Afghanistan: Suicide bomber kills official and children

Concerning the famous "M" word - "Misunderstandings" - code for Islam - here's an article I found that may interest the many Catholic JW'ers.

What do you think the Priest means when, toward the end of page 1, he remarks, "...there's a lot of MISUNDERSTANDINGS (caps mine) happening between faiths." Code for Islam, or not?

http://media.www.lsureveille.com/media/storage/paper868/news/2007/06/21/News/New-Priest.Returns.Home.To.Ctk-2917228.shtml

Islam or else...Forget ROP

cant you feel the love from the ROP,, aka religion of pieces... any muslim appologist cannot find any excuses now?

Of course martyrs don't view martyrdom as suicide, they consider it a grand and glorious action in the name of Allah. I consider it murder. Islam is chuck full of murderers, and murderous wanna-bes. Aint it grand to have Allah on your side? Only if you are an idiot...Allah loves an idiot, especially if it is a muslim idiot. Allahu Akbar...Islam leaves the idiot in full possession of his idiocy. 'Suicide' bombers prove it...

The early decades of the 20th century witnessed an unprecedented (at least since the church rule in europe) surge of anti-semitic litterature in both europe and the United States.
In his book "The Jews and modern Capitalism", German author and scholar "Werner Sombart", analyzed such diverse topics as the relation between the Jews and modern capitalism, Jewish characteristics, the origin of Jewish genius, and the social and economic threat they pose to host societies.
In an american version, Henry Ford in his "The International Jew" introduces the readers to such evil jewish schemes as "the Jewish Protocole", "the Jewish implication in the bootlegging evil", "the jewish roots of bolshevism", "the jewish control of music, theater, litteruature and culture", "the jewish gamblers' corruption of American baseball", or conspiracies such as how Jewish liquor manufacturers invented the "nigger gin" to push "negroes" to commit crimes and cause internal unrest in the society.
Such pulications were very popular at that time, and thousands of books and articles dealing with the "jewish problem" were published each year during the 3 early decades of the 20th century. This anti-semitic social psychosis didn't come to an end, till the world woke up to the horror of the Nazi genocide of millions of European Jews.
History has taught us, that mass persecution and genocide against a group, are always preceded by years or decades of propaganda destined to the masses. This maxim is still valid in our days, and no matter how "advanced" and "enlightened" we become, the animal instinct of the human being will never languish.
History repeats itself, but this time the perceived threat is not Jewish, but Muslim. We're still in the propaganda phase, with hundreds of "Muslim" conspiracy books and publications appearing each year. More and more people in the west are convinced that there is a conspiracy engineered by european Leftists and Muslims to turn Europe into a Eurabia, even more think that there is really an international Muslim conspiracy to conquer the West and implant the Sharia in it.
Every muslim is part of the big conspiracy and every muslim is a Jihadist who plays the taqqiya while waiting for the final order to wage the final great Jihad.
It's very ironic how history repeats itself, people seem to never learn from history. It's also ironic how the anti-muslim hysteria paved the way to the rebirth of the same fascists who committed the biggest genocide in the history of 20th century europe. Fascist parties are growing(resurrecting) fast in old Europe, they're having good days, just like in the 20's of the last century. Our propagandist Spencer and his fascist self played by Hugh Fitzgerald, are thrilled by the growing popularity of far-right parties and fascist demagogues in Europe, they called them anti-dhimmis and the Charles Martels of our days. If we were living in the early decades of the 20th century, and instead of Jews, there were millions of Muslims in Europe, Hitler would probably have been described as an anti-dhimmi hero, and a Charles Martel by our guru Spencer.
Even if it's sad to admit it, I strongly believe that fascism will seize europe again in the next few decades. Europeans will regain their Nationalism and ethno-centrism, and the victims will be not only Muslims, but everyone perceived as alien to Europe, that is, racial, ethnic and religious minorities be they chinese, or Hindues, or Blacks, or even gypsies. Even our Catholic Arab Spencer will probably not be accepted in a Nationalist and ethno-centric Europe.

mohammedan maniacs who want to kill themselves are a dime a dozen.

Hell, if i had to be a mohammedan, I too would want to "blow and go."

Levi...whats yer point?

Just when you thought you heard it all:

MEMRI TV: Saudi Cleric On Islam Ruling the World

There are rules of shari’a in everything. We have counted almost 70 rules
about how to urinate and defecate. In contrast, how do those beasts in the
West answer the call of nature? They stand in front of other people, in
toilets at airports and other public places. They do not care about covering
their private parts. Even their underwear is colored and not white, so it
can conceal all that filth. We are a nation that has long known the meaning
of cleanliness, what to do when nature calls, and what the rules of hygiene
are. The others, to this day, live like beasts.

