Lal Masjid Update -- possibly the last one, as Musharraf takes his stand against the Islamization of Pakistan, at least for now: "Pakistan troops storm radical mosque, 23 dead," from AFP:
Pakistani troops Tuesday launched a huge operation against militants holed up in an Islamabad mosque after negotiations to free women and children failed, leaving 20 rebels and three troops dead.Massive blasts and intense gunfire rocked the pro-Taliban Red Mosque, where the government alleges that hundreds of people have been held as human shields for eight days. Plumes of black smoke rose above the complex.
Around 20 children escaped from the fortified mosque and were rescued by security forces, the military said. Dozens of ambulances with sirens wailing were seen in nearby streets.
"It is a final push to clear the mosque of armed militants," military spokesman Major General Waheed Arshad told AFP. The battle was still raging after more than three hours.
The military said troops had entered the building from three sides and were backed by armoured personnel carriers. The government has said around 100 militants were inside the compound along with 300-400 women and children.
A girls' religious school adjoining the mosque caught fire.
Arshad said at least 20 militants were killed in the fighting and 15 injured. Three security forces personnel were killed and 15 wounded, he said.
Arshad said he had "no information" about the fate of Abdul Rashi Ghazi, the firebrand cleric leading the militants.
"The militants are using small arms and grenades. They are in the basement, we have covered the rooftop," he said.
Well we know it was boind to happen.
Arshad said he had "no information" about the fate of Abdul Rashi Ghazi, the firebrand cleric leading the militants.
What about the eight or nine high level jihadi's that were supposed to be in there? No information on them either?
This was a circus. A charade. As for the 10-12 "al qaeda" members, well they are right there. Any islamic cleric is an al - qaeda member since he follows the kuran like them.
But islam is a religion of peace.
This is a huge story but I'll bet the world media will avoid examining what role, religion played.
What depraved mindset permits using children as human sheilds? Why are so many pious adherants joyfully awaiting their own murderous destruction? Islam will once again "get a pass" by the MSM as the single most contributing cause of this carnage, and the West will rest assured that the bad guys have all been captured or killed.
Just in from the A.P. via MSNBC:
"Updated: 6:46 p.m. ET July 9, 2007
BANGALORE, India - For 10 years, Mohammed Hassaan watched the two boys in the modest gray house across the street from his mosque grow into young professionals and observant Muslims."
Remember those "Indians" arrested in the British bomb plots?
Well, incredibly, it turns out that they are Muslims! Who would've guessed?
20 Martyrs.
More valuable in death than in life. And they knew it.
The mainstream media is determined to keep on describing militants inside the mosque as "students" despite the evidence that many there are hardened jihadists armed to the teeth with weaponry.
Ah those wayward "youths" They'll grow out of it.
Why didn't they just toss tear gas in? Smoke them out?
This seems strange.
Again, wish that journalists could write English. "...and three troops dead." Completely wrong. 'Troopers' die, or three 'men of the troops', but not 'three troops'. Once again, Websters and the OED concur. Collective plurals with no singular form seem to give so much trouble to our exceedingly literate hacks. God's sake, if they can't even write decent English how are we supposed to trust that their reports are even remotely accurate!
Nit-picking? Of course I am. Enjoy it!
It's now 43 dead.
Please start the clock. Let's see how many hours pass before the cries begin in the MSM that the Pakistani police "overreacted" with "excessive force" against these defenseless and unarmed "students". They'll get their martyrs, our media will manufacture them. The Pakistani police will be the bad guys in this story. Watch.
Borg is right - that's the latest right now.
Aside from the philosophicals, one thing is for sure...
If we took off the gloves and dealt with the armories, ooops, I mean "mosques" and their "troops" the same way, both foreign and domestic, the terrorism factor would be nowhere near what it is currently...but don't count on it anytime this decade, thanks to the mouth-foaming brownshirts of political correctness spreading this insidious mental disorder of the worst magnitude.
Sad.
Mr. Ghazi....rather than question the gov't, you should actually be questioning why Allah would allow this crisis to happen to your followers to begin with....why he'd allow such defeat and humiliation at the hands of "lesser Muslims", when you've been oh-so-more-faithful 'lo these many years. Perhaps this was one of those "tests from Allah"? Then perhaps you should instead praise your Allah for sending the gov't to test you....and let your next question be this: Did you and your followers pass?
They passed "go" on their way to the hereafter...does that count?
A sad Assalamau Laikum to you all today,
I am in tears.....
that Allah's house can be desicrated in this manner...they may not regard Ahmadi as muslim ...but we are equally cut up about the damage done both physical and psycological to muslims & Allah's house today....is nothing sacred anymore?
Please keep cutting remarks to a minimum today....they can keep.
What these lunds cannot see is the damage they have done for sharia lite.
Poor Nas.
Here take this virtual tissue.
..."Allahs" house is prostituted when it is used to hold kidnap victims, used to torture victims, used to house weapons, used as a base to conduct terror operations, used as a barracks for terrorists, used as a place to preach violence, hate, and death, all the while the local crazed, bearded, finger pointing Islamic cleric is proclaiming : "alllllahhhh akkkkkbarrr".....
