The sole purpose of the Flying Imams’ lawsuit is to intimidate the pilots and crews of planes. And it would have included passengers, but the effect on an angry public, quite capable of identifying with those passengers, was deemed to be too dangerous for the "image" of Islam. That image is sinking fast in any case, with each new outrage, and this lawsuit is one of those outrages.
But here there is a question of money. Who should pay the costs of defending such a lawsuit? Should it be U.S. Airways alone? If what the pilots and crew did was in the interests of all passengers on all flights -- and clearly it was -- and if those Muslims who are attempting to intimidate them are also attempting to intimidate the pilots and the crews (and the passengers, even if the "John Doe" part of the lawsuit was prudently dropped at the last minute), then it is all pilots, and all crews, and all passengers, in the United States who should be paying for the defense of those particular pilots, that particular crew.
Other airlines should offer not merely moral but financial support. There ought, perhaps, to be added on to airline tickets the cost of defending against such malevolent and dangerous litigation. For we will all suffer if the lawsuit succeeds, and we will all gain --- those of us who are not in the business of pushing the Jihad against Infidels, in any way we can -- if the defense against the lawsuit is successful. But it is important that the pain of the suit, the money that pays the lawyers, is shared by the entire population of passengers who take, or even rely on, travel by air.
Share the expense, and the pain -- and that way the full and sinister nature of what is being attempted will be more widely understood and publicized. Do not let US Airways do it alone. It shouldn't have to.
Their noisy and prolonged threat of suit, even if it is now over, no doubt has caused severe emotional stress to those passengers who had been -- rationally -- suspicious of the imams and reported them. In such circumstances, should not there be a lawsuit against the six imams for that very threat, and the way it continued until the very last, when Congressional legislation about those "John Does" was coming to the rescue?
Meanwhile, to prevent this kind of thing from happening in the future, perhaps a "Muslims-only" airline should be established -- Muslims-only except for the pilots, lest the plane head you-know-where -- and with a locked cabin, and possibly armed guards every few feet. Then Muslims can travel on that airline (oh, it can be a very big airline) and on no other. There would still be a security problem on other airlines for non-Muslims, for there will still be Muslim terrorists acting on the tenets of Islam as they not unreasonably interpret them, to conduct the Jihad by "striking terror" in the hearts of the enemy. But millions if not billions of man-hours in security-checks that are needless, would be saved each year, and in other ways also this would be a good solution. Islam divides the world between Believer and Infidel. As there is nothing that can be done to Islam (the canonical texts are immutable, and the gates of ijtihad slammed shut a thousand years ago, and self-dramatizing Irshad Manji is not about to swing them open), then Infidels, too, should come to regard the world as divided in this way. The world's main division is now that between Believer (Muslim) and Infidel (non-Muslim). That makes a lot of sense. It helps clear the mental air. It makes a policy of self-defense against the Jihad much more possible. No more worries over what constitutes a "moderate" Muslim or how to keep a "moderate" safely and forever "moderate," or how to make sure that the "moderate" Muslim's children do not turn out, for on reason or another, to be "immoderate" (like some of those London bombers). No: Infidel and Muslim.
That's what they believe. That's what they think. That's what many of them have acted upon in dar al-Islam, over a very long period, and given half a chance, that's exactly how they would act in what, for now, is still the Bilad al-kufr, the Lands of the Infidels.
So we should believe, and distinguish, in precisely the same way. It's the only way to protect ourselves.
I find this an absolutely inspired idea. Since it is the Muslims themselves who continue to lobby for separate facilities, let them finally put their money where their mouths are. The problems of special footbaths, prayers rooms, a refusal to be near alcohol or seeing eye dogs - all ideas of separatism and segregation can be accommodated in one fell swoop by the launching of an Islamic airlines. I am surprised I haven't heard of any Muslim grandstanding at being on the same plane, much less close proximity to infidel airline passengers who ask for a bottle of Jack Daniels to go with that Coke...
And of course it would be haram for ANY Muslim to ever want to fly another infidel airline ever again.
