Rice on Iran: "The president has made clear that we are on a diplomatic course"

Oh dum de dum dum-its us "crazy" war mongering Americans who are to worried about, not the Iranians who are builded nuclear weapons and have stated clearly that Israel and the US should be wiped. Crazy is the new black. Let Condi play a concerto for the Mullahs and don her best Ferragamo shoes and neat suit.

Those who are threatened are now the "crazies" and those who do the theatening are to be innocent. This is the new order of things. Black is becoming white, good is becoming evil and vice versa.

And the non-islamic world is buying it!

In this game of chicken it appears G.W. is the loser.

I knew he did not have what it takes to do it. The Iranians no doubt have read the same thing. Warren Buffett always made investments by taking a deep look at who was in charge of the business his money was going to be invested in.

The Bush Co. is not a good investment.

two can play taquia, it does not only happen in the muslim word, speak softly and carry the big bomb stick.

George ibn George Bush wants to make nicey nice with the Iranians. And nicey nice to the illegal immigrants and their democratic promoters. And nicey nice to the millions of displaced Iraqis. And nicey nice to the whole world.

Heck of a guy. Great leader. Friend to one and all. A bridge builder, a consensus leader, a careful, sagacious, compassionate, POTUS with a magnificent legacy of foreign policy achievements to his name.

Ynkedoodl2 l will be interested in what you say about madame clinton as the next prez. pray we dont get to here what she will do as prez. lawyers will be busy in courts trying put trial these islmaist terrorists. yep no mo Gitmo for these sadistic bunch.. its in the coursts they go

ZenaWarriorPrincess

Sorry...either you have it or you don't. Bush is not a "go to guy" with the game on the line.

Choke! Choke!

:)

Ahmedinejad and Company is doing more to protect my family than President Bush. Ahmedinejad is forcing my government to name the enemy.

Thank you Mahmoud. Keep it up.

I don't like Mrs. Clinton. She's another one who is NEVER wrong. NEVER!!!!

She would be a disaster!

I'm looking for a republican to vote for but it won't be Rudy or McCain. I would vote for NEWT or Brownback...maybe Romney.

greatcometof1577
l dont think any one who sits in the president's chair has as much freedom to strike as you might think. there are so much constraints, and it seems each year its more difficult the GOP have to jump over higher each time, the libs demand it. but heck when they wanted to bomb the serbs no problem there. the libs have more restraints on any Republican president than they would if it were a Democrat president. l would think Guliani to be the best so far.

The U.S. is not preparing for war against Iran and Vice President Dick Cheney supports that policy, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says, taking a swipe at a U.N. official who says he's worried about "crazies" who want to start bombing.
"The president of the United States has made very clear what our policy is. That policy is supported by all the members of his Cabinet and by the vice president of the United States," Rice said Friday.

"The president has made clear that we are on a diplomatic course," she said in regard to U.S. opposition to Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Unfortunately we have risked it all in Iraq while severely compromising the agility of our Armed Forces to respond to other global threats. Maybe it is time to leave the region, albeit on a short term, to reconfigure strategy, regroup, and rest for the next phase of battle. Let the Iraqi's handle their quagmire.

We must remain fleet of foot in this struggle, something the insurgents have seemingly mastered. One thing is for sure, we ought not be affraid of collateral damage in this conflict, and we ought to use our air superiority to our advantage.

taqqiyyah baby!!....

ZenaWarriorPrincess

Excuses....Excuses....

:)

If you talk the talk you better walk the walk. Bush kept telling us how about the Axis of Evil and nuclear weapons in the hands of mad men are the doom of mankind.

Last time I looked one of them has them and the other is about to get them.

Ahmadinejad and Iran are calling our bluff and we got a crap hand called Iraq.

A not-very-intelligent, and very ignorant President, has been greatly impressed for a long time with a perfectly standard, slightly-above-average and certainly much-above-average in her presentation of self, adviser. She, in turn, is impressed by all sorts of people full of smart ideas about how to "deal" with this or that in Iraq, and not sufficiently able to stand back, use some time to acquaint, and more than acquaint, herself, with the immutable texts -- Qur'an (with an explanatory guide, and a guide to naskh as well), Hadith, and sira, and with commentaries by jurisconsults and historians -- and to study Jihad-conquest and the history of the treatment, over 1350 years, of non-Muslims under Muslim rule.

