It seems that some of the jihad doctors were Cambridge men. By Peter Wilson in The Australian (thanks to PRCS):
A CLIQUE of friends in Cambridge has emerged as the key to the network of Arab and Indian doctors linked to the failed car bombs in London and Glasgow.British police -- who had been trying to understand how the young medical workers arrested in England, Scotland and Australia came together in a suspected terror cell -- have made a major breakthrough by confirming the Cambridge connection.
Four of the suspects, including the two men who rammed a car into a Glasgow airport terminal last Saturday, spent time working or studying in the university town, where some of them socialised and prayed with members of the radical group Hizb ut-Tahir.
Bilal Abdulla, 27, the passenger in the Glasgow car, fellow doctor Mohammed Asha, 26, and his wife, Dana (Marwah), worked together at Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge in 2005.
Kafeel Ahmed, the driver of the airport car, who is close to death with major burns, studied as an engineer at Anglia Ruskin University in Cambridge at that time and is believed to have made the group's bombs....
Hizb ut-Tahir, banned in some Muslim countries but active in Britain and Australia, advocates an international caliphate, or Islamic government, to run countries with a majority Muslim population under sharia law.
A spokesman for Hizb ut-Tahir in Britain last night denied that the medical workers arrested over the attacks had been members.
But Hizb ut-Tahir member Shiraz Maher told the BBC's Newsnight program the men seized in Glasgow shared the group's beliefs and associated with followers in Cambridge.
Other ex-members of Hizb ut-Tahir have accused it of grooming supporters as terrorists.
One disaffected member in Britain, Ed Husain, told The Weekend Australian that Hizb ut-Tahir withheld formal membership from some associates so it could deny they were members if they had legal problems.
British Opposition Leader David Cameron urged the Brown Government to ban Hizb ut-Tahir, saying it "was poisoning the minds of young people and has said that Jews should be killed wherever they are found".
Mr Maher said that during his time in Hizb ut-Tahir in Cambridge he had been a friend of Abdulla and Kafeel Ahmed.
The men "held views which were largely supportive of the killing of American and British troops in Iraq", he said.
They wanted a caliphate set up to rule the world, including countries without majority Muslim populations, he said.
Abdulla Ahmed had kept videos of al-Qa'ida members beheading hostages and would celebrate news of coalition troops killed in Iraq, he said.
Police had been trying to work out the connections between the three Indians, two Jordanians (Dr Asha and his wife), one Iraqi-Briton and two unnamed men from another Arab country, who between them lived in four different cities.
That link appears to be the time several of them spent in Cambridge, where Kim Philby, Donald MacLean and Guy Burgess were recruited as Soviet spies in the 1930s.
There might be another, ideological/religious connection, but I know that many authorities don't want to hear anything about that.
Dr Asha was arrested last week with his wife. Dr Abdulla is a British citizen of Iraqi descent who did his medical training in Baghdad and has been described by friends and former teachers there as a radical Islamist. He most recently worked at a hospital in Glasgow where two unnamed Arabs have been arrested....
That's refreshing. Usually friends and neighbors describe a jihad suspect as the sweetest, gentlest guy in the world, wouldn't hurt a fly, and, why, they're shocked -- shocked! -- by these allegations against such a decent fellow.
Islam is not only evil, it is seditious and should be outlawed in any civil country, forbidden everywhere else and attacked in all circumstances.
No, not "Cambridge men." Working, and possibly studying, and certainly living for a time, in Cambridge, East Anglia, England, Great Britain --a place called Anglia Ruskin College is mentioned, as is Addenbrooke's hostpital. This does not amount to studying or working at the University of Cambridge, any more than those summer classes at the "Cambridge School of English" in Cambridge, or the "Oxford School of English" in Oxford, or the "Harvard School of English" in Cambridge, Massachusetts, or the Oxbridge School of Anything Anywhere, has any connection at all to Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, Oxbridge, respectively.
This doesn't mean that there are not all kinds of insidious people at Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, and so on. There are. But these particular ones don't fit the bill.
London Mayor Ken Livingstone is planning to use tax payers' money to build an enormous mosque costing an estimated £100M. The mosque will be bigger than St. Paul's and Wembley! The plan is for the mosque to be so big so that people flying in from all over the world for the 2012 Olympics will see it as the biggest landmark in London. The vote so far is 56% in favour.