Bush should contact his Saudi compatriots to push this brilliant stroke of functional entrepreneurism.
Normally I'm in agreement with your concepts Fitzgerald ... but this ... no way. Beyond the obvious legal snafus, how long would it be before the enemy got its ow incorporated city with it's own federally susidized police force? No ... I fear this is a slope we don't want to slide down.
Normally I'm in agreement with your concepts Fitzgerald ... but this ... no way. Beyond the obvious legal snafus, how long would it be before the enemy got its ow incorporated city with it's own federally susidized police force? No ... I fear this is a slope we don't want to slide down.
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No alcohol, but plenty of little bags of figs.
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Muslim ONLY airline?
Air Infidel, right here!
With thanks to Savitch:
http://sheikyermami.com/category/humor/
Better yet, just cover all the seats in pigskin.
Then none of the muslims would fly much less blow up a plane where they were exposed to swine just before they died. Isn't that a guaranteed trip to hell?
And for a snack, pork rinds.
I'm sure the jews would pass on the snack, but is it ok for them to sit on a pig skin covered airline seat? Don't want to exclude the desired passengers along with the undesirables.
Let the muslims take a bus or finance their own airline.
Great idea, but it works only if no Muslim airlines from outside the country are allowed in. Are Egypt Air and other airlines from the Middle East allowed in US airspace? Surely the world's largest Muslim country, Indonesia, has its own airlines piloted by Muslims. How many of these airlines are allowed access to US airports?
Posted by: PMK
Surely the world's largest Muslim country, Indonesia, has its own airlines piloted by Muslims.
HA HA HA
Indonesia faces new airline ban
Lucy Williamson
BBC News, Jakarta
All Indonesian airlines are banned from flying to the European Union
Saudi Arabia has said it is considering banning Indonesian airlines from flying to the country for safety reasons.
The news comes less than a fortnight after the European Union announced a similar ban on all Indonesian airlines.
The ban came after two major air disasters in the Asian archipelago since the beginning of the year.
The transport ministry said it had received a letter from Saudi Arabia's aviation authority warning of the possible ban on all Indonesian flights.
According to a ministry spokesman, the ban is the result of a recent EU decision to blacklist Indonesian airlines on safety grounds.
Saudi Arabia, he said, normally follows EU aviation policy, but because of the country's close ties with Indonesia, Riyadh had suggested direct talks to explore the options.
About half a million Indonesians travel to Saudi Arabia every year, for work or pilgrimage.
The country's national carrier, Garuda - the only Indonesian airline to fly to the country - says it is currently in peak season and is expanding its flights to the Saudi state.
No Indonesian airlines currently fly to Europe but the EU ban has already led some European tourists to cancel planned trips to Indonesia, and there are concerns that a widening of the ban could damage the country's image.
It is an outrage that the flying imams are still getting away with suing the airline. That is a direct attack on U.S. airline security, the U.S. economy, and U.S. national security. The imams are using the courts on behalf of the same people who brought down the four planes on 9/11. The flying imams thinly veil their attack on the United States trasnportation system by a pretext that they seek only their legitimate rights. But what they want is to be superior in rights to the rest of us. The Al Quaeda Reader that has just been published shows what's going on here: jihadists will say one thing to manipulate the West, and say something very different to themselves and to Muslims. I'll bet a Guiliani justice system would by now have found a legal and constitutional way to make these imams' lives a legal hellhole -- or would have stopped them cold in their efforts at legal jihad, and made them regret they ever began on that road. Just as he found ways to beat hell out of the mafia in NYC.
Having a separate Airline will only serve their purpose. These are the type of reactions they want from you. They will further ask for everything separate for them only. They will ask for separate defence forces also for themselves out of your defence services. Then demand a separate Nation out of USA and make another Pakistan out of USA itself. Thats how Pakistan was created out of India. They are not so innocent. They ( Muslims ) are crooks . This is one of the methods they have their mind. West/USA has to be very careful . Its definitely a Muslim and Non Muslim issue. Islam cannot be reformed. It has to be finished like the 'Cold War' and to be executed shrewdly. Theres no other way if Humanity and Nature has to survive.