This she clearly has not done. On the other hand, she is sticking with that idiotic two-state solution, which of course is merely one attempt to "disaggregate" what some would see as local and specific grievances, failing to understand that all Msulim grievances everywhere are grievances based on what those Muslims see as the rights that Islam gives them, and the rights that Islam does not give to any non-Muslims anywhere. In an article today Diana West takes dead aim at one of Petraeus's "counterinsurgency" experts -- Lt. Col. Kilcullen, seconded from the army of Australia, and the recipient of a doctorate in anthropology, the "anthropoogy of Islamic societies" I gather. Spare us those with their One Bright Idea. Spare us the Galula-ites. Spare us the physically lean and impressive "military intellectuals" who work on Iraq, but fail to see that Islam is the point, Islam is the menace, and that the result in Iraq that America must work toward is not "disaggregation" (what a crazy idea, the very opposite of what the Infidels of this world need to do -- they need to make that connection between all the various local Jihads carried out by Muslims, both in Dar al-Islam and in Dar al-Harb). A little self-assurance, couched in that strine accent, perhaps even a Breaker-Morant hat -- and presto, you're off to the races with the impressionable likes of Condoleeza Rice.

Oh God. When will things start to be seen aright? When will those whose responsibility and duty it is to instruct themselves, so as better to protect us (and also to instruct us) rid themselves of Yesterday's Men who can't face up to finding out about Islam, or don't want to know because what they find out may be just too disturbing, and they haven't a clue as to what to do?

Those clues, as to what to do, have been set out, and in more than cluish detail, at this website.
A little trip through the Archives would do the men around Petraeus, or those who see the folly of continuing with Tarbaby Iraq but need more ammunition, good.

Tehran said they are thinking about it they would like maybe the northern part of Iraq! but, we will see. and Iran at the same time want Shia country in Iraq! Tehran didn't and wouldn't help us! I felt everyone would want a steak in it after we fought and died for it for the Iraqi's! They have been killing them-the Iraqi's! Why don't one of their own-Iraqi's kill sadr!?
Maybe Rice will outlaw us from saying bomb Iran!

If you talk the talk you better walk the walk. Bush kept telling us how about the Axis of Evil and nuclear weapons in the hands of mad men are the doom of mankind.

bush apparently has plans waiting in the wings in case something like an iranian nuke goes boom in the day

Last week, WND reported President Bush had signed May 9 a little-reported National Security and Homeland Security Directive (NSPD-51 and NSPD-20) that granted extraordinary powers to the president in the event of a declared national emergency, apparently without congressional approval or oversight.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55825

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

Houston-based KBR, formerly the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co., has a contingency contract in place with the Department of Homeland Security to construct detention facilities in the event of a national emergency.

Heck, if nothing happens the bush people will have a tidy nest egg thanks to the taxpayer money that goes into retainer part of this sweetheart deal.

Sections 23 and 24 of NSPD-51/HSPD-20 specify that Annex A and the classified Continuity Annexes are incorporated into the directive, even though they remain secret and are not available for examination as part of the published document.

On the other hand, if something does happen bush will be dictator for life.

Heads, bush wins; tails, we lose.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55923

People who say that we should bomb Iran don’t want to do what’s right for America!

/sarc

I wish we could impeach Bush and call a special election.

ZenaWarriorPrincess;

Rudy doesn’t support the 2nd amendment and I think we are entering times when the second amendment may save our country.

The first rule of fascism: disarm the population

"The United States does not rule out military action but says there is no plan or intention to attack Tehran."

I totally believe this!

If we do attack, I'm sure Bush will send boots on the ground with candy and hugs to hand out to "win the hearts and minds of the mullahs". Petraeous could even paint targets on the fronts and backs of our soldiers to make them seem even less "intimidating".

Could we please have a thread for NSPD-51/HSPD-20?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

The Titanic was on a course too....

...and while halliburton (say, aren't they in dubai these days?) is planning their detention facilities in the US in case of a "national emergency," bush and company are "manageing" the war
over there, so we don't have to fight them over here."

Sunday, May 27, US Secretary of state Condoleezza Rice and Turkish foreign minister Abdullah Gul discussed the possible outbreak of Turkish-Kurdish hostilities. Immediately after the conversation, the US military command began its preparations.

They packed their bags!

Washington decided its first priority must be to avoid a military clash between US forces stationed in Kurdistan and invading Turkish units. No time was lost.

You mean, we could get clobbered by our own allies?

May 30, US commanders and Barzani signed a document transferring security responsibility for the region from coalition forces to the Kurdish peshmerga.

So what about all that oil that was supposed to keep our prices low -- you mean we are surrendering those too?

American troops were hurriedly pulled out of the Kurdish towns of Irbil, Dohuk and Suleimaniyeh, but remain in force in and around Kirkkuk.

Wise choice, but it reminds me a little of the fall of Saigon.

Why is that?

OT:

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I'm sooo sick of Rice...

