Make no mistake: this is not just an expression of piety. It is a political statement, a statement of Islamic supremacism, and of the will to wage war until Islamic Sharia is imposed over the whole world. "President: Rule of Islam only way for salvation of mankind," from the Islamic Republic News Agency (thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist):
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings."There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind," said Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Afghan Sunni and Shiite ulama at Iranian Embassy in Kabul.
President Ahmadinejad said nations are today distancing themselves from culture of materialism and selfishness and look for a new way for their prosperity, that is the path of Islam.
He said that the world is on verge of a great upheaval and ulama at this juncture shoulder a heavy responsibility that is introducing genuine Islam as it is.
"Nations today have no haven but religion," the Iranian president announced, cautioning Muslim nations against enemies' divisive plots.
He said, "All of us have the duty to resist the enemy by closing our ranks."
He said that the Iranian nation today feels more than ever the need to stand beside the Afghan nation."The Islamic Republic of Iran has kindly received their Afghan brothers and will continue to do so in future. Minor issues will cannot affect Iran's policies on Afghanistan," he added.
The president said Islam belongs to all generations and Muslims should get ready for global mission of Islam.
Imagine if it was Bush saying this about Christian rule what the reaction would be.
another example of the double standards placed on Christianity and the West.
"There is no truth on earth but monotheism"
I think monkey-man meant to say "moon theism"
Ladies and Gents
Islam is not monotheistic!
Islam is henotheistic!
alla-cadabra is a moon god!
How do we know that the moon god is superior to the sun god? Simple. His perch is closer to earth!
Looks like they're winning. The nutroots pretend no threat exists, and the Eurabians are already submissive and encourage the Muhammedan takeover with every day:
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/08/14/swiss-support-anti-islam-demo-in-brussels/
"Minor issues will cannot affect Iran's policies on Afghanistan," -- from above
What would those "minor issues" be? The 1300 year-old feud between Shia and Sunni?
Perhaps the Afghanis would be interested in learning how Iran supports the Shias in Iraq. Perhaps Mr. Ahmadinejad would like to provide an explanation of that support to his "brothers" in Afghanistan.
This by now all-too-familiar two-facedness can and should be exploited. However, for those who for many good reasons advocate a speedy withdrawal of Western forces from Iraq (Good-by and thanks for all the fish?), it might be worthwhile to consider what might happen if the Shia and Sunni did, by some miracle of shared malevolence, make common cause against the West, however temporarily. As a precaution against this, a Western presence in Kurdish or Assyrian regions would be the first step in a containment the jihadi pandemic, until such time as a cure is found.
They stand by their Afghan brothers? Were they not recently deporting them back by the thousands with much human suffering?
Islam is the way to prosperity? Where? What Islamic nation has yielded prosperity for its people, except for a handful of oil sheiks?
Nations today have no haven but religion? Not his religion of death, that's for sure, nor his killer jihad. We already have religious freedom in the world, except for Islam.
Does anybody still listen to this guy? He's so out to lunch I'm surprised Iranians hadn't lynched him. What an idiot.
But he is right, his nation is on the verge of a great upheaval. And his stupidly narcissistic megalomania will be first to fall.
Ahmmadinnijad spoke of nations having a "new way for their prosperity." What a lie! Without oil, the Arabs and Persians would be sitting in their own excrement.
Salvation? When mohammed rewrote the Torah, he removed references God made promising a messiah.
Christians recognize Jesus, and Jews await a messiah, but in islam there is no savior--only allah and his final prophet, mohammed.
islam is not a redemptive faith.
If more Christians understood their faith, they would be outraged at what islam stands for. And if more atheists or irreligious just examined islam using the filter of logic, they would see it as the blood cult of control and damning domination it is.
Jesus is the Muslim messiah. Jesus will come back, break the cross and make war with the infidels.
So when a Muslim tells you Islam has great respect for Jesus, this is why.
Is "Homeland Security" listening ?
Are the beltway whores listening ?
Are the Dems listening ?
Can anyone look into the face of a Saudi "royal" and not recognize the attempt to impose an inferior religion upon us ?
Shi sunni sufi or whatever - its the same old supremicism crap.
The monkey saying it is just the latest manifestation.
I find his honesty very refreshing.
Greetings:
We're from the Prophet, and we are hear to help.
I think this Islamic thug will be very disappoint in the end.
As for me and my family, we'll trust in the crucified Jew from Nazareth, not some so called prophet who had a sword in one hand and the hand of his 9 year old wife in the other.
Indeed, Christians need much more education on what Islamic doctrine teaches. Islam denies the cross and therefore it will always fall into horrific violence. If the ultimate expression of God's power is dying on the cross, then this is the test of all human power. Human power rightly expressed is redemptive, not punitive. The goal of politics is therefore seen in the flowering of human freedom and dignity, not submission to a worldly religion.
Lastly, if God is God, why does God need an army of Islam to subjugate humanity under God's rule? If the truth is the truth it will set you free, not enslave you under an Islamic theocracy. No, it is not the God of Abraham, Moses, and the Church, which they worship, but something else. Either the ideals of Arab culture as an idol or Satan hiding behind the name of Allah.
I heard today on Boortz that the National Health Service in the U.K. is asking its employees not to eat lunch at their desks during Ramadan so as not to offend muslims. Will this become yet another sacrifice forced upon indigenous British citizens to appease muslims? I certainly hope not. Will it eventually become illegal to eat in a public place during Ramadan? Maybe it's just me, but it sure seems like the Brits are willing to sacrifice almost anything to make muslims happy, yet muslims are never happy.
Elric66
Is this in the quran? Jesus is the savior of all mankind, even the mohammedans who have relegated Him to the role of mohammed's herald.
I stand with Dante on the whereabouts of mohammed: hell.
I have to admit I agree with Ahmanutjob when he said, "All of us have the duty to resist the enemy by closing our ranks."
We do and the enemy is Islam.
They want a fight? I say we give it to them with the goal of ending this fight once and for all. I do not want my children or grandchildren to have to fight this same battle again.
I have no problem living peacefully with Muslims but if they are going to try to force me to live under the rule of Islam then I will fight back.
Long live the Anti-Jihad!
I think the Brits should sit at their desks eating pepperoni pizzas during Ramadan, or a slab of ribs.
Can anyone in Britain answer these questions regarding the UK's NHS request that non-Muslims refrain from eating at their desk during Ramadan?
Does that include coffee or water?
Do Brits also ban pork from the workplace? Are bacon and eggs a no-no? Will they next ask that other Brits refrain from eating altogether between sunup and sundown?
Why isn't it a further show of strength for Muslims to refrain from eating while others around them are?
How many Muslims work in restaurants in Britain? Do they refuse to work where food is served?
When was the last time anyone spoke to Muslims about the offense they cause those who have welcomed them into their homes and workplaces?
