British officials arrest two on highway, close down Liverpool airport

ahhh.. jihadism in full scale.

Keep letting those Islamo-fascists into Europe, dhimmis. It seems to be working just fine.

Hi Guys, did your new PM really appointed a Muslim in the Government's Office? That would be like appointing a Nazi during the second world war. Can't you guys complain about that? I am pretty sure there are thousands of red-blooded British who'r able to do the job in the best possible fashion.

Interesting commentary from the Guardian of all places.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2115891,00.html

Maybe the penny is starting to drop for the leftwing multicultists who got us into this mess in the first place. Sadly though I get the impression from many of the readers comments this is not the case.

Still well worth reading though.

The article by Hassan Butt in The Guardian, to which a link is given in the posting above, is good -- up to a point. He still uses language that suggests he does not fully grasp how completely the Qur'an and Sunnah impose a worldview based on the divide between Believer and Infidel, with the community of the Believers -- and Islam itself -- owed sole loyalty, and Infidels owed nothing at all. If read carefully, his piece also misleads in its holding out of hope, in its pretense that the essence of Islam is not what it is.

Useful as a step -- a "milestone on the way." But it is the analyses offered by Ibn Warraq ("Islam and Fascism"), Anwar Shaikh ("Islam as the Arab National Religion"), Wafa Sultan ("Islam as a mental straitjacket"), and Ayaan Hirsi Ali ("Islam as oppression of Muslims as well as non-Muslims") that offer less hope than that "Land of Co-Existence" that Hassan Butt refers to, and holds out to the Infidels as something they should strive for, bet their futures on, when that "Land of Co-Existence" is --given the immutable texts of Islam, and the way in which Muslims revert to those texts, or can do so, at any moment-- merely an illusion, a dreamy and dangerous Land of Cockaigne that no Infidel should rely on.

Hassan Butt's testimony is useful, in that it directs attention to what he calls "Islamic theology" but is, in fact, the essence of Islam, a faith concocted, out of pre-Islamic Arab pagan lore, and names and stories taken over from, appropriated from, the Christians and Jews who were the first victims of Arab conquest -- and the conquerors now had a belief-system that would both justify and promote their conquests, for themselves, and among the conquered populations, among those willing to convert, and many others willing to submit to a status, not quite clear at first, of being regulated as people of the dhimma.

To the few smug (or just plain ill-informed) Americans that keep crowing childishly about the UK/Europe's imminent descent into Shia states - I'll just say this - watch your borders, watch your politicians - watch the new Muslim neighbours down the street. But above all watch your backs.

Because you're in this up to your necks too. For every Haymarket there is a Fort Dix, for every Jameah Islamiyah Academy, an Islamberg.

It would serve you much better to realise that we're all in the same fight and to behave accordingly.

JW posters might be interested to know that until Hassan Butt "came out" as a reformed jihadi the liberal media in the UK championed him as an innocent victim of Islamophobia. He just “happened” to work in a Islamic bookshop in Birmingham that also sold guerrilla instruction manuals and just “happened” to pay a visit to an Al Queda training camp when visiting Pakistan.

I wonder what they think about him now?

"watch your borders, watch your politicians - watch the new Muslim neighbours down the street. But above all watch your backs."

Very good advice. We in the US have no desire to see England turn into Kosovo. It is just amazing to here the English apoligist mentalty. You see many interviews of English on the street and they blame English actions around the world.

English actions are completly honorable from my point of view. English Muslims have the vote and free expression in the political realm. Resorting to violence should not be reasoned away.

Gordon Browns Cabinet is a bunch of dhimmi. We are waiting for the 'Peace in our time' speach or policy statment to come out soon.

Un:dhimmi

Great point you have made here. We in the USA look to be asleep at the wheel... again. But that may be because the Islamics here are better behaved, and know, deep down in their hearts, that it is only a matter of time before some mentally deranged American guy go's off on them. And when it does happen it's going to be epic. I for one keep telling my friends and others to keep a cool head, and keep beating the moderation drum, in hopes of staving off the inevitable. But I cant help but think that it will come with the next outrage, or the next atrocity the Islamics pull off here.

I loved Hugh's 3rd paragraph - "...a faith concocted out of pre-Islamic pagan lore, and names and stories appropriated from the Christians and Jews who were the first victims of Arab conquest. And the conquerers now had a belief-system that would both justify and promote their conquests."

That's it exactly. There is no "Allah." Ali Sina calls "Allah" "imaginary." So, here's this utterly deluded Muslim on fire at the Glasgow airport calling out for a "God" that doesn't exist! So pitiful.

At least Campbell Brown said "Islamic terrorists" on the Today Show this morning instead of just "terrorists." I did e-mail NBC yesterday saying, "Why can't your news team ever use the words "Islamic" and "Muslims?"

Maybe that helped! (Well, it couldn't hurt!)

Ruebaccca - I'm sorry to read your sentence that Gordon Brown's cabinet is "a bunch of dhimmi."