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/02/04/rice-lets-give-them-a-state-pali-arabs-we-dont-deserve-a-state/

"l would think Guliani to be the best so far."
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess

I would not agree now, as Rudy has ties to companys that are building the North American Super Highway, the one that is being built to connect Canada, and Mexico with the U.S., and paving the way for the North American Union.

The highway that is "A myth".

Tom T And Mitt R., any way they can get the job.

Personally I’m leaning towards Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter.

While not against the 2nd amendment, I have chosen not to purchase a firearm. However, given the circmstances of today, the option of purchasing firearms for protection/defense is looking more attractive, if even just to exercise my right to bear arms.

A short message to jihaddists:

DON'T TREAT ON ME or I will put your teeth to the curb and stomp on your head. Then I will pump two caps between your stinking muslim eyes. Then I will stuff your mouth with a nice Virginia ham, and wash it down with a 5th of Dewars.

Triphammer

Just like Chamberlain, "peace in our time"
Wake up Condi, you are in a dangerous dreamland

Ahhh... GW, GW, GW ...

Now's no time to go all wobbly.

And I had had such confidence in Condi.

Ah well.

"taking a swipe at a U.N. official who says he's worried about "crazies" who want to start bombing."

Wait, is the U.N. Official worried about the crazies in the White House who may order bombing of Iran, or is he worried about the "crazies" who have done bombing in Madrid and London and Mumbai and Bali and Casablanca and other countless places around the world??? Or what about the crazies that turned planes into missles and attacked The United States of America? Oh wait! Those aren't crazies, they are following a clear logic in their methods. Silly me.

"Rudy doesn’t support the 2nd amendment and I think we are entering times when the second amendment may save our country."

Now wait just a second... Has Rudy ever come out and said he is against the right of the people to keep and bear arms? I know he is pro-gun control, but that is not the same as "not supporting the 2nd amendment. Let us not throw around false accusations here.

The captain of the Titanic stayed on the same course also.

Condi should of made some kind of referrence as to 'where are our soldiers and Israel's and the 5 hostages you have?'

Rice is so smart I wonder what she really thinks?

"I know he [Rudy] is pro-gun control, but..." -ThinkForYourself

That is why, IMO, Rudy is not a supporter of the 2nd amendment. McCain is also weak on the issue, and I think he’ll compromise anything away. Romney was against the 2nd amendment before he was for it. That doesn’t count either, IMO, even though he does seem trustworthy. I like Romney, but I’ll only vote for him as a lesser of two evils, figuratively speaking.

I should point out that I’m basing my opinion about Rudy on the fact that he has so far been elusive and defensive when answering questions on the topic. I don’t know the details of Rudy’s background, but elusiveness is not what I want to hear about the second amendment.

"new crazies who say 'let's go and bomb Iran.'"

It's crazy not to!!

Specifically, we need to bomb their NPP. We need to go in and take out their nuclear-power-plants NOW before it's too late!!

Rice -- if you're listening -- you are killing us!

IT'S ALL ABOUT IRAN

A DRAMATIC NEW APPROACH TO IRAN

We need to deal with Iran now otherwise the US could be left at one minute to midnight with no other option but to attack Iran. The longer the US waits to impose a meaningful sanction regime against Iran, the greater the necessity of military action will become - with all the potential disastrous political and economic consequences for both parties.

THE REALITY IS THE US DOES NOT NEED CHINA OR RUSSIA TO INPOSE SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN. THE US CAN IMPOSE DEVASTATING RECIPROCAL SANCTIONS

Least we all forget one of the main reasons for the Iraq war was that China, Germany, Russia and France had been bought off by Saddem through the UN Oil for Food program. It is hard to believe that these countries by their present actions are again moving us in the direction of war with Iran. By their greed, they are totally blind to the very real danger Iran poses to the entire Middle East. There is an impending political and military catastrophe facing America, Europe, China and the World in the Middle East. This catastrophe will lead to a disastrous disruption of oil supplies that will force oil prices to $10.00/$20.00/gallon and throw the world economy into a massive recession affecting all world economies epically the developing economies of China and India. This could cause political instability on a world wide scale. The reality of the situation is that you can talk with the Iranian leadership until you are blue in the face - AND NOTHING WILL BE ACHIEVED. Iran is marching forward to obtaining a nuclear weapon and will not be stopped with endless talk. TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.

The United States is engaged in a Life and Death Struggle for its national survival. Islamic Fundamentalists, Iran and want to inflict a mortal wound. The United States faces the greatest strategic defeat in its national history.

As described in this article - if the US is forced out of Iraq the following disaster will ensue.

