"Iraqi politicians are simply trying to keep the government from disintegrating."
By Sam Dagher for the Christian Science Monitor (thanks to Andrew Bostom):
Baghdad - Iraq is in the throes of its worst political crisis since the fall of Saddam Hussein with the new democratic system, based on national consensus among its ethnic and sectarian groups, appearing dangerously close to collapsing, say several politicians and analysts.This has brought paralysis to governmental institutions and has left parliament unable to make headway on 18 benchmarks Washington is using to measure progress in Iraq, including legislation on oil revenue sharing and reforming security forces.
And the disconnect between Baghdad and Washington over the urgency for solutions is growing. The Iraqi parliament is set for an August vacation as the Bush administration faces pressure to show progress in time for a September report to Congress.
At the moment, Iraqi politicians are simply trying to keep the government from disintegrating. On Friday, top Iraqi officials were set to convene in the Kurdish north for a crisis summit, in the hopes that talks held outside of Baghdad's politically poisonous atmosphere may bring some resolution to the current political standstill. President Jalal Talabani and his two deputies, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the president of the semiautonomous Kurdish region, Massoud Barzani, were set to meet at the Salaheddin summer resort at the end of a difficult week.
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GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME
Chairmen Of The Board - Peak Position #3 0n 2-7-70
Chorus: Give me just a little more time
And our love will surely grow
Give me just a little more time
And our love will surely grow
Where the hell is Saddam when we need him? He'd have Iraq towing the line if he were still around. The only thing the Islamic world understands is an iron fist, and boy did he have one.
Li'l Bush just doesn't understand what it takes to defeat the enemy. It's time for the civilized world to become uncivilized and do what necessary to erradicate the unvirtuous idelogy of Islam!
We can be nice (and civilized) again once the job is done.
Release the hounds! (Monte Burns; The Simpsons)
Whoops....ideology.
IT'S
THE
ISLAM
STUPID ! ! ! ! !
Didn't like Saddam? Job done!
Bit wary of WMD? No worries there!
Need Oil? The Kurds are our friends!
Watching the Shia and Sunni nutjobs tear each other apart?
PRICELESS!
Shame the average Joe in Iraq has to suffer, but we offered a nice shiny world and the Islamists turned it into bloody shite.
Point Operation Niagra at Tehran, and then move out and move on.
Watch out folks...I just read that Jordan is complaining about the number of Iraqi refugees they had to take in.....they are pushing politically for more "refugees" to go to western countries.
If Iraq falls apart, it will get worse, much worse. And they'll be OVER HERE because of the fools in our government.
If Iraq falls apart, it will get worse, much worse. And they'll be OVER HERE because of the fools in our government.
Posted by: treehugger
O, no question about! George Almighty ibn-Bush broke Iraq and now the USA owns it. We own all the goddamned muhammadans in it. Tarbaby Iraq. Stuck with it. It's enough to make me pull every last hair out of my friggin' head. Bush, a fool and the father of fools and a liar from the beginning. What did we do to deserve that ass-clown?
They must also have felt it was safer to hold a meeting in the Kurdish section. Gee...I wonder why.
Lebanon fell apart. Yugoslavia couldn't survive the death of Tito. Both of those governments functioned for decades but ultimately gave way to sectarian violence. Iraq is strike three. It must be a coincidence that all three have a Muslim component.
Iraq also appears to be on fast-forward. Speed up act one - creating a unified government. Skip acts two and three where everyone works together, or at least makes the effort. Head straight for the climax of civil war. Act five has yet to be written.
Get the hell out and let them fight it out amongst themselves. And make sure they don't follow us home...
Guard the oil fields, help the Kurds, keep the Syrian and Iranian borders secure, and let the Iraqis act like adults and defend their own damned country.
They should have been doing it for 2 years already.
The training wheels have to come off.
They'll remain crippled and indecisive by our endlessly supporting them otherwise.
All praise is for Allah, King of the Universe
who irresistably lowers false idols like America with his supremacy.
All praise is for Allah, who says:
"Take not the jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them. Verily Allah guides not a people unjust." (Al-Ma'ida 5:51)
Blessings and peace be on Muhammad, the best of creation.