How can they be so stupid?

Also, does one capitalize "dhimmi?" Which - Dhimmi or dhimmi? I want to use the word correctly since it's so important. Also, it can mean both singular and plural? - A dhimmi / A bunch of Dhimmi?

They arrested this bugger in the Penny Lane area of South Liverpool, the end of Liverpool that houses most of our 'ethnic' population in this city and popular with international students. Apparently, they have this idea that the North end of the city is not a happy place to be for anyone considered 'ethnic', being heavily settled previously by those of Irish extraction.

Well, someone just made sure that that is more so now. Mark my words, there will be trouble if they have a pop at this city. We have lots of tolerance for each other, but not for people from outside who wish us harm.

If this keeps up - Hugh, and Robert, will be redundant.

That Guardian link deserves its own thread. It's exactly what Spencer has always been saying.

Apparently they've arrested a fifth guy.
Police sources linked the airport attack to the failed London bomb plots and said they had traced the cars found in the capital back to Glasgow

Are there any good muslims?

According to your local buddy, a guy named KenLivingston, the mayer of London, there are more good Muslims than non-Muslims. Why don't the British people hold him responsible for encouraging Jihad rather than speaking out against it on the British shores?

km

thanks for that. It is a little bit of good news,,for a change.

Keep us posted on his physical condition!

“Maybe the penny is starting to drop for the leftwing multicultists who got us into this mess in the first place.”

Can I just say that the article was not in The Guardian but in The Observer. OK, The Observer (which started in 1791, I think, when Britain faced another extremist threat, from across the Channel) has been owned by The Guardian for some years, but those savvy with the British scene will know that it is still, thank God, a different animal. I still read it, even though I’ve been disenchanted with British leftism for over thirty years, and wouldn’t be seen dead reading the Guardian. For some time the Observer has been running some very critical pieces about Islam (provoking predictable fury on the Letters page), especially from Nick Cohen.

Well, the mayor of London may be a stupid dhimmi, but here's what Lord Stevens, London's former police chief and Brown's new terrorism adviser said: "This weekend's bomb attacks signal a major escalation in the war being waged on us by Islamic terrorists."

He said "war" and he said "Islamic."

That's linguistic progress, don't you think?

LONDON (AFP) - London Mayor Ken Livingstone called on Britons Saturday not to demonize Muslims after a double car bomb plot was foiled in the capital, amid fears of a Islamist terror threat.

Ken Livingstone is a well-known Arabist and Jew hater, MusHuntCowboy. The first reason we don't hold him responsible for encouraging Jihad is that, like you, we enjoy the right of free speech in our country. The second reason is because that the main perpetrators of this, you may be surprised to learn, are Imams in Mosques and other Muslims.

Irresponsible and foolish though he is, Livingstone is merely an idiot utile. A sideshow. He is afforded virtually no political credibility; in fact no none listens to him at all as long as the buses and tubes run on time.

You have people like this in the United States, too - some of these are called Cindy Sheehan and Nancy Pelosi. ;)

I knew it! I knew that the PC "Guardian" would never run an un-PC article about Muslims.

Thank You, JFGR, for setting the record straight. It's The Observer, not The Guardian.

Love where you said "wouldn't be seen dead reading The Guardian," JFGR.

Prepare yourselves now for the following...

Muslim anger over potential backlash...
Muslim anger about being judged as terrorists...
Muslim anger over arrests...
Muslim anger about the terrorists being described as Muslim...
Etc etc etc...

km said:

Maybe the penny is starting to drop for the leftwing multicultists who got us into this mess in the first place. Sadly though I get the impression from many of the readers comments this is not the case.

The comments following Butt's article illustrate the left’s commitment to the world-view that blames western civilization for all of mankind's problems. Nothing will ever change that view -- they will never give up on it, no matter what evidence is presented to the contrary, no matter what facts are uncovered. They hold to that view with an utterly rigid, dogmatic dedication that rivals the faith of any religious person.

They will vote Ken Livingstone-types into office until they day they are vaporized.

Oh! Those poor, poor, misunderstood, mis-translated, victimized Asians forced to live in impoverished conditions in the wretched UK. They have it so bad, that HAVE to act out like this. It's all the fault of England you see.

LOL... I read (was it here at JW?) a couple of years ago about the UK NEVER, EVER, EVER calling them "Muslims" but rather "Asians." What an insult that must be for Indain/Pak/Bangla Hindus, who never start trouble, never cry "racism", and in fact constitute 1/3 of the physicians in the UK now.

Scorpion and frog.... scorpion and frog. Eventually the Religion of Terror WILL succeed in a full-scale, previously unimaginable, terrorist attack in the UK, just as they will here.

