"The attack drove home the lack of government control in the tribal region." Again.
"Militants seize shrine in Pakistan," by Riaz Khan for the Associated Press:
PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Pro-Taliban fighters seized an Islamic shrine in restive northwestern Pakistan and renamed it after the Red Mosque, where dozens of militants died this month in a showdown with government forces in the capital, officials said Monday.
We usually see "restive" used to describe southern Thailand. Is it becoming a synonym for "jihad-stricken?"
The attack drove home the lack of government control in the tribal region, where a local government official said authorities were trying to negotiate the militants' peaceful departure from the shrine.
[...]
About 70 pro-Taliban militants overran the shrine of renowned Pashtun freedom fighter Sahib Turangzai and its adjoining mosque in Mohmand tribal region late Sunday, a militant representative said.
They evicted the mosque's caretakers, renamed it and declared their support for Abdul Rashid Ghazi, the deputy cleric of the Red Mosque, who had spearheaded an increasingly aggressive, Taliban-style anti-vice campaign in the capital.
Troops finally cracked down on the mosque and Ghazi was killed along with at least 101 other people after a weeklong siege that ended July 12.
In Mohmand, the militants vowed to set up a girls' seminary at the site — reminiscent of the one in Islamabad where the anti-vice campaign was centered and that was demolished by authorities after the siege.
"We will ensure education here for students who were dispersed after the operation against Lal Masjid in Islamabad," Khalid Omar, a man who claims to speak for the militants, said in telephone calls to journalists in Peshawar.
A government official in Mohmand, who sought anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to journalists, confirmed the militants had taken control of the shrine. He said authorities have sought the help of tribal elders to get the militants to leave the area peacefully.
All together now...
"Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad / Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah"
Mohammad: "Allah is great, durka durka"
Al Maloch: "Mohammad your a fag"
Now, on a more serious note.
Does Musharraf, being a Muslim himself, realize that appeaing these idiots will only lead to more violence? Of course he does, but he also knows the majority of his own military and the ISI support these Islamists.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_6920000/newsid_6922000?redirect=6922007.stm&news=1&bbwm=1&nbwm=1&bbram=1&nbram=1&asb=1
Jihad the Musical! I MUST see this one! ha ha ha
It sounds perfectly delicious and perfectly provocative! PERFECT!
Al-that's and Al-this's and more Islam, Islam ..Islam.(from Hugh)...that's the answer..ughhh..what's the question? The beat goes on....geez
One would have thought that by now, the Islamic whackjobs would have killed themselves all off - what with all their internecine violence. But still they continue - to breed and kill each other and us.
Many Christians say atheists must be sad people because they have no hope of a better world in the hereafter, but at least atheists don't have an eagerness to die or kill others. Born into Islam, start taking your zanax immediately. What a bunch of losers.
To Provoslavni,
As much as Musharraf irritates everyone at JW sometimes, and as repressive as his gov't is toward ravial and religous minorities, it's hard to blame him too much for why pakiland is as plagued as it is by terrorist violence. Even if theoretically he was opposed to the Talliban, Jamal Y Islamiyah and other jihadis on moral and ideological grounds, he's quite possibly the sole member of gov't or military who is. The military, as I've heard, recently gave increased autonomy to Waziristan, the one province with the smallest area, theoretically least difficult to control, and the one province where the Tabliban and Al Qaeda basically run the show. They continue to repress Balochistan, Sindh and Northern Areas, where secularists and non-muslism among the population are most likely to be AGAINST the presence of Jihadists of any kind. Their treatmetn of anit0islamist minroites remains almost on the level of the Sudanese janjaweed in terms of heinousness. And of course the ISI is without a doubt aiding the Taliban, their creation, in Afghanistan and Islamic seccesionists in Kargil and Kashmir Valley.
Musharraf should probably just be treated as an ineffectual figurehead of the world's 3rd largest terrorst exporter. Call him out any chance we get over pakiland's blatantly obvious sponsoring to terrorists bu tthen stop even pretending that one man army has any real power.
Greetings:
Well, at least they didn't rename it for Abdul Aziz al-Burqa and his high heeled sneakers (cause he's going out tonight).
OT
Heh heh heh heh heh X 100.
This is too good.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/15041/Jailed-Hamza-moans:-Stop-picking-on-me
Greetings:
They should send Hamza to that other prison where they give hot oil baths... make you feel warm all over.
Rename the all The Red Mosque, and hope they all meet that same end.
They should call it the "Red-Handed Mosque" as in we've basically got evidence in hand that this district is out of control. Or the "Red-Faced Mosque" in reference to the government's embarrassment.
