Along with the claim about bin Laden, we learn in this article that one of the plotters became a "religious fanatic." Is the Times daring to suggest that Islamic religious fervor has anything to do with jihad violence? Is the "friend who attended the Medical College of Baghdad University with Dr Abdulla" some kind of Islamophobe?
By Deborah Haynes, Jeremy Page and Martin Fletcher for the TimesOnline (thanks to JE):
The London and Glasgow bomb plots were carried out with the approval of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader, a top foreign intelligence source said last night.“It was an established fact from Day 1 that al-Qaeda was behind this and it was planned by its followers in Great Britain with bin Laden’s blessing,” the source told The Times.
British security officials were more guarded, saying that it was too early to say whether the plot was masterminded by some foreign hand or hatched in Britain....
The Times also learnt yesterday that Bilal Abdulla, 27, the Iraqi doctor who allegedly helped to drive a Jeep into the front of Glasgow airport last Saturday, disappeared for a year during his medical training in Baghdad. He is thought to have visited Pakistan or Lebanon.
A friend who attended the Medical College of Baghdad University with Dr Abdulla told The Times that he was a religious fanatic, and that in 2001 or 2002 he mysteriously abandoned his studies for a year.
“There was some talk that he went outside Iraq to develop his religious culture. I heard that he went to Lebanon or Pakistan,” the friend said.
On his return Dr Abdulla adopted a much more intense demeanour and isolated himself from his former friends. “He became more radical, but not to the degree that he took part in actual actions or clashes. He kept silent and became more isolated. He prayed and he kept himself away from the rest of the group.”
“He became more radical, but not to the degree that he took part in actual actions or clashes. He kept silent and became more isolated. He prayed and he kept himself away from the rest of the group.”
So the Brits have adopted the same kind of background check system that we use before letting these people in. I'm shocked., shocked I tell ya.
Seems to me that even the 24 hour shamnesty plan check would have discovered this guys religious/political leanings.
Although the terrorism situation is far from funny, there will be some humour to be had from watching Gordon Brown trying to pretend that there is no link between Islam and terrorism, especially when reports like this appear.
How can you tell (100% guaranteed) a Muslim approaches with a sharpened sword to smite you in the neck?
1) He is bearded.
2) He talks about his religion.
2001 or 2002 he mysteriously abandoned his studies for a year.
Mr. Spencer, this is something I have not heard Anything about so far: When these 'doctors' began going down the Jihadist path. One can BET the Left is already blaming the war in Iraq for these 'doctors' going fanatic. If there is ANY evidence of exactly when these terrorists joined the jihadist ranks, it needs to be made plain to everyone.
The Left will do everything it can to pin the world-wide rise of islamic terrorism on the war in Iraq.
It wont do Britain a lot of good to know if Ben Lousy blessed this operation or not. No one can find him anyway. I think it is part of the overall muslim support system, to blame Al-Qaeda for all terrorism, or most of it. It is not Al-Qaeda itself that desires world domination, by stealth, manipulations, hegemoney and violence, it is Islam proper. By blaming Al-Qaeda for extreemism, it lets Islam off the hook, or at least allows it to hide behind it's false front of ROP. That technique wont work on kufr's who have knowledge of Islam, but it work's great for the unwashed masses. It's not 'Islam', it's Ben Lousy. 'A small band of 'militant's, mostly 'asians', are responsible, not Islam. 'Brainwashing' on every level, much of it by the MSM, and gov officials. Either they are in the outright employ of Islam, or they are being used as 'useful idiots', and fellow travelers.
Re; Bombing plots ‘were carried out with bin Laden’s blessing’
Pointing out the facts, being a central clearing house of wire service stories re Jihad, is hate. Give me a break.
Spencer is an agitator for the truth and reality. His enemies don't like that. As per the bumper-sticker clowns who sometimes post here (both Muslims pretending to be non-Muslims and ding bat non-Muslims), Spencer has no tolerance for things that don't stay within the guard rails of fact.
Spencer is an agitator for the truth and reality re Jihad. It is what it is and the problem IS rooted in the dogmas of Islam. All of us, Muslim and non-Muslim, must face the facts on that.
And how was that done genius? Via Verizon.
And how was that done genius?
--posted by progressive
Bin Laden told Muhamed who told Muhammad who told Mohamet who told Mahmoud who told Mohamed who told Machmuud who told Mohammed who told...
NO FEED TROLL.
Eh, go ahead. Feed Troll. Troll "swiping" back funny. (WAS funny.)
Still funny, Troll? Dazzle Time!
Miss_Anthrope-
Re Parrot: Not worth it. A bumper-sticker mind. No ability to formulate arguments based on the strict rules of logic. Why bother?
lol.....from the pits of hell! In their nightmares! Another dillusional in hell with mo!
And this is a surprise to anybody with a brain? Well then, I am waiting for the official condemnation from Islam.....................................................................................................................Yawn......................
"Islamophobes of the world, Unite!"
"Stop Muslim Immigration now!"
Right on, duh_swami!! Islam is to blame, and anyone stupid enough to follow it's tenants.
Islam be gone!