Then, no more Islam. No more Muslims. It's only a matter of time. I know that a lot of Muslims read this site, for the same reason that we all read the sites of "the other"... I beg you to try to bring your brethren into line, stop making excuses for them. The wisest among you would do very well to set up some kind of organization NOW, or join one, that is comprised of Muslims who denounce Muslim terror. Your "friends" are kicking sleeping giants and once roused, it's going to end very badly for all of you. Every time there is a Muslim terrorist attack, about 1/4th of you claim it wasn't really Muslims, but rather Mossad, CIA, etc. Another quarter of you claim that they were actually Muslims, but weren't really Muslims. Another 25% blame it on some old colonial failure, the Crusades, or some other imagined oppression... or even plain, old-fashioned poverty. The rest have nothing to say at all, and finally a tiny, tiny fraction of a percent state the obvious: terrorists commit terror because terror works. It worked for Mohammed, it worked for Algeria, it's working in "Palestine", it worked in Kashmir.

Stop apologizing and excusing the terrorist among you, distance yourself from them. No one in America, the UK, or the rest of the civilized world wants to see riots in the street or the mass exile of a certain group of people. But society can only take so much. Just imagine if the car bombs in London had been successful, and they'd killed hundreds of people like they wanted? Or the Glasgow "Asians" with a Jeep full of gas cans (thank God, or Engineering actually, for bollards!) Sooner or later they are going to hit hard, and be successful, like they were on 09-11. And when the civilized world has had enough, the response will be quite ugly indeed.

Act NOW.

fanorollins@yahoo.com

"Why don't the British people hold [Ken Livingstone] responsible for encouraging Jihad rather than speaking out against it on the British shores?"

Maybe they (most of them) do, but he's Mayor of London, and only Londoners can vote him out of office -- I'll be doing my bit, come the next election, and Londoners certainly won't be pleased at being told by Ken on Saturday that it was quite safe to walk about London. He's widely regarded as a buffoon here, but he's treading dangerous ground. Once Londoners perceive him as giving comfort to the enemy, he'll be out on his ear. (Amazing, I agree, that enough of them haven't twigged that already.)

Today would be Princess Diana's 46th b'day.

Anyone have any thoughts about what Britain would be like now had she lived and married the Egyptian Muslim, Dodi al-Fayed? Their children - linking Muslims to the English Royals?

check this out:

Even the lefty Guardian is now running scared:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2115832,00.html

"My plea to fellow Muslims: you must renounce terror

As the bombers return to Britain, Hassan Butt, who was once a member of radical group Al-Muhajiroun, raising funds for extremists and calling for attacks on British citizens, explains why he was wrong"

Sunday July 1, 2007
The Observer

Have they been mugged by reality, or what?

Un:dhimmi writes:
"You have people like this in the United States, too - some of these are called Cindy Sheehan and Nancy Pelosi. ;)"

Quite right. Even worse, George W. Bush is a
mohammadan enabler. The Democrat leaders in this
country are crippled by PC BS, and the Republicans
by their love of $$$ (why else were so many ready
to sell ruin this country with an illegal alien
amnesty?) so we are in a deep hole. But there are
signs that the digging is slowing down.

"Prepare yourselves now for the following...

Muslim anger over potential backlash...
Muslim anger about being judged as terrorists...
Muslim anger over arrests...
Muslim anger about the terrorists being described as Muslim...
Etc etc etc..."

And let's hope British anger about Muslim anger.

Un:Dhimmi,

First of all, in the words of your illustrious VP, GFY. The right-wing is THICK with dhimmis. Do you have any pictures of Slick Willie Moonbeam or Hitlery kissing the fat, ugly mug of the King of Saudomy Arabia? Or holding his pudgy, non-calloused, never-lifted-in-labor hand and traipsing around for all the world to see? What's that? You don't? Well there are pics aplenty with your Dhimmbya doing JUST THAT on his "ranch" in Texas.

Nancy Pelosi (BTW that's Madame Speaker to you, sh*theel, and you're going to lose 10 more House seats and 6 Senate seats in '08 just in time for President Hitlery) visits Syria, you soil your Depends. Al-Bush cozies up to Bandar Bush, and it's no big whoop, right?

Stop blaming the liberals for everything, and help me convince them that Islam is a threat. You could start by telling them what Muslims do to feminists, homosexuals, misfits, and "other liberals."

Wow, a running roadblock on the M6 to catch the badguys, and no-one (other than the guy who threw burning petrol all over himself) was killed or badly injured. It's all very exciting and swashbuckling good fun, and the good guys won this time. Hurrah!

But this is NOT how to run an anti-jihad. We Westerners shouldn't be relying on ambulance crews who happened to be dispatched for an unrelated injured partygoer to be our national security system. Same for the video-copy clerk who prevented the Fort Dix attack, the Walmart clerk who noticed the cellphone sales, the hazmat truck driving teacher who turned in the driving student who didn't want to learn to back up, and so on.

Our lack of an identification of the threat that is facing us, and our lack of an intelligent and forceful (not necessarily military force) response to that threat have put us in this position, where ad hoc acts of derring do and sheer blind luck have protected us for the most part. The police who disabled the cell-phone-detonator on the live London carbomb did a very courageous and nailbiting job. But he shouldn't have had to.