What I don't understand is the interest, both at this shrine and at the Red mosque, in setting up GIRLS' madrassas. Is there something I'm not getting here? In Afghanistan they are bombing girls schools and threatening anyone who dares to educate the fairer sex, but the same folks, or their close allies in Pakistan, are setting up girls' schools? Anyone experience a slight cognitive dissonance from this?
Or are we seeing the face of a new sect, a sort of we're-not-the-taliban-because-we-educate-girls-so-give-us-legitimacy-as-we-maim-mutilate-and-take-over-the-world kind of sect?
Maybe they should name it the Dead Mosque?
"We usually see "restive" used to describe southern Thailand. Is it becoming a synonym for "jihad-stricken?" -- Marisol
Yes, a synonym and euphemism for jihad afflicted. Exactly right!
Otherwise known as the Temple Of Doom.
This is good news. The more such incidents occur in Pakistan, the more obvious the truth about the "land of the pure" becomes to the world.
And the more difficult it becomes for dhimmocrats in western governments, western MSM and above all the dhimmocrats in the government of India to negate this truth about Pakistan; the very reason for its existence, its foundational ethos being
A visceral hatred of infidels, read Hindus in their local context.
It was typically ignorant and arrogant of certain western cold-warriors to build up Pakistan as a "moderate" Islamic country and support them against Hindu India, in the mistaken belief that Muslims pre-occupied with terrorism against Hindu neighbours would not direct their bigotry against the west.
That myth has been shattered for all to see, but there are many closet dhimmis amongst western officialdom who yet entertain some hope that their
pet "Abrahamic faith" poodle will deliver.
Maxwell
There's no point supporting Musharraf on the grounds that he'll be less anti-US than any substitute regime: the fact that the Paki people - like most Muslims ummah-wide - are anti-US makes it a guarantee that it will remain a thorn on the side of the US as long as it's allowed to fester. The only way to get rid of this thorn on the side of the US is to remove it from the side of the US, and for the US (not India) to take out their nukes in a military - if necessary - nuclear strike, and do the same to Iran. That way, send a message to the ummah that nukes in the hands of Mohammedans - Jihadi or not - won't be tolerated.
Of course, for that to happen, the powers that be first have to recognize Islam as the source of these problems. If only....
Yes karyakarta92, I just can't disagree with you. The West should have long ago seen India as a bulwark against Islam. But instead, they chose their short term goals of profiteering by arms sales to Pakistan. Having armed Pakistan against India, and now India effectively defending itself, the acts of the West are rebouding against them.
Whenever India protested in international forums against terrorism in Kashmir / Punjab and even produced documentary evidence (of Pakistani involvement with Western supplied arms & ammunition) before the international community, all that India got was a long lecture on human rights and an opinion from the West mistaking terrorists for freedom fighters. In fact, some of these terrorist organisations at least had their front organisations in Western countries and the West never bothered about them. The terrorists' front organisations were very well nested in London, New York, Vancouver, etd. Now the West is too bothered (but of course) because these birds have started soiling their own nests, and in the process even the trees of their ill given refuge.
There can no war on terror any longer without co-opting the Hindus meaningfully. It's time the West realised that certain wrong policies of theirs have landed them in the present mess.
Another day, another shrine. We should be sending Caterpillars over to Pakistan instead of money.
Let them bulldoze the mosques one by one if that's what it takes to quell the Taliban uprising.
Rinse. Lather. Repeat.
...throughout the world, all the way to Mecca.
Assalamau Laikum all,
I can see you peoples are happy about the "abduction" of another mosque....I said the other day that it was a mistake to paint the other one as green and white...
Still with this one being on the frontier....let them get on with it....hukamat should just starve them out....if only these lunds could see what damage they are doing to Islam....they only think about themselves.
To be truthful....although I love Pak (and there was a celebration in London celebrating the existance of Pak ..."Pak Zindabaad" they said), Jinnah could not see the damage he would do to Islam by the creation of Pak.
By creating Pak ...this has slowed the Islamisation of India by decades....and Allah SWT forbid ....if not forever.
Just Imagine if there was no Pak....but only a united India...it would possibly be the largest muslim country in the world now....and places like Baneras ...hosting some of the best and prettiest mosques by now....and there would be peace too....because the pure would be everywhere....helping the one country India to show and shine the light of Islam to one and all.
What a mistake Jinnah made.....
Assalamau Laikum all,
I can see you peoples are happy about the "abduction" of another mosque....I said the other day that it was a mistake to paint the other one as green and white...
Still with this one being on the frontier....let them get on with it....hukamat should just starve them out....if only these lunds could see what damage they are doing to Islam....they only think about themselves.