The Muslim community in the UK is casting its vote in droves, and as usual, the Dhimlishers are burying their heads in the sand.... It is an undemocratic use of British Tax payers' money, especially when Churches that are hundreds of years old get no government funding to keep their structures standing... and this in a supposedly Christian Nation. To vote to "Scrap the Mega-Mosque" please sign the official Government petition in the link below: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ScrapMegaMosque/ Please, after voting, forward this to as many people as you can.
"One disaffected member in Britain, Ed Husain, told The Weekend Australian that Hizb ut-Tahir withheld formal membership from some associates so it could deny they were members if they had legal problems."
.......take note and remember it the next time you hear a Muslim organization denying the terrorist belongs to them....Islam is all about lying....
Ban Muslim Immigration...
"Police had been trying to work out the connections between the three Indians, two Jordanians (Dr Asha and his wife), one Iraqi-Briton and two unnamed men from another Arab country, who between them lived in four different cities."
....Hey Bobbie!....it is Islam.....
Angryeagle: I too have come to the conclusion that Islam is just awful, that it is, when practiced according to its own principles, a totalitarian ideology (and no other major religion is, a crucial distinction always to be kept in mind). But how are we going to stop its proliferation here in America because of the First Amendment? Muslims will use our own laws and constitution against us. Hell, they're already doing so. I fear we are in more trouble than most Americans yet realize. And even when the proper realization comes, then what?
Imagine what is happening in Harvard....
OT but an interesting development.
Seems that the Scots are getting a little bit peeved. There seems to have been 28 recorded racist attacks since the bombing of Glasgow airport
http://www.irr.org.uk/2007/july/ak000018.html
Mind you they can be a trifle rumbustious if they are rubbed up the wrong way. The Germans in the first world war always referred to them as devils in skirts. Being to put it mildly, somewhat clannish lot, they do not take too kindly if someone attacks one of there own. They will certainly have not forgotten the Kriss Donald affair. To refresh our readers memories here is a somewhat mild link. The real story is a little bit more horrific
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriss_Donald
These are not the real reasons of cause. Somebody has most likely been spreading vicious and slanderous rumors that when the muslims take over that they plan to close down all the whiskey distilleries. We all know that this is not true, but the thought of not being able to have a wee dram of John Walker, would certainly concentrate most Scotsman's minds.
Imagine what is happening in Harvard....
you add most Western Univ!
"Baghdad and has been described by friends and former teachers there as a radical Islamist." What would define him as "radical". It couldn't be that, "They wanted a caliphate set up to rule the world, including countries without majority Muslim populations" could it? How would this make them "radical"? Tell me please. I'd say to borrow a phrase ... he just isn't a "lazy" Muslim. The main difference between "radical", and non radical Muslims was described by Robert well when he said and I'm paraphrasing here. Muslims who are not radical are just lazy, the radical ones are the ones that actually follow scripture. These are just Muslims whom aren't lazy.
I fear we are in more trouble than most Americans yet realize. And even when the proper realization comes, then what?
posted by Wellington
Well, if you're an atheist, go ahead and give up!
Or if your a Christian, get you to Church and begin educating others. Choose a Church that is strategically located close to an "islamic" mosque or meeting place. Attend every "interfaith" gathering where muhammadans confront Christians. Come armed with Quran and other texts. Educate! Educate! Create a reading group in your adopted Church. Order the text "Mohammed, Allah, and the Christians: The Foundational Doctrine" from the Center for the Study of Political Islam. Website: http://www.cspipublishing.com
Hogler D.
Isn't it still against the law for Scotts to fight? What will the English do? Wouldn't want to upset the Scotts now too!
Wellington wrote
". . .But how are we going to stop its proliferation here in America because of the First Amendment? . . ."
It is discouraging with the PC thinking that is going on now a days. What I suggest is to argue that Islam is a political threat and it's teachings are advocating the overthrow of our government. They are hiding in religion and people in this country equate that to church-state separation. The Koran is nothing but line after line of hate speech to use a left wing phrase. But I think this is a waste of energy arguing against Islam from a religious POV. Even though I agree with how evil and debasing Islam is.
The argument needs to be redefined that their agenda is to overthrow the government and force their perverted way of life on us. They need to be painted in the same light as the Nazis, Communists or Fascist. It might take a constitutional amendment. I had heard somewhere that people are starting a grassroots movement to band Islam in the US. I for one would sign today.