Can we please get out of thrillseeker mode? Let's ace it. These jihadists should never have been here in the first place.

If this was a "success" because no-one was killed, it was just barely a "success". In truth, it was a failure, another example of how our immigration policy (or the lack thereof) is leaving us all at great risk. Another example of how we cannot take action pro-actively to protect ourselves, we have to wait until hundreds or thousands (or hundreds of thousands) are killed before we react after the fact.

"Let's face it", not "ace it".

“Anyone have any thoughts about what Britain would be like now had [Princess Diana] lived and married the Egyptian Muslim, Dodi al-Fayed? Their children - linking Muslims to the English Royals?"

Doesn’t bear thinking about. However, I feel a conspiracy theory coming on – Dodi al-Fayed killed and now the knighthood for Salman Rushdie, the Muslim apostate. Can someone in the Palace be …?

OK folks, relax, just a tasteless joke..

This is a bizzare plot. I am questioning the timing of it. While the Judeo-Nazis are pounding Gaza, there had to be something big to divert the media's attention from the slaughter over there. The Judeo-Nazi state wants to eliminate the resistance group Hamas while the world is watching events unfold in England. If the Judeo-Nazis don't succeed in their evil intentions, they will bomb a shrine in Iraq. Just sit and watch my predictions come true. Those Judeo-Nazis are sly and cunning.

"However, I feel a conspiracy theory coming on"

Doh, might have known "Progressive" would trump me in the conspiracy theory stakes!

"Judeo-Nazis" ? ? ?

Am I the only one who is scratching his head around here ?

"I beg you to try to bring your brethren into line, stop making excuses for them. The wisest among you would do very well to set up some kind of organization NOW, or join one, that is comprised of Muslims who denounce Muslim terror."

Posted by: kj

I am afraid that would not be possible.

That means to reject the verses of the immutable Koran, Sunna and Hadith.
That means becoming an Apostate.
That means loss of life as a result.

Who would risk it?

uh kj - I believe that un:dhimmi is a Brit. Get a hold of yourself.

"progressive" said

they will bomb a shrine in Iraq. Just sit and watch my predictions come true.

Sunni Muslims will bomb another Shi'ite shrine in Iraq? That's not a prediction, that's a guarantee, like "the sun will rise in the morning". Las Vegas won't be taking odds on that.

As long as we're predicting the bleedin' obvious, I predict Muslims will commit further attacks in the West. I predict that there will be a reaction that the Muslims will regret for many generations.

This is a bizzare plot. I am questioning the timing of it. While the Judeo-Nazis are pounding Gaza, there had to be something big to divert the media's attention from the slaughter over there. The Judeo-Nazi state wants to eliminate the resistance group Hamas while the world is watching events unfold in England. If the Judeo-Nazis don't succeed in their evil intentions, they will bomb a shrine in Iraq. Just sit and watch my predictions come true. Those Judeo-Nazis are sly and cunning.
Posted by: retarded at July 1, 2007 11:15 AM

Retarded - you are one hell of a cool dude, how did you figure that man! Did your brain or did your butt hurt when you were writing this piece of cra...?

Why don't you go and play with your other buddies on some Islamic sites or did they send you over here because they have the copyright signatures to the conspiracy crap?

Get out of here.

Un:dhimmi,

"It would serve you much better to realise that we're all in the same fight and to behave accordingly."

Point taken.

Many of us are still waiting for Europeans to come to the same conclusion rather than decide if they just keep an arm's (or ocean's) length away from the US and US leaders that they can protect themselves.

Exhibit A: Spain (Madrid)
Exhibit B: Germany (less so under Merkel)
Exhibit C: Britain (or rather, the BBC)

The leaders worked with and supported Bush but the people opposed them each and every time. One was turned out of office. I know it wasn't the primary reason Spain turned out its party but that doesn't obviate the Spanish opposition to its country's alliance with the US and UK in Iraq.

If Ken Livingstone has no credibility among Londoners then why is he in office? He DOES have credibility.

Many of us are frustrated with our leaders who insist on downplaying the danger we face. We want tough action but we are called bigots.

I can't speak for others but it's hard to watch (and hear) Britons say Tony Blair is a war criminal (heard it again just this morning from a British caller) and that Britain is too close to the US, which is the only reason it is a target for Islamic terrorists, and still believe that the British people are with us.

I watch PM's Questions on the BBC and see Blair (don't know what Brown will do) always defending Britain's alliance with the US. That suggests that too many Brits and their representatives in the House of Commons are uncomfortable with it. It's said that Brown has a very good relationship with Democrats like John Kerry, suggesting that he isn't prepared to follow Blair's course.

After Bush's reelection a British newspaper headline read How Could 53,000,000 Americans be so DUMB?

