"And if he hath divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she hath wedded another husband. Then if he (the other husband) divorce her it is no sin for both of them that they come together again if they consider that they are able to observe the limits of Allah. These are the limits of Allah. He manifesteth them for people who have knowledge." -- Qur'an 2:230
From the Calcutta Telegraph (thanks to Morgaan Sinclair):
Malda, July 24: Unable to bear the pressure to re-marry a stranger in order to get back to her former husband, a woman here has committed suicide.Tarzina Khatun was allegedly told by her family that in order to reunite with Motiur Sheikh, who had given her talaq three months ago, she had no other option but to spend at least one night with somebody else, divorce him and then re-marry. The couple’s families are from two adjoining villages in the Chanchol area of the district, 75km from here, and they felt that they should stick to the shariat norms as explained by the Muslim clerics.
Bablu Sheikh said his sister had married Motiur, a worker in a lathe factory, six years ago.
“At first they were a happy couple but she was under tremendous pressure to bear a child. When she failed, her in-laws chided her and three months ago, her husband gave her talaq,” Bablu said.
Tarzina returned to her parents’ house but after a few days Motiur wanted her back.
“We sat together and decided after conferring with the clerics that Tarzina would have to stay all by herself for three months and then marry a different person and spend at least one night with him. According to the shariat, she could then divorce the new husband and remarry Motiur. But she refused,” Bablu said.
As happens in Turkey, the suicide here may have been coerced, but the police seem unconcerned.
What power imbalances this reveals: the male calls the shots by demanding a divorce, but if he later changes his mind, it's the female who must do the adjusting by complying to the "norm" as it's euphemistically called here.
And, of course, she carries all the blame for not conceiving a child.
What a weird Muslim world..before reuniting with a divorced spouse, a woman must marry someone else for one day. Like so many other Islamic customs, it defies common sense, mental and emotional health and any sort of compassion. What a sad ending for a young woman who had her whole life ahead of her.
What a weird Muslim world..before reuniting with a divorced spouse, a woman must marry someone else for one day.
If we're going to shake our heads about religious laws governing marriage that "def[y]. . . any sort of compassion," what about the Jewish law that says that if a divorcee marries another man, she can *never* remarry her first husband, because she has become "defiled" (Deut. 24:3-4).
Plain damn stupid.
Are we supposed to believe that this religion is from God?
Common sense is defied here - 2 people have botched up their lives and to "unbotch" it, the womand has to marry someone else for 1 day and get divorced in order to re-marry the real lover.
Does that make sense anyone? No?
Plain damn stupid.
Islam is not from God, never has been.
I will never be held hostage by this religion.
Poor woman.
Here's something that tells us about the Sharia value of women and is also an argument against any idiot who says terrorists are reacting to our "sleazy" western culture. Google the name Sayyid Qutb. He came briefly to America and returned to his homeland two years later, horrified at our loose morals and the freedom allotted women. He felt we were too debauched, our women too free and promiscuous, our lifestyles too materialistic.
He came here in 1948. His words still shape extremist thought.
Of course she refused to be a part of this unclean practise. What if she got pregnant of the man she was to spend one night with?
Islam is an insane religion.
A culture of misery!
Muslims regard the West as decadent. They have more so called marriages than any other religion, to the point that they make a mockery of marriage.
Dinesh's traditional Muslims - no doubt, the type of people who'd be repulsed by Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears and Paris Hilton.
Anyway, she made the right call. She's no longer going to breed Jihadis who'd threaten to Islamize that part of India.
Note that no one was arrested for putting her under pressure to do this.
One more Sign of the Future... if this infiltration and colonization isn't stopped and reversed.
Let Muslims make each othewr miserable in Mecca.
Coming soon to Germany
The Islamification of Europe Continues Unabated...
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2007/07/the-islamificat.html
"Dinesh's traditional Muslims - no doubt, the type of people who'd be repulsed by Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears and Paris Hilton."
Hell, I'm no Muslim and I'm repulsed by them.
atheling
You miss the point. Dinesh's thesis was that Muslims are more moral than Hollywood Liberals, and that Western Conservatives should ally with them because they share similar values. The above story was a perfect illustration of how Muslim 'morality' is more akin to a twisted version of anything goes, and just because they treat their women like dirt, stone gays, etc doesn't translate into their being more moral than even the above. In other words, Western Conservatives have little in common with what DD describes as 'Traditional Muslims'.
My above comments weren't an endorsement of Paris Hilton or Lindsey Lohan.
Muslims more moral than western conservatives? That's a laugh. They have institutionalized adultery with this brilliant rule that says a woman has to "marry" and sleep with another man before she can go back to the idiot husband who dumped her but has now had second thoughts. So much for the husband protecting his wife. Does anyone else here think that hubby might get a little angry that some other guy has been squeezing the goods and may end up taking it out on the wife? He is, afterall, allowed to beat her if he's a Muslim. And does anyone think that maybe this woman understands the natural law that is written in our hearts and feels real icky that she's being forced into a form of prostitution? does anybody care?
I'm starting to wonder if we aren't being a little hard on Muslim women in some of our posts here at JW & DW. How the heck are they supposed to know which way is up when:
1) if they get divorced they have to commit adultery to get back in the good graces of the community and to get back with the husband,
2) if they get raped and they report it they can be imprisoned, publicly lashed or executed as an adulteress or fornicator,
3) if they fall in love with someone their family doesn't approve of they can be raped, tortured and have their neck stomped on to "get the soul out" but in Muslim countries Pa and bros just get a little slap on the wrist, cuz' it's an honor thing, don'tcha know.
