CAIR whines about anti-jihad blogs in terror charity case legal filing

In CAIR's Amicus Curiae brief to the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas, Dallas Division, in the Holy Land Foundation terror charity case, CAIR complains about anti-jihad blogs' reporting on its being named an unindicted co-conspirator in the case: World Net Daily (which is not actually a weblog), the Counterterrorism Blog, Militant Islam Monitor and Little Green Footballs.

What, no Jihad Watch? Ibrahim, you disappoint me.

CORRECTION: Jihad Watch reader Shiloh points out below that Jihad Watch is mentioned on page 9 of the brief. My faith in Ibrahim Hooper is restored.

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If CAIR is whining about anti-jihad blogs, that is proof in itself CAIR is a terrorist supporting organization.

Have they complained yet about people standing around the office water coolers at break time, discussing CAIR's status as unindicted co-conspirators?

What about discussing it on the subway or at the bus stop?

All of this unpoliced talk must end!

Of course, CAIR supports free speech, but, but, but...

I can understand claims that weblogs aren't the most reliable source of info, but CAIR seems to want to silence critics--in true Islamic fashion. CAIR is a terrorist organization, even if they rely on non-physical intimidation.

And yes, by complaining about anti-jihad blogs they show themselves to be supporters of jihad--and hence terrorists.

Truth hurts CAIR and I dont CAIR. :-)

Why do they worry so much about others damaging their reputation? They're doing quite a nice job of it on their own. CAIR is becoming more unhinged by the day-maybe we'll soon be treated to the sight of Iblis Hooper on welfare for want of a job. Inshallah!

"the list of unindicted coconspirators has spread and gained notoriety through non-mainstream media, as well, including various 'anti-terrorism' weblogs.


NON-MSM? . . . you don't say!

Apparently, the blogs are making a difference. It appears that deep pockets of the house of Saud can't buy influence with folks that have stopped buying the PC-MC MSM line. If that disappoints those like CAIR - GOOD!

blast from the recent past..

jimmy cracked corn and I don't CAIR.

They didnt mention jihadwatch? You should feel insulted Robert. :-)

Actually, Jihad Watch does get a mention (page 9).

Interestingly, CAIR openly admits that the publicity surrounding this case has hurt them financially (".. negative reaction by the American public can be seen in the decline of membership rates and donations", p10).

And long may that decline continue.

So unindicted co-conspirators CAIR have consulted m'learned American friends because they are upset at being so labelled? Oh dear.

In future we had better watch our language when talking about Saudi-funded unindicted co-conspirators CAIR, shouldn't we?

After all, we would not want to tarnish the reputation of Saudi-funded unindicted co-conspirators CAIR by mentioning the totally unimportant facts that they are (a) Saudi-funded and (b) unindicted co-conspirators.

... "the list of unindicted coconspirators has spread and gained notoriety through non-mainstream media..."

So is there a mainstream media somewhere? Am I missing something?

"Interestingly, CAIR openly admits that the publicity surrounding this case has hurt them financially (".. negative reaction by the American public can be seen in the decline of membership rates and donations", p10). -And long may that decline continue. -Posted by: shiloh

More like they are throwing out the well worn victim card.
CAIR membership falls 90 percent since 9/11

By Audrey Hudson, The Washington Times
Membership in the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has declined more than 90 percent since the 2001 terrorist attacks, according to tax documents obtained by The Washington Times.

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Numbers don't lie

However, the question has to be asked: if there are in fact 8 million Muslims in America, just how many of them does CAIR actually represent? Of course, if you were to ask that question of Ibrahim Cooper, CAIR National spokesman, he would say all of them. But a close inspection of internal documents of the radical Islamic organizations that represent themselves as advocates of the exponentially increasing Muslim masses betrays a difficult truth – that they actually represent few American Muslims at all:

* An inspection of CAIR’s most recent publicly available IRS Form 990 (2004) shows for that year they received $119,029 in membership dues for that year (line 3). But at $25 per membership (the current rate is $35), that would mean that in 2004, CAIR only had 4,761 dues-paying members – less than 5,000 members out of 8 million Muslims in America. This would mean that CAIR only represents 1 out of every 1,680 Muslims. Even if a lower 6 million Muslim population figure were assumed, CAIR would still only be able to claim representation for 1 out of every 1,260 Muslims for that year.
* MAS is in even worse shape than CAIR when it comes to actual representation of the American Muslim community. In 2004, MAS received only $87,299 in membership dues, which represents a dramatic decrease in membership from 2003 ($366,613 in members dues received) and 2002 ($378,993 received). Membership has declined so rapidly for MAS that they have stopped offering memberships on their website altogether, though MAS has not publicly acknowledged, let alone explained, their stunning membership decline since 9/11.


