palistine? It doesn't make sense.

They may have recovered some type of c.i.a. material but i can't see it being of whole mideast networks or plannings.That just doesn't make sense.

I highly doubt there would be any of this grand c.i.a. information without U.S. forces of some type to guard it.

I guess we will see,maybe hammas will post some video of it.

If they did get real important info maybe it's not at all a bad thing.Then The U.S would have to go to plan B because plan A has been really sucking anyway.

perhaps Hammas will find out how much money etc given to Abbas and his boys from the CIA. And if the CIA were smart enough disinformation will inside those files.

The Muslims found

5 issues of Hustler Magazine
3 issues of Mad Magazine
3 issues of Hot Rod Magazine
6 old love letters to girls found on the internet
7 fantasy art drawings by Rowena
3 issues of Pig Farmer Monthly
2 old letters from Harry Reid cussing out the local Military officer of the day...
2 decks of the old Iraqi most wanted cards
1 photo of Dubya standing on the aircraft carrier in front of the "mission accomplished" banner
1 Photo of Saddam Hussein with the target circle on his face
1 photo of Ahmadinejad shaking hands with Maliki with some moronic caption attached to it...
1 copy of the Tattoo Art magazine
1 copy of the Bible
1 copy of the Declaration of Independence
1 photo of Hanoi Jane with a banana in her ear
1 photo of Abu Al-Zaqarwi showing him burning his hand as he grabs the barrell of a hot machine gun...some one has scribbled in hahahahaha
3 heavy metal cds
1 copy of the magazine article " I was a Burka slave babe"
1 copy of the Islamic Gay Society magazine
15 photos of the Nazi holocaust death camps
and numberous other incriminating items...

Eventually our leadership in the West must either come to grips with the truth about the reliabilty of Muslims, or we will perish. Cases like this can serve as warning signs -- one hopes it sends shock waves through the intelligence community, shock waves which are too troubling to ignore by those in power.

If this is true it's both good and bad... I'm fairly confident these files are of somewhat limited scope if they exist. Still, their dissemination will cause serious damage, and many many deaths. But the bright side is this: We should not be sharing much intelligence with ANY Muslims ANYWHERE. Not those in the Middle East or other Islamic regions, and certainly not within our own military and political organizations in the West.

This is inevitable -- how else will the unpersuaded come to know what we know here at this site? They clearly aren't reading up on the behavior and beliefs of Muslims as enshrined within Islam. So it's the school of hard knocks for the West.

More terror. More spreading of Islam. More obfuscation. More subversion. More betrayals. More fragging of officers. More Muslim spies. More Muslim horrors. It's the only way for our slumbering society to wake up.

In the end the questions will be answered. Did we wake up in time? Did we wake up too late? Or did we not wake up at all? In the case of the latter two cases -- if we're too late, or if we don't wake up at all -- I must say sadly we deserve what the Muslims have in mind for us -- for we will have proven ourselves unworthy of the legacy our ancestors fought and died for. I hope we're not such terrible stewards of our legacy as we sometimes appear to be.

good one, Sarge!

Not even the wankers from the CIA would be dumb enough to store confidential documents with Pali-Arabs!

Give me a break!

If CIA were to provide its network and plans for the entire ME to Fatah, then CIA is as idiotic as Bush-Rice team.

Posted by: unicorns62000

Is there any doubt? I give you two words from the former head of the CIA: SLAM DUNK.

To call them idiotic is too kind.

Note to the Pentagon: Don't leave any weaponry behind in Iraq. None. Not for the nice "Iraqi" army and not for the nice "Iraqi" police. Not for the nice Sunni local army commander, whom some "counterinsurgency expert" is convinced is absolutely gunga-dinnishly true-blue, not for the "secular" Shia police captain who seems like such a swell fellow, and whose fervent and perhaps only desire is to get his three sons Green Cards for America, and how he hopes the American officers he has so carefully befriended will be able to swing it for him.

Nothing.

If these Hamas did find something as significant as the network details ( written down in Gaza ? ) then they're patently stupid for telling the world they have it.

I doubt they have anything of value because 1) it wouldn't be written down in Gaza 2) they wouldn't say they had it because it would be worthless at that point.

"Jihadists claim to have seized CIA files"

Yeah -- lets focus on the word "CLAIM" for a minute, ie, this has not been proven.

They're so full of BS! For one thing, our government isn't that inept; and secondly, why on earth would the "Jihadists" reveal that they've seized these files; wouldn't they want to keep such vital information on the low-down? Broadcasting this news would only serve to hurt their cause.

It's just another Muslim tactic to try and scare the crap out of us. I for one don't believe their bullshit.

Why should we believe anything a "Jihadist CLAIMS" anyway -- they're all liars unless proven otherwise.

Hugh-

A crate of vintage Blunderbusses might be apt.

(Although leaving rumors about pigfat on the cartridges might be excessive.)

witness-

The Soviets used to powder low-level radioactive isotopes on hotel doorknobs, etc. to track if the guests went anywhere inappropriate (dissent's apartment, etc.).

I would not be surprised if they Hamas boys really DID find something that looked like CIA files. As part of Bush's pathway to peace, we agreed to train the PA's security forces.

The training of the security forces was to be undertaken by the CIA, under George Tenent. We engaged in two or three rounds of this, along with the supply of weapons and etc.,

No doubt the PA kept records of attendees, dates and places of training sessions, transmittal letters for funds and material, course outlines, names of instructors, etc., etc.

CIA documents? Well, kinda. Secret? Well, not very, and certainly not now. Important? Only insofar as a testament to the futility of it all.

OK -- suppose they did find these files, so why would they disclose this to their enemy? Tactically speaking, this could not have been a very bright move.

