Jihad tapes targeted professions

Jihadists have targeted not just doctors, but also lawyers and scientists. Hmmm. Imagine a bunch of lawyers waging jihad -- how would we tell?

"Jihad tapes targeted professions," from the BBC (thanks to all who sent this in):

Videos have tried to attract doctors, lawyers and scientists into Islamic extremism for more than a decade, the BBC has learned.

The tapes were used to try to shame Muslim professionals to get more involved in violent jihad.

One film from 1999 seen by the BBC shows a man claiming to be a third-year medical student in Birmingham.

He is shown claiming: "What we lack here is Muslims who are prepared to suffer and sacrifice."

Of fellow Muslim medical students he says: "They get their job, they get their surgery - £50,000, £60,000, £70,000 a year. No struggle, no sacrifice."

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Jihadists have targeted not just doctors, but also lawyers and scientists. Hmmm. Imagine a bunch of lawyers waging jihad -- how would we tell?-Robert

That is really good. It fits perfectly. LOL again after reading it again.

The ACLU membership is probably waving their hands in the air, jumping up and down shouting "Me! Me! Me!"

Wow --my sister just broke up with her very mysterious muslim doctor boyfriend --the family is so grateful!!

http://www.realclearreligion.com

Thay just sink lower and lower. What kind of perverted moral gidance have thay been given. Muslims thik of us as trash.

I'm less concerned that the jihadists are trying to attract doctors and scientists than I am with the fact that these people are answering the call.

Even more than lawyers, doctors and scientists are in professions where trust is paramount. We are inclined to trust health care professionals in a time of need, even when they are complete strangers.

Now what happens if you are injured and the only person who can care for you happens to be a Muslim? Once you would have trusted him implicitly. Now that trust is destroyed forever.

No more preferential treatment for Muslims of any profession who seek a visa. They abuse our trust. They pay the price. They impose collective guilt on us. We return the favor.

Cool site genevieve, thanks.

I wonder when we will hear the muslim doctors here in the USA start whining they are being victimized (basically people - hopefully - wising up and dropping them as their doctors).

islam is uncompatible with the hypocratic oath or any civil oath to protect people - non-muslim or muslim.

From what I am gathering in all my readings on these doctors - there are muslim doctors here in the USA that are/were planning to kill us too. They just haven't identified them yet, or even cared to look for them. I can't tell which.

"Of fellow Muslim medical students he says: "They get their job, they get their surgery - £50,000, £60,000, £70,000 a year. No struggle, no sacrifice."

....sure sounds better than a $2.00 bullet.....

Back on September 28, 2006, al-Qaeda released a new audio message specifically recruiting scientists and engineers in high explosives. It actually said that “the field of jihad” could provide scientists with an avenue for experimentation:

"Chemistry, physics, electronics, media and all other sciences--especially nuclear scientists and explosives experts--we are in dire need of you! The field of jihad can satisfy your scientific ambitions, and the large American [military] bases are good places to test your unconventional weapons, whether biological or dirty, as they call them."

http://www.wcbs880.com/pages/93915.php?contentType=4&contentId=214158

So Naseem,
if you're reading this, fax your resume to Abu Hamza al-Muhajir (that's the name he gave on the audio tape).

"Doctorophobics" just don't understand that jihadists only recruit impoverished, illiterate, desparate Muslims who have nowhere else to turn and nothing to lose, not educated blokes making six-figure salaries and everything to lose. If the West would only send money to eradicate poverty and improve education for destitute Muslim countries, the swamp of extremism would dry up.

//the left

If the West would only send money to eradicate poverty and improve education for destitute Muslim countries, the swamp of extremism would dry up.

//the left
Posted by: yadayada

Wanna bet? Thats been tried before and failed. All muslim country's are destitute, except that they are not. They are already rolling in cash. The problem is that it is being mis-spent. It either go's into the pocket's of the powerful, or is spent on jihad.
'Palestine' is a perfect example. A money rathole. How many billions has the west provided 'Palestine' already, and the people are still dirt poor. Well, most of them are, Abbas and other leader's are exceptionally rich. Jihad is a major money making industry, but not for poor people. They are just cannon fodder that keep's the payrole for the rich rolling in.

"Mama's don't let
your martyrs grow up to be cowboys;

let be doctors, and lawyers, and such;

Mama's don't let
your martyrs grow up to be cowboys;

They'll never grow old;
and they're always alone;
even with someone they ...."

duh_swami,

If I may interject in support of your response to yadayada, because I only learned of this myself.

We apparently support approximately 70% of every country on the planet through our foreign policy and related spending!

So, if that's not going to dry up the swampland of extremism what can we actively do?

Are we now to invade every country, set up democracies, and even run some to ensure our money is spent correctly?

Will the Left go for that to ENSURE we dry up this overabundance?