Capitalist, its in the Hadiths I believe.
http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Intro/islamic_jesus.html
If "rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings", that leaves just one question: Sunni or Shia?
Elricc66--Thanks for the link.
I am surprised to learn that John the Baptist was a muslim. I guess that explains why so many muslims are baptized--with FIRE, of course.
Loved the part about how Jews and Christians "corrupted" the scriptures. Especially considering how they predate islam by thousands (old testament) and hundreds (new testament) of years.
The president said Islam belongs to all generations and Muslims should get ready for global mission of Islam. (from Thug in Chief)
So, too, should all generations of Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and those of no religion should band together to fight this "mission of Islam". International protests against this supremacist ideology is a start. Researching ancestral, spiritual nourishment, such as Christianity and those involved in the Crusades is another. This pig is a perfect example that talk will accomplish nothing.
Islam will never darken my door. Islam be gone!
No problem. I am always happy to share knowledge with fellow kaffirs. :-)
Now you know why Muslims "respect" Jesus. If you delve deeper, you find that the Mahdi has an eerie resemblence to the Christian anti-Christ.
No problem. I am always happy to share knowledge with fellow kaffirs. :-)
Now you know why Muslims "respect" Jesus. If you delve deeper, you find that the Mahdi has an eerie resemblence to the Christian anti-Christ.
"All of us have the duty to resist the enemy by closing our ranks."
That's the only sensible thing that President Chimpy has ever said.
As for the "global vision of Islam" I bet it's going to be headed by the mahdi right? The one that was supposed to be here in April?
"Islam belongs to all generations" said the babbling baboon.
I pray to the real Almighty that ours will be the very last to have to deal with this hideous cult.
"All of us have the duty to resist the enemy by closing our ranks."
That's the only sensible thing that President Chimpy has ever said.
As for the "global vision of Islam" I bet it's going to be headed by the mahdi right? The one that was supposed to be here in April?
Elrich66 - I'm glad that you made mention of how the 12th imam resembles the antichrist. He will also rule for a period of 7 years (the tribulation). Islam is the handmaiden of satan, the greatest liar/spin doctor. The Koran starts out with very good tenements and edicts then quickly turns perverse. Just like sin, it's all fun and good at first but once your hooked it's black, ugly and evil. Satan can't create anything himself and wants the place of Jesus, so he models everything he does after what Jesus has already accomplished and will accomplish in the future. He will take as many people down with him as he possible can. As Jesus said - you will know the TRUTH and the truth shall set you FREE!! So spread the good news to everyone - especially those deceived by satan, disguised as an angel of light.
"Urged by faith, we are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins . . . . Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff."--Boniface VIII, Unam sanctam (1302).
Allah is God? NOT!
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/08/14/swiss-support-anti-islam-demo-in-brussels/
The BIG LIE" is that Allah is the same God of the Jews and Christians.
A quick study of the bible and anyone can see it's a "The BIG LIE"
.
"Allah" of the Quran calls himself;
"Lord of the Worlds" and not once "Lord of Hosts".
"God" of the bible calls Himself;
"Lord of Hosts" and not once "Lord of the Worlds".
The bible tells you who "Lord of the Worlds" is.
Note the word "rulers" in
eph 6-12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the "Rulers" of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
In Strong's Greek for G2888
The word
"Rulers"=kosmokratōr-
Translation Count — Total: 1
1) Lord of the world, prince of this age
a) The devil and his demons
That is who "Allah" "Lord of the Worlds" is..The devil and his demons.
Now look in the Bible; 485 times
Jehovah is called "The LORD of hosts'..
One example;
2Sa 7:26
And let thy name be magnified forever, saying, The LORD of hosts [is] the God over Israel: and let
The house of thy servant David be established before thee
Strong's H6635
Translation Count — Total: 485
The word
"Hosts"=tsaba'= Hebrew for
1) That which goes forth, army, war, warfare, host
a) Army, host
1) Host (of organized army)
2) host (of angels)
3) Of sun, moon, and stars
4) Of whole creation
b) War, warfare, service, go out to war
c) Service
Even the names of God you don't see
"Lord of the Worlds".
El Shaddai (Lord God Almighty)
El Elyon (The Most High God)
Adonai (Lord, Master)
Yahweh (Lord, Jehovah)
Jehovah Nissi (The Lord My Banner)
Jehovah-Raah (The Lord My Shepherd)
Jehovah Rapha (The Lord That Heals)
Jehovah Shammah (The Lord Is There)
Jehovah Tsidkenu (The Lord Our Righteousness)
Jehovah Mekoddishkem (The Lord Who Sanctifies You)
El Olam (The Everlasting God)
Elohim (God)
Qanna (Jealous)
Jehovah Jireh (The Lord Will Provide)
Jehovah Shalom (The Lord Is Peace)
Jehovah Sabaoth (The Lord of Hosts)
Not to get so religious here, but this is very important to know.
Once you believe "the BIG LIE" your lost.
Better to believe in no god then Allah as "God".
The salvation of mankind will be assured when the plague known as islam is defeated by the new Crusades.
"there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind"
-- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the article above
It will be amusing to see how pundits and politicians will either ignore this statement ignored, or wilfully misinterpret its plain meaning.
"there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind"
-- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the article above
It will be amusing to see how pundits and politicians will either ignore this statement or wilfully misinterpret its plain meaning.
Dear Amanutjob, show the kafir world proof that Allah is 100% the real deal - not useless "evidence" from a useless book - and we'll aim our asses away from Mecca and start bouncing our heads on the floor with the rest of the Muslim world.
Show me proof that Allah exists and I'll offer my own head as a door prize. Until then, it's all a bunch of mythological crap from an impotent culture. Without proof of Allahs existence, I will reject to the death my right to personal freedom, high speed copper trumps the storybook Qur'an any day of the week.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4PJQD9FFKl0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dbODywI1t-I
FYI: CAIR - feel free to quote ME and not RS - shove your defamation and lies up your own arses.
A quick re-post. I'm one coffee cup short today:
Without proof of Allahs existence, I will reject [Islam, Shariah and Allah] to the death [and protect] my right to personal freedom, high speed copper trumps the storybook Qur'an any day of the week.
Quote me on this too "Dougie".
A quick re-post. I'm one coffee cup short today:
Without proof of Allahs existence, I will reject [Islam, Shariah and Allah] to the death [and protect] my right to personal freedom, high speed copper trumps the storybook Qur'an any day of the week.
Quote me on this too "Dougie".
If you are not prepared to take up arms and defend your freedom...be prepared to lose it.
More chlorine for the gene pool please....
"There is no truth on earth but monotheism and following tenets of Islam and there is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind," said Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Afghan Sunni and Shiite ulama at Iranian Embassy in Kabul."
?
Were the bobblehead Afghan Sunni and Shia ulama shaking their heads north or south... or east to west, while thug-in-chief was leading the pep rally?
