CAIR officials were there too. Holy Land Foundation case update: by David Koenig for Associated Press (thanks to all who sent this in):
DALLAS (AP) - An FBI agent testified Monday that leaders of a local Muslim charity helped plot how to derail a Middle East peace accord that they feared would prevent the elimination of Israel.The agent said leaders of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development were among U.S.-based supporters of the Palestinian militant group Hamas who met at a Philadelphia hotel in 1993.
The agent said the FBI bugged the conference room, capturing conversations in which Holy Land Chief Executive Shukri Abu Baker repeatedly told attendees to refer to Hamas as "Samah" - Hamas spelled backward.
Baker and four other former Holy Land officials - including Abdulrahman Odeh, the group's New Jersey representative - are charged with aiding a terrorist group, conspiracy and money laundering for allegedly funneling millions of dollars to Hamas through charities controlled by the militants.
The Holy Land Foundation had a Paterson, N.J., chapter.
As their trial began its third week on Monday, U.S. District Judge A. Joe Fish rejected a defense move for a mistrial. He also dismissed a third juror - no explanation was given - leaving only three alternates plus 12 jurors for a case that could last several months.
The Philadelphia meeting was highlighted in the 2004 indictment against the leaders of Holy Land, which was the nation's largest Muslim charity until federal agents shut it down in December 2001. The testimony of FBI agent Lara Burns provided additional details about the event, including the participation of leaders of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a leading U.S. Muslim-rights group.
The meeting occurred as Hamas sought to block the Oslo accords, a deal that would have led to Palestinian self-rule but also coexistence with Israel.
It's so much more fun (and so much more muhammadan) to HATE.
They hate because they're muhammadans
and they're muhammadans because they worship the most vile fiend that ever trod the earth.
"The agent said leaders of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development were among U.S.-based supporters of the Palestinian militant group Hamas who met at a Philadelphia hotel in 1993."
...was this before the Twin Towers bombing on 2/26/93?.......
Well if CAIR officials were there then it must be ok... When will people see the truth about Islam?
holy land foundation and cair can never be trusted. activist muslims are taught to "LIE" and I'm not sure either of these insect organizations has ever told the truth.
Council on American Islamic Relations and Hamas have done well by the Oslo Accords. Hamas and affiliates have murdered many hundreds of innocent Jews since 1993, many more thousand are maimed for life. CAIR should be grateful for the Oslo accords.
Council on American Islamic Relations and Hamas have done well by the Oslo Accords. Hamas and affiliates have murdered many hundreds of innocent Jews since 1993; many more thousands have been maimed for life. CAIR should be grateful for the Oslo accords.
The agent said the FBI bugged the conference room, capturing conversations in which Holy Land Chief Executive Shukri Abu Baker repeatedly told attendees to refer to Hamas as "Samah" - Hamas spelled backward......
snadammahum sepiwttub you just can't trust them.
I'm glad to hear the FBI were present doing their job. It must annoy the hell out of CAIR.
HA HA HA
CAIR...the enemy within.
"The agent said the FBI bugged the conference room, capturing conversations in which Holy Land Chief Executive Shukri Abu Baker repeatedly told attendees to refer to Hamas as "Samah" - Hamas spelled backward".
Some day we shall all hear the Jew-hating comments of Uberfraud-CAIR-Minister of Propaganda Ibby Hooper. Ibby Hooper is a turd-with-ears, a Brownshirt. Ibby Hooper is a liar. Ibby Hooper likes Hitler's "spiritual terror" tactics:
"I understood the infamous spiritual terror which this movement exerts, particularly on the bourgeoisie, which is neither morally nor mentally equal to such attacks; at a given sign it unleashes a veritable barrage of lies and slanders against whatever adversary seems most dangerous, until the nerves of the attacked persons break down and, just to have peace again, they sacrifice the hated individual (Robert and others).
However, the fools obtain no peace.
The game begins again and is repeated over and over until fear of the mad dog results in suggestive (PC) paralysis.........Conversely, they praise every weakling on the opposing side (who appease them), sometimes cautiously, sometimes loudly, depending on the real or supposed quality of his intelligence".