JFGR, you may be opposed to Livingstone but that doesn't matter if other Londoners want him in there. London could have been hit severely by the people Livingstone appeases. Will that matter in the next election? Seeing is believing.

Europeans are closer to the terrorism than we are. We're not crowing. We're fearful. Four words always come to mind: "peace in our time". Sometimes it seems history is repeating itself.

We've been conditioned by the cold war to go along to get along. The danger posed by nuclear weapons kept both sides from pushing the envelope too far. That danger doesn't frighten Muslim countries. They anticipate it and long for it. There is no guarantee that nuclear weapons will suddenly make them more amenable to negotiations but the EU just keeps "negotiating" with Iran. The realization that the US wasn't set on taking over the Soviet Union and was willing to negotiate on arms went a long way toward cooling tensions. That won't work with the Muslim community, but our leaders (on both sides of the Atlantic) are still mired in cold war philosophy. They are still asking "why do you hate us" as if there is an answer to that question and as if there is anything we can do to ameliorate the Muslim desire for world domination. The Muslims may have pushed too far with the attacks in Glasgow and London, but too many Europeans seem ready to say it's all Bush's fault and none of this would have happened if we weren't in Iraq.

I repeat: we are not crowing. We are afraid that Europe will be taken over.

Liverpool John Lennon Airport (motto: "Above Us Only Sky")

Shocked.

KJ,

As a Democrat one thing I've learned is that liberals so ideologically driven you can't reach them in regards to things like Islamic fundamentalism or even border security. Mention either and you will send liberals into a state of venom spewing like you wouldn't believe.

BTW Democrats are not liberals. Liberals are traditionally college educated upper class folks who are very isolated from most working class Americans. They have almost nothing in common with most Americans and in fact despise most folks not like them.

And no they don't care if Muslims kill atheists, subjugate women and treat non-believers like crap. Why? for starters liberals are dumb as rocks when it comes to religion in general and islam in particular. All most liberals know is that Christianity is bad and every other religion is good. The other problem is that liberals are multiculturalists and hence see all cultures as equals which blind thems to what Islam really is.

Liberals may wake up one day, but given how much political ideology drives them, its doubtful that anyone can change their beliefs. They'll go to the grave IMO before changing.

With respect to the latest Islamist terrorist outrages, the news commentators continue to raise the question, "why are they angry at us", and point to our "foreign policies, Salman Rushdie, etc. etc." But the great contradiciton is that the same liberal dhimmis that ask this question are those who decry anything that even hints of "collective punishment" such as monitoring mosques, or profiling based on religion, Israeli security barrier, etc. But if "U.S. and U.K. policies", etc. are the basis of jihadist terror, then isn't this terrorism collective punishment in its most violent and pure form? So those who seek to discover such rationales should at least recognize and denounce the jihadist belief in collective punishment.

Un:dhimmi,
But Europe and the UK aren't waking up. They still want to believe the non-reality that Islam is just another religion. They blame everybody but the real aggressors : Islam and it's followers.

EU citizens cry that the Iraq war is the cause of "Islamic Extremism", having ignored Islamic histroy. Liberal Europeans have a smug attitude when it comes to history (at least the ones I've met), yet have no clue about Islam and refuse to learn. Even when confronted with plain facts, they will not believe it. When a situation like that exists, there is no hope.

progressive - your complete disregard for even the minimum standards of truth is utterly nauseating. You are making a complete ass of yourself.

Farfour dies...
http://www.memritv.org/#
clip 1497

Liberals may wake up one day, but given how much political ideology drives them, its doubtful that anyone can change their beliefs. They'll go to the grave IMO before changing.
by: waltc

Agreed. For many liberals even the suggestion that a part of their creed might be erroneous would be a fate worse than death.

They'd prefer to die.

usapatriot - excellent point but the downside to your argument is that it's just too darned logical and doesn't take into account the modern liberal's emotional/ego need to prove his moral superiority by only seeing things from the other's POV! Someone (probably at Auster's site) once noted that what modern liberals are REALLY about is aimed at proving their moral superiority in comparison to their own - which means to other whites. That's why they take great pains to trash working-class "rednecks" for their traditional religious, family and patriotic values while simultaneously respecting and lauding those same values when manifested by the non-white "other". Since the average person will tend to place their own family and country first, the modern liberal proves his comparative moral superiority by placing the "others" family and country first. Makes sense to me and seems to explain quite alot actually.

To the so called "progressive:"

The only Nazi around here is the progressive socialist-nazi which is you.

National or International Socialists are all one, all Nazis.

Not only the liberals.

Even the conservatives in Europe are both unwilling and unable to come to terms with the reality and the sheer horror of islam.

Most know some muslims ('who are not like that') many have travelled in Maroc, Tunesia, Turkey, Egypt and found it all so very pleasant, the people so hospitable and charming, you know the drift.

When I tell them what's in the Koran they just don't believe me, they think I'm grazy or I'm making it up or its me who hates Muhammedans, not the other way around.

Its a hard one, that one.