KEY BUZZ WORD - "overthrow the government"
@ Wellington
And even when the proper realization comes, then what?
**********
Don't worry. By the time muslims have sucked our life blood out, we'll be helpless to do anything.
It'll be a painless transition. We might not be here to see it, but all out children and grand children will be muslims and they'll all live happilly ever after as allah's good little deciples.
No one apart from a few of us on these web sites and media, no one gives a toss.
Wellington wrote
". . .But how are we going to stop its proliferation here in America because of the First Amendment? . . ."
The First Amendment is our best friend. It allows for this sight to operate. It allows us to discuss Islam freely and its dangers. Free speech in the country exposes hate mongers for what thay are. Our battle is to win the argument. The first Amendment allows us to have the argument.
Wellington wrote
". . .But how are we going to stop its proliferation here in America because of the First Amendment? . . ."
It is easy. Qu’ran 9:29 calls for extortion. Extortion is a RICO Predicate and, since it’s been going on for more than ten years, a ‘pattern of racketeering activity’ is established. Therefore Islam is a ‘corrupt organization’ and anyone ‘associated’ with Islam (Muslims) are in violation of the RICO Statutes. Islam does not qualify for First Amendment protections.
Muslims can be offered the option to choose Apostasy. Those who do not take that choice should be deported with a re-location allowance.
Love it Pez. I've heard others call for Islam to be defined as a cult instead of a religion and be outlawed on that basis. What is your take on that? Like the RICO angle though.
I posted this over on DW as well. There I ws completely OT, here not quite.
Apologies in advance for this, and if you want to pull it, that’s fine - but here’s the latest from the UK.
You might want to put this up as a full post:
Vitally important for us to know (and what are the equivalent numbers in America, Australia, European countries, Canada etc?).
http://haddock-somethingfishy.blogspot.com/2007/07/scary.html
“” Scary ?
from Daily Telegraph letters page today;
Ethnic Border Guards
Sir - There are certainly very serious questions to be asked about the manning, mission and effectiveness of the Border and Immigration Agency of the Home Office, previously the Immigration and Nationality Directorate (Letters, July 5). It says its role is “securing our borders, enforcing our immigration laws and managing migration to the benefit of the UK”. Its catastrophic failure to perform these functions correctly is plain for all to see.
When I said to a previous Home Secretary that the controls at our ports of entry were “beacons of political correctness”, he replied that I had made a demeaning remark. I therefore asked the Home Office what proportion of its staff in the various immigration, identity and passport services were from ethnic minorities.
Given that ethnic minorities are estimated to form about 6.7 per cent of our total population of working age, I was alarmed to receive the reply that, of those staff whose ethnicity was recorded, 29 per cent of the Immigration and Nationality Directorate, 30 per cent of the Immigration Service and 14 per cent of the Identity and Passport Service were from ethnic minorities.
While it is only right and proper that all law-abiding bona fide citizens, regardless of ethnicity, should have equal opportunities, the manning of our front-line immigration services is curiously disproportionate. It does not promote confidence in the agencies responsible for the control of our borders and therefore the security and integrity of our nation.
Geoffrey Van Orden MEP, Conservative Defence and Security Spokesman, Brussels “”
[[SHM adds: Note: “of those staff whose ethnicity was recorded …” - so how high is the actual number in these departments? And how many are Muslims?
The government CAN’T be doing this out of sheer incompetence. No one, not even this bunch could be that incompetent. They MUST have an agenda.
How many jihadis are getting through that even the intelligence services and police don’t know about? THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF!… we need to know]]
Go have a read, with Captain Haddock’s usual pithy comment added on.
PS I think our countries, people and cultures are being betrayed by our leaderships - knowingly.
It is easy to figure why they came together at Cambridge. They were nostalgic for chop chop Fridays and other cultural delights from their homeland. It was their quaint way out of envy of western culture they could plausibly establish that infidels are inferior to us while at the same demonstrating their command over infidels by taking infidel lives.
