They are Muslims, of course, and they use core Islamic texts and teachings to justify their actions, but never mind that. We wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Let's just pretend that isn't happening, and maybe it will go away. The "war on terror" is over too. We're just dealing with a few bad apples, that's all. Nothing to be concerned about.
Gordon Brown's tenure as British Prime Minister is certainly off to an auspicious beginning. His people will remember him in the same breath with...no, not that Churchill fellow with his awful cigars. But certainly with Churchill's illustrious predecessor, who brought Peace In Our Time.
By Macer Hall for the Daily Express (thanks to Twostellas):
Gordon Brown has banned ministers from using the word “Muslim” in connection with the terrorism crisis.The Prime Minister has also instructed his team – including new Home Secretary Jacqui Smith – that the phrase “war on terror” is to be dropped.
The shake-up is part of a fresh attempt to improve community relations and avoid offending Muslims, adopting a more “consensual” tone than existed under Tony Blair....
Mr Brown’s spokesman acknowledged yesterday that ministers had been given specific guidelines to avoid inflammatory language.
“There is clearly a need to strike a consensual tone in relation to all communities across the UK,” the spokesman said. “It is important that the country remains united.”
He confirmed that the phrase “war on terror” – strongly associated with Mr Blair and US President George Bush – has been dropped.
Officials insist that no direct links with Muslim extremists have been publicly confirmed by police investigating the latest attempted terror attacks. Mr Brown himself did not refer to Muslims or Islam once in a BBC TV interview on Sunday.
Ms Smith also avoided any such reference in her statement to MPs yesterday.
She said: “Let us be clear – terrorists are criminals, whose victims come from all walks of life, communities and religions. Terrorists attack the values shared by all law-abiding citizens. As a Government, as communities, as individuals, we need to ensure that the message of the terrorists is rejected.”Tory backbencher Philip Davies said: “I don’t know what purpose is served by this. I don’t think we need pussyfoot around when talking about terrorism.”
But former Tory homeland security spokesman Patrick Mercer said: “This is quite a smart idea. We know that the vast majority of Muslims are not involved in terrorism and we have to accept there are sensitivities about these matters.”
All right, Mercer. The vast majority aren't involved in terrorism. Nevertheless, the terrorists recruit and motivate by making use of Islamic concepts. If we cannot talk about this, how will we ever formulate a strategy to deal with it effectively?
I knew Brown would be an absolute disaster, I can't get annoyed at this, it is so so predictable.
And how are you going to beat terrorism when you are not even able to face up to the direct cause of it as you said, well anyway I did not expect anything better from Brown.
If I was still living in Britain I would be just about ready to go for open rebellion, thankfully I am no longer living in what was once a great country, in the period 1982 to 1995 that is, I left the UK in 1999 and to be blunt at least in France we have a competent leader now, can't say the same for the UK...
Cant win a war if you refuse to identify the enemy or the root cause for the motivation of the enemy.
No they were "asian" I heard myself on the news!!!!! I saw a duck swimming in the pond, but I had to call it a water-fowl. The CADR (Council of American Duck Relations) filed a lawsuit against me when I called 'em ducks. Those Mother-duckers!!
Want to improve relations with the ummah Brown? Here is some comments
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=26105_Ummah.com-_How_to_Handle_the_Kuffars_Demands&only
MuslimMuslimMuslimMuslimMuslimMuslimMuslimMuslim
The Terrorists are MuslimsThe Terrorists are MuslimsThe Terrorists are MuslimsThe Terrorists are Muslims........
...dhimmi Brown seeks to wrest dhimmi Carters award away from him this year....
Can we call the victoms Anglo-Saxons? Ask the Muslims if thats ok.
"...inflammatory language..."
This is so disgusting.
I guess Brown is toeing the EU line in banning the use of the words Muslim or Islam in the same sentence as the words terrorist or extremist.
If you can't trust the people in charge or the media to tell the truth about what's going on...
How long before the EU declares Islamophobia to be a crime worthy of a long jail sentence or a mental illness worthy of a long stay in a psychiatric ward?
(Visions of Communist Russian and Islamic Iran dancing in my head.)