I think not, and they will NEVER go for us just not wasting our time or money.

So there you have it...the Rock and the Hard Place.

"Imagine a bunch of lawyers waging jihad -- how would we tell?"

I like it, Robert -- it's cheered me up on a rainy day in England (they're all like that this summer, it seems)

Islam, as the Hindus say, is a devilish disease that is creeping into the world's veins. Certainly Islam has found a happy home in the United States and is taking full advantage of the rather high level of naivete of the American people (particularly those on the left of the political spectrum). Islam continues to infiltrate and subvert US institutions and poison our society and threaten our homeland's security while millions of Americans remain in denial or are just oblivious to the danger posed by Islam.

Islam has declared war on the American people and our nation, and has done so at every level possible. Islam is now all around us, actively subverting whole professions, our universities, our legal system, our prison system; America now has jihadist doctors in some medical centers who will brazenly kill non-Islamic patients, and so on. We even have a Muslim-in-denial running for president of our country (God help us if he wins too).

We may even be living next door to terrorists.

How DO we know when we are being subverted with all THIS happening? Who do we know to trust?


The answer I think is that we all must remain suspicious of ALL Muslims and all of their activities and to watch very carefully persons who hold strongly anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-democratic, anti-western, anti-Judaic and/or anti-Israel views or professional persons who defend Islam for no particularly good reason. Parents need to be especially vigilant as to who is teaching their children and what is being passed off as curriculum for them, as Islam has targeted US schools as weapons of infiltration in US society.

Also be very suspicious of many persons on the left, socialist supporters, and 'fringe' elements of our society. These are the layers of our society where Islam is most likely to have penetrated. Sit down and think-- who do you know that espouses hard leftwing views and who are they associating with? If you can think of anyone fitting such a description watch them carefully if you can without becoming suspicious yourself or at least make a note of them. (I have had to do this on a few occasions).

It all sounds very general, I know. But if one carefully examines one's own life and the people one comes into contact with every day, it is possible to come up with results.

Stay alert everyone. Knowing what to watch out for will help. Identifying a problem is the first step in resolving a problem and our present problem (to understate the obvious)is jihad.

Miss_Anthrope...Money has a habit of disappearing, I know mine doe's. So I dont think it's a matter of invading anyone over it, just quit sending them more. The foreign policy and related spending is called 'foreign aid', a concept not included in the US constitution. Whenever Bush/Rice give the 'Palestinians', OUR MONEY, for example, they are doing it outside the Constitution. If I am wrong about that, I hope some Constitutional scholar can enlighten me to just where in the Constitution 'foreign aid' is called for.
I would like to see all 'foreign aid' stopped, especially to those we know are our enemies. There is no lid on it, it run's wide open.
It is insanity to finance our own destruction.
That is not a good path, but it is the one we are on...

pythagoras...that sound's very paranoid...and right on the money. Paranoia, without schizophrenia, is
a form of legitimate self defense. We need more of it.
This little town is loaded with liberal's who fit the description of 'who' to be paranoid about.
Talk about 'hate',`GW is at the top of the list, they seeth and boil over him, he is followed by anyone who disagree's with them.
The local paper is full of their histerical rantings. Most of them have not got passed the 'Islam is the religion of peace' mantra yet.
I dont think there are any, or many muslims here, but if there are ever enough to build a mosque, these people would help them build it.
I trust them about as much as I trust a rattler in the woodpile...

Law schools should have faculty members look carefully into the ideology of Islam before they hire Muslims, either to teach a course called "Islamic law" (which sounds promising to some who would never hire anyone to teach "law according to Christ" and who fail to realize that "Islamic law" or the Shari'a, belongs in a school of theology, and not an American law school) or simply to teach subjects that, if the Muslim in question is sincere in his belief, he cannot possibly teach -- for what is man-made Infidel law to him, but some kind of temporary joke, some accommodation with the Infidels that will, in time, no longer be necessary. And how can someone who believes in Islam, the principles of which flatly contradict the spirit and letter of the most important parts of the Constitution, conceivably undertake to teach Constitutional law, the heart of any law school edcuation that is more than mere vocational training?

As for the coherence of a law firm, hiring Muslims merely invites, somewhere along the line, all kinds of problems, including the unsettlement that such a presence, whether or not the person in question is capable of hiding the views that Islam inculcates, will mean for the firm's Infidels.

The days when one could ignore, or did not know, what Islam is all about, or where one thought that a Muslim partner would somehow be a rainmaker for Arab business (no need to do this at all all -- the Arabs go to the firms that will get their work done, maximize the benefits to them), are over.

Don't do anything to make organized, or for that matter disorganized Islam, stronger. Don't help into academic life (where Islamic control of Islam-related subjects is almost total), into the professions, anywhere. From now on, be on the qui vive.

