More doctors who kill -- paging Dr. Kevorkian. This from John Steel for the Telegraph:
A group of 45 Muslim doctors threatened to use car bombs and rocket grenades in terrorist attacks in the United States during discussions on an extremist internet chat site.Police found details of the discussions on a site run by one of a three-strong "cyber-terrorist" gang.
They were discovered at the home of Younis Tsouli, 23, Woolwich Crown Court in south-east London heard.
One message read: "We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America.
Whatever happened to the Hippocratic Oath? Rest assured, I will not be seeing an Islamic doctor any time soon. I will take the witchdoctor any day.
"The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy." This is thought to have been a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida. The message discussed targets at the base, adding: "These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units."It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.
Doctors are now filling the ranks of the Islamic Vice Squad. Still think it prudent to sponsor exchange student programs for the "gifted" Muslim?
Investigators have found no link between the Tsouli chat room and the group of doctors and medics currently in custody over attempted car bomb attacks in London and Glasgow.The three "cyber terrorists" - a British national and two who had been given the right to live in Britain - are facing lengthy jail sentences after admitting using the internet to spread al-Qa'eda propaganda inciting Muslims to a violent holy war and to murder non-believers.
They had close links with al-Qa'eda in Iraq and believed they had to fight jihad against a global conspiracy by kuffars, or non-believers, to wipe out Islam.
Al-Qaeda promised action this summer. It looks like they are trying to stick to their word.
Crossposted from The American Israeli Patriot.
"Hypocritical oath" more like.. thanks to Hawkeye..
Extradite them to the US, execute them, and then give them a fair trial. In that order.
"We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America."
And that, jihad boy, will be the end of Islam in the U.S. That will unleash Islam's final day in this country.
When is this country going to wake up and STOP ALL MUSLIMS from coming in? It is just a mater of time before the car bombs and other benifits of the Islamic religion of peace are here.
They're here and already at work.
See here: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/07/i_told_you_so_t.html#comments
and here (copy the entire link and paste it into your browser):
http://www.whokilledja.com/Who Killed JA/Sometimes Physicians And Other Sick Care Workers May Behave Differently From What You Expect.htm
and here:
http://www.WhoKilledJA.com
oh yes, more Dinesh D'Souza "traditional muslims" driven to murderous behaviour by Britney Spears - or maybe "Posh Spice", or due to being "marginalized" by and within Western Culture ...
As to the Hippocratic Oath:
The Oath of a Muslim Physician is clearly different from the others and suggests more than a simple disregard for a non-binding, infidel oath. It arguably allows (encourages?) them to kill (essentially) infidels and is based, in part, on "the historical...writings of physicians of (the) Islamic World," not necessarily new concepts.
This is from WhoKilledJA.com (quoting IMANA):
As IMANA states, "'This medical oath [which] is a composite from the historical and contemporary writings of physicians of (the) Islamic World.' The Oath would appear to be merely a reduction to writing while the concepts comprised by it were in play well before 1977 and wider spread in the Muslim world thereby providing justification for a sick care outcome different from that a patient might desire."
See here: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/07/i_told_you_so_t.html#comments
and here (copy the entire link and paste it into your browser):
http://www.whokilledja.com/Who Killed JA/Sometimes Physicians And Other Sick Care Workers May Behave Differently From What You Expect.htm
and here:
http://www.WhoKilledJA.com
I wonder if one of these doctors is Progressive's physician. :-)
"These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units."
Is this so they can get their pre-Jihad lap dance?
The reason why people do crazy things like blow themselves up and murder other people is because they lack educational opportunites and employment. Poverty, only breeds crime.
One message read: "We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America.
In any case, with the tight security measures that have been enacted since 9/11, no muslim extremist would think about getting access to any of our military facilities for example, especially in the US. Those sorts of things can ONLY happen in places like iraq.
"The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy."
This is thought to have been a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida.
Besides, as everyone knows, muslims enter into the US because they love democracy and the opportunites we offer everyone; they come here only because they love this country and are only here to work at jobs that Americans don't do or are too stupid to do.
The message discussed targets at the base, adding: "These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units."
It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.
The fact is that we need doctors from muslim countries because there are no American doctors that have their particular skill-sets that are so desparated required for the advanced level of care and cutting edge technology we need today.
The three "cyber terrorists" - a British national and two who had been given the right to live in Britain - are facing lengthy jail sentences after admitting using the internet to spread al-Qa'eda propaganda inciting Muslims to a violent holy war and to murder non-believers.