I fully expect to see most people in the MSM and entertainment industry come right out and endorse Pres. Tom's plan for Islam to save the world. It's odd, though, when you look at countries that have been "saved" by Islam...you usually don't see any place that a thinking person would want to live.
The Savior of the world offered Himself up as a sacrifice on calvary about 2000 years ago. He lives today and stands with open, loving, arms waiting for the lost people of the world to look up and accept the gift of salvations that He freely offers.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Tuesday that rule of Islam on mankind is the only way for salvation of human beings."
Take a look at glorious Iran under Muhammadanism:
http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/231238.php
Ynkedoodl2:
Did you read these books yet?
Moon-O-Theism
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1411601068/
Matthew 24:
"Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.
"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come."
To United States citizen jihad watchers:
I'm looking for at least two people in every state of the Union who would be willing to purchase a copy of Robert Spencer's Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn't and mail it to one of the senators in your state. I'm organizing an effort to get the book simultaneously to all 100 senators, in order to send a strong message. If you are interested in being involved, please leave a comment at www.jihadawareness.blogspot.com. No need to leave your real name, but do say what state you live in. Once we have at least two people from every state, we can coordinate the mailing. If we get more than two people per state, we could send copies of the book to the House of Representatives as well.
Right before we do the mailing, we might issue a short press release to newspapers in every state, and in that way announce and briefly explain the mailing.
@Abrog8
Thanks! I just ordered it.
By the way, the Senate project has only just started today and we already have three participants.
Should we take Ahmadinejad's intentions seriously?
Yes!
Why? Because Ahmadinejad means them. These are his, the Iranian mullahs' and al Qaeda's intentions as well as those of all Muslims convinced that Islamic world domination is necessary and inevitable.
Never mind the differences betwen Sunni and Shi'ite Moslems. Concerning Islamic supremacism, both factions agree that it must be imposed on the world.
As Hitler did, Ahmadinejad openly declares his intentions. We should heed him and put a stop to the jihad against the non-Moslem world before it grows to less manageable proportions.
How do we do this? First of all, by stopping immigration of Islamics into non-Moslem countries. Second, by exposing organizations such as CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) as defenders and supporters of the jihad, and removing the legal protection that allows them to operate freely, albeit they are entity determined to supplant our Constitution with Islamic law.
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How come my post hasn't been posted, instead shown as "your comments are being reviewed"
The president said Islam belongs to all generations and Muslims should get ready for global mission of Islam.
President Iwannajihad has stated nothing new here, he's been spouting this for years. We just have to hope that one day the powers that be in Washington get the message that this guy needs to be taken out, and it should be sooner than later. For the life of me I don't understand what's taking so long?
Ynkedoodl2—
Fancy these brutal religious police bashing in the heads of the people who wear "Western" clothing, but look at what THEY THEMSELVES are wearing. Very contemporary riot cop garb.
A foul system, indeed.
Why are my posts not being published, instead "being reviewed" ???
I read somewhere once that brand new posters must pass through the approval filter first. I believe patience is the requirement here. Hope this helps...
Notice the statement "There is no way for salvation of mankind but rule of Islam over mankind". People try to claim fundamentalist Christianity is of the same vein by paralleling this Islamic rhetoric.
Christianity does not believe at all "Christians must rule the world in order for salvation to be possible". That is only accomplished by a personal faith in Jesus alone and Jesus is the one who comes to rule and reign of His accord, by His own power & authority...not Christians administering it without Jesus Himself literally being here in all His power & glory as King of kings and Lord of lords.
Bible prophecy leaves no wiggle room for a group of believers to create of Government of their own doing and reigning through military power to be called the Millennial reign of Christ.
If being ruled by Islam is the path to "salvation", I strongly request to be left to my own damnation, thank you very much.
One ring to rule them all...
One thing is fershizzle -- the Muzzle in Irizzle doesn't beazzle around the buzzle. He sezzles what he meazzles, and meazzles what he sezzles.
Or would that be Irazzle?
Is there anyone on JW who has the ability to forward this screed by Dinnerjacket to Brian Kilmeade and Lauren Green of Fox News ( who, by the way, I thought did a very commendable interview with RS on Fox and Friends this AM)?
Gabriel_the_American,
I've been posting on this site for a couple of years now at least!
Assalamau Laikum all,
While I am no fan of the nutjob...I can confirm the truth of the message he is saying.
Islam sets out the nature of relationship between man, between race and nation, based on the concept of love for peace and harmony, not for enmity and hostility. Islam has shown this by absorbing so many peoples of a different religion into Islam...it is very good at this.
This can clearly be seen from Muhd. s.a.w, who without doubt is a blessing to mankind, so that we may ALL succeed in this world and in the hereafter, as stated in the Quran:
And We have sent you (O Muhammad) as a mercy for the ‘Aamin (mankind, jinn and all that exists).
See also Allah’s command in Surah Al-Maidah : 2
"And help you one another in righteousness and piety. But do not help one another in sin and transgression.
Islam's goodness is not only limited to Muslims, but it covers the entire mankind in matters that bring virtue to us all, especially in multi-racial Ameriki where we Muslims live side by side with various ethnic and religious groups. This is to be encouraged in muslim lands too be encouraging the kaffur to settle in our lands.
In the Ameriki Islam encourages Muslims to avoid from instilling hostility and negative misunderstandings among man. Allah s.w.t says in Surah Al-Anfaal: 25:
“And fear the fitnah (affliction and trial) which affects not in particular (only) those of you who do wrong (but it may afflict all the good and the bad people).”
Helping each other in beneficial matters among Muslims and non Muslims is not something new in Islam.
It has existed since Rasulullah’s time, even when the Muslims were in Madinah, they lived in a society made of various races and religions..... And this included the Jewish community.
In order to ensure religious and racial harmony, Muhd s.a.w as the leader of the city had introduced a treaty between the occupants of Madinah, including the non-Muslims, a treaty which is known as the Treaty of Madinah.
Among the terms stated in the treaty was that each Madinah citizen must maintain close cordial relationships among themselves, regardless of religion or heritage. They must advise each other in promoting goodness and forbidding evil.
Disappointingly, we see in modern times it is the kaffur who wants to malign and misinterept Islam....but we can get past this ...we can become harmonius as a common man. Some examples are:
Let all men sport beards with moustache shaved.
Let the kaffur be encouraged to attend mosques and take the sahada.
Every kaffur man should recieve $100 upon conversion as a reward while every Kaffaria should recieve $250 and a jilbab. A free tailoring service should be provided at every mosque to ensure proper fitting.
Islam has so much to give....give yourselves a chance ...save yourselves...Allah SWT awaits you O Kaffur.