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/08/17/memri-tv-saudi-cleric-on-islam-ruling-the-world/

Levi...whats yer point?

mohammedan maniacs who want to kill themselves are a dime a dozen.

Hell, if i had to be a mohammedan, I too would want to "blow and go."

Levi,

Hitler wasn't fascist. Mussolini was, and I don't recall massive killings on his part.

Hitler was closer in ideology to Stalin, and the 'Palestinians' had an SS squad.

So, do you have a logical point here? Or are you just accusing JWers of murdering millions?

Oh, right...the red herring attempt. Nice try (not really), but we see right through that, troll.

Levi...whats yer point?
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Duh_Swami, if you learn how to write proper english, maybe I'll consider giving some attention to your ignorant angry rants.
Till then, you can extract whatever conclusion you want from my posts, just refrain from addressing me directly.
Thank you.

Uh, Levi Toledano, the "fascists" are the Mohammedans. I'm very sorry you miss that obvious point.

And, the "mass-persecutors" and "genociders" are the Mohammedans. Yes, they definitely want to "turn Europe into Eurabia" and "implant sharia." Yes, yes, yes. Many Mohammedan imams/mullahs have said OUT LOUD that they desire an international Caliphate.

Yes, "Muslims" are "the threat," no doubt about it.

Hey - thanks for clarifying all those points! I was blindly ignorant 'till you showed up with all your wisdom and prescience, Mr. Levi Toledano!

Kinda indicates how vile and disgusting is the islamic faith even when killing other muslims.

An inferior supremicist religion which gives one leave to murder rape and pillage whatever the local imam says.

They also killed Malcolm X.

Levi...whats yer point?
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Duh_Swami, if you learn how to write proper english, maybe I'll consider giving some attention to your ignorant angry rants.
Till then, you can extract whatever conclusion you want from my posts, just refrain from addressing me directly.
Thank you.

LeviToledano has a point, I can see the parallels.

What about those Jews in 1915 who flew a Sopwith Camel into a building full of people?
Those Jews in 1921 who walked into a cafe full of people and holding a large black spherical object marked bomb, lit the fuse?
What about those Jews, who took over a school, in some Russian province somewhere, and then kindly let the mother's leave, but only take one of their children?
What about those Jews who carry out honour killings?
For centuries now, these evil Jews have spew all sorts of filth from their pulpits everyday, haven't they?
Then there's that Jewish law, where if a woman is raped there have to be at least five hundred male witnesses before she's stoned to death for adultery.
Then of course there's the well known Jewish plan to take over the world and rule through a Jewish caliphate, with one Jew at its head, who has an ear to god, and a strange black hat.
Of course, we have evidence of this, because the Jewish state immediately became a Facist dictatorship and attacked all it's neighbours, while teaching it's school children that it's neighbours were subhuman beasts who need to be exterminated.
Of course, there's also that famous line in the Jewish Holy Book, quick, there's someone who isn't a Jew, set him on fire and marry a 5 year old(or something like that).
Then theirs those Jews you see firing blunderbusses into the air at every opportunity, while stealing the equipment out of hospitals.

Hang on a minute, my mistake, that's not the Jews is it, now who could it be then?

You're right Levi, Facism is on the rise, this time they're from the Middle East though, just like those Jews who supported Hitler in WW2, because he tried to kill all the Muslims: Men, Women and Children; no my mistake, who were those supporters again?

Levi has it wrong, and I'm not surprised.

Mussolini is the only true fascist from the 20th Century, and he didn't participate in the massive killings of Hitler...who in reality comes closer to Stalin in ideology.

The 'propoganda' of which JW is accused is actually reports of events (I've heard them called 'facts') and the Koranic influences (I've heard those called 'references'). WOW...serious 'propoganda' here.

So anti-Semitism has existed throughout millenia...SO??? YOU are feeding into it RIGHT NOW, so congrats on continuing the tradition of denigrating Jews.

You'd be better off at HuffPo or DailyKos with that attitude coupled with ignorance.

Wooooo....Look who's all High and Mighty! Mr. Levi Toledano the Islamophile.

Sorry, nothing to be high and mighty about there.

hi Miss_Misanthrope, (nice name , at least you're honest )

here is the definition of fascism:
Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the needs of the state, and seeks to forge a type of national unity, usually based on, but not limited to, ethnic, religious (added by me), cultural, or racial attributes. (from wikipedia)
Following the above definition populist dictators such as Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Mugabe and Khomeini, were and are all, Fascists.
And thanks for the nice ad-hominem "troll", it proves the intellectual skills of Spencer's groupies.
have a nice day.

Duh_Swami,

Your feeling huwt by the wude wantings of Levi? Vewy wude, isn't he?

No, Hitler's Nazism is more than just your cute little definition. If you'd study it more, you'd see that.

And you're right about ONE THING:

At least I'M honest.

Levi:

You suffer from the disease of equivalence.