First of all to "pez" I would like to extend my compliments to you for original legal reasoning, although I don't think it will wash. But more seriously I would like to respond to those who think I'm PC or atheistic or somehow don't get things properly. I am neither an atheist nor a PC-type person but I am a lawyer and I'm saying here that I envision far more scenarios whereby our First Amendment will be used against us (principally by liberal judges) to further Islamic infiltration of our country rather than to prevent such an occurrence. The one thing I think all non-Muslims, regardless of religious belief, should agree upon is that Islam is not just another religion. It is a poltical ideology with a legal system that is intended for everyone and is the only major religion that justifies the use of force to spread the faith. Furthermore, while education is indeed an invaluable tool in combatting Islam, it will not be enough. My more specific concern here is the use of our own constitutional and jurisprudential institutions against us by Muslims. I have to wonder if the day may come when we will need an additional constitutional amendment stating that freedom of religion in American society does not extend to Islam.
Ameriki said
Isn't it still against the law for Scotts to fight? What will the English do? Wouldn't want to upset the Scotts now too!
No it is not against the law for the Scots to fight , and what will we English do, exactly the same as the Scots, it just takes us a little long to get warmed up, as for not wanting to upset the Scots go and give that excellent advice to your muslim friends. In fact send them this extract from an article printed in 2004. This is what happens when the Scots get a little bit peeved. Mind you they weren't playing fair were they. They were playing the bagpipes and it disorientated the Shit militia otherwise the Shits would have won.
troops fixed bayonets and fought hand to hand with a Shi’ite militia in southern Iraq in one of their fiercest clashes since the war was declared more than a year ago, it was reported last night.
Soldiers from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders mounted what were described as "classic infantry assaults" on firing and mortar positions held by more than 100 fighters loyal to the outlawed cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, according to military sources.
At least 20 men from al-Sadr’s army were believed killed in more than three hours of fighting - the highest toll reported in any single incident involving British forces in the past 12 months.
Nine fighters were captured and three British soldiers injured, none seriously.
"It was very bloody and it was difficult to count all their dead," one source was quoted as saying. "There were bodies floating in the river."
LOL I was being sarcastic friend, and these Muslims are no friends of mine. I read John Muirs autobiography. In there he talks about getting into fights everyday .... sometimes even two if he had to finish left over buisness from the day before on the way to school. He made menton that technically fighting was against the law for Scotts. Judging by your article seems the Scotts still like to scrap. Sorry my humor was a bit lame.
SHM
Coming back from the US last month, I was shocked to see that three out of of the five passport officers on the control desks, were fully hijabed Muslimas.
Ameriki / Wellington / all;
There will come a time when the electorate (or perhaps a military government) demands that something be done. It won’t be enough to say ‘it was only Seattle’ or ‘the virus only took out 10% of the infant and elder population’. Maybe it will be the collapse of the social safety net.
Within a generation, the American political system, whatever it looks like, will be seeking creative legal ways to deal with the problem. RICO is one way to do it. A Constitutional Amendment is another.
SHM posted: PS I think our countries, people and cultures are being betrayed by our leaderships - knowingly.
One does get that feeling. It is hard to conceive that what is going on is just coincidence.
Humor explained. If it is true that it is techically against the law for Scots to fight, then possibly if you brought it up as means to try and controll them in thier violence against Islamic targets it may make them mad. Thusly, spurring them on even more. Get it? Yeah lame.
Dear Ameriki,
apology accepted you might however like to peruse these link of a couple of long forgotten Scottish soldiers, well worth the effort
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Campbell,_1st_Baron_Clyde
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Napier%2C_1st_Baron_Napier_of_Magdala
Ynkedoodl2
116.000 or so have signed that petition. the last one i signed after the first one was scrapped the government sent me a friendly warning with some verbage about not inflaming situations or communities, it was a pathethic response from TB's office. now after this latest bomb attempt and attack in glasgow and hamas's BBC victory, the UK, suffering from "stockholm syndrome" will cave to this new attempt by "red" ken livingstone to firmly establish the Ummah within central London.
116.000 and growing, but at the end of the day, literally, (5pm 18th july 2007) the UK government will not listen to british citizens, they will, however, listen to a vocal, radical and very violent jihadist minority who have infested our hospitals, governments and police forces across the UK.
expect london to become the capital of islam in europe within our lifetime.
Re. the bolded paragraphs dealing with Hizb ut-Tahrir: paging all my fellow Australians in this community, posters and lurkers.