I've fixed some of Naseem's post:
Islam sets out the nature of relationship between man, between race and nation, based on the concept of hate, envy, and competition. Islam has shown this by killing so many peoples of a different religions and forcing them into Islam...it is very good at this.
This can clearly be seen from the fiend Muhammad (off with your head) who without doubt is a curse to mankind, so that we may ALL fail in this world and end up in hell with Allah and Mo.
Naseem
Hey Diddle Infidel, Mohammad got fickle
and dreaming floated west over the Moon
Q'od never saw Mo..Qu'ran don't know Q'od
and God doesn't know Allah or Mo.
"...while every Kaffaria should recieve $250 and a jilbab."
Thanks so much Naseem, for your considerate gift. The $250 will come in handy for the pig pickin' picnic I plan to throw for everyone at my church. And of course, the Hefty bag will be very useful when it comes to clean-up afterwards.
BTW, I'm off to the beach in two weeks...want to come with? I'll treat you to a pedicure and a nice kaffur margarita. Give yourself a chance...we can become harmonious.
Never mind the differences betwen Sunni and Shi'ite Moslems. Concerning Islamic supremacism, both factions agree that it must be imposed on the world.
unicorns62000,
As true as this statement is, which one will rule once we have been defeated? Throughout history ideological foes joined to defeat their common enemy and then immediately began fighting one another for power. Why wouldn't this be the same with Islam? There's more than one Islam. Don't the Sunnis view the Shia as heretics? How can Shia ever be allowed to rule over a Sunni populace? Would Iranians accept Sunni rule? Would devout Sunni Muslims in America accept a Shia leader?
Suppose we convert. Whose prize are we? Sunni or Shia?
It's a zero-sum game.
"Tenets of Islam"
"Rule of Islam"
"Global mission of Islam"
Gee.. I wonder what that means, Mr. Monkey face..do you mean;
Forced conversions?
Allah forbid! And be no booty for the beast?
Need dem’ dhimmies’
Dear Naseem,
If you continue believing as you do, nothing awaits you but eternity in hell.
The false prophet Mohammed twisted and perverted the the Word of God for his own purpose. The teachings and example set by Mohammed have caused nothing but suffering, oppression, death, and destruction throughout the last 1200 years. Nothing will change until you throw off the chains of slavery that bind you and the blinders that cover your eyes.
Jesus Christ (All Praise, and Glory, and Honor to Him alone!!) is the way, the truth and the life. NO ONE shall enter into the kingdom of heaven except by accepting His redeeming grace and mercy. He made the blind to see- and He can do the same for you.
The way to Him is clearly laid out for you:
Admit you are a sinner. Nothing you can do on your own can save you. You can never be good enough- you are saved only by faith. Even as a new born baby you and I are filty sinners- but Jesus can fix all that.
Ask Jesus to come into your life. Allow His blood to wash away your sins and make you clean again.
The beating He took; the horrible death on the cross; all of His suffering was for you Naseem! He gave His life for you and for me- the ultimate sacrifice, just as the prophets had said it would happen. The Lamb of God was slain for the sins of the world.
I and many others have spoken the truth to you now and before. If you ask Jesus into your heart, He will gladly come. He stands and the door and knocks, quietly waiting for you to open the door and allow Him to enter your life.
Don't wait! Let Jesus change you life right now. There's no special time or place or direction you need to pray. Just have a little talk with Jesus, and let Him change your life.
Ynkedoodl2 - hear, hear.
To back up your statement I will give the story of a Kurdish man who, reared in a Muslim family, converted to Christianity after having translated the New Testament into Kurdish. I have posted it on other occasions but for the benefit of new visitors and posters at this site, I include it here.
"As he (the translator) became immersed in reading and translating the New Testament, he found that he was being deeply affected by it.
He discovered that Christianity’s culture was quite different from that of Islam. Certain Bible teachings highlighted the differences strikingly. “It totally changed me to deal with how you are taught to forgive people, to love people and live with them in peace. The Bible says ‘Love your enemies and your neighbours’ and ‘Treat your neighbour as you would like to be treated.’ This affected me.”
From then on, while still a Kurdish intellectual, “In my heart,” he says, “I believed in Jesus.”
“When I recognised the Bible, I learned to be flexible… to listen to people… to forgive them… and to be more patient. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE AMONG MUSLIMS, YOU WOULD ALWAYS FIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT. ; I always wanted to convince people, to argue with them. … to understand them.”
The year after he became a translator he undertook a short course in Christian theology. Since giving his life to Jesus Christ, he has been a vocal advocate of the Christian faith.
“I have spoken with hundreds – maybe thousands – of people on the issue of being Christians and Muslims,” he says. “And I am always supporting the totally different Christian culture."
And then, of course, over in dhimmiwatch on 11/8/07, we had the similar testimony of an Egyptian Muslim apostate to Christianity, Mr Mohammed Hegazy: "I started readings and comparative studies in religion," he said, "I found that I am not consistent with Islam teachings. THE MAJOR ISSUE FOR ME WAS LOVE. ISLAM WASN'T PROMOTING LOVE AS CHRISTIANITY DID". Mr Hegazy has suffered torture at Muslim hands, because of his newfound faith - but even torture hasn't shifted him.
So: here we have two former Muslims who state very clearly that Islam - the religion in which they were reared - is UNloving, whereas Christianity, the faith to which they have joyfully converted, is a religion of love.
Naseem - why not follow the example of Mr Hegazy? Come on: pick up a New Testament and find out what it is that is so appealing, so soul-satisfying, that a man will suffer torture rather than give it up.
"Let the kaffur be encouraged to attend mosques and take the sahada.
Posted by: Naseem "
Before visiting a mosque, please google the phrase "taqiyya and tu-quoque" and arm yourself with knowledge. Be prepared to ask -- sweetly, in an Infidel-Wants-to-Know Mode -- about Muhammad's marriage to Aisha when she was nine, about the assassinations of Asma bint Marwan and others, about the massacre of the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khaybar oasis, about the decapitation of 600-900 helpless prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, and about so much more. Be sure to mention the Hadith.
Do not let the presentation to those Infidels (hmmm, doesn't that spicy chicken and that pita, and then the honeyed dessert, all waiting for us afterwards, smell good, I can't keep my mind off it, how nice these people are, what good hearts they have to invite us in to share their food and their faith) be allowed to finish without making the most that you possibly can out of that "question time." And bear in mind that you will only be called on once, so you had better have your questions ready -- not really to be answered, but so that they can provoke thought and unease in your fellow Infidels who have come, unlike you, without any mental weapons whatsoever.
Ask about the relevance of what Muhammad did and said for today's Muslims. Ask why he is called in the Qur'an "uswa hasana" and in Islamic tradition "al-insan al-kamil"? If told such things as Muhammad's marriage to Aisha must be "put in the context of their times," don't forget to ask why virtually the first act of Khomeini in Iran was to lower the marriageable age of girls to nine.