Iraqi collaborators have obviously commited apostasy and treason, and will be rightfully slaughtered after the Crusader forces of hate are defeated by the lions of Iraqi Resistance.
I mean think about it dude, you want to kill Adam Gadahn (may Allah protect and strengthen him) but Iraqis shouldn't execute Maliki (may Allah soak him in the Fire)?
Always double standards from you man.
Regarding jaguar_b_p's (may God smite his ignorant ass) post ... is there a way comments can be ignored by user name so I can avoid such rubbish?
All my condemnations for the devil-god Allah, bringer of death and misery. A thousand curses upon the charlatan Muhammad.
"If Iraq falls apart, it will get worse, much worse. And they'll be OVER HERE because of the fools in our government." Posted by: treehugger
AHH! Now I understand what Bush meant when he said "fight them over there or fight them over here"
"Iraqi collaborators have obviously commited apostasy and treason, and"
" will be rightfully slaughtered "
Oh, the love.
" after the Crusader forces of hate are defeated "
Isn't that pot calling the pot black?
"Get the hell out and let them fight it out amongst themselves. And make sure they don't follow us home..." Posted by: sheik yer'mami
No following required sheik. Our dumb, bleeding heart, lefty governments will bring them all home.
I spent some time reading Michael Yon’s Dispatches and I really do respect the guy. After reading I thought maybe we could make some headway. But we can’t, because the American Democrats won’t allow it to take ten years. And the Muslims won’t either. We’ve ticked every box we set ourselves, but they set a new goal and either way we can’t win that one. If we roll in we are damned, if we do nothing we are damned. It’s the left wing way. The media is the enemy too.
To get some idea about Yon’s experience I re-read Michael Herr’s Dispatches. It is a very similar story about a very different war.
The same theme I suppose. The American military can and in both cases does the job, but the left makes it a defeat from the jaws of victory.
In Yon’s war the Americans are again fighting for time against the left. But this time withdrawal is favourable.
They want out because it makes them feel good. I want out because I want confrontation and after they have shot each other to death we can deal with the half numbers left.
Yes, Michael Yon is a highly objective journalist, not at all a propagandist or former Fox News employee. That's what I like about him
Honestly, it would be extremely stupid of you to withdraw from Iraq and hand the country to your worst enemies (Al-Qa3ida Worldwide and Iran).
That is: it would be a bad move IF you are operating with the premise that America = good, which I would disagree with.
I recommend that people be against the United States, and thus in favor of a withdrawal, as it would damage U.S. interests.
That is the right thing to do.
But I agree with you that you cannot be both pro-US and pro-withdrawal, which appears to be the Dems' position. That stance doesn't make much sense at all.
“America = good, which I would disagree with.”
You are the enemy.
"I agree with you that you cannot be both pro-US and pro-withdrawal, which appears to be the Dems' position. That stance doesn't make much sense at all."
--from a posting above
It is that remark that I find devoid of sense.
Approximately one thousand postings at this website have not been read by this poster. Perhaps he would begin by googling "Victory Lies Shining Before Us" and then coming back to the articles on Iraq -- many dozens of articles, many hundreds of discrete postings -- on the subject of Iraq and the larger war of self-defense, a war without end, and without resolution, being conducted so maladroitly by the Western powers, not least the Bush Administration, so unwilling to consider, out of sentimenality and stupidity, ways to exploit pre-existing fissures, sectarian and ethnic, within Iraq, and also, what is more important, within the larger Camp of Islam.
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My personal analysis:
"Baghdad -Iraq is in the worst crisis since the fall of Saddam"
" The Iraqi parliment is due for an august vacation"
Dude its summer lets bail!
"On Friday,top Iraqi officials were sent to covene in the Kurdish north"
Yeah thats it! Get the F out of Bahgdad. Lets take this fight north,the only place with a resemblance of moral fortitude!
Schools out for summer!
"Iraqi government in deepest crisis"
I'm shocked, shocked that there's deepest crises going on in the Iraqi government!!!
The Iraqi government doesn't understand it; because, they don't understand it.
Iraq is a Islamic nation, and is having a meltdown.
Must be a first.
christian science monitor? now theres a real credible sourse of information.
So the Iraqi government is disintegrating.
The Green Zone is hit daily and in fact some bombings of the place have "insider knowledge" written all over them so it's safe to conclude that the government and civil service have been compromised to the n'th degree.