Josephine, there are already plans to make Islamophobia a crime, the Council of Europe have already put forward an advisory paper to the Commission to do just that.
I could call them whatever I want, and it doesn't change the fact that the muslims want us dead - and you too Mr. Brown, unless of course if you convert or pay the jizya (if they allow it).
...I may chose not to call Brown a Briton....
So, if they weren't Muslims, then I take it they didn't go to Mosque, read the Quran, or call themselves Muslims? - Oh wait, they did? - I guess that means they're Muslims then!
Gordon Brown is an ignorant fool, and he is going to make the problem worse, not better.
The really delicious irony here is that, "War on Terror," is, almost certainly, a euphemism in itself.
Anyone who believes we have gone to war on "terror" is a complete ignoramous.
So, apparently, we now need a euphemism for our euphemism.
I hope they have really large supply of euphemisms handy, because apparently they are going to our primary ammunition for awhile.
When are people are going to get it. It isn't about individual Muslims it is about the religion called ISLAM and what it commands it's followers to do.
I also recommend not to use the "Asian Men" description.
How about - "Eight carbon lifeforms were arrested in connection with improper use of camping gas cylinders."
There. Sounds much better.
"...there are already plans to make Islamophobia a crime, the Council of Europe have already put forward an advisory paper to the Commission to do just that." Posted by: Daffersd
Daffersd -- I would really appreciate it if you or anyone else would post a link to some info so I could learn more about this.
Thanks so much.
It seems to me that the British government has decided to become French, the Chirac style French.
The UK and London needs to elect new leaders that has brains in their head instead of Sawdust and balls instead of marshmallows.
If this keeps up in a few years Naseem would fly the satanic flag over Parliament.
"The vast majority of Muslims are not engaged in..." OVERT "...terrorism."
YET.
(Correcting a mental typo or two by airy-fairy PM Brown.)
A google search on "islamophobia" limited to "site:europa.eu" will result in numerous hits regarding the advisory body EUMC, which will provide useful info on this sheer madness.
'"The vast majority of Muslims are not engaged in..." OVERT "...terrorism."'
but the vast majority of Muslims are doing absolutely nothing to stop it and instead teach their children, daily, to hate and hope to be a martyr in jihad.
R_not-
Of course.
The COVERT was implied.
The Slo-mo Jihad.
The Soft Invasion.
"Silence is assent".
Greetings:
Will someone please send Prime Minister Brown the YouTube link for the "What do these people have in common?" video?
Quickly, please.
Now let's list all groups, factions across the planet, who are engaged in global terrorism, *other than Islamic*, and doing it explicitly in the name of their chosen religion.
Who will start the list?
otranto -- Thank you.
Josephine, otranto beat me to it, once you have finished reading that you will realise that Europe is effectively dead...
The vast majority of Muslims may not be "engaged in terrorism" but that is not the right question to be answering. How many Muslims engage in, think they have a duty collectively or at times individually, in Jihad to spread Islam, by whatever means prove most effective, so that Islam everywhere dominates, and Muslims rule everywhere?
How many take Muhammad as "uswa hasana" (the excellent example or model of conduct), as "al-insan al-kamil" (the Perfect Man), despite his approval of the murders of Asma bint Marwan, who mocked him in verse, and Abu Akaf, and the decapitation of the helpless prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, and the attack on the inoffensive Jewish farmers tilling their soil, unawares, in the Khaybar Oasis, in order to steal their property and seize their women? And how many Muslims believe, as they have been taught to believe, that the essential division of the universe is between Believer and Infidel, and the lands where each now prevails, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, and that a permanent state of war -- though not necessarily active warfare -- exists and must exist between them?
And how many Muslims participate in the Jihad in ways that do not require acts of terror -- through the instruments of the Money Weapon, unceasing campaigns of Da'wa, and demographic conquest?
He, Gordon Brown, and a thousand other gordon-browns, are not asking, much less answering, the right questions.
They fail to instruct those who can only be protected if they are properly instructed so that, as the people in a democratic polity, they will properly know what they need to fear, and what policies they need therefore to necessarily support.
He, Blair, Bush, Cheney, Rice, the entire leadership of the E.U., have all failed, and continue to fail.