The designation of "un-indicted co-conspirator" is recent (2007). The above links detail their membership decline has been precipitous and steady for a number of years and for reasons totally unrelated to this designation.

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So is mine. LOL .... LMAO

Robert you are one of our great heroes of FREEDOM OF SPEECH. CAIR you cry baby, stop crying, we all know your hidden agenda, it is nothing but silence your critics, and impose your beliefs on KAFIRS.

Wonderful that Doug Hooper continues to think of you, Mr. Spencer!

How thoughtful!

The bad news for Doug “The Lap Doggy” Hooper is that he’s trying to use the primitive 7th century Taqqiya against society. A society that has Madison Avenue blitzing them every day. A society that has the MSM trying to spin every story and even 13 year old boys catch them at shopped photos. A society that has politicians trying to redefine what “IS” is. A society that has instant access to more information at their finger tips in the Internet then the Librarian of Alexandria ever dreamed off.

Sorry Doggy Hooper, but ya really need to brush up on your Taqqiya techniques, I hear Hezabolla is getting very good at mass media, even making video games to aid their tom foolery.

ROFLMAO at CAIR BABIES

Greetings:

For me, what this item drives home is how the more mainstream media is ignoring and or failing to report CAIR's un-indicted co-conspirator status.

There have been several items reported in my locale involving CAIR, (a mosque arson and CAIR's annual list of anti-Muslim "atrocities" come to mind) in which the media made no mention of the US Department of Justice's action.

No mention of Anti-CAIR http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

in their brief. Interesting, eh?

These weblogs are often extremely biased and inaccurate in their reporting, leading to even more severe damage to the reputation of the unindicted coconspirators. "

What reputation is that? Severe damage is called for. Extermination is what is needed, not Hooper, CAIR, as a political entity. Hooper and other CAIR officials need to get real jobs, like cab drivers, gas station attendants, janitors, or some other socially acceptable employment. It will probably come about anyway, after they get out of jail...

I wouldn't have Hooper as a taxi driver. First he would have to take his coffee filter off...

CAIR, go away.
No, actually...islam, all of islam....go away.

My question is: When will CAIR be indicted as conspirators in enabling terrorist organisations to flourish? Why is this propaganda machine quick to dissolve our Constitutional right to free speech at every drop of the hat? Are there no true blooded Americans left in the FBI, after establishing all the links that this organisation has to terrorists, that they would not work a case to bring it down?

Isn't that ashamed Doug “The Lap Doggy” Hooper is finally understanding that not everyone will buy into the lie his terrorist organization is.

When you provide money to those who are terrorists you by association become one.

The CAIR representatives are now verbally & phyiscally challeging individuals who have anti-islam bumperstickers on their vehicles in Central Ohio, doesn't that throw the alleged "religion of peace" label under the bus?

I live for the day that CAIR & NOI will completely auction off all it's assett as those claiming to be leaders are duck walked into prison to serve life long terms of imprisonment.

It's time all of these individuals are shown the exit door of our great & free country. Since it appears as though they've plenty of interest of trying to fix our government I encourage them to use the same vigor they show here wanting to subvert ours to return to their land of tin-horn pyscho dictators and give it a spin there. I'll wager they lose their heads inside of a week or become someone's cab driver.

ROFLMAO at islamic indignation and holier than thouness.....

I see the pacifier has fallen out of the mouth of the big baby in the UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATORS organization known as CAIR.

CAIRs UNINDICTED CO CONCPIRACY title should be left as it is until proven otherwise.

The UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATORS OF TERRORISM,CAIR, is complaining about loss of funding?What has Saudi Arabia started to feel the heat being associated with these UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATORS?

You see this is where the laws of Islam needs to be applied.The laws that state no infedel can speak out against those doing allahs work and labeling those pious and normal muslims as UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATORS.We must however still leave the laws of free speech intact because the UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATORS,CAIR,needs them to incite hatred and build the islamic one way street.

You know if one is to think properly CAIR being an UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATOR TO TERRORISM actually means ISLAM IS AN UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATOR TO TERRORISM.That works for this infedels mind.

May they both enjoy really soon the full title to INDICTED CONSPIRATORS TO TERRORISM.With a helping of charges against humanity,genocide and just being plain and outright stupid as hell.

One more thing before i go CAIR IS AN UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATOR TO TERRORISM.

CAIR IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION and Hooper is it's bitch.

Yes Dar-al-harb, and a cwy baby too.

RS perhaps you mean

My faith in Ibrahim Hooper is restored - such as it is.

Awwww poor little CAIR had its feelings hurt. There there.

Why don't you call one of Our Friends, the Sowdis, and ask them for more money?