'And how can someone who believes in Islam, the principles of which flatly contradict the spirit and letter of the most important parts of the Constitution, conceivably undertake to teach Constitutional law, the heart of any law school edcuation that is more than mere vocational training? '

....because they are trained to infiltrate and wait for the call to come....(sometimes referred to as a mole)....they are trained to lie....and they will answer the call to kill ...when it comes....they are Muslims....Ban Muslim immigration...

Why worry about the struggle when you make 50,000-100,000 a year or more?

I thought that was the struggle,was to succeed?

Just because they went further than the islamic education and pulled themselves up why should they HAVE to kill themselves or go to prison for life because the "Highly inteligent" under islam can't figure out how they oppress themselves?

Muslims will always be behind the rest of the world and they will always be opressed becuase they can't by thier religion/political system go any farther than times of yore.

They will never change because they cannot and will not look within or even around them.

If they actually looked around and saw who and what they are they would have to see how terrible islam is,even a blind man (imam).

Islam is like crack and thier adored ones are the dealers who give them thier fix.It was forced on the majority by the dealer until it could be taught from birth how to abuse it.Now they are all wacked out.

I don't care how moderate of a muslim one claims to be they lose out in my opinion for not being able to see that islam has offered the world nothing but evil and inhumane things.

The preachers of islam can stand before us all today and preach it's equality and peace and no sooner than the show would be over the complete opposite would be for all to see with flashing neon lights and arrows pointing to the truth.

People continue to stay blind to the facts,whom i don't pity,and they accuse those trying to protect them of hate and vileness while turning to hug thier enslavers.

In fact the appeasers are the ones with the blood on thier hands along with those "mighty men in Burkas"not the ones protecting this country.It is also they they appeasers who are helping those "mighty ones" to kill thier own followers.Die killing the infedels or die as a tool as we kill the infedels.

Some religion.

Why any muslim that made it out of the hell holes of the damned and continued to be a muslim especially after becoming something as a gifted person to do Brain surgery or even a scientist that could help thier own people LIVE not create more death and opression.

It's rediculous.

Out of this world rediculous.

Ronald Reagan summed it up:

"We are spirits not animals..."

Which are you?

duh_swami,

If I may interject in support of your response to yadayada, because I only learned of this myself.

We apparently support approximately 70% of every country on the planet through our foreign policy and related spending!

So, if that's not going to dry up the swampland of extremism what can we actively do?

Are we now to invade every country, set up democracies, and even run some to ensure our money is spent correctly?

Will the Left go for that to ENSURE we dry up this overabundance?

I think not, and they will NEVER go for us just not wasting our time or money.

So there you have it...the Rock and the Hard Place.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope


You dry it up by stop watering it (end the money give aways).

By us giving them aid in cash or what have you we make the tyrants look good,while they stab us in the back.

Also there is K street whose job it is to make these dictators look outstanding.

Who ends up on K street?

Thats right retired or voted out politicians....even Main stream media work on K street.

But hey they fixed a couple of problems by ending "free lunches" and "Free plane rides on personal jets."

They were so harsh with themselves weren't they?

Not another peep from people about it.

No pity,like i said.

Z is WAT late in coming on lawyers waging jihad (forget the fact it's a hilarious thought)...
ACLU has been waging jihad against us in the US for decades.
Where the hell as Z been all this time?
LOL

duh_swami:

You are superficially correct but I stand by my posting. Paranoia is what is known as a psychological aberration and paranoia is abnormal behavior to US. Thus an explanation may be needed for those who think my suggestions were 'paranoid'.

For centuries we in the western democracies have lived in a world where we weren't usually being targeted for death and destruction and where things were ususally more or less what they seemed. Then along came the onslaught of global jihad....

What the western world is dealing with nowadays (jihad)one way or another is an aberration by its own standards (but, aberrant or not, we still are threatened by it and must find a way to defeat it).

As has been noted at JW and elsewhere, what we in the western democracies see as aberrant behavior is not necessarily seen as aberrant behavior everywhere on the globe (far from it). Alien mindsets whereby western conceptions of aberrations are irrelevant have arrived in the western democracies by dint of mass immigration and handling these foreign influences may require tactics which to date may have seemed themselves strange, paranoid, (or worse).

But a failure to recognize evil is self-destructive when that evil is aimed at oneself by another. And that is where America and the western democracies are right now--isn't jihad really evil being targeted directly at US? Why worry about how handling this appears cosmetically?

Confronting a paranoid mindset is not paranoid, however-- although it may appear superficially so to the uninitiated. However I think that when we remain true to the necessity of defeating jihad and deal with it using everything we've got in our arsenal, appearances (however unorthodox or seemingly aberrant or 'paranoid') become largely irrelevant.