Burnside:
What I guarantee you WON'T be humorous is the huge numbers of people worldwide (especially in the Europena Union, which continues to pour billions of Euros each year into the Muslim world) that will continue to remain in denial about the homicidal and diabolical nature of Islam after revelations from not only this article but literally hundreds of others like it that are going to follow about more terrorist attacks that are merely a matter of time before they are carried out...
Just watch. It never fails.
It was an established fact from Day 1 that al-Qaeda was behind this and it was planned by its followers in Great Britain with bin Laden’s blessing.
As if Osama would demand that a mass murder bombing not take place.
Pythagoras
This, from today's (London) Times, is definitely not humorous. A terrorist received £100,000 from the government.
"An al-Qaeda “sleeper” who tried to blend into English life possessed secret computer files on how to carry out terrorist bombings using cars packed with gas canisters.
The files were among a vast library of material designed to help extremists to form and operate terrorist cells. Omar Altimimi, 37, a married father of three, faces a lengthy prison term today after he was found guilty at Manchester Crown Court of six offences under the Terrorism Act 2000 and two under the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002.
Detectives believe that Altimimi, a Dutch citizen who uses at least three separate identities, aimed to blend into the community until he decided that it was time to strike. He arrived in Britain from the Netherlands in 2002 using an alias, and settled in Bolton with his wife and children. Although he failed to win political asylum under one false identity, he claimed £100,000 from the National Asylum Support Services, which he kept in one of eight bank accounts. Applications for jobs as a teaching assistant and as a cleaning supervisor for Greater Manchester Police were a cover for his real purpose, police say."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2034010.ece
I think Bin Liner has been worm bait since Tora Bora.
"He prayed..." Oh, really? To whom? Satan?
So funny, Ynkeddodl2 - Always they're named "Mohammed" or a variation thereof!
I don't believe that Bint Laden gave his "blessing" to these attempted atrocities.
This info came out almost the same day as the Glasgow incident.
How did they know so soon and if they do have someone so close to the AQ leadership whereas they can glean such info, then why isn't any action taken against them at that time?
We don't know if he's dead or alive for sure...
Hal Lindsey gives a little insight to the oath a Muslim doctor takes and then hits the nail on the head concerning Islam. No matter what you think of Hal Lindsey as a christian he doesn't pull any punches.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56535
Too bad the UK doesn't have the death penalty any more. They became so progressive, so tolerant, so enlightened they did away with it. Now they will spend millions of pounds keeping these vermin alive and feeding them halal meals so they can pray to Mecca and spread their religion in prison. Yes, real progressive. Bloody morons.
Hal Lindsey referred to a shortage of doctors in the west. In the UK, there is a shortage of hospital appointments for doctors who are coming to the end of their training, and this is partly caused by the recruitment of doctors from overseas.
From the BBC News website.
What could jobless doctors do?
Dan Parkinson
BBC News
Trainee doctors have protested about the lack of training contracts
The British Medical Association has warned that 10,000 doctors could miss out on training jobs in the NHS. What could they do instead?
It is not what Robert Thomas had in mind. Despite conquering medical exams for seven years his dreams of becoming a top consultant have been replaced by the prospect of the dole queue.
Despite a glittering academic record he says he has not been offered even an interview for one of the all-important NHS training contracts - and time is running out.
A friend of Dr. Abdulla said
"To develop his religious culture". What a hilarious euphemism. What other religion would train believers to fire Kalashnikovs and to create improvised explosives on their "sabbatical"?
The media won't say it, but everything these doctors did was directed by the words of the holy Qur'an. They were smiting. At the necks. Of the infidels.
I hope The Friends of Dr. Abdulla will be a very closely watched group in the future, but I have my doubts.
Burnside: "Hal Lindsey referred to a shortage of doctors in the west."
What?! and Why? I have personally known a number of extremely intelligent graduates of our finest universities who were betting against all odds to be accepted into medical school. Does anyone mean to tell me that we actually don't have enough qualified natives in the west to make it through medical school that we are somehow forced to import foreign doctors to do the "Jobs that Americans won't do"?
Please - someone in the medical field - explain this one to me - in simple English...
How exactly does a dead guy approve a bombing plot?
And if he's not dead, how can these guys find him but we can't?
Gary: Yes, I agree, if the Left can't blame terrorism on Iraq, then their whole worldview disintegrates. Now the more sophisticated among them realize that they can't fool everybody with that one, so they blame it on conservatives in general, via the catch-all 'Western Foreign Policy' going back to the CIA and the Shah of Iran, but always the doing of conservatives. That's who their real battle is with anyway, conservatives.
Heaven forbid the Left would take any share of responsibility. They think if they ran the world, the Muslims would be so happy they'd never dream of terrorizing anyone.
And just think. None of them were even able to kill themselves to join bin laden in hell.
Iraq didn't cause all the terrorist acts carried out before March 2003. And there are tons of them. But now since them Iraq is the cause of ALL of them. The left always spews their crap, but the sad thing is that so many people buy it.
Yo, progressive!!!
Still trying to find those statistics we asked about? You know, how people dress as priests and nuns in Europe to rob banks FREQUENTLY???
How about it???
And again I ask, HOW OLD ARE YOU??? C'mon tell us! I'm sure if you remove your shoes you'll be able to count past ten!
"Bomb plots carried out with bin Laden’s blessing"
Is that why they failed so miserably?