The hopeless "surge" is.....erm.....hopeless.
There was never a post invasion plan for Iraq.
People act shocked , SHOCKED!! that the Iranians and Saudis are funding the violence.
The Koran is at number 1 in the Constitutional top 30
US Generals think that reading extracts of the Koran will turn the MB into timid stamp collectors.
Other military intel officers think the violence is coming from lads with too much time on their hands.
Quick! Airlift in millions of Rubic cubes
Another General was unable to answer why the US is in Iraq and who exactly the enemy are
Recently it emerged that nearly all the violence is by Iraqis themselves not from outsiders.
This is bankrupting the US and making it a joke.
Most of Baghdad is out of gov't and US control.
Places like Basra are so strict in the interpretation of Islam they've been criticised by Iran. How about that for irony
The US made no attempt to understand the myriad forces at play in Iraq and so the army have sod all intel.
At first the US wanted to disarm the militia , then they'd arm them if they said they didn't like Bin Laden.
At first the US supported the Shiites now the Sunnis.
We got suckered into this crap-o-fest by an Iranian stooge who had "I'm an Iranian stooge" tattooed on his forehead. Dubya was too busy perfecting his swagger and practising his "Mission Accomplised" speech to notice.
It seems we're there so that we can build schools and nice brand new mosques and so that Iraq can be a democracy. Yes, schmucks, that's why you pay all that tax. To benefit people on the other side of the world.
Iran's economy is in a shambles but with oil at a trillion bucks a drop they'll get by and because of the debacle in Iraq they've never ever been this powerful. So instead of being on the ropes, Operation "Iraqi Freedom" has given Tehran a new lease of life.
The Iranians are laughing at us.
By getting rid of Saddam we did the Saudis a big favour too.
The Saudis are laughing at us.
The large Infidel comminuty in Iraq is dog meat and the US refuses to send it's soldiers to protect them and to let them emigrate to the US.
Anything else?
Ah yes, the US soldiers use sand in little canvas bags to protect themselves from the force of a 155mm IED shell planted about 1 metre from them. That'll do the trick. SAND
Let's get drunk. Really drunk.
If we could just remember how we one WWII. Feel bad about the many civilans killed, feel good about the many many Americans saved by massive devestation, and fight to win.
Or at a minimum, move our troops to seal the borders, protect the Kurdish north, and the let the sunni/shiite issue run it's course.
Then destroy what's left of the the winning side, take control of the oil, and then on to Tehran.
This blogger supports the mission in Iraq - the right fight at the right time.
Anything less than victory is unacceptable.
The Iraqi govt. can squabble all it wants. But it has only one choice.
Screw the Dems and screw the surrender monkeys and leftists from the Soros camp.
One day in the not too distant future there will likely be a Starbucks and maybe even a HomeDepot in Bagdad.
OK, so one may be a little delusional.
But a lot more sensible than those whores and useless time servors in the beltway.
posted by sounder:
No following required sheik. Our dumb, bleeding heart, lefty governments will bring them [terrorists] all home.
There is that risk, sounder. But we will also be bringing home a generation of servicemen and women who have seen Islamic societies up close, and who know the truth behind the propaganda.
I truly believe that the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan will create a whole cadre of ex-military personnel in our societies who will have no wish to see the Islamist horrors they witnessed in Baghdad, Basra, Kandahar and Helmand brought home to their cities. These personnel will spread their message to friends, family, colleagues, and inspire them in the process.
Just as World War II created a generation opposed to totalitarianism, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will only increase our future determination to defend our societies against Islamism.
"This blogger supports the mission in Iraq - the right fight at the right time.
Anything less than victory is unacceptable.
The Iraqi govt. can squabble all it wants. But it has only one choice.
Screw the Dems and screw the surrender monkeys and leftists from the Soros camp.
One day in the not too distant future there will likely be a Starbucks and maybe even a HomeDepot in Bagdad.
Posted by: dgene at July 28, 2007 10:04 AM"
Love your sarcasm!
dgene, what a wonderful spoof.
US Soldiers dying so that Arabs can have the Sarbucks experience.
And US taxpayers going broke just so that Iraqis can shop for bargains in Homedepot.
Great stuff.