The only reason why we would not hire muslim doctors is because of racism and bigotry and the irrational fear that all muslims are terrorists or religous crazies. Only right-wing-nut-jobs believe in these silly conspiracy theories.
They had close links with al-Qa'eda in Iraq and believed they had to fight jihad against a global conspiracy by kuffars, or non-believers, to wipe out Islam.
" Still think it prudent to sponsor exchange student programs for the "gifted" Muslim?"
....some of you may have read my frequent comment "Ban Muslim Immigration", I have repeated this many times and I feel it is necessary to at least slow down the Jihad manpower base....Ban Muslim Immigration....a decision whose time has come....
Are they killing patients too?
I am not worried about Dr. Kevorkian.
He should have never been incarcerated. To compare him with the Islamic jihad that put us on the defence over 1400 years is an insult to anyones intelligence.
Like it or not: What Dr. Kevorkian did is also about FREEDOM.
If you take issue with what he did YOU area also hypocritters:
It doesn't work like that. In a free society I also have the right to die regardless of YOUR religious considerations.
Hiring Muslim Doctors educated in Pakistan or another Islamic country does seem rather unwise it has to be said. All of those involved in the latest UK plot are from the medical profession.
"...and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades...."
....in Jacksonville, Florida, you can easily cruise past oil/gas storage tanks in a small boat and get within RPG range....Once, a few short years ago a small explosion set fire to one of these mammoth storage tanks...it took well over a month to put the fire out...the firemen continually poured foam over the burning tank...the foam did not put the fire out, but it did keep the fire from spreading to the surrounding tanks....blowing up these tanks would kill only a small number of employees, but would put a crimp on the availiablity of gas and oil in a large city....
....Mayport is the home of three aircraft carriers and a large number of other naval combat and support ships....
.....on any given day these ships come and go....just offshore , on any given day, there will be numberous small fishing vessels....Remember the USS COLE...a small fast boat with explosives can cripple a large ship....it is unlikely the ship would be sunk, but the turmoil created would create waves....
.....As the large carriers come and go they are protected by numerous Coast Guard and Navy patrol craft and by helicopters and fighter jets...when small boats get too close to the big ships, the patrol boats chase away the approaching boats...
...If the small boat refuses to retreat...then they are subject to attack....and in todays world, the small boat captain would be wise to turn away....
Sheik -
"Don't go trippin' on your underwear," as my Dad would say. It's okay!
The reference to Kevorkian was only a joke, and quite funny actually...especially the paging part, but hey, that's just me.
But as you can tell, sometimes Robert has to make a stretch to compare, since we really don't have anyone else in Western societies with those kind of credentials.
I totally agree with you, as long as there's documented proof you chose it (as in a video while you're still lucid enough to decide).
Excuse me...Robert, et al, have to make a stretch. Sorry Jay!
"a British national and two who had been given the right to live in Britain"
What's this about? Is it non-PC to say "immigrants" or "naturalized citizens", now? Or, is the writer of the article trying to avoid the new craze for "Asians" as a description for terrorists?
And: "clubs for naked women"
Another clumsy phrase, suggesting that the club is a place for female nudists to socialize.
Imagine having an obviously Jewish first and last name, especially one of significance, like Cohen, and waking up in the ER to see one or more somalis with their jawbone beards and empty, soulless thousand-mile stares.
Or, just showing up at the local university medical center for a CAT scan with dye. He's controlling the radiation, he prepared the solution coursing through your veins, he's telling you to "breathe in, hold, breathe out"...
Some have been dealing with this threat for YEARS...
"We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America."
And that, jihad boy, will be the end of Islam in the U.S. That will unleash Islam's final day in this country.
Posted by: Prickzilla
9/11 should have taken care of that.
There are more reasons to avoid muhammedan physicians. From Maverick News Media: The Muslim Hippocratic Oath and 'affirmative action, Israeli style'
OT - as posted in the comments section at Debbie Schlussel's blog:
I wonder which countries they recruit from.
Bring it, Dr Boys! Just once in my life I would like to beat-up an educated man, I am so tired of conking ignorant men on the top of their heads. I wonder if these Drs. still have a soft spot up there. Just wondering...