Oh, and ask about the concept of the "Dhimmi." Ask what was required of Christians and Jews as non-Muslims under Muslim rule. What did they have to do, in order to remain alive, as "Protected People," rather than dead, as Unprotected People, or to prevent their being forcibly converted -- as opposed to the slow conversion, over time, which was usually the only way open to them to escape the onerous, sometimes unendurable situation of being a dhimmi.
And afterwards, when the talk and question time have come to an end, and when other Infidels come up to you, quietly, to thank you for speaking up and speaking out, and expressing their own inarticulate unease, tell them a few of the books you have read. Tell them about Bat Ye’or, Ibn Warraq, Spencer and Bostom. Tell them of this and other websites (www.faithfreedom.org, www.dhimmitude.org, www.answering-islam.org, for a start). Agree to take their names and phone numbers or emails, and to send them a further list so that they, too, will not merely rely on the nonsense and lies fed to them by the soft-voiced propagandists.
Be sure, that evening, to count how often those propagandists mention something about "the three abrahamic faiths" and the "three monotheisms" that "have so much in common." See how often one of the Muslims present tries to use crocodile-sympathies to deplore the mistreatment of Jews by Christians, as opposed to what he will claim is the "tolerance" of Islam, and do agree with him on one point: that Islam manages to mistreat all non-Muslims.
See if there is any mention of Hindus, or perhaps bring with you to the evening a Hindu colleague of the completely unfoolable kind, so that his mere presence in the audience will unnerve the speaker and others. See if there is mention of the 60-70 million Hindus murdered under Muslim rule, and if not, point out that strange omission sometime during the evening.
Oh, and after that? When you all go to the room with the steaming table of that chicken (or lamb) and pita bread and that delicious baklavish dessert? Go right in, along with the other Infidels, mingling with the handful of Muslims in that mosque who agreed to come out that night and agreed to allow the defilement of their mosque by these Infidels, for it was all in a good cause: defending, shoring up, the Faith, until such time as it becomes strong enough here and in other Infidel lands, so that no more Mosque Outreach, no more phony politeness and sweet reason, will be needed with these Infidels.
Break the silence of the lambs. But not by bleating. By studying in advance just enough about Islam -- enough to make things hot that night in the mosque, and not only for that waiting chicken, that pita, that rice.
Posted by Hugh at August 17, 2006 7:18 A
"Islam has shown this by absorbing so many peoples of a different religion into Islam...it is very good at this.
Posted by: Naseem "
.....people will submit to many things when a gun is pointed at their head and their family members are tortured, raped, and killed....
Why doesn't someone put Mahmoud Ahmadinejad out of his misery. He should be assassinated...
So how is it, Naseem, that the non-Islamic, Quran-ignorant "Ameriki" has figured how to establish a peaceful multi-racial society....yet your Islamic, Quran-saturated Pakistan has not? Are you admitting kuffars who don't serve/love Allah, hence "don't know better", are somehow living your so-called Islamic virtues of diversity better than Muslims who are "supposed to know better"? Does it bother you that millions of kuffars around the world don't need Islam to live peacefully among different races and religions? And yet one never hears of your beloved Islamic Pakistan, a country founded on Islam, being the "beacon of multi-raceness" that so many (including you just now) hold up the kuffar "Ameriki" to be. How does that compute for someone who claims Islam to be the perfect way for all?
It's funny how you claim Islam embraces religious diversity on one hand....and with the other, you want to erase that very same diversity by wanting us all to abandon our faiths, sport beards, wear jilbab, and follow Islam. Do you see that contradiction?
"Every kaffur man should recieve $100 upon conversion as a reward while every Kaffaria should recieve $250 and a jilbab."
Now that's hilarious, Naseem. what the h--ll's wrong with you, anyway -- you're so desperate for "converts" you're resorting to bribery? That's so funny...
It reminds me of the Seinfeld episode -- The dentist, Whatley, converts to Judaism so he can make Jewish jokes. Ya figure bribery into Islam works, eh? Think those "converts" won't be making rude and obscene Mullah/Imam/Islam Moon Deity jokes?
Ahhh..dream on Naseem, dream on...
Naseem stated: "Islam has so much to give....give yourselves a chance ...save yourselves...Allah SWT awaits you O Kaffur."
Such lies. Islam does not give us anything, but it's designed to rob us of our freedoms, Naseem.
And the only "chance" we have of "saving ourselves" is by extinguishing Islam once and for all.
Go peddle your falsehoods somewhere else.
livefreeordie!,
The truth is that with the good news of the Gospel going out in the global south, even there are Muslims who are coming to faith in Christ.
Christianity does not believe at all "Christians must rule the world in order for salvation to be possible".
I don't know how you define "Christianity," but Pope Benedict, quoted above, is at least as authoritative a representative of Christianity as Ahmadinejad is of Islam. Indeed, the Pope's statement is part of the magisterium of the Church, which makes it even more authoritative than the comments of an Iranian layman, even one who has been elected president.
That's Pope *Boniface*, not Benedict. Sorry about that.
Isabellathecrusader, enjoy your vacation!
I don't know how you define "Christianity," but Pope Benedict, quoted above, is at least as authoritative a representative of Christianity as Ahmadinejad is of Islam.
--posted by Seamus
Shame on you Man! Catholicism is one school of Christianity. Christianity evolves and changes. The Bible was written by men. I'm a Christian. I could care less what that Pope said.
Read what Jesus said!
ISLAM IS THE ANTICHRIST MENTIONED IN THE BOOK OF REVALATIONS.
Thanks Infidel! ;)
You know, I've invited Naseem several times to go to the beach with me, which I think would be good for her, but she always blows me off. If she could catch a plane I would have no problem including her in the party. I usually go with a couple of girlfriends and have introduced many people to this cool little beach I know about. We could walk over to the coffee place in the morning, grab a breakfast sandwich and the newspaper or stop at the little bookstore next door and then go sit on a bench on the boardwalk and watch the dolphins swim by. We can go get our toes done, do a little shopping and then I will introduce her to the best crab place on the coast. She could see how normal we are and how we treat people, which would make her question her why she thinks Islam is so superior.
I'm pretty sure she thinks I'm mocking her, but I'm not. I'd be happy to have someone who really doesn't know about us come along for a relaxing beach break and enjoy good friends who just like to go read and chill, not do any of the things Muslims usually accuse us of doing.
Irrefutable proof that Islam is anti-Christ since it claims salvation comes by following Islam's rules.
More important proof is that it denies that Jesus died on the cross (claims a lookalike took his place).
Islam is one of many works-based religions that claims one can get to heaven by following that religions rules.
The bible however makes it clear that we were unable to be guiltless by following the Law and that it was necessary for Jesus to come for the very purpose of dying for the sins of the World.
If something is anti-Christ then it is of the devil.
