Why are British Christian churches funding mosques?
By Damian Thompson in the Telegraph, with thanks to K:
Why is the official body representing Britain’s Churches funding the activities of a radical mosque?Ihsan Mosque in Norwich posts some pretty strong stuff on its website, including an anonymous blog that sneers at “democracy’s decomposing entrails” and calls on Muslims to “anticipate and pursue the demons in our midst”.
But those demons presumably do not include the Churches’ Commission for Racial Justice, whose Racial Justice Fund subsidises children’s holiday activities run by the Ihsan Mosque.
Read it all, and follow the links.
I guess they see muslims as persons who really believe in something and support them for having an ethos. Hail fellow well met Good chap, nice to see you beleiving in something!
Why indeed? I cant imagine what some of the members think that their donations arent going to their church. I would quit if I was them. Find a church that supports Christianity, not Islam.
muhammad worshippers
It's been done in Germany too. A Catholic priest designated a Sunday mass collection for the local mosque.
http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/koeln_aid_50389.html
It's been done in Germany too. A Catholic priest designated a Sunday mass collection for the local mosque.
http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/koeln_aid_50389.html
Ha ha ha....Like turkeys voting for Thanksgiving! What a bunch of idiots. It's no wonder that with "leadership" like this, so many churches are empty.
"The second far more serious crime is the outright
defamation of the Prophet intended by that
representation."
http://www.muslimsofnorwich.org.uk/articlesinner.asp?ZZIS_InformationID=6525
This is what I don't get..
".defamation of the Prophet"..
The word
defamation means to
harm somebody's reputation: to attack somebody or somebody's reputation, character, or good name by making slanderous or libelous statements.
Slanderous means
saying of something false and damaging: the act or offense of saying something false or malicious that damages somebody's reputation.
Libelous means
constituting or containing a false published
statement that damages somebody's reputation...
So with that said...With all the TRUE sick-o stuff "Mo" has done, one needs only to tell the truth and that is enough to damage his reputation.
Word to The Wise Infidel: You Call Muhammad Violent, We Kill You!
Read it:
Under Islamic law defamation of the Prophet Muhammad is one of the worst crimes it is possible to commit and incurs the severest of penalties. It is, moreover, one of the few crimes in Islamic law, jurisdiction over which extends to non-muslims as well as Muslims. So under Islamic law a very specific crime has been committed. This is the sole basis of the Muslim response. It is not in any way an attempt on the part of the Mudslime to limit general freedom of expression. Nor is it a matter of "Muslim oversensitivity" which would suggest that Muslims, if only they were a little more mature, less touchy and more civilised, would take it in good part and swallow their feeling of offense. Surely the unprecendented universal condemnation expressed at every level of the Muslim community throughout the whole world must give intelligent non-muslims everywhere pause to think.
http://www.muslimsofnorwich.org.uk/articlesinner.asp?ZZIS_InformationID=6525
Surely the unprecendented violence expressed at every level of the Muslim community throughout the whole world must give intelligent non-muslims everywhere pause to reconsider their original offer of hospitality to this band of murderous cultists.
Come on guys! What do you expect a Racial Justice Fund be used for? I don’t blame the Church of England for this. However, I am deeply skeptical of the Church’s administration. The Church of England’s administration has been too much of a puppet of the secularist leaders in government, many of whom are gay and don’t wish the Church well.
"Why indeed? I cant imagine what some of the members think that their donations arent going to their church"
'cos the UK is inhabited by middle class idiots who control the press, the media and people's thoughts and actions. anyone steps out of their (the middle classes) idealological way of thinking is branded a racist and an extremist. the UK will suffer more before the people finally have had enough and put those bastards up against the wall.
Maybe they're warming up and getting used to paying the jizya tax. I imagine everywhere you look in Britain these days you must think you're in Islamabad.
I followed the links, and had a look at the Abdalhaqq Bewley article which has been quoted above. The "severest of penalties" for insulting the "prophet," he says? Yes, that means the death penalty for criticizing Muhammad, making cartoons, etc. It's a small world, too: Abdulhaqq's wife, Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley, has provided a translation of a book that includes discussion of the death penalty for blasphemy in Islam.