Let's each send a copy of this article to 1. the Defence Minister and Shadow 2. The Foreign Affairs Minister and Shadow 3. the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition 4. the Education Minister and Shadow 5. the Minister for Immigration. 6. our local Federal MP and those who would like to get his/ her seat in the next election. Each time with these words - I will vote for you IF YOU WILL VOTE TO BAN HIZB UT-TAHRIR AND DEPORT ALL KNOWN SUPPORTERS. And...stop all Muslim immigration, forthwith, as of yesterday.
Another copy should go to the RSL (Returned Servicemen's League), with the warning - the enemy is within the gates.
Let our politicians know that there is NOTHING so important to us as the continued survival of our society with all the freedoms our ANZACs died to defend.
I just read V S Naipaul's terrifying account of what Islam does to societies - Iran, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, in 'Among the Believers'. I am quite, quite sure that 'Beyond Belief', where he revisits the same places 20 years later, will be worse.
Throwaway line in 'among the believers' - an Islamist in Indonesia actually SAID to V S NAIPAUL that after Timor, Australia was next in their sights. Yes.
“No, not "Cambridge men." Working, and possibly studying, and certainly living for a time, in Cambridge, East Anglia, England, Great Britain --a place called Anglia Ruskin College is mentioned, as is Addenbrooke's hostpital”
Thanks, Hugh, for putting the record straight. Reminds me of the vogue for teashirts some years ago proclaiming “Cambridge University”. Wearing one actually confirmed you weren’t a Cambridge man.
But whatever happened about that nasty business at Clare a while back? The press has gone completely silent on the issue, as it usually does in such cases. I hope the undergraduate who had the effrontery to be rude about Islam wasn’t disciplined, as seemed to be threatened at the time. Anyone got any news about this?
PEZ and Wellington,
I am also a lawyer. I agree 100% that something along the lines of consitutional amendment will be needed to address this threat properly.
I think Foehammer posted a proposed amendment here a while back but I think it is also on his website.
As I recall it was a bit too lengthly for an amendment. I was more of a detailed statute.
I also drafted one, much shorter a month or so ago.
I would be curious to see what other drafts would look like.
Leave Iraq Now: Thank you for your input. The more I've pondered the threat that Islam poses to America (methinks principally from demographics rather than terrorism, although reasonable minds can differ here), the more I am forced to conclude that a constitutional amendment banning Islam might be the only way to go. And for those who point out (correctly) that Islam must be exposed as also a political ideology, I would say so what? It would still be protected by the First Amendment. After all, the Communist Party and the American Nazi Party are legal here precisely because of the First Amendment. We've got real trouble ahead in River City.
…me thinks principally from demographics rather than terrorism…
Very true but...
The American Muslim population is 2.7 million out of over 300 million. This number includes the African converts whose interest is grievance-based rather than faith-based. Assuming a Muslim fertility rate triple than of us Infidels, it will be decades before they make up a significant demographic.
Here’s what happens in the meantime:
1. The check comes due for the $70 trillion (growing by $3 trillion per year and accelerating) in unfunded entitlement liabilities.
2. The electorate turns on the tax base.
3. The tax base leaves.
4. The checks stop showing up.
5. Our obesity epidemic is cured.
6. With an approval rating for Congress of 14% and the approval rating for the military of around 70%, it is entirely feasible that the government goes the way of Thailand or Pakistan.
The new government loses some old Constitutional Amendments and gains a new one:
The practice of faiths based on the teachings of Mohammed are forbidden in the United States of America.
The first preview will be either Sweden, Denmark, or France. It won’t happen until the credit ratings go away. The Western democracies are moving very close to the edge.
I purposed banning Islam on a popular blog and it got me banned :-) Good to see there are more clear headed thinking people here. I look at the long term and I rather face the problem now than deal with a demographic Islamic bomb later.
Well, Pez, I have to hand it to you again for original thinking, although I'm not quite sure which Constitutional amendments you want to lose. I would argue that the 21st Amendment negating the 18th should remain the lone exception here. I think we can keep the 1st (and I sure hope we do) if only we make an exception for that lovely religion of peace and tolerance called Islam.
the 19 on 9/11 were well educated and well to do......... this does not prevent islamofascism.......
The Constitution was never meant to be used by a death cult as a shield while it seeks to replace the Constitution.