Charles Laughton nails Ibby Hooper in court...
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=charles+laughton%2C+witness+for+the+prosecution&hl=en
"Ibby Hooper is...a liar"!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4223799223341699236&q=charles+laughton%2C+witness+for+the+prosecution&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
The bush administration undoubtedly has known about CAIR's support for terrorist groups for many years. yet they made no objections when CAIR was invited to the re-dedication ceremony of the Wash. D.C. islamic center where bush was the guest of honor & featured speaker. hmmm.
bush's motto for fighting radical islam seems to be: Why let reality intrude on a good fantasy? funny, but that also seems to be his thinking behind his efforts to democratize Iraq.
Here is an interesting video...has a recommendation for RS' book, and music by our own Sheik Yermami
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zi9o7AXz_Ao
I know I'm gettring older, but as a kid in the 60's and 70's growing up cair and it's supporters would have been disbanded and deported or jailed. What has happened to America? We fear all other's supposed rights while giving free reign to hate filled monsters whom seek nothing but death and destruction to America and Israel,Australia,Britan and a few other free peoples. Why?
Loved the tune Sheik Yermami! COOL
AMartinez,
As with virtually every other problem plaguing us in western civilization...it's political correctness-firmly rooted in every facet of the western world...and needs to be ripped out by the roots.
It is quite simply about time that our government stepped in an established a simple and rational policy toward terrorist organizations and their support network in the West. An organization that has or does fund terrorism should be outlawed, as should any organization whose founding members have engaged in the funding of terrorist organizations. Anything less is the kind of hypocrisy and parsing of simple facts into dangerous nuances. CAIR is an organization that is an outgrowth of an "charity" founded for the soul purpose of funding outlawed terrrorist organizations. Some of CAIR's present leadership, including its top dog, Executive Director Nihad Awad, have been unequivocally tied to these activities. CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in the case against the Holy Land foundation, a terrorist-funding charity front.
If the Holy Land foundation is found guilty of funding outlawed terrorist organizations, CAIR should not only be sanctioned but outlawed. This is plain and simple logic.
If politicians wish to restore the confidence of American voters, they should act in a way that is consistent and non-hypocritical. They should not make exceptions for certain organizations on technicalities, that we know just mean that they are afraid of in some stand to benefit by protecting such organizations.
The Holy Land case will be a bench mark. If CAIR is not outlawed or at best forced to completely reorganize at the level of leadership and their foreign funding structure, we will know that this is all a show with no teeth and nothing of real meaning. In that case, we should make our dissatisfaction known with letters, votes and whatever other means we can muster.
It is time for responsible behavior. If the government cannot exhibit even a iota of responsible behavior, we should use all legal means to pressure it to do so. Things have gone too far for too long. WE ARE THE PEOPLE.
Land Chief Executive Shukri Abu Baker repeatedly told attendees to refer to Hamas as "Samah" - Hamas spelled backward.
l had a good laugh at this one, we have cair posing as some clueless spys, trying to fool everyone by trying remind their cohorts to spell things backwards! well idoits they are, no one can hide their monstrous activies much longer. hope they get to spend eternity in hell. where all their virgins look like mrs clinton.
from Matthew Levitt"
"Hamas activists in the United States met in Philadelphia in 1993 to decide how to respond to the Oslo process process. Interestingly, the al-Salah society was specifically discussed at this meeting. In a presentation on "the situation in Palestine" and the status of "Islamic works" tied to Hamas, Muin Kamel Mohammed Shabib, a member of Hamas’s Izz al Din al Qassam terrorist wing, described the institutions tied to Hamas as falling under the following classifications: educational (schools, universities), social and charitable (refugees, orphans, relief), cultural, health institutions (clinics, medical centers), public syndicates, technical institutions, sports clubs, media, religious institutions, and women's institutions. Shabib then proceeded to list specific institutions tied to Hamas, which he described as "our institutions," including the al-Salah Association. "