Why are all these Muslim Mengeles in the West anyway? Don't they know they're needed in the ummah, where life expectancy rates are lower? No-it's preferable to kill infidels rather than to improve the lives of their brothers. What a totally disgusting bunch. One of these days we will see stories about people actually being injected with poisons and diseases by these "doctors" and unlike those tales of Jewish doctors doing this to the peaceful ones these stories will be all too real.
justamomof4,
Thanks for the link to Debbie Schlussel. I'm an IT professional in NJ and someone I know is trying to take legal actions against people who openly solicit non-citizens. Most are more subtle than this guy. They list lots of qualifications that no one person is likely to have and then, when "they can't find an American to do the job", bring them in from overseas. Most are from India, though. And more often than not, they're Hindu. Most foreign IT workers come into the US through a handful of Indian companies.
Do Muslim doctors refuse to treat non-believers, the way Muslim cabdrivers refuse to serve someone who is carrying alcohol?
PMK: What if the ill person has been ill due to alcohol poisoning or had to have his stomach pumped and if he was surrounded by Muslim doctors.
A: They should help all humans are equal?
B: Do not help; maybe he will die in his own vomit the sinner?
Unlike Jesus he welcomed sinners are they are the ones who need help, not Muhammad’s way that cuts your head because he is so superior and became a Muslim before you did. Maybe not all Muslims are like this but why so many fall into this way of thinking no other religion does out side Satanism, sacrifice to the Gods, hard to tell who the pagans are these days.
Also those doctors who orchestrated the London car bombs are not as cleaver as they seem. Those canisters need extreme heat to blow up, and one was a genius? I think he should read Shakespeare or throw the Koran its for their best interest.
Also why is the UK so dumb in letting people in from Iraq that we know we are still at war with? If conspiracies are true then the government who are Biblically blind and maybe dark forced inspired are part of the same satanic cloud that creates the problem only for us people to agree on handing over our freedoms so that one day as the Book of Revelations warn, the earth will bow down to an anti-Christ system, where the next step will be ID cards and like cattle we will be marked and tracked. There are two systems at play here and the bad is using the badder to get evil.
PMK,
let us not convert this issue into anti outsourcing one. You sure will not like me posting against americans working in IT in US. I have a long list of complaints against them and I can understand why every IT company prefers to hire indians over them.
Tambi Dude,
Don't be so sensitive. I didn't bring up outsourcing. Don't pin this PC rap on me.
The person who showed us the ad was talking about people coming here to work, not jobs going overseas. He also wondered which countries they recruit from. I felt it important for people to realize that IT workers in the US should not be considered a jihad threat.
What's your problem? Did I hit a nerve?
This would be the other loophole in our immigration process.....the allowing of educated, highly trained immigrants.
PMK,
Yes I am bit sensitive to it because I have seen some bangalored folks in US take their hatred against indians on h1, in fact against all indians, just because their american dream got downgraded into an african dream due to outsourcing/h1B etc. I was not sure whether you belong to the same tribe, hence my remark.
My take is that we indians are not answerable to their rants. The guys who decide to outsource or hire H1 over a qualified american are answerable.
You have a beef with them, take it with them.
Anyhow this does not belong in this forum. So you can take it off line at tambidude at gmail, if you wish so.
If medical doctors can be urged to join the jihad to kill instead of help, can muslim airline pilots be far behind?
Everyday, hundreds of muslim airline pilots fly widebody airliners into American cities. Every skyline is at their whim.
In my humble opinion, Kevorkian is NOT a murderer. No one need agree with me, but I don't see him as working to advance the jihad against America.
Jihadwatcher,
Egypt Air flight 990 comes to mind. In fact it was the Epyptian paper "Al Shaab" which gave us gems such as:Mossad/CIA behind it,or the FDR was recovered,reprogramed and tossed back into the ocean to incriminate the pilot,or my personal favorite: "It is not possible that someone who would commit suicide would kill so many innocent people alongside him."- Ehab William, surgeon at Cairo's Anglo-American hospital. -Cairo Times
Anyone who refuses the services of a Muslim or Arab doctor is guilty of de-facto racism.
Case closed.
Again, you right-wingers are making much ado about nothing. So a few people get a bit radical in their thinking. What harm was done? None. Can you really blame them, after all the humiliation that's been heaped upon Islam over the centuries by the rich, usually white power brokers, bankers, and corrupt media?
