If a Christian cleric were shot dead, sparking violent clashes between Christian sects, there would be screaming worldwide headlines. But a Muslim cleric is killed, and Sunnis and Shia start fighting one another, and it's business as usual. The moral equivalence crowd, however, never considers the implications of stories like these.
"Nigerian clash over cleric death," from the BBC (thanks to Mel):
Clashes have broken out in the northern Nigerian city of Sokoto after a high profile Muslim preacher was shot dead.Members of Sunni and Shia sects have fought a pitched battle with one of the three suspected gunmen beaten to death.
The Sunni preacher was shot on Wednesday night while travelling home by motorbike taxi from taking prayers.
The sultan of Sokoto, the spiritual head of Nigeria's Muslims, said Mallam Umaru Dan-Maishiye, died after being shot in the head. He appealed for calm....
There has been regular friction between Sunnis and Shias in northern Nigeria, and civic leaders are meeting on how to calm tensions.
In April, the killing of a militant cleric in the city of Kano led to fighting between Islamist militants and the army....
Yawn...........more muslim on muslim violence.
Ya gotta love it.
What a pity they restrained their bloodlust.
When clashes between Shias and Sunnis start happening in American cities some day -- and it will --, I wonder what the response of American government officials will be -- send in anger management teams? Negotiate a truce between the two waring sides? Send them to classes on the glories a diversity ans multiculturalism?
I suspect it'll be a combination of all three, but, in the end, we'll be expected to accept street warfare as a normal feature of Ameican society, just as it's a normal feature if Islamic socities, when in fact they should all be rounded up, in mass, and expelled from this country.
It'll happen. Just wait and see.
Drat those murderous christians!
(/sarc)
LOL
The list of countries where there might be detectable effects from sectarian fissures widening in Iraq always included Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bahrain, Yemen, Kuwait, and Lebanon. Now, perhaps, Nigeria may be added to the list.
Don't forget Morocco & Algeria...though low for now, there's a lot seething under the surface.
At least this site has always reported the plight of Nigerian Christians and at least my country has admitted tens of thousands of them who are fleeing persecution at Muslim hands.
Just a few weeks ago, I dined in a Nigerian restaurant just off Green Street in east London (UK, of course) and had a wonderful meal in the company of many Nigerian ex-pats. Afterwards, and outside in the street (because one shouldn't embarrass the host), I and my dinner companion (female, and both of us white British) had several interesting conversations with the black young men and women from Nigeria who had found themselves forced to seek sanctuary in the mother country.
Believe me, some of their stories were harrowing. Even if I only believed ten percent of what was said to me then I wouldstill have to tell you that that ten percent was extremely upsetting.
One young man, from the Northern States, newly arrived and obviously deeply upset and traumatised, lifted his T-shirt and showed me the wounds inflicted on him by a so called Sharia Court judgement. His back, and I understand from his friends, also his buttocks and the back of his thighs, were one bloody bruised mass of flesh. The caning inflicted upon him was done, or so I was told, because he, a Christian, was caught with several others, drinking alcohol at a birthday celebration. He had been treated upon arrival in the UK for five broken ribs as well. He claims, and I have no reason to doubt him, that his ribs were broken after his caning, by Muslim men who waited for him outside the gaol deliberately in order to punish him further.
This is really civilised behaviour by the religion of peace, don't you agree?
All because Mohammad's heirs are fighting over the booty to this day.
Never worship a pirate.
The perversity in all of this is that, let one infidel state an objection in a raised voice and he is labeled a islamophobe. And if he states it in Christian tones then it is ten times worse and labels like 'fundamentalist' are quickly added. The association is with jihad fundamentalist, both are BAD.
Start calling people on this every time you hear it in public. It is very subtle and over time changes the public view. Liken it to a frog being slowly heated in a pot of water. No one gets it until it is to late.
When clashes between Shias and Sunnis start happening in American cities some day -- and it will --, I wonder what the response of American government officials will be -- send in anger management teams? Negotiate a truce between the two waring sides? Send them to classes on the glories a diversity ans multiculturalism?
I suspect it'll be a combination of all three, but, in the end, we'll be expected to accept street warfare as a normal feature of Ameican society, just as it's a normal feature if Islamic socities, when in fact they should all be rounded up, in mass, and expelled from this country.