Of course, an alternative would be to have a concession stand at every boarding gate where infidel passengers could buy a jar of liguified pigs fat to take on the flight with them.
This shouldn't offend Muslim passengers because it would be strickly voluntary.
But any would-be suicide bombers would reasonably assume that if they detonated an explosive device, they're going to be splattered from head to toe before the plane hits the ground.
If airlines won't agree to a concession at the boarding gate, sell the product at the entrance to airport property.
call the product "jihad repellent."
I am surprised that no one has seen the most obvious reason this will not work...muslim airlines with muslim pilots...but who will land the plane? Their training involves flying, but stops short of landing, unless there is a tall building to aim at...
Of course, the planes of Jihad Air should face Mecca during the entire flight.
"Share the expense, and the pain -- and that way the full and sinister nature of what is being attempted will be more widely understood and publicized" -from above
The expense and pain should be shared at the source, I believe. Why not tax those in-bound flights to the US from the national air carriers of Islamic countries?
First they have to figure out how to make the planes crescent-shaped.
The B-2 stealth bomber is as close as we've come to such a design in the infidel world, so they can just steal that, as they have stolen all kaffir technology since they drove out their semi-scientific and somewhat-rational thinkers in the Middle Ages.
Air Aisha?
(Since all Muslims belong in some kind of A.A.)
Right. Now we need all-Islamic Airlines in the United States!
That way Islamia can be sure to transport into America nuclear bombs and other weapons of mass destruction as cargo onboard these Muslim-only jetliners for use in carrying out Islam's "death to America" strategies without the FAA's or the American public's knowledge.
Exactly what we needed.
I'll tell ya, if I owned an airline I'd seriously consider switching pork rinds in for the peanuts; you'd sure be able to speed your customers through the checkin. Anyway, there's no law prohibiting the existing airlines from refusing service to anyone they want; look at El Al...I've flown El Al, they just look you in the eye real hard for about ten seconds and say "go ahead."
Think the Dubai gov't could figure out if you were Jewish that fast, to keep you out of their country? (Maybe they'd learn, if Jews ever started blowing things up in Dubai...hey, there's a f*ckin idea...)
"Why not tax those in-bound flights to the US from the national air carriers of Islamic countries?
Posted by: Chatillon "
...why not ban them altogether....
walterc
Jews have no problem sitting on pigskin. Inspired Idea all airline seats to be made from pig skin. I even liked the Jihad repellant idea.
So as not to offend the Muslim traveller, because we should not punish the 90% innocent lawabiding Muslims because of the 10% rabid Muslims, we could have special cloth seat coverings for them. The fact that pigskin would be flying freely if G-d Forbid a bomb went of on the plane should be enough of a deterrent for the Allah fearing Muslim freedom fighter.
Hugh, I find your proposal for a "Muslims-only" airline, to be rather shocking. Couldn't such a proposal be considered accomodating, appeasing or capitulating to constant muslim demands to be treated "special"?
I believe Kash225 is correct, a "muslims-only" airline would be interpretted by muslims as a battle won, and a stepping stone to further demands.
"But here there is a question of money. Who should pay the costs of defending such a lawsuit?"
Maybe someone should set up an anti-jihad legal defense fund of some sort, a non-profit organization that would provide legal aid to victims of jihad litigation.
"Maybe someone should set up an anti-jihad legal defense fund of some sort, a non-profit organization that would provide legal aid to victims of jihad litigation.
Posted by: trojo "
...maybe someone should ban muslim immigration...
"Izlami-na-phenobia"Airlines for moslems only.
see: www.danielpipes.org/commemts/52557
"Izlami-na-phenobia"Airlines for moslems only.
see: www.danielpipes.org/commemts/52557
"Izlami-na-phenobia"Airlines for moslems only.
see: www.danielpipes.org/commemts/52557
"Izlami-na-phenobia"Airlines for moslems only.
see: www.danielpipes.org/commemts/52557