Naseem is infected by a Great Delusion and folks, those who do not have a love of the Truth (Jesus Christ and His Word), will be suckered in. Actually, what's most scary is that the scriptures tell us that GOD will send THEM a delusion. Look it up.
Uh, folks.... if GOD sends it, they can FORGET outwitting it. They will be sucked right in....but it will be their own fault for rebelling against God instead of submitting to Him.
Here's the verses I was talking about.
2Th 2:9 whose coming is according to the working of Satan in all power and signs and wonders of falsehood,
2Th 2:10 and in all deceit of unrighteousness to them that perish, because they have not RECEIVED the love of the truth that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this reason GOD SENDS to them a working of error (a delusion), that they should believe what is false,
2Th 2:12 that ALL might be judged who have not believed the truth, but have found pleasure in unrighteousness.
Who wants to join the Cuba of religions? This is a religion that people will risk their life to be free of, and no PR job in the world can change that. The word is out, and truth is the biggest obstacle for islam.
Is nASSeem really Dennis Kucinich? Korey Sayler? or maybe ARSElan Iftikarrz?
So a thieving pedophile makes claims about knowing The Mind of God ("Allah") and these morons still believe it? Unquestioningly.
How can anyone respect this gullible gang?
Or their vicious screed?
profit, aren't you assuming that they are interested in "truth?" I don't believe they care one whit about truth. Truth is irrelevant. They believe so many crazy things -- things no 7 year old would believe -- like that flyin' critter -- "the buraq" -- the creature with the wings and the body of a mule, and the face of a woman -- it's like Freud's subconscious -- there's no everyday, work-a-day, world of 'reality' -- doesn't exist. Instead you get Jinns, angels, flying buraqs, and a black rock (with eyes and mouth) to be resurrected -- nonsensical collections of superstitions -- that's Islam.
Hey everyone, I saw a couple of comments that referred to Akminidijad as a monkey man.
Please stop this immediately, it's upsetting the monkeys.
This num-num could be eating a roasted baby on a stick and wearing devil horns and the media would just yawn.
Set aside who defines what and who did what or said what. Look at the apparent facts, the undeniable facts.
Islam has always been based upon based upon sex discrimination, and nothing more. Bullshit sex abuse, snivelking men who bear no regard for their women. That's self-hatred.
Anybody wanna bring up a high ideal raised by the Moslem men over the last 1400 yrs.? Ain't any. These scoundrels draw a blank on the moral horizon. Barren they are.
Civiliations have always been, and will always be, predicated on how the stronger, the men, treat their women. Look down through the annals and there you see it. Women love peace, however naively so. The Hindus have struggled on this account, and so have the Buddhists.
JudeoChristianity loves peace, because it loves its women first and foremost. Family.
Islam has always been about sex abuse and will forever be until this awful and worthless piece of crap is eradicated from the face of the Earth. On Arabs, from the stark face of the desert, the emaciated face of mankind. No land, no soil, no water, no civilization.
A civilization cannot and must not succeed until it treats it women well.
Half of what? So what is what? Let's face it, their are racial boundaries around women, and JudeoCrhistians don't have a damned thing to apologize for. Hindus, Buddhists, Aboriginals, follow in our path.
Who are you? What are you? Do you believe in the other half?
If you don't, screw off. Islam will be smashed by the other half. Women won't call for the showdown fight, we civilized men will.
But once it's called, these snivelving "holier thant thou" sexists will be destroyed.
Civilization has always been constructed around women. They are the font. No font, no propagation.
I love women. I love America. I love JudeoCrhistianity. No Hindu or Buddhist ever had the guts to turn there women loose, but we did, and they'll stay free. If you don't like that, fuck off.
The chips are down now; we'll win. Fuck all sexists. Praise women. This is the key. They are the key. They are the other half.
Naseem-
Thanks for the offer, but no. I cannot, will not, accept Islam.
In my opinion, Islam is irredeemably evil. The "Allah" worshipped by Muslims is evil. The man, Mohammed, who "revealed" the Koran was a megalomaniac, or worse.
Look up the topic "malignant narcissism" which well describes Islam and its adherents:
http://www.pkblogs.com/drsanity/2006/07/malignant-narcissism-sociopathic.html
http://www.narcissism.operationdoubles.com/ http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/malignant_narcissism.html
There is no way on this green earth that I would EVER consider turning to Islam. EVER. Under ANY conditions. Even a gun to my head. NEVER.
Hmmm...reminds me of another thug-in-chief we needed to deal with decades ago...
"Today, Germany! Tomorrow, the World!"
adolph hitler
Right out of Mein Kampf, as documented by David Horowitz.
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf/
Alarmed Pig Farmer,
I love you too, and thanks.
Isabella, what with all the biz and the money floating around, sometimes we men forget.
You look into the center of the universe, and who's there? Women. Girls. This is the centrality. Most women won't admit it to our faces. But all we guys have is fight and tactics. I'm Irish, I have money, and any cowardice I once had is happily gone.
We're counting on you. I'll fight, if you lead. Call the fight.
Isabella, what with all the biz and the money floating around, sometimes we men forget.
You look into the center of the universe, and who's there? Women. Girls. This is the centrality. Most women won't admit it to our faces. But all we guys have is fight and tactics. I'm Irish, I have money, and any cowardice I once had is happily gone.
We're counting on you. I'll fight, if you lead. Call the fight.
Isabella, what with all the biz and the money floating around, sometimes we men forget.
You look into the center of the universe, and who's there? Women. Girls. This is the centrality. Most women won't admit it to our faces. But all we guys have is fight and tactics. I'm Irish, I have money, and any cowardice I once had is happily gone.
We're counting on you. I'll fight, if you lead. Call the fight.
"Every kaffur man should recieve $100 upon conversion as a reward while every Kaffaria should recieve $250 and a jilbab."
Nazeem, Nazeem.. where will you get the dough? We are constantly sending money to the islamic countries because you dumbasses don't know how to take care of yourselves.
God sure had a sense of humor to put all the oil under SOWdi Barbaria and iran.. giving those least gifted spiritually and intellectually the greatest maqterial gift of all.. Trillions of dollars and Euros via the oil. Oil which they don't even pump themselves..
Idle hands idle minds... if ya know what I mean.
RE:ISLAM IS THE ANTICHRIST MENTIONED IN THE BOOK OF REVALATIONS.
Nowhere in the Book of Revelation (the Apocalypse)is the word "Anti-Christ" ever mentioned. It is mentioned in 1st and 2nd Epistles of John. In the epistles the anti-Christ is someone or a group that is anti-Christian. The Book of Revelation does mention a ruler or the "Beast". I believe Islam is the Beast mentioned in the Book of Revelation.
Ahmadinejad is an Islamic Nazi. Millions of Shia Muslims around the world support or sympathize with his interpretation of Islam; A duty and zeal to wage holy war / jihad, until Islamic Sharia is imposed over the whole world.