It's a moral disease where you dis your own heritage and say it is no better than another.

Read the koran, fool. Know your enemy, and it is not us.

Miss Misanthrope,

The best you could come up with was a red-herring "whether Nazis were fascists or not".
Unfortunately you have this wonderful tool called Internet, and hopefully you'll learn what is the true definition of Fascism.
Antisemitism wasn't just an attribute of Nazis, but all the Nationalists, Conservatives, Statists, reactionary circles of the early 20th century.

Besides High and Mighty, Mr. Toledano's Mr. Sensitivity! Oh, you got called a "troll," my-oh-my. When I think of all the nasty ad hominem's (there's no hyphen between ad and hominem, btw) we get called by those Religion of Peacers!

Here's another brutal ad hominem for you, Levi - Ostrich. Hope you recover from the verbal assault you've received on JW. You may have to be hospitalized.

You don't understand the connection in ideologies between Hitler and Stalin, and that Leftists have been anti-Semitic too?

You need more study time...seriously.

IMO when we read about suicide horror murders like this we should all think:

STOP MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW!

Our sellout politicians won't even think of it. They are so irresponsible that the jihadist probably have them on an off-limits list - shame.

Thanks, darcy...I accidentally added the hyphen.

And Levi, learn to SPELL Miss_Anthrope. Up your spelling 'standards' to include yourself for once.

I think Levi needs to go take a look at the most recent article posted on JW. It concerns a Saudi Cleric. Take a look, Levi, why don't you?

Levi, my BOY. I will address you when ever I choose, if you don't like that TOO BAD...get lost troll...

Knock-knock.

Who's there?

Islam.

Islam-who?

Islam your blown-off head into the far wall of your house when I press the plunger on my suicide belt.

No thanks, we gave at the orifice.

Oh darcy, you blew me up, tore me into pieces... I put a hyphen between ad and hopminem, how foolish of me, I gotta put a bullet in my skull, better die than live in the shame of "putting a hyphen between ad and hominem".
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Miss Misanthrope

anthrope from antrôpos ("human being") Miss+anthrope sounds like misanthrope, which means someone who dislikes people. It wasn't a misspelling my dear. Unfortunately it seems you're quite dull to detect sarcasm, too bad.

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Hi dgene

I read the Quran and I think it's a manual of stupidity and superstition just like the bible and other religious "sacred" books.
I don't respect Islam as a religion, but I respect the right of Muslims to worship.
I believe we should have zero tolerance towards terrorists and hate propaganders, however I oppose adopting fascistic measures against a whole religious group as proposed by your right-wing gurus. We punish criminals not their families.
I believe Radical Islam is an evil that should be destroyed, just like communism and fascism before, however I will never ever pander to, or take as allies, fascists, reactionaries, racists and nationalists, the ones who hate my people as much (or more) as they hate muslims and other groups. We cannot fight evil with evil, you cure disease with drugs not with other diseases.

ouch Darcy, I've just realized I spelled "hominem" as "hopminem". I think it's time to pull the trigger. :-)

I don't respect Islam as a religion, but I respect the right of Muslims to worship.
I believe we should have zero tolerance towards terrorists and hate propaganders,

That is what Islam is.

Levi,

Exactly what is 'radical" Islam? If Mo was alive today, would he be concidered a radical or a moderate Muslim?

Miss Misanthrope is NOT my name, Levi...

Who's the one not catching the play on words?

THINK FIRST, TYPE LATER.

re: LeviTolendano

When one looks past Levi's attempt to educate us on history, history that repeats itself because lessons are not learned, we can clearly see that he is living in the usual alternate Islamic reality.

He tries to draw comparisons to historical anti-semitism which culminated in the genocidal attempt by Hitler and the Nazis during WWII and what he perceives currently as a setting of the board for Muslim genocide in the near future. He cites examples of propogandist literature (Spencer) and the rise of fascist entities (Fitzgerald) as evidence to support his theory.

The curious thing about history is that it needs to be understood in its chronological context. When one looks at the "defensive" crusades and the chronological events that preceded them, a vastly different picture is represented than if the crusades were unprovoked and "offensive" in nature.

Chronology is paramount to historical study. Robert Spencer and the board of trustees at JihadWatch created this news information internet site specifically as a result of 9/11. Let's be clear here, AFTER the "perceived" threat of Islamic violence was actualized by the Islamists themselves. There may be some validity to Levi's statements if the chronological order was reversed but alas, it is not.

The moral eqivalence of the "persecuted Jew" and the "persecuted Muslim" is not equivalent at all. The Jews were guilty of nothing but being cohesive as a group and prosperous, largely ignoring the upcoming chronological events that would befall them. In direct contrast, the Muslim responds to perceived persecution with violence. To the Islamist, the shortcomings that have befallen them and their collective societies are never attributable to themselves, but always an extraneous entity, effectively known as all things non-Islamic.