"making much ado about nothing.." Well, I don't think so. Nor, apparently does the British government. The Prime Minister has already ordered an investigation into the recruitment process of the NHS and to tighten up (do better background checks and so on). And this is for the benefit of everyone concerned. What Muslim wants to see more Muslim doctors implicated in terrorist plots?
Both the question of who gets into the profession (credentials, character checks, background, etc.), and how undesirables (incompetent ones -- and this includes *all* incompetent ones, not just Muslims) are weeded out -- these are legitimate subjects for public inquiry. They have to be addressed so as to maintain the public's confidence.
Do nothing, ignore the problem, and the possibility of having a successful plot increases. Then what would the "back-lash" be?
"Anyone who refuses the services of a Muslim or Arab doctor is guilty of de-facto racism."
Case closed.?
Nope, sorry there SmartGrowthAdvocate, you are wrong. First and foremost, Muslim is NOT a race. Do you understand the difference? To be a racist you need to hate a race, not a religion/political group.
In your little comment you say, "So a few people get a bit radical in their thinking." Where I came from a "few" would indicate 3, and we know there were more than a 'few', right? There were 7, is that a few? Radical thinking can never kill anyone, but bombs can, how do you equate radical thinking with detonating bombs? Are you saying that the bombs that went off were all in the imagination? Sort of like thought bombs? But what really made me laugh was the "all the humiliation that's been heaped upon Islam over the centuries by the corrupt media?" But my God you are stupid! But perhaps you were trying to be humorous. OK, OK, I see now, your a child and you found your way here by accident. You're going to be in trouble with your mom when she finds out you have been talking to strangers on the net. But before you go there little Tommy, tell me, have you ever seen a grown mad naked?
"Anyone who refuses the services of a Muslim or Arab doctor is guilty of de-facto racism."
- SmartGrowthAdvocate
As has been pointed out many times on this blog, Islam is not a race, so discriminating against Muslim doctors (or Muslim anything else) is not racism. Islam is an ideology, just like Nazism, Communism, or Buddhism for that matter.
Arab identity is ethnic, and discrimination on those grounds would be racist.
We've just had a demonstration of the power of Islam to corrupt the morality of a number of physicians. Why on earth would any non-Muslim needing medical treatment take an unnecessary chance with their health by seeing a possibly "bent" doctor?
QuadoLama:
Apologies for reiterating the points in your post. Clearly I need to write faster or recheck the latest posts before posting myself!
materialguy:
No, please, it's OK, I just wanted to ask this kid if he has ever seen a grown man naked! LOL!
I just couldn't believe what this youngster wrote here, it's so rare to read something like that on this site, but it's been a hot day and I needed a good laugh.
Anyone who refuses the services of a Muslim or Arab doctor is guilty of de-facto racism.
Case closed.
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Posted by: SmartGrowthAdvocate
If YOU say so.. I say better to be a living racist than a dead Liberal. You go ahead with your moslem doctor and I'll stand back and watch, OK?
I'll even toast ya later that evening at the locl pub.
To SmartGrowthAdvocate:
De-facto racism? FYI - I can spend my money anywhere I damn well please. I will never knowingly do business with any Islamic people - doctors or otherwise. As a Jewish woman, I am not convinced I will get adequate care and I prefer to not knowingly pay money to someone who may use it for jihad.
Right winger? I have voted democrat in every election. I would probably still be an "all the way to the left democrat" but a group of really bad people flew some airplances into some building and killed a lot of innocent people and I woke up out of my slumber. The so-called "right-wingers" seem to be the only ones who come close to even be aware that this is problem.
Racism? I was probably marching for African American equality (we used to call them colored people - that's how old I am) possibly before you were born.
"Can you really blame them, after all the humiliation that has been heaped upon islam over the centuries by the rich,usually white power brokers,bankers and corrupt media."
Agree 100%. It must have been quite a humiliation to islam to be met with centuries of worldwide resistance(including America's vile Stephen Decatur and the USS Intrepid who prevented the Barbary Corsairs from fulfilling their "religious" obligations as servants of allah) in the face of undistinguishing and unprovoked warfare,for the sake of a perceived supremism, against: Assyrians,Armenians,Jews,Chaldeans,Marionites, Hindus,Greeks,Coptics,Persians,Zoroastrians,Arab pagans,African pagans,Buddists,Chinese. The majority being non-"white" populations who had no concept of islam nor cared to and certainly predating the age of mass media. Now please run along and play,the adults are planning your allowance.
Scott
Very informative, thanks.