We are waiting, hoping for others to start speaking truthfully, unconfusedly.
maybe they need to be offended! they do nothing to help but complain about imaginary backlash. maybe if we did offend them we'de see if they are willing to kill over this offence or not. we all know that when a Muslim is offended they reach out and desperately try to understand and make peace *sarcasm off*
Test these people.
Brown: "Don't call me Stupid!"
Greetings:
Not only is Prime Minister Brown not on the right prayer rug, he isn't even in the right mosque.
This is just great. For two days we've had former jihadi Hassan Butt in the British newspapers and on the TV news, explaining very clearly how Islamic theology drives Islamist terror, the need for both the political establishment and Muslims to accept that fact, and the need to confront the theology before any progress can be made.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017197.php
Today, Gordon Brown comes out and in effect says that Butt - the former jihadi - is completely mistaken about his own motivation, and that there is no link whatsoever between Islam, Muslims, and terrorism.
Marvellous. Perhaps if we all stuck our fingers in our ears and sang la-la-la it might just go away completely?
Posted this before but in case anyone missed it, Gordon Browns praise and thanks to muslims.
http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/awards/news.php?article=8946
Every year fewer and fewer words, and the range of consciousness always a little smaller. Even now, of course, there's no reason or excuse for committing thoughtcrime. It's merely a question of self-discipline, reality-control.
Gordon Brown's statement would have be perfect if only he added "Islam is a religion of peace."
Idiot.
sorry. "been."
Brown see,s the BNP as a bigger threat than muslims.
The Britissh goverment is selling out britian by the Petro"d"allah
It's a brief window of opportunity before the demographic conquest makes any institutional action impossible. Then we'll be left with civil wars. Every nation is going to be Lebanon.
What Brown is doing is the same thing the American Democrats were trying to do. Now that Brown does exactly what the Americans were trying to do does this make Brown the American Poodle already?
I can see Winston Churchill passing the same rules in 1939. "Do not call Nazi's Germans. Not all Germans are Nazi's, but all Nazi's were Germans. But I repeat AGAIN do not call Nazi's Germans."
Yeah, right. Churchill, for Christsake, even Thatcher would kick Browns ass up one side and down the other.
We will see more of this in the future. When there is a problem the goverment will change the names, change the rules, and redefine the laws to make the problem go away.
If you make murder and rape legal, then when murder and rape happen no one has broken the law....move along. Remember New York in the 70's had a problem with having peoples jewelery getting stolen off of them in the streets. Big problem. The fix......make it illegal to wear gold jewelery on the streets in certain areas. You make the victim the criminal, and the criminal the victim that couldn't control theirselves.
I can guarentee you that if an IRA bomb went off, the goverment, Brown and the media would be pointing out the religion of the bomber.
If we sit back and watch what Brown does over the next 12 months we will see what has already been agreed upon for the actions of a new president in America should the Democrats win. Watch and learn how bad things are going to get.
What Brown is doing is the same thing the American Democrats were trying to do. Now that Brown does exactly what the Americans were trying to do does this make Brown the American Poodle already?
I can see Winston Churchill passing the same rules in 1939. "Do not call Nazi's Germans. Not all Germans are Nazi's, but all Nazi's were Germans. But I repeat AGAIN do not call Nazi's Germans."
Yeah, right. Churchill, for Christsake, even Thatcher would kick Browns ass up one side and down the other.
We will see more of this in the future. When there is a problem the goverment will change the names, change the rules, and redefine the laws to make the problem go away.
If you make murder and rape legal, then when murder and rape happen no one has broken the law....move along. Remember New York in the 70's had a problem with having peoples jewelery getting stolen off of them in the streets. Big problem. The fix......make it illegal to wear gold jewelery on the streets in certain areas. You make the victim the criminal, and the criminal the victim that couldn't control theirselves.
I can guarentee you that if an IRA bomb went off, the goverment, Brown and the media would be pointing out the religion of the bomber.
If we sit back and watch what Brown does over the next 12 months we will see what has already been agreed upon for the actions of a new president in America should the Democrats win. Watch and learn how bad things are going to get.
And so, as we slide further down the pan!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQLpG5b18pk
Australia: Islamic Terror Supporters Play The Race-Card, Again!