I am not for suicide, no way, but given the choices this poor woman had, which seem to all revolve around terminal penetration by a penis, but only the Sharia sanctioned penis, whichever happens to be the one the imam says is okay for that day, or humiliation and death for the slightest infraction, I can see why she beat them to the punch and put herself out of her own misery.
Will she see paradise?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2sbKIjquqg&mode=related&search=
Seamus wrote:
If we're going to shake our heads about religious laws governing marriage that "def[y]. . . any sort of compassion," what about the Jewish law that says that if a divorcee marries another man, she can *never* remarry her first husband, because she has become "defiled" (Deut. 24:3-4).
Just for the sake of accuracy, "defilement" (tumah) is used in Jewish law for both men and women and it refers to a whole range of spiritual conditions which are to be avoided for spiritual reasons. It does not imply that people are bad or untouchable. For instance, kohanim, male members of the priestly caste, cannot enter the Temple precincts because they are all have a status of tumah today.
The reason which Jewish law gives for prohibiting remarrying one's divorce after she was married to someone else is not because she is "defiled" but simply to prevent institutionalized prostitution.
"“At first they were a happy couple but she was under tremendous pressure to bear a child. When she failed, her in-laws chided her and three months ago, her husband gave her talaq,” Bablu said."
....Muslim women are, it seems, forced to breed new jihadists to continue Islams onslaught on the world....perhaps the husband was tired of hearing the neighbors stories about their children who had become martyred for Islam....
...If he truly loved the woman, he would have loved her even if she never had children....
...it defies belief why any woman would want to be a Muslim bride...
"Dinesh's traditional Muslims - no doubt, the type of people who'd be repulsed by Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears and Paris Hilton."
Hell, I'm no Muslim and I'm repulsed by them.
Posted by atheling
You beat me to it !
These arrogant, vapid tramps repulse me as well. But not as much as does the fact that the majority of people in North America think these women are "news", and are so blind and stupid they can't see what news they should really be following.
Goes to show that Isam is truly oppresive to women.
BTW, Islam is a creation of the devil.
Only a handful existed 10 years ago, but today 159 mosques dot Germany today, with 184 under construction
from the weaselzipper article
Prussia in the 17th and 18th centuries was famous for its tolerance. Altho Lutheranism was the state religion, Catholic and all types of Protestant refugees from all over Europe were welcomed -- most notably the Huguenots from France. And, along with the Netherlands, it was the most tolerant country toward the Jews. The state often provided refugee groups with funds to build churches. Frederick the Great remarked that if he could get any Turks to come, he'd build them a mosque
Well, it's 200+ years later, and the Turks have come in spades, and the mosques are being built. It just goes to show that even good ideas can be carried to bad extremes.
i am reminded of the eposode of "Taxi" with Latka and Simpka and Alex and the storyline as such. It was funny episode. Funny because it wasn't real.
"..If he truly loved the woman, he would have loved her even if she never had children...."
Exsgtbrown,
Just like there is no laughter in Islam, there is no love in Islam. But there is plenty of sex, along with lots of humiliation and murder in the name of Allah, tallah!
This would be funny had it not been for the
death of this unfortunate woman.
I do not understand how any "religion" can sanction such behaviour.
Of course, Muslim "Scholars" have justified
the Sharia requirement for a divorced woman to consummate her marriage with a different man, before being allowed to return to her original husband - as a koranic measure to discourage divorces. But, it strikes me as the result of the perverted imagination of islam's paranoid schizophrenic prophet.
There have been other such absurd cases among
Muslims in India recently:
1. a Muslim soldier in the Indian army was assumed MIA; His wife, Gudiya re-married & was pregnant by the new husband; The original husband returned home; The mullahs passed a fatwa ordering her to go back to the old husband; I think she died due to neglected health after a miscarriage
2. a 60+ year old Muslim man raped his daughter-in-law. When she & her husband approached the local mullahs for redress, the mullahs passed a fatwa declaring that the woman should henceforth treat the rapist father-in-law as her husband & her husband as a son !
3. a 70+ year old Muslim man married a 20 something young girl many years after his wife died. She got friendly with the old man's 20 something young son. The old man died & she "Eloped" with the 20 yr old. The local mullahs passed a fatwa declaring it as a haram relationship. I believe one of two offenders was killed.
The "Secular" authorities in India, the world's largest dhimmocracy did not lift a finger in any of these cases to enforce the rule of law & the primacy of the Indian constitution.
I feel violated that this perverted islamic behaviour is allowed in INDIA.
Islam & this phoney "secularism" are a disgrace to Indian civilization.
I concur with "INFIDEL PRIDE" on the flawed Dinesh D Souza school of thought. The koran is just a doctrine of sexual licentiousness. Doesn't it promise N number of young boys along with the 72 virgins in paradise ?
In that respect, islam is closer to Hollywood liberals.
Yes, I too am disgusted with the MSM's obsession
with Paris Hilton, Britney Spears et al, when there are far more important/serious issues & events around the world to report.
However, I do have to say that while I detest
licentiousness/immorality etc, Paris/Britney etc can & should be able to do whatever they want.
Amercian women have style & beauty. There is nothing wrong if they some of them choose to exhibit it (regardless of whether that is in tune with traditional western mores).
Freedom & the dignity of women should be cherished by all. I mean, would you rather have them wearing burkas ? Or treated like in-animate objects ?