Guilty. "Padilla Is Convicted in Terrorism Case," by Curt Anderson for Associated Press:
MIAMI (AP) - Jose Padilla was convicted of federal terrorism support charges Thursday after being held for 3 1/2 years as an enemy combatant in a case that came to symbolize the Bush administration's zeal to stop homegrown terror.The Chicago native was once accused of being part of an al-Qaida plot to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb" in the U.S., but those allegations were not part of his trial with two co-defendants.
Padilla, Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi face life in prison because they were convicted of conspiracy to murder, kidnap and maim people overseas. All three were also convicted of two terrorism material support counts that carry potential 15-year sentences each.
U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke set a Dec. 5 sentencing date for all three defendants.
The three were accused of being part of a North American support cell that provided supplies, money and recruits to groups of Islamic extremists. The defense contended they were just trying to help persecuted Muslims in war zones with relief and humanitarian aid.
[...]
Padilla had lived in South Florida in the 1990s and was supposedly recruited by Hassoun at a Broward County mosque to become a mujahedeen fighter.
The key piece of physical evidence was a five-page form Padilla supposedly filled out in July 2000 to attend an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan, which would link the other two defendants as well to Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization.
The form, recovered by the CIA in 2001 in Afghanistan, contains seven of Padilla's fingerprints and several other personal identifiers, such as his birthdate and abilities to speak Spanish, English and Arabic.
Padilla's lawyers insisted the form was far from conclusive and denied that he was a "star recruit," as prosecutors claimed, of the support cell intending to become a terrorist. Padilla's attorneys said he traveled to Egypt in September 1998 to learn Islam more deeply and become fluent in Arabic.
To read the article you would think this was more about the Bush administration violating his constitutional rights than about the fact that he's a jihadist piece of crap.
One less murder cultee roaming free is a win for someone's existence somewhere.
Praise the Lord and pass the verdict!!
Valencia (1926)by (another) Jose Padilla
Valencia es la tierra de las flores
De la luz y del amor
Valencia tus nmujeres todas tienen
de la rosas el color
Valencia la sentir como perfume
En tus huertos el azahar
quisiera en la tierra Valenciana
mis amores encontrar
La blanca barraca la flor de naranjo
La huerta pulida de almendros en flor
La turia de plata y el cielo turguesa
Y el sol Valenciana van diciendo amor
Amores en Valencia son floridos
Como ramos de azahar
Quereres en Valencia sus mujeres
Con en alma suelen dar
Pasionens en la huerta Valenciana
Si le dan el corazon
Sus hembras ponen alma y ponen vida
En un beso de pasion
Valencia es la tierra de las flores
De la luz y del amor
Valencia tus nmujeres todas tienen
de la rosas el color
Valencia la sentir como perfume
En tus huertos el azahar
quisiera en la tierra Valenciana
mis amores encontrar
*****
VALENCIA
(Composed by Jose Padilla)
Valencia
In my dreams it always seems
I hear you softly call to me
Valencia
Where the orange trees forever
Send the breeze beside the sea
Valencia
In my arms I held your charms
Beneath the blossoms high above
You love me
In Valencia long ago
We found a paradise of love
In a magic dream of memory I see you again
In that old town far away beneath the size of Spain
That city of romances, so shy while you glances
Swiftly sunshine dances through the orange glow
Valencia
In my dreams it always seems
I hear you softly call to me
Valencia
Where the orange trees forever
Send the breeze beside the sea
Valencia
Valencia
Valencia
In my dreams it always seems
I hear you softly call to me
Valencia
Where the orange trees forever
Send the breeze beside the sea
Valencia
In my arms I held your charms
Beneath the blossoms high above
You love me
In Valencia long ago
We found a paradise of love
In Valencia we found a paradise of love
(Transcribed by Monique Adriaansen – September 2004)
To see a period-piece sheet-music cover of "Valencia" and to hear a few bars of the song -- not the bars behind which this latter-day Jose Padilla will be living, but other bars -- google "Oliendo A Azahar, Or, Not That Jose Padilla."
American judicial system....enemies of the state in jail for 3 1/2 years and we are still not finished..
Shar'ia judicial system....enemies of the state in jail about two days before beheading...
This One Not That One
This José Padilla was the author of the pasodoble "Valencia" and of a hundred other songs. This José Padilla met Carlos Gardel in Buenos Aires in 1914. This José Padilla was a master of popular song, and when he was born, it was said that a wandering group of players were playing a pasodoble under the balcony of the room in which his mother gave birth. This José Padilla died in 1960, unimagining that within fifty years a mosque would be opened in Granada and Muslims making demands for using the cathedral in Cordoba as a Mosque, and making plans for the recapture of Al-Andaluz.