About the Memri clip about Farfour...notice the land is described as having flowers, trees, beautiful land...who made Israel bloom? Sure as hell wasn't "palestinians", who denuded the land. The Jews brought Israel back to life, as God promised.

Good point, Caroline.

scribe10 - despite his moniker, I'm pretty sure that "progressive" is a Muslim.

PMK:

If Ken Livingstone has no credibility among Londoners, then why is he in office? He DOES have credibility.

Yes he has credibility. For running buses and tube trains and helping with the Olympics a little bit. You don't think we'd trust him with anything else do you?

He's a City Mayor, not a national or international player (except maybe in his own delusions).

Sheik yer mami: "Even the conservatives in Europe are both unwilling and unable to come to terms with the reality and the sheer horror of islam."

That's merely evidence that conservatism doesn't really exist anymore and that even most so-called conservatives are now completely infected with modern liberalism. George Bush and most western Christian denominations being prime examples.

Scottish Muslims angry over the attack!
"VERY ANGRY"
"Senseless attacks"

What attacts are they so upset over?

'Senseless attacks'

He described an incident in Lanarkshire where graffiti had been daubed stating: "Kill all Pakis starting with Mohammad Sarwar".

Other high profile Scottish Muslims have also spoken of their anger over the attack.

Osama Saeed, from the Muslim Association of Great Britain, said he was "seething".

"We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it," he said.

"No cause, and certainly no Muslim cause, is advanced by these senseless attacks - quite the opposite.

"We wish this had not happened and hope that there is no more."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/6258544.stm

Such islamophobia, the flying immans are right. This is nothing but racism. Such profiling should be against the law. Somebody accidentally loses control of a car and right a way we brand them as a terrorist. We need to be more sensitive to the needs of others.

I wonder how far the lawsuit in Minneapolis is going to get. And if it doesn't immediately get thrown out-of-court there is something wrong with our legal system. And if it does. I'm sure the Liberals will cry foul play. Multiculturalism will be our downfall.

Stop Muslim immigration now.

Nancy Pelosi (BTW that's Madame Speaker to you, sh*theel, and you're going to lose 10 more House seats and 6 Senate seats in '08 just in time for President Hitlery) visits Syria, you soil your Depends. Al-Bush cozies up to Bandar Bush, and it's no big whoop, right?

Stop blaming the liberals for everything, and help me convince them that Islam is a threat. You could start by telling them what Muslims do to feminists, homosexuals, misfits, and "other liberals."

Posted by: kj at July 1, 2007 10:58 AM
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kj,

be very frightened if President Hitlery is voted in for sites like this one will be shut down by the feds........

freedom of speech will be no more.........

can you say Fairness Doctorine.......... the only thing fair about the Fairness Doctorine is in the name............ it will be used as the method to silence every American......... that would speak out against the great tyranny that our federal government could become.

kj, you are seeing the workings and failures of leftism, liberalism, atheitism, secularism and PCism..... and if we are fortunate enough.... we may see the demise of these failed attempts to destroy America and the world.........

prepare be armed be ready for war is coming and it can not be stopped......

The Texican.
God Family America Freedom the only choice at any cost.

The T

Failed jihad attack here and there. Another averted jihad attack over there. A few arrests here, there and everywhere.

Perhaps the timing is ripe for increasingly receptive infidels everywhere to discover some literature left casually behind in a booth at a pub or on a train or bus. A park bench under the soft shade of a tree supplied with a copy of any of Spencer's books or a photocopied excerpt relevant to recent events.

Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allâh’s Prophet by Ali Sina ... is especially delicious fare to share during this period when the terror alert is at it's highest level. Play current events to anti-jihad advantage.

Homemade stickers with images of this site's logo and link can be placed on lamp posts, bus shelters and trash bins, rest room stalls at airports/bus and train stations. It's amazing what one can learn/teach, anywhere in our everyday environment.

Yes, Caroline, "progressive" is a Muslim.

It's quite easy to see how much he "hates." Can always spot a Muslim that way. Thanks for proving yet again what a bunch of "haters" Muslims are, progressive! Oh, can't you go and play on your Islamic hate sites?

Darcy: "It's quite easy to see how much he "hates." Can always spot a Muslim that way."

I think the bigger give-away is the absolutely absurd lengths he will go to in order to try to place the blame elsewhere.

I should add - constantly blaming the other and taking no responsibility for one's actions whatsoever is the hallmark of a sociopath and a person with a "character disorder". By contrast, the "neurotic", which describes the modern liberal, goes to absurd lengths to place responsibility and blame upon himself. Hence, we have the makings for a beautiful symbiotic relationship!

Is this the same Regressive that posts on LGF?

QuadoLama,

You are right, the Muslims in this country mine their p's and q's because for three reasons: a: they are not large in numbers, b: non-Muslim Americans are watching them or are keeping a close eye on them, and c: Americans, unlike the British, are allowed to "pack heat" or keep and bear arms. So the Muslims here would be very foolish to start any trouble. But sadly it is not a matter of if but when.