It'll happen. Just wait and see.
Posted by: rational
@Rational..
You are SPOT-ON! [in case ya didn't know] I'm a German who's been living in the US for over 25 years now and I've been following the developments "back home" as regards the global jihad and dhimmitudes and so on and on..
Even when I left Germany in 1983 there was friction and occasional violence between Turks and Kurds ON OUR GERMAN STREETS!!
Yet NOONE [but me, the one they called racist and even a Nazi for merely uttering my thoughts] would EVER discuss whether it is a good thing for Germany and her citizens to be battleground for this kind of internecine warfare.
I was never allowed to ask what if one day they all got together and turned on us??!
Now we have Turkish and Kurdish and Lebanese and other Arab street gangs battling each other over "turf".
German police are under "Rules of Engagement" similarly restrictive as those of American Marines in Iraq. They DARE not use overwhelming force and thus the gangsters are boastful and self-confident.
Thus their morale is undermined and since the police dare not defend the citizens.. these citizens are of course scared and intimidated.
Anyone who fights back when attacked by these goons is branded a racist nationwide and paraded on TV. I am not making this up. And I am not talking about neo-Nazi thugs ganging up on harmless and peaceful foreign visitors.
Yes, I know, Germany is Germany and everyone loves to assume the worst.. and the PRESS will FEED you what you wish to consume in this case.
But the story I tell is what it is in Scotland or in Sweden or in Denmark, or in Spain or wherever you wish to look.
The Natives are always cast as racist NAzi right-wingers.. even when all they do is fight BACK against an unjust attack.
I am not a great writer but there is TONS of evidence on politicallyincorrect.de and on Fjordman and a few more..
So the M/O of the MSM is not only in Germany.. Nastives BAD.. moslems GOOD!
NO MATTER WHAT.. just as long as NOONE will call us RACIST or worse, oh.. the very thought!
Well, y know what? I am a German [bottom of the rung when it comes to P.C.] and I call all you MSM and Dhimmiticians a bunch of RACISTS cowards, dhimmis, appeaseniks, Quislings, traitors and sellouts. And I'll call you more than I'd be allowed to in good taste in this forum!!
So, yes.. they WILL fight one another here - just as they already do in Europe - for who gets to kill and rape the locals first.
All I am asking these days is.. WHY are our POLOticians buying into this stuff?
I used to wonder if maybe the islamists had hidden nukes in all our cities and they were blackmailing our 'leaders' but somehow that didn't compute 100%...
For now, the most logical reason [imho] would be that they've figured out how to effectfully manipulate our Left and our political/judicial systems. And they KNOW how to BRIBE people. That's their way since before islam took hold in the ME.
Baksheesh and blackmail..
..and by now they threaten our press. See Danisch Cartoon Jihad. They threaten writers and intellectuals, including those who operate this very web site. Namely Hugh Fitzgerald and Robert Spencer.
We all have heard of Hirsi Ali and the Van Gogh case... and Salmon Rushdie and the Pim Fortyuin and the Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders who has to be under police protection merely for specking his hims.. as a FREE DUTCHMAN ought to be able to in HIS OWN NATIVE HOL-LAND!!
Yet the Dutch POLOticians blame him and distance themselves from him!!
They OUGHT to DEFEND him.. CIRCLE the WAGONS.. say.. HIS FAR AND NO FURTHER!!
..Defend his right to say what he pleases.. EVEn if they don't agreee with him!!!
They are loath to condemn those who threaten this brave man!!
As if the reaction to these people I mentioned [and the many I failed to] weren't proof enough of the VERACITY of their fears!!!
I would think that the "racism" card would have been PLAYED OUT by now!!
In face of the MOUNTAIN of EVIDENCE!!
Yes, my dear American friends.. I've enjoyed 25 years or so somewhat sheltered from both the immediate threat as well as the daily unpleasantness of islam living in your fine and glorious country.. but I AM TELLING YOU!!!
The situation is beginning to remind me of the country I left in the early 80s..
They HATE America because it is the LAST BASTION that they know might yet OPPOSE them!!
What a pleasant surprise indeed to see the French STAND UP and vote for a Man who is poised to lead the former "Grande Nation" back to Glory!
One day we may well look upon the French as the saviours of Europe for sounding the Clarion Call at the ballot box!