"outright stupid as hell."- Posted by: Dar al-harb

This amicus curaie brief provides all the details CAIR wants to conceal from the public. Take a look at the brief on page 37 of this 57 page document. On that page, they identify an offending blog post with the title/date of an article published online by militantislammonitor.org which provides the hyperlink to CAIR's dreaded list of 'unindicted co-conspirators'. By filing this brief, they shot themselves in their own feet.

On page 10 of the Brief it states:

This negative reaction by the American public can be seen in the decline of membership
rates and donations resulting from the government’s publicizing of CAIR as an unindicted coconspirator.

Wait a second...hasn't CAIR been claiming lately that membership is strong...that the 'rumors' that membership has decline are false?

On page 51-52 of the Breif, it states:

Furthermore, the amount of donations that
they have been receiving has dwindled well below their monthly budget, and as their
associational activity necessarily relies upon donations from the public, the government’s
19 See Abdus Sattar Ghazali, Washington Times Smearing Campaign Against CAIR: A Fresh Sinister Move to Defame American Muslim Organizations, CCUN.org (June 13, 2007); CAIR Membership Plummets, WashingtonTimes.com (June 11, 2007)...labeling of them as an unindicted co-conspirator has chilled their associational activity...

If only that were true...that CAIR is supported by public donations.

For example, who owns the property, and the deed to the CAIR HQ building in DC, and provides at least $3 million in funding per year to CAIR?

Not to mention the $50 million pledge by UAE in 2006 to help CAIR 'improve the public image of Islam in the US?'

No doubt CAIR is using some of that $50 million to help pay the lawyers who filed the Amicus Brief.

One more thing before i go CAIR IS AN UNINDICTED CO CONSPIRATOR TO TERRORISM.

Who can tell me what is standing in the way of an indictment?

Let's put 'em out of their misery already...

LOL
They're whining about us normal, rational, anti-terrorist folks calling a spade a spade by calling terrorism terrorism?
LMAO...oh, that's rich!

I can picture a terminator unit now, snivelling about being called a terminator.
Man, I don't think even the hollyWEIRD lunatics could make up a story this pathetically illucid.

Beyond hilarious
Beyond insane
Beyond illucid
Beyond schizophrenic
Beyond dementia
What's next? We're hurting their feelings?
No, wait...they've already tried that one the other day, never mind...
LMAO

We will continue to call a spade the spade it is, ESPECIALLY if it "displeases CAIR", since it's old news that if they get mad, we know we're dead on target to exposing their terrorist lies, fraud deceit and 5th column activities.

The more I take time to read this I'm having the laugh of the day.

What's this bullshit about being sensitive to the needs of CAIR? This little pi** ant group who takes money directly from the saudis in a bid to silently take over local, county, state and federal agencies one by one is upset because they were caught in the act.

Anyone in our great country can be charged w/anything you'll receive due process. Unlike those who've been kidnapped & beheaded what about their due process? What about the due process of the over 3,400 victims of 9/11?

What is even more disturbing are these attorneys representing (I'm glad they could hire attorneys) them are simply whores that if these Islamofacists were to have their way would lose their heads as well.

Here's a thought for you what about the feelings of my 343 brothers that these Islamofacists murdered on 9/11 and their families?

Screw the whole lot of these unbathed nasty insurgents it'll only be a matter of time until they try to turn our country into a maze of roadside IED's and displays of mass beheadings, send them back to their 7th century rock & stick society they understand so well. The only difference is they'll find out like the British did that they'll lose in a price unimagined or written by the murdering peodohile pervert who crapped the koran.

You wanted something to complain about now you have it, what are you going to do next file another brief? Better yet what are you going to do tell me I can't step into your cab that smells like a camel stable?

**********ATTENTION!**************
********This just in!*************

Because of the tense situation, we will attempt to diffuse it.
Let's all take up a collection...because this just isn't right not to offer them any cheese to go with their whine.

Don't forget a box of tissues for their issues, too.
Protocol, mind you.
;-)

Sure glad I didn't call them "unindicted co-conspirators", but simply a Fifth Column for the anti-Constitutional ideology of Islam.

http://cairforterrorists.blogspot.com

We keep the pressure on Cair and their Organizations in America...maybe they move on out of America. They get so worked up and stressed out....blood pressure be rising and they want be able to think straight. For all you Muslims....we are American's (do not forget that).
I will say what I mean and mean what I say.
CAIR....go the hell to Middle East and keep your kind there..you will never rule America. And our government isn't gonna blow millions of American's off for you and your religion. When you fuss about your rights...remember, you have no rights here...you not American. A true American is anyone who is patriotic and will die for this country....not die to have virgins...that isn't there!
So tell ya daddy in nomad's land...his boy is coming home!
CAIR is the right hand of Hamas...
They sure whine alot (they 2 faced)..one whines, one kill's.

Let's Roll!

I'm wondering how long it will take our Congress to have sites like this indicted for hate crimes.

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