What makes me sigh is farooq is arabic for fort and is a common name for mosques .We really are not making any planes for dealing with this problem on any level.
A sad Assalamau Laikum to you all today,
Sad or happy, you keep your "peace only unto the believers" to yourself.
"I am in tears.....
that Allah's house can be desicrated in this manner...they may not regard Ahmadi as muslim ...but we are equally cut up about the damage done both physical and psycological to muslims & Allah's house today....is nothing sacred anymore? "
You call a butcherhouse your allah's house ? For that is what any mosque is. You people saw off the heads of animals, drink the blood and skin and chop up the pieces in mosques and you say that it is is sacred ?
"Please keep cutting remarks to a minimum today....they can keep. "
I got news for you bhains. Now nothing will keep.
Let's get some tissues for his issues.
I, for one, toasted with a hearty stout.
*cheers*
What are you crying about Naseem? These jihadists are just following the teachings of Mo and the Qur'an.
I knew the end came when last Friday the President had an attempt on his life. But this major clean up is simply is buying time for him. He knows that he is on borrowed time.
Remember folks that the radicals have 3 areas of Pakistan already. They will not be statisfield until they have all of it and those Chinesse made nukes. China must be keeping a nervous eye here on Pakistan bigtime because of their own Muslims.
oh f88k Naseems grow up! mosques are descreted every day of a muslim year for God's sake! those islamists terrorists in the mosque everyday would descrete any building that they are holded up. Better Mussie kill them now and clean out that mosque of its filth, but l have a better idea, level that disgusting building to the ground.
Good news that Islam is attacking Islam.
As a Hindu, I will have the last laugh one day. And he who laughs last laughs the longest.
Good news that Islam is attacking Islam.
As a Hindu, I will have the last laugh one day. And he who laughs last laughs the longest.
Good news that Islam is attacking Islam.
As a Hindu, I will have the last laugh one day. And he who laughs last laughs the longest.
Good news that Islam is attacking Islam.
As a Hindu, I will have the last laugh one day. And he who laughs last laughs the longest.
Naseem, glad you weren't upset by all the fighting done in mosques in Iraq, or the hate filled speeches spewed out of the ones in the UK, urging Muslims to kill infidels, The Queen, Tony Blair, Salman Rushdie. Your red mosque is red with blood, as are the hands of your imams and spiritual leaders. Your moon god demands more blood, more killing, more sacrifice. Have a beer, sit back and enjoy the show. It isn't over yet.
proud-hindu, I'm laughing so hard I almost spilled my beer. :D
Oh I know Naseem... and what will it do to the cost of the premium? That's if you can find an insurer now. Well I suppose they should have been more careful with the clientage. Look don't get me wrong, I isn't the lah-di-dah type ya know but heaven knows why oh why did they not bring in a smart dress only policy? No beards no trainers no nothing of the like... and as for personal weaponry, nudge nudge, to be left in the cloakroom at all times, definitely! Hand it over on the door. That's it a ticket system... so no little tinker can walk off with someone else's RPGs. Live and learn, live and learn I say... Nas, unless I'm very much mistaken I'd say that was piddle in your glass. Phew! It smells like piddle too. Get on tell me it ain't. Sharia Lite you say? ...Nah not me, Carlsberg mate... and did you ever clear the rats from your basement?
''A sad Assalamau Laikum to you all today,
I am in tears.....
that Allah's house can be desicrated in this manner...they may not regard Ahmadi as muslim ...but we are equally cut up about the damage done both physical and psycological to muslims & Allah's house today....is nothing sacred anymore?
Please keep cutting remarks to a minimum today....they can keep.
What these lunds cannot see is the damage they have done for sharia lite.''
And yet it's not sad that you wrongly occupy the true house of God, the Temple Mount? Or that you control such great houses of worship as the Hagia Sophia?
Please spare me. This is a shrine to a false pagan moon deity, and you don't seem to care about those when you run them over in India and the Hindu areas of Pakistan.
So either show what is sacred to others the same respect or get none in return.
Poor Nas.
Here take this virtual tissue.
Posted by: western infidel.
Have you no consideration at all for your fellow posters Western Infidel? I've had to wipe down my monitor screen after reading that, having had a mouthful of tea and biscuit's at the time of reading.
I've still got tears of laughter.
"What these lunds cannot see is the damage they have done for sharia lite."
Fortunately, Miller Lite, Bud Lite, Coors Lite, and Michelob Lite suffered no harm in this incident.
"Please keep cutting remarks to a minimum today....they can keep."
Translation: "I am a nominal Muslim, and my feelings have been hurt. I expect you to respect my wishes, because I'm asking you nicely to forgo your exercise of free speech."
Naseem, if you don't like what is said here, you do have the option of finding another site more to your liking. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard for you to find a blog wherein everyone is grieving for this "loss". Try Beliefnet.com.
Muslims fighting each other, when they do not fight non-Muslims.
ROFL!!! "virtual tissue" You guys are hilarious!
Naseem, you want sympathy? How about the "sympathetic" dance the Muslim dogs did on 9/11?
those were "apes and pigs" on 9/11, atheling