1. The Iraqi government immediately collapses.
All Iraqis who supported the Government and US flee the country by the hundreds of thousands.

2. Iran immediately steps into the power vacuum supporting the seizure of Baghdad by their radical Shiite militia allies.

3. A radical Shiite Islamic government is imposed on Iraq.

4. A podium against the Sunnis begins with millions killed. The survivors are driven out of the country.

5. One million Hezbollah style fighters are enlisted into the radical Shiite Militias. (If Hezbollah can muster an army of fifty thousand fighters from a Lebanese population of 1.5 million Shiites - then in Iraq a Hezbollah style government would create an army of one million Shiite fanatics.)

6. This force in alliance with the Iranian army captures Riyadh within weeks and seizes the Gulf States.

7. They then march into Jordon creating a Shiite Crescent stretching from Iran to the Suez Canal and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Russian Cossacks.

8. As previously mentioned - with 80% of the world's oil, under Iran's control the price will soar to $10.00/20.00 per gallon.

9. Israel is attacked with rockets on all sides effectively shutting down the Israeli economy and destroying the Jewish state.

10. After obtaining nuclear weapons, Iran unleashes terrorist forces worldwide attacking Europe and the US.

11. These terrorists smuggle nuclear weapons into London, Paris, Washington, New York and kill millions.

This nightmare does not have to happen.

TOUGH LOVE AND IRAN

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Supreme ruling Alloyatolls see the 21st century not as the century of the rise of China or India but as the century of the Great Shiite Revival - the Rise of the Shiites. After 1400 years of Sunni domination and oppression, they see Sunni dominance not only in the Middle East but over Islam itself coming to an end.

Ahamadinejad wants to establish a Great Shiite Persian Empire stretching from Tehran to the Red Sea and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Caucasus regions of Russia, to the very borders of China - incorporating all the Gulf States, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, Syria, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan, under the direct control or controlled as vassal states by Iran. This empire would directly control 80% of the entire world oil supply. Iran is a mortal threat not only to Israel but to all the Sunni Arab States. Only the might of the United States stands in the way of this Great Imperial Dream.

There is the saying "When times get tough - the tough get going." Unfortunately at this moment - with the total lack of any kind of Western Leadership, this saying has been replaced by "When times get tough - the tough get talking and talking and talking." In the West talking has become a form of appeasement - a way to show that action is being taken - that the tough Western dudes are beating up on Ahmadinejad, when in reality we're getting our clocks cleaned. Ahmadinejad is going for the Great World Political Poker Championship jackpot with a pair of deuces. Everyone sitting at the game knows that all he has to play is a pair of twos and nobody is calling his hand. Its time to stop playing pocket polo. Its time to call his bluff with our 8 pairs of aces.

Just as the CIA, MI5, French Secret Service, the KGB, all the world's secret services, even Iraqi generals thought that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction when we now know he had none - grossly overestimated Iraq's nuclear capabilities to say the least, so too with regard to Iran - all these agencies could be grossly underestimating the Iranian Nuclear Program. The United States does not want to be placed in a position of Iran being months away from going nuclear and forced to face the very harsh reality of attacking Iran. Where force is the only option left. A Tough Love Sanctions Regime must be immediately imposed on Iran. Time for talking at the UN is over. IT'S TIME FOR TOUGH LOVE IRANIAN STYLE.

TOUGH LOVE IRANIAN SANCTIONS

The United States with or without EU support immediately imposes economic and political sanctions against Iran. The sanction regime is divided into 4 parts - Defcom 1 to Defcom 4 with each phase commencing every 30 days and staying in effect until the crisis is resolved. Within the space of 4 months Iran will be under total world wide devastating economic sanctions. ANY INDIVIDUAL, CORPORATION, COUNTRY THAT DISOBEYS ANY PART OF THE SANCTION REGIME - THEN THE TOTALITY OF THE ENTIRE SANCTION REGIME IMMEDIATELY APPLIES TO THEM.

DEFCON 1 SANCTIONS

Under Defcon 1 sanctions Iran is immediately hit with the following measures:

1. The cutting off of all military and nuclear technology, materials, training, building including the Bushehr nuclear power plant being built by the Russians.

2. The suspension of all flights - both private and commercial aircraft in or out of Iran.

3. The worldwide banning of all Iranian passports.

4. Severing all banking relationships between all Iranian Government agencies/officials/organizations, banks, companies, front companies with the entire world banking community.

5. The freezing of all Iranian assets throughout the world including all assets of Iranian Government, Iranian companies, front companies, government officials/organizations.