The French weren't cowed by media pressure and the "racism" intimidator.. they were simply SICK and TIRED of seeing their way of life washed away and eroded..
They refused to bow to threats of possible violence should they exercise their own free will instead of voting for the appeasement-Soicaliste..
Problem is.. where is such a candidate in the next US election and where is there such a candidate in Germany and in Britain? Those being the 2 other big players in Europe besides France..
I don't see any hope for now in either Spain or Italy..
Denmark is beginning to look very good in comparison...
Sweden [Norway too] seems totally LOST and clueless..
Yes, we will have to get ready for turf wars and honor killings here in the US of A pretty soon.. I hope I am wrong and we'll get a grip on this thing called moslem immigration!
Play ball! let's ROLL!!!
When clashes between Shias and Sunnis start happening in American cities some day -- and it will --, I wonder what the response of American government officials will be -- send in anger management teams? Negotiate a truce between the two waring sides? Send them to classes on the glories a diversity ans multiculturalism?
I suspect it'll be a combination of all three, but, in the end, we'll be expected to accept street warfare as a normal feature of Ameican society, just as it's a normal feature if Islamic socities, when in fact they should all be rounded up, in mass, and expelled from this country.
It'll happen. Just wait and see.
Posted by: rational
@Rational..
You are SPOT-ON! [in case ya didn't know] I'm a German who's been living in the US for over 25 years now and I've been following the developments "back home" as regards the global jihad and dhimmitudes and so on and on..
Even when I left Germany in 1983 there was friction and occasional violence between Turks and Kurds ON OUR GERMAN STREETS!!
Yet NOONE [but me, the one they called racist and even a Nazi for merely uttering my thoughts] would EVER discuss whether it is a good thing for Germany and her citizens to be battleground for this kind of internecine warfare.
I was never allowed to ask what if one day they all got together and turned on us??!
Now we have Turkish and Kurdish and Lebanese and other Arab street gangs battling each other over "turf".
German police are under "Rules of Engagement" similarly restrictive as those of American Marines in Iraq. They DARE not use overwhelming force and thus the gangsters are boastful and self-confident.
Thus their morale is undermined and since the police dare not defend the citizens.. these citizens are of course scared and intimidated.
Anyone who fights back when attacked by these goons is branded a racist nationwide and paraded on TV. I am not making this up. And I am not talking about neo-Nazi thugs ganging up on harmless and peaceful foreign visitors.
Yes, I know, Germany is Germany and everyone loves to assume the worst.. and the PRESS will FEED you what you wish to consume in this case.
But the story I tell is what it is in Scotland or in Sweden or in Denmark, or in Spain or wherever you wish to look.
The Natives are always cast as racist NAzi right-wingers.. even when all they do is fight BACK against an unjust attack.
I am not a great writer but there is TONS of evidence on politicallyincorrect.de and on Fjordman and a few more..
So the M/O of the MSM is not only in Germany.. Nastives BAD.. moslems GOOD!
NO MATTER WHAT.. just as long as NOONE will call us RACIST or worse, oh.. the very thought!
Well, y know what? I am a German [bottom of the rung when it comes to P.C.] and I call all you MSM and Dhimmiticians a bunch of RACISTS cowards, dhimmis, appeaseniks, Quislings, traitors and sellouts. And I'll call you more than I'd be allowed to in good taste in this forum!!
So, yes.. they WILL fight one another here - just as they already do in Europe - for who gets to kill and rape the locals first.
All I am asking these days is.. WHY are our POLOticians buying into this stuff?
I used to wonder if maybe the islamists had hidden nukes in all our cities and they were blackmailing our 'leaders' but somehow that didn't compute 100%...
For now, the most logical reason [imho] would be that they've figured out how to effectfully manipulate our Left and our political/judicial systems. And they KNOW how to BRIBE people. That's their way since before islam took hold in the ME.
Baksheesh and blackmail..
..and by now they threaten our press. See Danisch Cartoon Jihad. They threaten writers and intellectuals, including those who operate this very web site. Namely Hugh Fitzgerald and Robert Spencer.
We all have heard of Hirsi Ali and the Van Gogh case... and Salmon Rushdie and the Pim Fortyuin and the Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders who has to be under police protection merely for specking his hims.. as a FREE DUTCHMAN ought to be able to in HIS OWN NATIVE HOL-LAND!!