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/07/03/australia-islamic-terror-supporters-play-the-race-card-again/
Is gordon brown the lover of redken? Show your hackles, grow up and be men!
Great, another weak leader in Britainistan. Good luck UK, time is running out. Or maybe its too late.
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/2535.html
It's not too late.
If the Muslim population in Britain, was 10%+, then it would be too late, because it would have reached what is known as 'The point of no return'. Hell, even 5%+ is bad enough. I recall reading that it was something like 2-3% atm, not sure though.
Let's see how many more bloody jihad -- dedicated to Islam and Allah --attacks Mr. Brown's sensitiviy edicts survive? The Brits are not stupid and they will tire of these evasions eventually.
The BBC news was priceless. They kept going on about the common link: they were doctors, or student students, they all worked for that well known terrorist organisation the National Health Service, what could the link be?
It never actually mentioned at all they were all Muslims, even when they started interviewing young Muslims in some third world slum(somewhere in London I think it was).
I'm still waiting to see what the common link is, perhaps they all specialised in the same area of medicine, everything's up for grabs.
I've heard a couple of ex jihadist types saying in interviews that the Muslim theology is at the bottom of it, and that's what has to be challenged. One saying that the lines in the Koran about murdering people had to be challenged head on.
Obviously a bunch of middle class politicians from private schools, who've never had to work in factory, or live on a council estate know better.
There's something on channel 4 on Monday about Islam, which sounded interesting, I can't remember what at the moment, it comes to something when a private company with a public service remit has to do the BBC's job for it.
I think I am going to just start substituting the word Terrorist for Muslims or extremist Asian youth. They are synonyms after all. So we would now have Peaceful Terrorists, Moderate Terrorists, Jihadi Terrorists, Terrorist Extremists et ad nauseum. For example, "Peaceful Terrorists were demonstrating outside Buckingham Palace upset over the knighting of Sir Rushdie." or "The Ottomans killed or forced into exile the 80% of their non-Terrorist population at the turn of the previous century."
Metamoros: "For two days we've had former jihadi Hassan Butt in the British newspapers and on the TV news, explaining very clearly how Islamic theology drives Islamist terror, the need for both the political establishment and Muslims to accept that fact, and the need to confront the theology before any progress can be made....Today, Gordon Brown comes out and in effect says that Butt - the former jihadi - is completely mistaken about his own motivation, and that there is no link whatsoever between Islam, Muslims, and terrorism."
Seriously - what are things coming to when even the (ex) terrorists themselves can't get no respect!
An interview between a terrorist and a PC apologist:
PC apologist: So Ahmed - why did you do it?
Terrorist: Allahu Akhbar!
PC apologist (facing camera): He said, we did it because we are poor and hungry!
Terrorist: No I didn't say that! I said Allahu Akhbar. Allah is greatest!
PC apologist: He said, in other words, that this has nothing to do with Islam and that he is angry about the lack of opportunity for his children in Britain and he hopes that one day his wife can work in Britain and his daughter will have the opportunity to take swimming lessons.
Terrorist: What! Are you, crazy?? I don't want my wife to work or my daughter to take swimming lessons! I'm doing this for Allah! Allahu Akhbar!
PC apologist: And there you have it. From the terrorist himself – they are doing this so that we will better assimilate Muslim youth and make sure they have better social and economic opportunities in modern British society.
Terrorist: By now sounding like the Aflac duck, as his voice slowly fades into the distance:
Allahu Akhbar! Aflac! Allahu Akhbar! Aflac! Allahu Akbar! Aflac!...
(Don't worry - I'm keeping my day job:-))
Good satire, Caroline!
Ah, just remembered, the Channel 4 thing is about the Far Lefts unholy alliance with Islam.
Monday night, in the uk, if you're in America you get 3,000,000 channels or crap instead.
Could be interesting, Channel 4 is generally Left leaning and liberal, but for some reason, seems to recognise that there's something in Islam to be feared. Or at least recognises that the debate is open.
They've run programs on the man made climate change myth as well. Something else the BBC should be doing.
I hang my head in shame at what the BBC has become. Even when their pro islam journalists are kidnapped by Islamists, they can't stop. They've become a national disgrace.