This José Padilla huele a azahar, that José Padilla huele a explosivos.
The other José Padilla is entirely uninteresting and merely a detail in the annals of planned iniquity.
When is the scheduled date for this jihadist to be tied to 4 horses and split to the corners of the earth??
Roman style is THE best method for dealing with terrorists of the people.
Put it on pay per view and charge $29.99 and we could pay off a big chunk of our deficit.
7th century crimes and attempted crimes must be dealt with a 7th century punishment.
Message to United States citizen jihad watchers:
I started posting this request at Jihad Watch only two days ago, and we’re already up to 16 volunteers.
I'm looking for at least two people in every state of the Union who would be willing to purchase a copy of Robert Spencer's Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn't and mail it to one of the senators in your state. I'm organizing an effort to get the book simultaneously to all 100 senators, in order to send a strong message.
If we get more than two people per state, we’ll also send copies to the House of Representatives.
If you’d like to be involved, please write to me at traehnam@yahoo.com under the subject heading “Senate,” and tell me the state your senator represents, an email address where I can reach you, and a nickname. No need for your real name. And I will never share your email address with anyone, not even with other volunteers for this project.
Over at www.jihadawareness.blogspot.com you can leave comments other volunteers will read, and you can see the growing list of participants in this project, and the states their senators represent. I’ll try to update the list at least once a day.
Once we have at least two people from every state, we can agree on a mailing date and then each of us can mail a copy of the book on that date.
Right before we do the mailing, we can issue a press release to various media outlets in every state, and in that way announce and explain the mailing. And perhaps we can come up with some other ways of maximizing the effectiveness of this project and gaining as much positive attention as possible.
Update: one of the project's volunteers suggested contacting Rep. Sue Myrick, who started the anti-Jihad caucus in Congress. I'll try to coordinate this project with Rep. Myrick to maximize its effectiveness. I've also called several congressional offices to try to get advice in how best to go about this. And I'll soon contact Regnery, Robert Spencer's publishing company, to ask their advice and to see if we can coordinate with them somehow.
Treason deserves the 72 Virgins Express.
And pigskin straps on the gurney, Inshallah.
I am sure these comments will upset the politically correct, muslim pandering, always apologising to the jihadists Oliver.
"People" like Ollie, are 1 reason why Britain has lost the "Great" in its name.
No will to face or let alone fight islam in all its 2 faced forms.
I am sure he would think differently of muslims if 1 of his relatives or children were incinerated on the train courtesy of the religion of peace.
Its always so easy not to care when it is not your family doing all the bleeding and dying.
A Must-See:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z968llHGTIA
"What about converting to Islam? Here are the first steps you have to do as a new Muslim."
When is the scheduled date for this jihadist to be tied to 4 horses and split to the corners of the earth??
Posted by: Hungarian Crusader
Ahhh, the ol' Drawing & Quartering!
I DO miss the Good Ol' Medieval Days...
Castration, Gouging, Boiling, Burning at the Stake, Stocks, Gibbeting, Strappado...
And then the Cubans added some interesing ones in the 20th Century: the Cuban Cigar, Cuban Necktie, to name a few.
...and the looney left is outraged...
"And then the Cubans added some interesing ones in the 20th Century: the Cuban Cigar, Cuban Necktie, to name a few.
Posted by: Miss_Anthrope ""
....and Russian missles, CHe, boat people, and island poverty...
When the defense says, "Islam made me do it." then the trier of fact may infer guilt from that statement.
And therefore, we can. Therefore Virgil Goode and Tom Tancredo can.
When it comes to
a) Muslim immigration
b) Allowing Muslims access to nuclear artillery shells.
c) etc.
We the public are the trier of fact. We may infer from the "Islam made me do it defense." that Muslims should not
a) be allowed to immigrate
b) have access to small battlefield nukes
c) etc.
Two thoughts:
How come Al-Qaeda, et al., seem able to recruit non-Arab losers who seem to have a gift for learning Arabic, but our own intel agencies are desperate for Arabic speakers...and
the federal prison system is too good for his ilk, although I never understood why Moussaoui wasn't treated as an enemy combatant. His trial in the federal civilian court was a travesty, but at least he was convicted.
And that is where the trouble lies.
Too bad we let a civilian court do this...but life with no parole is good enough-sad we have to feed this oxygen thief.
I am glad he got his. Hope his stay in jail is nasty, brutish, short and terminal.
btw: Iran thinks it has already won WW3!