Bin Laden is an Islamic Nazi. Millions of Sunni Muslims around the world support or sympathize with his interpretation of Islam; A duty and zeal to wage holy war / jihad, until Islamic Sharia is imposed over the whole world.
This, my friends, is what we are up against; The two black rivers of Islam. Until millions of people of all other faiths (or no faith) join together to rise up to meet and resist this deadly challenge then we are losing. We all need to unite to defeat this ghoulish, medieval ideology that seeks to enslave us.
yadayada: It's funny how you claim Islam embraces religious diversity on one hand....and with the other, you want to erase that very same diversity by wanting us all to abandon our faiths, sport beards, wear jilbab, and follow Islam. Do you see that contradiction?
The term "contradiction" does not exist in Islam, and Moslems cannot understand it. It is useless to try to reason with Naseem, or any other Moslems, because they cannot understand the absurdities of their political Mohamedan belief system. They think, unthinkingly, that somehow what they believe, so childishly, we are supposed to believe it too. They simply cannot understand. So treat them like the children they are, mentally, except with their jihad they are murderous children, and largely brain dead as well.
Salvation my butt. They think that giving money, i.e., buying conversions, is somehow noble. We think it base and lame, proof how impoverished is their belief system, since they must bribe people to join. Anybody can have a price, supposedly, but they couldn't pay me enough $billions to join up in their absurd infantile regressively primitive irrational murderous cult of Mohammed. Sorry lot. Nasseem, do your da'wa elsewhere, we're not buyers here.
You may note how Nasseem is to ignorant to be insulted, which is interesting it itself.. brain dead.
And the cow jumped over the moon at the same time.....
Never listen to ANYTHING a Muslim says.
EVER.
Just be ready to open fire on these Killer-Zombie folk when the time comes (which it will).
Islam has shown this by absorbing so many peoples of a different religion into Islam...it is very good at this.
Posted by: Naseem
Yes, islam is very good at "absorbing" so many peoples, just like the the Blob absorbed them in the old fifties movie. The big, red blob absorbed everyone it touched and grew bigger and more deadly with each human being it consumed. It looked like a quivering mass of jello, but it had a singular mission---to destroy humanity. That's exactly what islam does, whether it kills people or "aborbs" them. Either way, they are brain dead.
Gee, don't Killer-Zombies say the darndest things??
Naseem:
Your 30 seconds are up!
It's time to go run back over to your Islamic cohorts in "religion" and KO another 'infidel' in the name of al-lah!!
Let us know what sort of weapon you used this time. OK?
I believe Islam is the Beast mentioned in the Book of Revelation.
I believe allah is The Beast and Muhammad is his False Prophet.
/new shahada
memo to The Resistance:
Islam's object of worship, 'al-lah', may very well prove to be the "Beast" mentioned in the Biblical Book of Revelations. (It eats people, so to speak--a very beastly occupation you may agree).
It is also highly probable that al-lah is the idol, "baal", of Babylonian infamy -- and "baal" is the source of the decidedly pejorative words "Beelzebub" and "cannibal".
I type fast and skip letters, but stand back Naseem, I take large steps.
Actually, I enjoy his/her infantile chatter, because it show how silly is the mind of Islam. Why should we really be threatened by it? It's a pushover, and watch, if they ever remove that 'death for apostasy' clause in their Koran, they'll shrink to nothing. If I were Moslem, I'd defect really fast, jump over The Wall, hide in the swamps, eat grass in the fields, anything better than living under such rigid, totalitarian, communistic, cultish oppression. My soul would die in it. Theirs already had. That's why we must never let Islam win, because it is death. "Join Islam and become brain dead like us", that should be their real da'wa, their real shadadah.
What's not to understand? It is a declaration of war against all non-muslims.
The plot thickens
We shall see, what we shall see.
What's not to understand? It is a declaration of war against all non-muslims.
The plot thickens
We shall see, what we shall see.
Referring to the comments about the converted Muslims earlier. I heard the testimony of a man who also was born and raised in Islam. Without getting into the details of who he came to Christ. He stated, "If you are a devout Muslim you will be a terrorist."
If you think about it it makes perfect sense. Most of the Muslims are like many church going westerners. They are just getting by and want to live a quite peaceful life. Religion is part of getting by. However there is a minority of people who are moved deeply by there faith. As a result the move out into the world believing that this is what God wants them to do.
DAMN hit the Post button!
Those who feel that God has called them go and do many things. The proof is in the results. There is a verse that says "...you shall know them by their fruits (work)..."
So if the results are a benefit to mankind like orphanages, hospitals, soup kitchens, relief and aid from natural disasters etc. If however the result is death, torture, falsehood, deception, enslavement, loss of freedom etc. Need I say any more?
Alarmed Pig Farmer,
Just like you, I know where my power lies. We need you men to stand up and say enough is enough.
I'm mainly doing this because I don't want my girls or my girls' girls to have to live like Naseem, no matter how much she tries to make it sound like a good idea. But also, I don't want the vacuum in my country created by getting rid of Christianity to be filled instead with Islam. You guys have got to stop focusing on how great life will be when Monday Night Football starts again and get down to the business of circling the wagons. We girls have got to get down to the business of having some more kids. But we men and women have to come together and sacrifice some of the stuff we'd like to do for the good of the family and the country to accomplish this. No more leaving because we think the grass will be greener on the other side. No more dumping this wife or that husband because it isn't fun anymore. We are going to lose our frickin' countries if we don't stand up to this, and NOW.
Okay, I'm calling it. If you will get the guys together and make the commitment to fight I will roll your bandages, refill your gun clips and bring you a beer on Sundays. I'm not ashamed to do those things because I appreciate you waking up and telling it like it is. I don't want to lose my country, especially to a bunch of back-ass-ward folks who don't deserve it.
And no more mealy mouthed whining about my rights. I know what my rights are and I've got so many they are coming out of my eyeballs. Rights are to be claimed, and I claim mine. If Naseem wants to throw hers away, let her suffer then. Hells bells, she won't even take me up on a free trip to a cool beach so there must just be something wrong with her. But I don't want what she's got to spread, so let's nip it in the bud now.
Consider the fight called.
The president said Islam belongs to all generations and Muslims should get ready for global mission of Islam.
Wake up, America...lock n' lode and be prepared. This global mission he speak of is about to happen. We have our military and we have our police force....but we have to arm ourselves and guard our land, homes and family.
Watch for the Asian Muslim in our land, watch for Black Muslim in our land and watch for sleeper cells...(Al Quada, Hamas, and Hezbollah). Watch the gangs who join the Islam and watch the prisons like a hawk...I am sure they planning on big breaks and all hell break lose at prisons.