"...attempt to improve community relations and avoid offending Muslims"
Sorry, Gordon. Relations with Muslim communities will never improve, and Muslims will always find a way to take offense. Water is wet. The sky is up. That's just the way it is.
"Don't say terrorists are Muslims"
Well then what the hell are they?
"We know that the vast majority of Muslims are not involved in terrorism and we have to accept there are sensitivities about these matters."
So, why can't we use "terrorist" and "Muslim" in the same sentence? Abdel Rahman al-Rashed did: (and he's Muslim himself!)
"It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists, but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims."
http://www.arabnews.com/9-11/?article=32&
Abdel Rahman al-Rashed is general manager of Al-Arabiya news channel. This article first appeared in the London-based pan-Arabic newspaper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat.
Another weak-tit leader of Britain. No surprise.
610 * 624 * 1066 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1948 * 1969 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2001
Surveying the candidates in the American presidential race, same.
Tancredo is anti-Dhimmi, but the MSM has relegated him to unelectability. Romney is saying the right things now, but we know he'll revert to Dhimmi behavior once in.
All this cuz the MSM is manipulating the race... and the public discourse around the Global Jihad OBL declared in his '96 fatwah, thus far a resounding success.
The key is the 6th Pillar of Islam. The non-Moslems in the MSM routinely use this Pillar to cow politicians and others into self-censorship.
To wit: Cal Thomas tried to break out of the sheep pen yesterday, and he's getting hammered today. Cal, or one of his family, may get killed tomorrow.
Another weak-tit leader of Britain. No surprise.
610 * 624 * 1066 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1948 * 1969 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2001
Surveying the candidates in the American presidential race, same.
Tancredo is anti-Dhimmi, but the MSM has relegated him to unelectability. Romney is saying the right things now, but we know he'll revert to Dhimmi behavior once in.
All this cuz the MSM is manipulating the race... and the public discourse around the Global Jihad OBL declared in his '96 fatwah, thus far a resounding success.
The key is the 6th Pillar of Islam. The non-Moslems in the MSM routinely use this Pillar to cow politicians and others into self-censorship.
To wit: Cal Thomas tried to break out of the sheep pen yesterday, and he's getting hammered today. Cal, or one of his family, may get killed tomorrow.
Another weak-tit leader of Britain. No surprise.
610 * 624 * 1066 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1948 * 1969 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2001
Surveying the candidates in the American presidential race, same.
Tancredo is anti-Dhimmi, but the MSM has relegated him to unelectability. Romney is saying the right things now, but we know he'll revert to Dhimmi behavior once in.
All this cuz the MSM is manipulating the race... and the public discourse around the Global Jihad OBL declared in his '96 fatwah, thus far a resounding success.
The key is the 6th Pillar of Islam. The non-Moslems in the MSM routinely use this Pillar to cow politicians and others into self-censorship.
To wit: Cal Thomas tried to break out of the sheep pen yesterday, and he's getting hammered today. Cal, or one of his family, may be killed tomorrow.
the uk is doomed. im ashamed to call my self a british nationalist.
Don't say terrorists are Muslims
Don't tell me what to say or do, mate.
This is bad, really bad. Every terrorist recently arrested or who died in the suicide attacks in the U.K. was a muslim. There is obviously a pattern here, a clear, distinct, undeniable PATTERN, for God's sake! I know everyone is sick of Tony Blair and opposed to his support of the war in Iraq, among other things, but his replacement is not at all impressive. I heard him make a brief and monotonous statement after the thwarted and bungled terror attacks last weekend. After Mr. Blair, this man sounds positively moribund and sort of looks that way too. Sorry, but he is not a magnetic personality. I'm sure he is highly qualified and extremely talented, but he hides it well.
It is discouraging to realize that Mr. Brown is more of a dhimmi than Blair, very sad indeed. It is even sadder that the feelings of muslims are more important than the security of the country Mr. Brown now leads. When the dreaded "backlash" against muslim jihadists finally occurs, it's going to be ugly and then Mr. Brown, Mr. Blair, and Mr. Bush, (the three B's,) will scratch their empty heads and wonder where they went wrong.