Check this out:
http://tinyurl.com/yso53p
"Iran summons Argentines over probe into bombing of Jewish community center"
By The Associated Press
"An Iranian court has summoned five former Argentine government officials to journey to Iran and answer charges involving their roles in an investigation that implicated Iran in the 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Argentina's capital.
Iran is charging them with working against the country's security, the state television reported Thursday. Eighty-five people were killed and 200 were wounded in the Buenos Aires bombing.
The Tehran court summoned former federal Judge Juan Jose Galeano, Interior Minister Carlos Corach, chief prosecutors Eamon Mullen and Jose Barbaccia, and Ruben Beraja, a banker and former head of the Delegation of Argentine Jewish Associations.
The report said the five officials had been informed of the summons via diplomatic channels and if they did not travel to Iran and appear in court in the coming days, international arrest warrants would be issued against them.
More Argentines could be summoned in the future, the report added.
Argentina's foreign ministry rejected Tehran's request, saying it seemed to be a political reprisal to Argentine efforts to find and detain Iranians involved in the community center bombing."
CAIR want off that list.
New York Times
By NEIL MacFARQUHAR
Published: August 16, 2007
Two prominent Muslim American organizations took steps yesterday to reverse what they called a Justice Department effort to smear the entire Muslim community by naming some of its largest organizations as unindicted co-conspirators in a Texas terrorism trial.
The National Association of Muslim Lawyers, which is not named, sent a letter to Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales objecting to the list, which it said breached the department’s own guidelines against releasing the names of unindicted co-conspirators and did not serve any clear law enforcement purpose.
The letter, also signed by the National Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys, said the “overreaching list” of more than 300 organizations and individuals would further cripple charitable donations to Muslim organizations and could ratchet up the discrimination faced by American Muslims since the Sept. 11 attacks.
In addition, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, which is on the list, announced that it would file a brief today asking Judge A. Joe Fish of the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas to remove its name and all others from the list.
The brief, a copy of which was released yesterday, says the list furthers a pattern of the “demonization of all things Muslim” that has unrolled in the United States since 2001.
“Most people don’t understand what an unindicted co-conspirator is,” said Parvez Ahmed, CAIR’s board chairman, adding that the release of the list prompted death threats and hate mail against the council. “They think that being related to a terrorism case means we are terrorists.”
The unindicted co-conspirators were named in the case against the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which opened July 16. The charity and five of its officers are accused of providing material support for terrorism by funneling millions of charitable dollars to the Palestinian organization Hamas. The federal government ordered the foundation shuttered in December 2001.
Technically, the prosecution can introduce statements made by any individual or organization named as an unindicted co-conspirator without such statements being dismissed as hearsay. Those on the list have not been charged with anything, but they are concerned that the label of unindicted co-conspirator will forever taint them, particularly if the Holy Land group is convicted, and that they will have no legal recourse.
On July 13, Judge Fish barred lawyers from discussing the case with reporters. A Justice Department spokesman, Bryan Sierra, said the order prevented him from commenting about the list, as did the spokeswoman for the United States attorney in Dallas, Kathy Colvin. Before the judge’s order, however, the prosecution, while acknowledging that the list was unusually long, maintained that the names of the organizations would have come up in the trial anyway. Defense lawyers accused the Justice Department of using the list to create the aura of a vast conspiracy where none existed.
Both the National Association of Muslim Lawyers and CAIR said they were working in uncharted legal territory, as they had been unable to find firm legal precedents about how an unindicted co-conspirator could be removed from such a list.
Many organizations named are foreign, but among the most notable in the United States are the Islamic Society of North America, the largest Muslim umbrella organization, and the North American Islamic Trust. The Islamic Society said in a statement that it, too, was seeking a legal recourse, while the North American Islamic Trust did not respond to telephone calls seeking comment.
Link to "CAIR want off that list".
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/16/us/16charity.html
tele64's link to the looney left.
They are a wonder.
The consept of Padilla actually being guilty seems to be beyond their relm of conceivability.
It is really hard to figure out what they expected the Goverment to do with someone like him. Put him in a Luxury Suite in the LUXOR Resort in Vegas???
Now the real fun begins. Especially if Padilla gets "private accomidations"
Why does it take 4 months to get to sentencing? If the judge needs a litle time to think about it, take a long lunch. I think the sentencing guidelines do most of the work, the judge just needs to follow along.
Do I understand this correctly , CAIR wants to Sue several John-Doe's and smear their names while making them targets for the Jihadists to behead , yet when CAIR is tied to funding Terrorism they say that it's unfair to smear a group of people for "Alleged" actions.
Mr.Hooper.....step away from the glue-bag , please remain seated until Islam comes to an end .
So basically, CAIR wants to sue people for what they might have done , and yet not be held responsible for what CAIR did do.