Yet the Dutch POLOticians blame him and distance themselves from him!!
They OUGHT to DEFEND him.. CIRCLE the WAGONS.. say.. HIS FAR AND NO FURTHER!!
..Defend his right to say what he pleases.. EVEn if they don't agreee with him!!!
They are loath to condemn those who threaten this brave man!!
As if the reaction to these people I mentioned [and the many I failed to] weren't proof enough of the VERACITY of their fears!!!
I would think that the "racism" card would have been PLAYED OUT by now!!
In face of the MOUNTAIN of EVIDENCE!!
Yes, my dear American friends.. I've enjoyed 25 years or so somewhat sheltered from both the immediate threat as well as the daily unpleasantness of islam living in your fine and glorious country.. but I AM TELLING YOU!!!
The situation is beginning to remind me of the country I left in the early 80s..
They HATE America because it is the LAST BASTION that they know might yet OPPOSE them!!
What a pleasant surprise indeed to see the French STAND UP and vote for a Man who is poised to lead the former "Grande Nation" back to Glory!
One day we may well look upon the French as the saviours of Europe for sounding the Clarion Call at the ballot box!
The French weren't cowed by media pressure and the "racism" intimidator.. they were simply SICK and TIRED of seeing their way of life washed away and eroded..
They refused to bow to threats of possible violence should they exercise their own free will instead of voting for the appeasement-Soicaliste..
Problem is.. where is such a candidate in the next US election and where is there such a candidate in Germany and in Britain? Those being the 2 other big players in Europe besides France..
I don't see any hope for now in either Spain or Italy..
Denmark is beginning to look very good in comparison...
Sweden [Norway too] seems totally LOST and clueless..
Yes, we will have to get ready for turf wars and honor killings here in the US of A pretty soon.. I hope I am wrong and we'll get a grip on this thing called moslem immigration!
Play ball! let's ROLL!!!
OT.but Nigeria related.
Did anyone see the Soccer game between Nigeria and Chile in the under-20 FIFA World Cup played in Canada?
A Nigerian was "sent off" ( red card). He took his jersey off and had a t-shirt with big letters saying "Allah is Great." The camera panned away from him immediately and the play-by-play commentators said nothing.
Later I saw not a word of it anywhere, like it never happened. A bit Orwellian. Was it PC or just not wanting to give the Nigerian youth player a medium for his message? Just wondered if anyone else out there saw this?
FIFA said nothing yet, which is disturbing because they are the soccer governing body and should stamp out such propagandizing.
Allahfanculo,
I don't doubt a word you said, and it should be obvious to Americans that the same fate awaits us here if we don't wake up and face the facts.
Our government officials can't claim that fears of Muslim Immigration to this country are unfounded. They need only look to the European experience to know better. Europe is our canary in the mine, and the canary died long ago.
So why do they keep denying the obvious, and continue to expose this nation to danger?
I believe it is a combination of political ambition and Ideology.
Once politicians perceive a group as having voting clout, they'll cater to that group, no matter who they are, and no matter what danger they pose to the rest of society. It's hard to believe that an American politician would be that cynical, but many are. Political power is like a drug, and they'll do anything to hang on to it.
There might not be as many Muslims in this country as there are in Europe, but they're now being perceived as a voting block that can tip the balance in an election in some areas of the country -- and maybe even in a national election, and That's all it takes. I suspect that's what happened, and is still happening, in many European countries. And now they're paying the price for it. And they'll pay an even bigger price in the future.
The ideology that supports the willful ignorance of many European and American leaders, is the belief that all people, everywhere, want freedom, justice and democracy. The can't grasp the idea that some people couldn't care less about these things, or that their definitions of these ideals are completely at odds with our own definitions of them, which is really the case with Islam. With Islam Freedom is the Freedom to Impose its will on others, justice is the imposition of barbaric sharia law on a society -- like it or not -- and democracy is blasphemy.
The refusal of Western leaders to recognize these simple truths is self-induced willful ignorance. The evidence is there, they just don't want to see it. That's the power of ideology when it has a stranglehold on an otherwise rational mind.