THE BILL OF RIGHTS 1791
"The Bill of Rights is a born rebel. It reeks with sedition. In every clause it shakes its fist in the face of constituted authority...it is the one guarantee of human freedom to the American people"
FRANK L. COBB AMERICAN NEWSPAPERMAN
FRAMED (ALONG WITH ALL 10) FOR 27 YEARS ON
MY OFFICE WALL , FOR MY ADULT CHILDREN, MY DEAD SOLDIER FRIENDS, AND ALL OF YOU
nodak; Numbers 1-10 are bedrock because of the words contained in Federalist #46:
“To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence.”
Nodak: I would not aver that the Bill of Rights reeks with sedition. Frank L. Cobb got it wrong. Very wrong. What the Bill of Rights does resonate with is the protection of individual rights. This is far different from sedition. One knows this or should know it. Look in any dictionary and you will find that sedition is defined as conduct or language inciting to rebellion. James Madison and his peers did not intend the Bill of Rights to be used for seditious purposes. The protection of minority rights against any possible tyranny by the majority does not include the license to impose minority views upon the majority by the use of force or treasonable behavior (including, I might add, the replacement of the US Constitution by Islamic religious law, something any devout Muslim must desire). Cobb's dictum is a sound bite, and a bad one at that, and not a sapient assessment of the American Bill of Rights. You are confused, sir.
Meanwhile, those claiming to represent Britain's Academic community refuse to cooperate with the Government's attempts to identify radical Islamists on campuses because it is "racist". And the lunatic left-wing dross who claim to speak for British academics continue to rage their racist war on Israel. It won't be long now until it will be fashionable and clever to be holocaust denier. It will become acceptable amongst some of Britain's chattering classes to say that perhaps the holocaust was a hoax after all, dreamed up by the Zionists to be used as an excuse for the creation of the state of Israel.
The link up between Hugo Chavez's socialist Venezuela and holocaust-denying Iran is a perfect example of the convergence of Islamism and Socialism.
As Melanie Phillips said in her blog this week: we are loosing.
Those who love freedom, will do whatever it takes to maintain it. Those that don't, will lose it.
Qu’ran 9:29 calls for extortion. Extortion is a RICO Predicate and, since it’s been going on for more than ten years, a ‘pattern of racketeering activity’ is established.
Pez,
Isn't this easier said than done? In religion everything is open to interpretation. Muslims are not in a position to impose the jizya on others, unless they are allowed to set up sharia law zones that require all within them to conform. There would be an easier case, but then do you get to punish all members of the "faith"? Since most Muslims in the US are assimilated, in a manner of speaking, can it be done?
Wouldn't the legal case for deporting people like the Somali taxi drivers be an easier one to make, since they are posing a very real threat to the system of transportation in a major traffic hub? Their actions were a real case of racketeering, but does that mean that all Muslims can be held responsible? Isn't the other problem that Islam is diffuse? Every mosque is akin to a franchise, rather than a wholly-owned subsidiary of Islam.
PMK;
Everything changes once Orwell's 'Problem of Overproduction' turns into the 'Problem of Underproduction'. It has already happened.
As soon as the creditors come for the money, the world shifts towards Asia.
Thank God for military hardware.
PMK;
Everything changes once Orwell's 'Problem of Overproduction' turns into the 'Problem of Underproduction'. It has already happened.
As soon as the creditors come for the money, the world shifts towards Asia.
Thank God for military hardware.
Quit over analyzing it. It's going to take a concerted effort for those who are against Jihad. Not legal MoJo or pc Idiocy. You are going to have to commit yourself.
How do you do that? I don't know. Together, perhaps we will come to a conclusion. Please, let's try..without the reactionary response.
"kafeel ahmed, driver of the airport car, who is close to death with major burns." Is'nt Major Burns the guy on the tv series MASH? (mobile Army surgical hospital) Anyway, no morphine drip.
Necessity is the mother of invention. When we in the west make our move against Islam in the interest of preserving our societies I believe the solution will be simple and effective. It will have to be something with little nuance. Something consumable by the masses. If you look at history such moves are never done with much politeness. When we are pushed to that point look to history as your guide. Try Spain, specifically what happened after the recoquista. Minus the weekend outing for a public burning at the stake, we may see similar laws effected. Brutal, simple effective.
"Coming back from the US last month, I was shocked to see that three out of of the five passport officers on the control desks, were fully hijabed Muslimas.
Posted by: DP111"
.......it is even worse than that, there are also Muslims working in the baggage areas and the people in the offices clearing the visa applications are Muslims....
....the clouds of terror are gathering overhead....