Innocent until proven non-Muslim.
Screw Padilla put him at the end of a rope till his neck pops.He wouldn't have lost a nights sleep in murdering thousands or more innocent people.
There should be no pity for him.No mercy. His would be victims should not bear the responsibility to keeps his sorry hide alive.
As for CAIR trying to shed thier co conspirator status they can have it removed from paper but we all know they are.We know they are farther into it than Co conspirators.
It will forever be brought up.Just because you will have it removed ,if possible,doesn't mean it's not a fact.
I hope the laywers and the judge will see to what advantage to CAIR and thier degenerates it would be to have that status removed.
Let them rot with the title co conspirators,they earned it through allahs will.
Let no one person out there forget that islam has justified the killing of MILLIONS of innocent people mostly of which are to be children.
There should be NO mercy and NO pity for a single muslim out there.NONE.They are all suspicious and under my microscope.Call it what you want i don't care because i have NOT ever signed on to PC and MC.Thats others religion not mine.
If the political elite wish to play games and act out experiments or build thier own personal idea of a free world then i suggest finding a uninhabited island and starting one.Maybe Islam could give them aid and a helping hand.
Neither have a friend in me.I suggest they realize it as there would be less pain all the way around.
Is it pronounced Ped-ill-a or Ped-ee-ya?
Wouldn't want the executioner to make a final faux pas.
Folks: One must understand that a jihadist wants to die for jihad! Whether it be from the sword, lead, rope, electricity, or chemicles. This is how they achieve their nirvana! If they knew they would spend their remaining days in a bathroom with a bunk, no sunlight, no darkness, and all the bologna sandwiches they want, they would be very afraid of coming here and getting caught. I say warehouse them and let the world know we inflict no cruel and inhuman punishment; I'll pay my share!
Now, how old is Jose?
Offtopic: some thoughts for traeh re the mailout.
- I'm in Australia so can't take part.
Perhaps sheikyermami and gramfan here in Oz could get a similar project going, for OUR members of parliament (federal and state) and OUR senators - I don't think I have what takes to coordinate it.
Hope you get the whole US 100 covered - good luck!
Just a thought: anyone tried mailing a set of The Truth About Muhammad, The PIG to Islam and the Crusades, and Religion of Peace? to Mr Bill Gates? With a strong hint that perhaps he could - completely anonymously - sponsor a NON-PC 'centre for Islamic studies' staffed entirely by the likes of Ms Hirsi Ali, Mr Ibn Warraq, Mr Bostom, Mr Spencer, Mr Fitzgerald, Mr Ali Sina, and with Mme Bat Yeor as distinguished guest ? Since the longterm method to reduce the number of refugees in the world, reduce the number of active wars, increase female literacy, increase female life expectancy, increase uptake of polio shots, etc etc, is to defeat the jihad and make a serious attempt at deprogramming large numbers of Muslims. Right now, the advance of Islam, as in Darfur and S Sudan, is annihilating any gains Gates' philanthropy seeks to achieve.
Does anyone know if Mr Gates has swallowed the usual rubbish about the 'religion of peace'? He is rolling in sufficient wealth of his own manufacture, to be able to laugh at Saudi bribes.
Again: are there any Irish citizens here who can tell me how to contact Bono of U2? I know some see him as a lost cause but I plan to write him anyway with a copy of Bill Warner's ''Tears of Jihad' , some horror stories from Bat Yeor, Bostom and Ram Lal, multiple martyrdom and persecution accounts re. Copts, Pakistani Christians, etc., and suggest he write a Rock Requiem or Irish Lament for the Victims of Jihad, all 270 million estimated at last count - and most of them Africans. Perhaps I should throw a copy of 'Religion of Peace?' in to boot.
And now, FRY HIM!
The report on NPR this morning was nauseating, worse than the article above. They emphasized his being held 3 years without trial. We heard from his poor mother who says she's going to appeal because he never did anything wrong. We heard from his imam who taught him Arabic, who's shocked because he's such a nice boy. They used words like allege and claim to describe the government's point of view, even though he's now been declared guilty, which means in the eyes of the law, he DID do those things. I know he's innocent until proven guilty, but now he's been proven guilty, so stop acting like he's still innocent, ok NPR? If you didn't know any better, you would come away from the report thinking a miscarriage of justice had been done. Where's my puke bag?
I'm all for the Gen Pop treatment, kinda like what Dhiren Barot got.
Works for me.
Why did the DoJ and the media refuse to accord the convicted the honor of his name, Abdullah Al-Muhajir. Had he simply failed to legally change it on his passport etc.? I'd whisper "conspiracy" if I thought there was any truth to it.