Ah, for the good ole USSR! Back in those days, when someone accused you of being CIA because you knew something about some place outside the USA, you could say, "Don't worry, I'm with the GOOD guys--the KGB!"

Hamas is probably just resorting to the old familiar bugaboo of the Cold Wat era. You'd think they had a little more imagination; after all, they held that the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ bombed the WTC.

Those who couldn't get laid in TJ with a badge, a gun, a fistfull of c-notes, and a secret decoder ring?

http://www.yonitheblogger.com/2007/06/hamas_captures_cia_documents.html

Takbir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well it doesn't surprise me at all..... Our leadership right now is useless. Our El-Presidente is too busy trying to pacify Mexico and the Illegal Invaders to worry about some CIA operatives lives.

I mean really whats more important here?

Keeping cheap labor for rich business owners, or a few hundred agents lives who are working to protect western civilization? clearly you can see the difficulty. Sarcasm.

I wouldn't worry about any of this.

It's all part of Condoleeza Rice's "New Middle East."

We've got nukes in Iran, a quagmire in Iraq, an al-Qaeda sanctuary in Pakistan, a civil war in Palestine, a NATO war in Afghanistan, and al-Qaeda operating just about everywhere.

Condoleeza Rice welcomes you to the New Middle East.

Maybe the files were being stored there as part of an outsourced security contract- Heck if we can hand the ports of New York, Miami, Baltimore, etc over to Dubai why not let Fatah nold some CIA files. Its only paper- and they promised not to look...

Oh, thats were we left them.

Whew! Glad they were found!

Thanks for let'in us know!

The files.., they will see now Hamouse was not being ran properly! I'm sure they will create some new files! They are probably mad too because that tunnel did not reach Abbas!

> 1 copy of the magazine article " I was a Burka slave babe"
> 1 copy of the Islamic Gay Society magazine

ROTFLMAO

I couldn't believe that they were advertising a "Burka Sale" on TV in India one time I was there - so I went along ..

Imagine this huge supermarket type warehouse with trestle tables piled high in burkas that went from XXL to XXXXXXXL

I didn't try one on - so I can't say that they had separate changing rooms - but I guess if I had I would have caused a stir

you could have any colour you liked - as long as it was black (just kidding)

- but they didn't have burkas with Nike "swooshes" on the forehead - that will come in time - given the dhimiitude and money grasping attitudes of our leaders ...

dhimmitude + "branded burkas" == money

Jihadist Islamist whats the difference besides spelling? Ji-lamist! j-almist...

When Ahmajihadiknob and his pals took over the American Embassy in Tehran back in 1979, they claimed to find all sorts of CIA files. It was their bullshiite justification for what they had done.

It gets better.

U.S. contemplating more weapons to Palestinians

In the Palestinian security service building, Hamas found computer hard disks covering years of undercover activity and a complete set of sophisticated wiretapping and surveillance equipment and sensors which the CIA and MI6 gave Mahmoud Abbas and his forces. It was all in perfect condition ready to switch on.

After the Nazi regime was defeated at the end of World War II and Eastern Germany fell in the 1990s, there were officials willing to make a desperate effort to destroy or hide their intelligence treasure. Palestinian intelligence officers did not burn a single page.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4309

How stupid can they really be? Please, don't ask; you really DO NOT want to know.

Have they learned? Duhhhhhh, no; we want Israel to allow US to send in even MORE weapons.

STUPID A-HOLES! Why not just give Hamas control over Langly VA?

Huh?

What do you mean Rice is already negotiating that possibility!?

Whatever they got from captured files isn't what they hoped...if it was and could be of use, they wouldn't have advertised it-if it was and could destroy the US position in the eyes of the world it would have been front page news today...it wasn't.
The most sensitive stuff we have comes with the security clearance subtitle of "NOFORN"
That means "no foreign dissemination"-that includes not even to our allies (just as our allies have a similar security clause themselves).
What they got was already known stuff...and no surprise to anyone...along with bait, which they swallowed, hook line & sinker.

CIA, even with their cancerous PC infestations, isn't that stupid.

CIA, even with their cancerous PC infestations, isn't that stupid

Either, you personally have first hand knowledge of what was on those cd's; or you are an optomist.

I hope you are correct; but I really don't think so.

Maybe I'm punchy (it's 3:11 am), but when I saw the photo of Fatah-at-work, I burst out laughing. Could be I'm getting to a point where anything I see with masked faces looks staged. I wonder why they bother with that--no one is likely to know who they are, anyway. I guess it just looks menacing (or tries to look menacing).

I mean, they told the world about their treasure, and decided it was a Kodak moment?

LOL...

I'm almost certain whatever the CIA left behind was nothing but trash. I've seen it, where I work. The time rolls around when everyone is told to jettison the junk, and all kinds of irrelevant paperwork ends up in huge stainless steel "crates". Dig through it, and you're apt to find nothing any more useful than an old binder. Open the rings, dump the contents back into the crate, and you have a perfectly nice notebook.

It's amazing how much absolute trash a company or alphabet soup entity can generate. Too bad for the trees, though...

Okay, I'm wrong. Everything Hamas got was junk.

By all means, trust the judgement of the CIA operatives-- they never screw up; they never hire people except true Americans to work for the CIA; and those goofy stories you read about, where a bunch of terrorists who kidnap American soldiers in Iraq, and carried official looking documents while wearing real American uniforms -- all junk; never happened.

Couldn't happen in a gazillion years because the CIA and military intel is just too smart to let stuff like that happen.

Those dismembered bodies wearing American uniforms? Stage props with stage blood all over.

Might as well go back to sleep -- the CIA is the safest and most secure agency in history being flawless in every way.

Anyone who suggests otherwise is either stupid themselves, paranoid, or just nuts.