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec2.htm
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec1.htm
Muhammad Messenger of Allah: Ash-Shifa of Qadi ‘Iyad
Qadi ‘Iyad ibn Musa al-Yahsubi
Translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley
"Section Two. The proof of the necessity of killing anyone who curses the Prophet or finds fault with him"
Why are Christians funding Islam anywhere, when there are millions of Christians being persecuted by Islam around the world.
Why can't we Christians help our suffering brother Christians?
Christians are now being slaughtered in Iraq.
Ironically, Saddam Hussein employed Christians in his personal security services because they were trustworthy.
Now, those same Christian communities are being slaughtered and driven away.
Thank you, President Bush.
Please God, stop.
Stop the Christian investment in Islam.
Christ said we should love our enemies, but for God's sake, love the sinner but not the sin of Islam.
...I have not found one instance where Saudi Arabia or other Muslim government has funded a Christian Church in their country....Christians have no business funding Muslim Mosques...it is a sign of surrender...
Well, there's a precedent. After Enver Hoxha died and Albania's Communist regime went bellyup, Muslims and Christians in that country helped rebuild and reopen each others' places of worship.
Still, whereas the Albanians were probably congratulating each other over the fall of Communism, the English in this case are probably saying that they want their own culture to enjoy a decent burial.
Thank you...
"The majority of Albanians today, up to 75% of the population, are nonreligious. Nevertheless, despite such non-religiousity, most Albanians associated with a religion, to which the majority associated with Islam.[1] It is unclear how many practicing Muslims there are in Albania today, with estimates ranging from 21% to 70%"
....however, as in many areas, the more militant Muslims are forcing their way into the live of those less inclined to violence...
....The public outpouring of DUBYAs visit clearly shows the people desparately looking for a way to rid themselves of Islam, it is doubtful that DUBYA is willing to do anything provacative or inspiring....none the less, Islam is ruining their lives and they know it...
Islam is for losers....
“Like turkeys voting for Thanksgiving!”
Very well put! Why can’t Christians realize that they do not worship the same God? By such dhimmi acts as mosque funding they are unwittingly promoting a demon moon spirit manufactured by mohammed during one of his many hallucinations under a date palm 1500 years ago. In speaking of the obvious correlation between islam and ‘terrorist’ violence, I once ask the minister my former Christian church what his thoughts were on the matter. His horribly convoluted answer was that ‘while some of this religion’s followers commit violent and inexcusable acts’ he certainly ‘could not find any fault with nor condemn the religion of islam’ - the religion these violent people subscribe to. I rebutted by asking how he could possibly say this when our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ said in John 14:6: “I am THE way and THE light and NO ONE comes to the Father except THROUGH ME”? He had neither response nor the slightest affirmation to this key verse to which his supposed Christian faith is predicated and built upon! Though this poor man held the normal theological credentials of an ordained minister of what I thought to be a ‘conservative’ Christian church; his mind had non the less become poisoned with P.C. relativism and the ‘I’m ok – you’re ok’ thought process that paralyzes many into thinking that sound judgments simply cannot be made about virtually anything. That is that all is relative: Western Culture’ – Democratic Ideals – Morals - whatever! I have since moved on to a Christian congregation who truly believes the Word of God. There is indeed much to be believed in and a great deal to be yet saved in our culture – the culture of the Greeks, Romans, Byzantium, Charlemagne, Thomas Jefferson - if we only have the courage to discriminate, decide and, affirm ‘right from wrong – good from evil’. If not: we Westerners are indeed “like turkeys voting for Thanksgiving” before barbaric and advancing ‘religion’ that is able to decide.
This is why I am not involved in the "peace ad social justice" movement.
I agree with you brother descendantofacrusader. Really it all started in the 1970's, when the floodgates of hell were open to the West, and when coincidentally we had an oil crisis.
"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?"
Matt 7:15-16
I imagine everywhere you look in Britain these days you must think you're in Islamabad.
Posted by: The fanatic
Yep, that's about the size of it. I live in the UK, although you wouldn't recognise it as the UK anymore. I now have more mosques in my town than churches. You rarely hear English spoken on the street.