Is this the final nail in the coffin for the UK? I thought that France would be the first country in Eurabia to be under sharia law. But under the "leadership" of this idiot Brown, the UK might have that dubious distinction. Welcome to the Islamic Republic of Englandistan! I guess the British girls better get in line to trade in their miniskirts for burkas.
Brown; "Don't say terrorists are muslim." Well gordon brown, do you suppose it's IRA women in green burkus?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/017229.php#c417346
ROTFL.
Brown? "Why do I feel terrorized?" Brown is enabler. Now I know why that book is called Ghost War! Who are these people Brown then? The new good people of the new land? ...
'Allahu ackbaring' in public oughtta be against the law, not the other way around, Mr. Brown.
Muslims are terrorists.
Muslims who are not terrorists are Islamizing our societies and overcoming democracy with Islamic immigration.
The next 20 years will see many democracies fall and new Islamic states arise.
God (NOT Allah)forbid Mr. Brown should tell the truth. It would certainly offend the Muslims and make them want to kill the British. But since he's a politician, telling the truth might be against Mr. Brown's religion.
Yes, that was very good, Caroline. Spot on.
Not all Germans were Nazis, but all of the Nazis were German.
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all of the terrorists are Muslims.
those doctors in the uk who were involved in the terror attacks are wolves in sheeps' clothing.
Strictly speaking, American-Palamite, not all Nazis WERE German - the Nazis had plenty of English-speaking fellow-travellers, enablers and admirers in both Britain and America. Not to mention their Arab admirers...
I would have said: "not all Muslims are terrorists, but THE VAST MAJORITY OF PRESENT-DAY terrorists are Muslims". Since, to be accurate, there ARE a small number of current conflicts involving acts of terror by non-Muslims: in Nepal there is a big problem with Maoist terrorists (probably funded/ encouraged by China) and in Sri Lanka there's something of a civil war going on between Sinhalese (culturally Buddhist) and Tamil (culturally Hindu? I don't THINK the Tamil Tigers are a Muslim outfit, even if they did invent the suicide bomber).
Of course, the scarey thing about Islam is that someone can be a 'peaceful', lax, infidel-befriending Muslim-in-name-only today, and then they start hitting the religious books or visit the wrong website or a new imam starts preaching at the mosque, and, bingo! overnight they turn into a jihad murderer. And we infidels have NO way to predict, ahead of time, which 'lax' Muslim is going to do a Hirsi Ali or a Patrick Sookhdeo and turn into a full-blown apostate (hurrah! for those that do), and which one is going to suddenly get that old-time religion and start blowing things up.
So it is the duty of our authorities, whose task it is to restrain evil, to assume the worst: and watch ALL Muslims ALL the time, just as during WWII ALL Germans and Japanese were watched.
Given the scale of the mayhem even one jihadist can cause, whether by bombs or by stealth sabotage (think of that girls' school in Iraq, wired to go boom! at some future date), then in order to save the maximum number of lives within the lands of the Infidels, logic says we shouldn't take the risk of letting any more Muslims in, no matter how 'peaceful' many may actually be. We know already that they don't necessarily STAY peaceful.
Logic may well demand the next step: that Infidel lands with Muslim populations should emulate 15th century Spain and 19th century Greece and deport them all (except for child brides, battered wives, women victims of attempted or threatened honour killings, and bona fide apostates, the kind who are already in hiding because of death threats or actual attacks). Start with the illegals, the polygamists, those convicted of crimes, those who have demonstrably incited to jihad, those who have advocated sharia in any way shape or form.
How about a population swap? All persecuted Christians, Hindus, etc. from Muslim lands get a ticket, subject to the usual security checks, into the same non-Muslim lands that are evicting Muslims as too potentially dangerous and too expensive to monitor (and any Muslim trying to pull a swifty by posing as a persecuted non-Muslim will be severely punished and booted out, as soon as detected).
In the end, our guiding principle should be the saving of lives within the Infidel lands - no more hidden 'fifth column' such as this cabal of jihad doctors - and the creation of a defensible sharia-free zone. Creating and defending such a zone is an act of love for humanity - even for future ex-Muslims, since apostates, like defectors in the Cold War era, will need somewhere to run to.
So can I say that moslems are all terrorists instead?