Oh, it was horrible. Today I was walking in a Jewish neighborhood, and a bunch of little old rabbis had taken people hostage and started cutting off heads. One rabbi came out with a bomb strapped to his waist and said, "Oy gavalt, my goiter is acting up." When he saw me looking at the bomb he said to me, "What? You never saw a rabbi blow himself up before?" Then he said, "Do you know what a nebbish is? A nebbish is someone who when they come in the room you feel like someone just left." I started chuckling at that and he started laughing and said he heard that line when he was on vacation in the Borscht belt. He was about to launch into another joke when he stopped suddenly and remembered what he was doing and said, "Maybe you should stand a little away over there, boychik, huh?" I moved away and then he screamed in a hair raising voice, "Baruch atoy adonoi, elohaynu melech, har-oh-lum" and blew himself up and nails shot everywhere killing hundreds of people!!!
I managed to escape that, and I was passing through the little India neighborhood in my city and these gurus in samadhi trances with beatific smiles drove down the street throwing out flowers and then suddenly they started screaming "Tat Tvam Asi," and running over crowds of pedestrians...then they stopped and waited for the police and said they had done it for Mahatma Gandhi and Paramahansa Yogananda, the avatar of divine love.
Needless to say, I was traumatized by that, and ended up in my confession booth telling my sins to my Irish Catholic priest about it and about my sins, when suddenly he screamed, "Christ in you!" and started coming after me with a knife!
I got away and went over to a Taoist study group, since Taoism is so peaceful and soft. The teacher was talking about the balance of yin and yang, and there was all this vegetarian macrobiotic food and people were doing Tai Chi and learning how to move like the wind and be soft like the water, and suddenly the teacher's daughter came in and said she was leaving Taoism, and he cried out "To follow Tao, look within and return to the universal Self!" Then he started beating her viciously and whipping her, saying she had dishonored the family and must die. Then he started taking bombs out of his closet, so I left.
I know all religions are alike, but how did they all get like this?
allafanculo (& rational)...
It depends on what area you're in...
NYC-also depends on the neighborhood-some will just calls the PD, others will shoot.
SanFran-they'll consult the stars, spike their hair, and try to get in touch by encouraging everyone to hold hands, make nice, & sing kumbaya
Most everywhere else, the Americans will have had enough of that BS & come out shooting away.
(Remember the LA riots when merchants had had enough of the rioters BS? BANG! BANG!)
And most won't fire warning shots when it comes to durkastanis (yes, I'm using it as a derogatory term)
...I hope Cindy Sheehan runs against Pelosi in the next election and wins...this would remove Pelosi from the senior position she now holds...
maybe the next dhimmicrat who would inherit the majority leaders position would have half a brain, but I doubt it.....
the world really undertands the true nature of islam,but those on the left let them have more leew Allahfanculo ay into this behaviour. this is more racists in thinking, as the left sare saying they cant help but being violent its their nature. instead of holding a standard for living in a civilized world these rabid monsters are allowed to kill without impunity.
to Allahfanculo when you left Germany there was no JW, or much internet, now the "regular joe" has access to information, and many of my European friends know and understand islam. the one thing l do see different in Europe is the total helpness they find in fighting their government. l see this attitude when they cannot and do not fight legislation towards the "dog fancy. and now more importantly now with islamists terrorists, people need to figh back. The US is the last bastation for freedom. Their guns rights makes the difference along with outher freedoms, right of speech.
Never worship a pirate.
Posted by: profitsbeard
Not even Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow ?
I'd kneel down and worship him any day!!
'Warfare is ordained for you'. How else are those horny little devils going to get into Allahs brothel in the sky? Perpetual warfare to guarantee perpetual sex.
"There has been regular friction between Sunnis and Shias in northern Nigeria, and civic leaders are meeting on how to calm tensions."
Sorry, it can't be done. A "religion" based on violence will never be calm.
The primitive intellect functions best in the areas of sex and violence.
That fits a lot of people. However it is institutionalised in Islam. Mohammad was aware of that when he recruited oversexed violent men as companions. Thats why the promises of live slave girls, or celestial slave girls, appealed to them.
Thats why the Quran is insistant, and Mohammad was persistant. Thats why sex/violence symbolism is prevelent in Islam. As an example, how can a minaret be mistaken for anything other than a phallic symbol? Islam cant appeal to, or hold, a superior intellect. Those intellects that appear superior in Islam, are not, but they are clever, devious, and dangerous. There is nothing quite like a jihadi in heat...