Keith....It's been a long time. Good to see you back here.

D.C.

"Also, does one capitalize "dhimmi?" Which - Dhimmi or dhimmi?"

In Arabic, there are no capital or lower case letters... so take your pick! The Germans may be considered to be fond of capitalizing their nouns, we English speaking folks in America are not.

Here is a starter for the dhimmi:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

Liberal Europeans have a smug attitude when it comes to history (at least the ones I've met), yet have no clue about Islam and refuse to learn. Even when confronted with plain facts, they will not believe it. When a situation like that exists, there is no hope.

Posted by: non-redneck

European left is so full of BS. Thay have history but don't remeber any of it. A Danish lefty critized our overthrogh of the Taliban. I trew it back in his face. 'Japan killed 3k Americans in a sneak attack and we overturned Japans Government. Denmark did not protest that at the time. Ohh maybe becuse Denmark was occupied by the Nazi at the time.'

Texican,

Well after the US Senate this past Thursday took a BEATING from the American people and conservitive talk radio after the bruhaha on the illigel immagrints issue with the amnisty bill going down in flamming defeat, conservitive talk radio now has the satus gained of becoming a new "third rail" that the politicals dare not touch, least they get electrocuted. Even I have heard that in the house the so-called "fairness doctrine" is DEAD and there is a senator from MN who is working to prevent it from ever coming to life again.

“I can't speak for others but it's hard to watch (and hear) Britons say Tony Blair is a war criminal (heard it again just this morning from a British caller) … and still believe that the British people are with us.”

So how do you explain the fact that Tony Blair was re-elected Prime Minister in 2005, if “the British people” are so bothered by his policy in Iraq and Afghanistan? How many more times -- a few callers, a few letter-writers, the upper echelons of the BBC etc. are not “the British people”. This is so simplistic it beggars belief. You might as well conclude that 100% of “the British people” are anti-jihad from the opinions of the British posters of this site. As I’ve said before, we British don’t go talking about “the American people” when we see some example of crass dhimmitude from the US authorities.

And PMK, don’t you think WE might be fearful that America might be taken over? You’re not immune, you know.

“EU citizens cry that the Iraq war is the cause of "Islamic Extremism", having ignored Islamic histroy.”

Here we go again – “EU citizens”. I can disprove that with a few words – I don’t cry that, and I’m an “EU citizen” (in law if not in sentiment). William Blake said “To generalize is to be an idiot. To particularize is the alone distinction of merit.” Let’s have a bit less idiocy and a few more distinctions of merit, shall we?

Yo, kj!

Nice to see ya again.

Clinton Library funded by Saudi millions:

http://www.nysun.com/article/5137

Clinton helps islam enter the public schools:

http://www.blessedcause.org/proof/Clinton%20Embracing%20Islam%20selling%20out%20children.htm

Clinton ignores the chance to get bin Laden:

http://www.sudan.net/news/press/postedr/125.shtml

And the list goes on...

imagine no islam

(I'm sure Lennon would have met the same fate as the mocking Dutch gadfly Theo Van Gogh ...had a jealous fan not shot him in the back first, since JL was as outspoken and irritating to fanatics as Theo v.G.)

A shame lennon didn't add "I don't believe in Mohammad" to his litany of skepticism in the song "god", but, at that time, Mo was less familiar a figure in popular consciousness, since the 1972 Olympic massacre hadn't taken place yet.

Time for a big one-way Hadj.

"Even I have heard that in the house the so-called "fairness doctrine" is DEAD and there is a senator from MN who is working to prevent it from ever coming to life again."

That would be good news. A month or so bac, when I first heard of this Fairness Doctrine, I wrote a letter, an email, to my US Congressman who happens to be one of the Blue Dog Democrats here in the South (first time if have ever done such a thing). I expressed to him my dissatisfaction with this bill. He (or his office) responded to me within a day, with the typical political speak about a diversity of viewpoints being in the publics best interest (which it probably is, we don't after all want to see a monolithic exclusive state sponsored media, at the extreme) but ultimately agreed that the Fairness Doctrine, as envisioned in the 1940s was not appropriate for the times of today where there is a multitude of avenues to express a diversity of opinion. If this Fairness doctrine we to be buried in the chambers of congress, that would be fine with me. As much as I don't care for conservative talk radio, this isn't about conservative talk radio, it's the First Amendment, for crying outloud! :)