Day in and day out we encounter examples of Islam simply being Islam. It's protocols, goals, tactics, etc, we are quite familiar with. Propoganda? Well, only if one is prone to ignore their senses and dwell somewhere in an alternate reality. Escapism has it's merits but certainly not as a full-time occupation.

History in chronological context. An excellent way to approach it. There are those however, like Levi, who will never let chronological historical facts get in the way of a really juicy conspiracy theory.

UPDATE:

Before this was even posted, I offer a response to Levi's statement that,

"More and more people in the west are convinced that there is a conspiracy engineered by european Leftists and Muslims to turn Europe into a Eurabia, even more think that there is really an international Muslim conspiracy to conquer the West and implant the Sharia in it."

Hmmm.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017819.php#comments

Now where would anyone get that crazy idea from??

Levi,
See, like you were told - you diss your own heritage (the Bible), which secular or religious is wonderful and unique, and part of our heritage.
So you're into equivalence, fool.
Tolerance of the intolerant is obscene.
Go destroy the best of yourself.
But no free ride here.

You just don't get it, Levi.

If you act all High and Mighty, you better dot every i and cross every t...

And there you are acting all high and mighty towards Miss_Anthrope again. Just who do you think you are?

You better get with the hyphens and hominems program, i.e. grammar and spelling. I hear there's remedial courses starting at your community college next week.

Awake,

"More and more people in the west are convinced that there is a conspiracy engineered by european Leftists and Muslims to turn Europe into a Eurabia, even more think that there is really an international Muslim conspiracy to conquer the West and implant the Sharia in it."

All one has to do is read Bat Ye'or's well documented book and look at Europe today is all you need.

Miss_Anthrope...Thanx for your cancern, my freelings ar nut hort.
Levi is a troll because he did not come here to learn anything, but to defame and pretend superiority. He is not the first troll to do that, and wont be the last...

Duh_Swami -

Gud...Im glaid. I thik we r all glaid ur fillings rnt hiurt.

Miss_Anthrope & Duh Swami,

Did you guys start the Happy Hour early today, and without me?

Till then, you can extract whatever conclusion you want from my posts, just refrain from addressing me directly.
Thank you.
Posted by: LeviToledano

You come in here and you think you can tell US how to address you, Evil?

You must surely by a mahometan, judging by your impertinence.

Know your place, moslem, or refrain from posting here and wasting our time.

Thats the difference between a warrior and a terrorist. A terrorist will kill women, children, un-armed men and the old on purpose. A warrior will do everything they can to avoid that atrocity.

Levi states: "I believe we should have zero tolerance towards terrorists and hate propaganders, however I oppose adopting fascistic measures against a whole religious group as proposed by your right-wing gurus."

You believe in zero tolerance towards terrorists, so we definitely see eye-to-eye on that point, but what I don't agree with is your assessment that "fascistic measures" are being taken on Muslims, so I don't quite follow your drift.

Websters defines fascism this way:
"A philosophy or system of government that is marked by stringent social and economic control, a strong, centralized government usually headed by a dictator, and often a policy of belligerent nationalism."

Your theory that "fascistic measures" are being leveled against Muslims becomes weak because I don't see any of the elements mentioned above present, not only in our government, but by the posters on JW as well.

So perhaps you meant something else, because "fascistic measures" isn't a good fit, not unless you're willing to exaggerate statements made by others.

Where is the stringent social and economic control?

Where is our strong, centralized government that is [usually] headed by a dictator?

Where is the belligerent nationalism?

Ya forgot the get-out-of-jail-free card: taqqiyah
In short, it's:
1) anything done in the name of islam is always right
2) if anything's done that contradicts islam, rule 1 takes precedence.

Man, they just can't lose with that one, eh?

Major Oops factor!!

I meant to say "NOT" by the posters on JW. Sorry folks!

Wait, Levi! We didn't discuss your community college remedial curriculum yet! Come back!

Did I miss the Groupies of Robert Spencer Official Fascist Meeting again!?

Dang!

Must have forgotten to set my patented A.Hitler alarm clock.

Now I don't have my marching (of course, I mean goosestepping) orders for the day!

Time to round up some innocent Muslims... be back later.

"I believe we should have zero tolerance towards terrorists and hate propaganders"---Levi

Uh, Levi? I think the word you want is propagandists. Did you get "propaganders" from wikipedia, as well as your definition for fascism?

I thought propaganders were male geese who never have a feather out of place, dress well, dance divinely, and never commit social gaffes. Like trying to tell other people whom they may or may not address.

Around here, most of us don't respond with obedience to someone else's demands to censor ourselves.

Isabella,

Just saw your post...been "under the weather" for a couple days now. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*

We'll make sure to getcha to join us next time...sorry we left you out, it wasn't intentional!