To be truthful....although I love Pak (and there was a celebration in London celebrating the existance of Pak ..."Pak Zindabaad" they said), Jinnah could not see the damage he would do to Islam by the creation of Pak.
By creating Pak ...this has slowed the Islamisation of India by decades....and Allah SWT forbid ....if not forever.
Just Imagine if there was no Pak....but only a united India...it would possibly be the largest muslim country in the world now....and places like Baneras ...hosting some of the best and prettiest mosques by now....and there would be peace too....because the pure would be everywhere....helping the one country India to show and shine the light of Islam to one and all.
What a mistake Jinnah made.....
Terrorist sympathizers in strange places:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/07/31/boltn-down-with-islamic-terror-sympathizers/
"Just Imagine if there was no Pak...."
Probably the best thing I've ever heard Naseem say. Hopefully the Pakistanis will paint this new mosque red with the blood of the jihadists too.
l think they should build the "great wall of pakistan" keep all those monsters inside and no one can leave, only go back to the preat pak land of pure killing machine of islam. nothing is good about the pak ever since it broke away. the pak is poverty striken and full of stench, its payback for murdering all the Hindus. The world has watched this murderous cult at its best, and world can judge from the pak's actions, islam is a death cult.
"What I don't understand is the interest, both at this shrine and at the Red mosque, in setting up GIRLS' madrassas. Is there something I'm not getting here? In Afghanistan they are bombing girls schools and threatening anyone who dares to educate the fairer sex, but the same folks, or their close allies in Pakistan, are setting up girls' schools? Anyone experience a slight cognitive dissonance from this?
Or are we seeing the face of a new sect, a sort of we're-not-the-taliban-because-we-educate-girls-so-give-us-legitimacy-as-we-maim-mutilate-and-take-over-the-world kind of sect?
Posted by: Archimedes2"
Archimedes2, the schools of afghanistan and the madrassas are different. In the schools, the girls are actually taught about how to make a living, to be a decent person, to contribute to society. In madrassas, all that is taught is the koran and the hadiths. That uswa hasana (ol mo) is the perfect man, that imitating him is the way to go, and killing infidels is okay. These madrassas are creating more female suicide bombers, women's lib, islam style.
So, Nasseem, convert, submit,or die is your philosophy. Because that is the only way you could accomplish the islamization of India.
Decades, you say? Never, I say. The world is far different than you want it to be. No matter how long you insane muslims wait for islamic hegemony it ain't gonna happen.
Why dont we rename the place ?
Why dont we noise it about that it will be called "The Wholly Craphouse" ?
That if they would be so kind as to fill it with jihadis and other CAIR reps, we would be pleased to reduce it to rubble.
Nasseem,
You seem to think that a united India would become Muslim. You couldn't be more wrong. Right now, Muslims are about 12 percent of India's population. This is a percentage just small enough that it allows too many Hindus to remain complacent. A united India would be about 35 percent Muslim. That would be enough to wake the kaffirs up and unite Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, and Christians against the Islamization of India.
Study your history and read about great leaders like Shivaji. If Islam gets too strong in India, modern versions of Shivaji will inevitably arise.
Naseem states, "if only these lunds could see what damage they are doing to Islam".
This is a GOOD thing -- every little bit helps draw us closer to removing this cancer from existence.
Posted by: d'infidel at July 31, 2007 4:06 AM
...throughout the world, all the way to Mecca.
Posted by: Mike_W
Eventually this will have to be done if the root problem is to be destroyed.
a) Jihadis are the symptoms.
b) Imams, mullahs, ayatollahs and muftis are the vectors.
c) Islam is the bacterium.
Islam is a plague on both houses - the house of Islam and the House of War.
Nadeem
Islam spread in India due to forcible conversions. Those days are over. India spared 93000 Islamists in 1971. The next time, all of them will get a bullet in their head, ALL OF THEM
Nasseem, meri jaan - you sure do have a sense of humour. I'll grant you that! Please continue your pornographic Islamic dreams, very unladylike for a chaste, Ahmaddiyah widow from Lahore if I may say so.
Someone put it succinctly when he said "Where the foot of Islam falls, the very grass withers."
The Hindu civilization is perhaps the only one to have suffered the tyranny of Islamic rule for 1300 years and terrorism in it's modern definition for the past 30 years - and yet survived (unlike other ancient civilizations like Egypt, Persia, Assyria, Mesopotamia).
The temporary advances made by Islam through genocide of the Hindus are largely the result of extreme pacifism, inculcated by Buddhist philosphy, which originated as a school of Hinduism.
Ultimately, Islam will never triumph, least of all in India. Islam is destined for destruction.
Doesn't your own quran say something to that effect, "Qayamat" and all that ....