DEFCON 2

In 30 days, if Iran refuses to stop all uranium enrichment and sit down at the table in good faith then the imposition of the following Defcon 2 Sanctions:

1. The immediate stoppage of all forms of transportation coming in or out of Iran including, buses, automobiles, boats. Only oil tankers would be exempt.

2. Cutting off of all satellite signals, phone lines, internet connections, electricity etc.

3. The complete closure of all border crossings to Iran.

4. The complete shutting down of all economic activity/trade with the outside world except for the importation of gasoline into Iran and the export of oil and gas out of Iran.

DEFCON 3

Thirty days after the imposition of Defcon 2 sanctions, the start of Defcon 3:

1. The importation of gasoline into Iran to be ceased by all countries, companies and individuals.

DEFCON 4

120 days after the start of the first sanction regime - Defcon 4 - the stoppage of all payments for Iranian oil and gas exports - NOT THE STOPPAGE OF THE EXPORT OF IRANIAN OIL AND GAS. JUST THE PAYMENTS FOR THESE PRODUCTS.

Iran can export oil and gas to China etc but the Chinese and other countries can not send money or any other financial instruments to Iran. In short - the oil/gas flows out but no money flows in. If Iran decides to stop the export of oil to certain countries but not to others like China, then under this sanction regime all countries including China must help the affected country or countries. In short, share the pain of oil shortages. If any country refuses to cooperate then the totality of these sanctions will be imposed immediately on them

DEFCON 5

The bombing of Iranian nuclear facilities.

DEFCON 6

The invasion of Iran.

Any force against Iran must be as a last resort. This includes any naval blockade. These are measures to be used only if and when Iran is on the verge of getting a bomb.

Again, if any country, company, or individual chooses to disobey these sanctions then THE TOTALITY OF THE SANCTIONS IMMEDIATELY APPLIES TO THEM. For example, if China decides to continue trading with Iran then all trade between China and ALL countries, companies, individuals immediately ceases. All Chinese container ships on their way to the US or any other country must be turned back. All international flights in or out of China cease. All Chinese passports to be null and void etc. If any country decides to continue to trade with China then the totality of the sanctions immediately applies to them. And so on.

This sanction regime is absolutely devastating. Having these sanctions apply to any country who decides to ignore them will totally devastate that countries economy. THIS LINKAGE GIVES THESE SANCTIONS TOUGH LOVE FURIOUS TEETH.

The smile/smirk on Ahmadinejad's face will be wiped clean. Most important - the flow of oil does not stop unless Iran chooses to stop it. Only the money flow stops. By not cutting off the oil/gas flow Iran is faced with a dilemma. If it decides to stop the export of these commodities then Iran will definitely lose the support of its two closest allies - Russia/China. These reciprocal sanctions give cover to the EU, Russia and China who can claim to Iran that this situation is not their fault - they have no choice - it is the big, bad USA. The oil gets shipped and the buyer countries send the payments for Iran to a UN trust account until an agreement has been reached. If however Iran resorts to acts of force/ terrorism etc or actually builds a nuclear device then all accumulated monies are immediately forfeited.

Before these sanctions are imposed as a last ditch effort Condoleezza Rice travels to Tehran to speak directly to the Iranian people in a nation wide TV address. This address would be a direct response to the letter Ahmadinejad sent to President Bush months ago. In this speech, she lays it all on the table. The fact that the US does not oppose a peaceful nuclear program. That Ahmadinejad and the Alloyatolls desperately want nuclear weapons. They dream of a Persian Empire. That the acquiring of these weapons will lead to economic chaos for Iran, the destabilization of the entire Middle East, a devastating Sunni/Shiite war and a nuclear war in the Middle East with the complete destruction of Iran. Their cities destroyed. Their families killed. The end of all Iranian history forever. Ms Rice will offer them a different vision of their future. A Security alliance with guarantees backed by their Arab neighbors (and the United States.) The termination of all sanctions. Investments for economic development. A vision of the peaceful rise of Iran as a true partner of the Middle East nations (and the West.) The creation with Iran as the most prominent member of a NAFTA style Middle East Free Trade Zone stretching from Tehran to Algeria leading to an economic renaissance of the entire Middle East. A 21st century version of the rise of China and India. Eventually joining this free trade zone to the EU and NAFTA - a 3 billion market. Such a rise will give back to Middle Easterners their historical pride. And finally bring peace to their troubled countries.

Written By,

Larry Houle
E-mail: intermedusa@yahoo.com
www.iran democracy.net

At first, I thought Bush's tough words on the American hostages meant tough policy, but then Condi came along to disabuse us of that notion.
Condi is in love with diplomacy as an end in itself.

"Peace in our time" said Neville Chamberlain as he stepped out of the plane.
Any famous words from Condi?