Postscript on Tony Blair (full text at

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,2115929,00.html

Blair launches stinging attack on 'absurd' British Islamists

Nicholas Watt, political editor
Sunday July 1, 2007
The Observer
Tony Blair has launched a powerful attack on 'absurd' British Islamists who have nurtured a false 'sense of grievance' that they are being oppressed by Britain and the United States.
In his most outspoken remarks on Islamists, the former Prime Minister warns that Britain is in danger of losing the battle against terrorists unless mainstream society confronts the threat.
Blair's remarks, in which he also attacks some civil liberty campaigners as 'loopy loo', were made in a Channel 4 documentary recorded last Tuesday on the eve of his departure from Downing Street.
'The idea that as a Muslim in this country that you don't have the freedom to express your religion or your views, I mean you've got far more freedom in this country than you do in most Muslim countries,' Blair told Observer columnist Will Hutton, who presents the documentary.
'The reason we are finding it hard to win this battle is that we're not actually fighting it properly. We're not actually standing up to these people and saying, "It's not just your methods that are wrong, your ideas are absurd. Nobody is oppressing you. Your sense of grievance isn't justified."'
Blair held out the example of the overthrow of the Taliban in Afghanistan - criticised by Islamists as an example of the heavy-handed imperial West oppressing Muslims - to highlight unfounded claims of grievance. He asked how it is possible to claim that Afghanistan's Muslims are being oppressed when the Taliban 'used to execute teachers for teaching girls in schools'.
Blair added: 'How are [we] oppressing them? You're oppressing them when you support the people who are trying to blow them up.'
Blair, who normally chooses his language carefully when he talks about Islamists, also takes a swipe at critics who accused him of undermining civil liberties. 'When I'm trying to change the law in order to make it easier to deport people who engage in terrorism - the idea that that's an assault on hundreds of years of British civil liberties is completely absurd. Some of what is written on this is loopy-loo in its extremism.'

JFGR: "William Blake said “To generalize is to be an idiot. To particularize is the alone distinction of merit."

I see. So to apply that to the "Muslim problem" in Europe, you're to take each and every Muslim on his own individual merit and make no generalizations regarding Muslims as a whole. Sounds exactly like what got us all into this pickle. Whereas, "back in the day" people were quite willing to make precisely those kinds of generalizations such as "Muslims cannot on the whole make good and loyal citizens of the west. There may be individual exceptions but we haven't the time nor the resources to sort that out. Hence, we shall treat them as a monolithic group for our own survival, no matter the virtues of any individual Mohammadan."

According to Blake, however, that would be idiotic. I wonder whether you might not wish to rethink your overall condemnation of "generalization"? (not to mention not taking the apparent "Brit-bashing" at this site so very personally).

Yes [Ken Livingstone] has credibility. For running buses and tube trains and helping with the Olympics a little bit. You don't think we'd trust him with anything else do you?

He's a City Mayor, not a national or international player (except maybe in his own delusions).

Un:dhimmi,

As the saying goes, you can't have it both ways. If you're willing to accept an Arabist mayor because he's good with running the buses and the tube then you have to be willing to accept the terrorism that goes with it.

You say he's only a city mayor but, like Rudy Giuliani on 9/11, he's the mayor of a city under attack by jihadists and he's on the world stage. He's not to blame for the jihad but what about his responsibility to the citizens of London, Muslim and non-Muslim alike? If you don't separate his running the trains from his failure to condemn the bombings then why should the Muslims? It's true what they say. Politics makes strange bedfellows.

How long has he been mayor? Did his policies do anything to create Londonistan or was that all Tony Blair's doing?

Given his sympathies, can you trust him to take the necessary actions with the Muslim community to investigate them fully? Are you saying there are no other administrators anywhere in London?

Profitsbeard

The same song has both 'Imagine there's no heaven' as well as 'Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too' Both these ought to piss off the Jihadis, since Lennon forgot the disclaimer 'and no religion except Islam'.

Speaking of Lennon, he did return his MBE award to protest against Britain's policy in both Bangladesh and Baifra (I'm forgetting whether it was Britain's involvement or non-involvement). Does anybody remember whether he supported the Baifra independence movement, or the Muslim side in that conflict?

Expect soon an angry backlash against the Muslim community in the UK.

So how do you explain the fact that Tony Blair was re-elected Prime Minister in 2005, if “the British people” are so bothered by his policy in Iraq and Afghanistan?

JFGR,
That was two years ago. I was telling you what I heard only this morning and what I have heard for most of the past year.
So Blair was reelected. George W. Bush was, too. It proves nothing except that the opposition wasn't strong enough to defeat him. I think it was you who said some time ago that Labour was pretty much the default choice for people who were not Conservatives and didn't support the Liberal Democrats. It doesn't mean the British people support this policy in Iraq or that they are willing to keep on fighting. Like Bush, Blair won DESPITE Iraq and Afghanistan, not because of them.

I know we're not immune. We must all hang together or we shall all hang separately. Instead I see too many people in Europe willing to write off this fight and pretend there is not a problem. It will kill them, too.

You're closer to the source of the virus than we are. Is Britain the canary in the coal mine?

"[JFGR] I think it was you who said some time ago that Labour was pretty much the default choice for people who were not Conservatives and didn't support the Liberal Democrats."

To put the record straight, I didn't say that. I'm not sure either what a "default" choice would be -- if you hate them all, you just don't vote (or vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party, perhaps).