And I get this gut feeling that Islam here will have "dog's" such as pit bull's on the prowl. Now, I know I may sound stupid....but I recall a photo of an African who was walking down a street with the most horrible looking dog and it stated, "We're coming to American Streets." I just kind of wonder if that hell hound I saw was going to be pit bull's???
The president said Islam belongs to all generations and Muslims should get ready for global mission of Islam.
Wake up, America...lock n' lode and be prepared. This global mission he speak of is about to happen. We have our military and we have our police force....but we have to arm ourselves and guard our land, homes and family.
Watch for the Asian Muslim in our land, watch for Black Muslim in our land and watch for sleeper cells...(Al Quada, Hamas, and Hezbollah). Watch the gangs who join the Islam and watch the prisons like a hawk...I am sure they planning on big breaks and all hell break lose at prisons.
And I get this gut feeling that Islam here will have "dog's" such as pit bull's on the prowl. Now, I know I may sound stupid....but I recall a photo of an African who was walking down a street with the most horrible looking dog and it stated, "We're coming to American Streets." I just kind of wonder if that hell hound I saw was going to be pit bull's???
I wonder how douggie hooper's going to spin THIS one, too?
Now that it's no secret of their intent...and his fraudulent and deceitful accusations against Robert Spencer have now been marginalized to oblivion?
What say you now, douggie?
LOL
Naseem says....
Islam sets out the nature of relationship between man, between race and nation, based on the concept of love for peace and harmony, not for enmity and hostility. Islam has shown this by absorbing so many peoples of a different religion into Islam...it is very good at this.
Dear Naseem....I have yet to see your religion of Islam be at peace and harmony. I have only seen hostility, death, brutal killings..like I have never seen. And who do you Muslims think you are to force a ungodly religion on other people. Take a step back...and look at yourself! What do you enjoy out of life? I don't beleive God made woman or man to be dominated like you women are in Islam world. My God is a loving God...and He is not allah. My God don't tell me to go "cut them at the throat". But Satans followers seem to thrive off of blood!!! So, there is a big difference in yout ideals and mines. I enjoy freedom and I dont have to wear sacks and diapers on my head to hide my (beauty) that God gave me. And this go for all the American ladies....they do not have to hide their beauty. We not ashamed of what we are cause God created us.
I guess you all are brainwashed in beleiving a bunch of malaki...well, if u like your religion and allah/Mohammed....Koran, then you go and live in Middle east so you can enjoy it all..and sweat underneath all those hot clothes. But leave America alone....Iranian leader and Islam don't want to step on this EAGLE's wings...or try to break it....for when she swoop's..she is coming in for a hell of a ride. And with God Almighty and His Holy Angels guiding us...you guys will fall!
I don't know you personally. but ,I give you one advice...change away from Islam and come to Jesus. He is the only way to God! And then you will have "peace" because He will send the Comforter.
Personally, I believe Americans should have no fear of what Iran says. Long before Ahmadinejad and Khomeni can export their ideals to the world, they must first control their own neighborhood. Inevitably, there would have to be a showdown with Israel. A no holds barred fight for existence. Israel's destruction is the only valid way in which Ahmadinejad could gain the respect of all the world's Muslims and give them the fortitude and unity to take on the world. I have no doubt that he will fail in this regard.
Isabellathecrusader,
I'm saying enough is enough!
One ring to rule them all...
Posted by: pr126 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 14, 2007 4:09 PM
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Sorry, folks, slightly OT, but otherwise somewhat relevant for the purpose of Islamic subjucation.
We have read here over the years many references to those Western intellects/religious potentates who have warned us of this problem with Islam.
Perhaps JRR Tolkien was on to something with his allegorical "The Lord of the Rings."
Let me finish pr126's quote:
"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them.
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."
Of course, all you Tolkien scholars will shout that he was basing this story on ancient Nordic foklore. (All true and verifiable, BTW.)
Tolkien probably had a knowledge of Islam (as a learned man), but there is no bias (of Islam) in his writings. (He was a professor of Anglo-Saxon language and literature.)
So now we have a perfect parallel. Sauron (Islam) vs. The West.
Let's do some math here.
The Undying Lands [The West, ie, The Valar) vs. Morgoth and his servant Sauron.
Thus:
Morgoth (the corrupted Valar)= al-ilah
Sauron (the obedient slave) = muhammed
And thus Sauron created the Rings of Power (the Qur'an). Then he proclaimed...
"..and in the darkness (Qur'an) bind them."
For all you non-Tolkien readers, the battle was won by destroying the single Ring of Power.
The Ring of Power, folks, is the Qur'an.
What sets us apart from all of those idiots in the Middle East, is, simply, we are literate. We can read the Qur'an and, heaven forbid, compare it to the millions of books in our LIBRARIES. This is a concept called COMPARATIVE LITERATURE at most of the respectable universities in the West (well, those who have not been bought off by Saudi Arabia, that is).
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Let's bring it all together, now:
1. JRRT was a "prophet". NO.
2. George Orwell was a prophet in "1984". YES
3. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad needs to pull his head out of his ass? YES.
Yup. Literature. The collective and total enemy of Islam.
The Truth.
(And, hey, "Mahmoud? How many books do you have there in your universities? Just wondering..")
Ya'll can do the rest of the math here.
Be Strong. And fight the Fight
Naseem
Don't they have any teaching jobs @ Jamiya Hafsa?
"...we Muslims live side by side with various ethnic and religious groups. This is to be encouraged in muslim lands too be encouraging the kaffur to settle in our lands....."
Posted by: Naseem
......sure...I see in Iran there are about 8 christians left standing, I see in Yemen there are about 200 Jews left Standing, I see in Iraq there are about 1500 Christians left standing, I in many Muslim countries that the Non Muslim populations have been decimated by Muslims, the Non Muslims have been evicted from their properites, the Non Muslims have been murdered, tortured, raped, forced to convert to Islam, I see in India, Indonesia, the Phillipines, Malaysa, and many other countries where the Muslims move in and the Non Muslims disappear, I see in Syria, Egypt, Gaza, Jordan, and even in Algeria where Non Muslim populations are fast approaching zero....I see in many western countries where Muslim are forcing and imposing Islam on their countries populations, just look at Italy, Spain, Germany , Netherlands, UK, Holland, Switzerland, and even Russia....as the Muslims take over the lands of free people, the Non Muslims are eliminated and the Non Muslims are not encouraged to settle there...
your comment is laughable and totally dishonest...as are most comments you make....
...a word to the wise...ban muslim immigration now....you do not want these people in your neighborhood...
Assalamau Laikum exsgtbrown,
My comments are written in good faith with excerpts from the Koran shariff. The Koran as we know cannot be wrong....My comments are written from a personal perspective...therefore not dishonest...but I can see your problem.....how do you verify what Naseem says....you just read JW...which never has anything good to say about Islam and muslims ...EVER...like no mention of Pak's independence day yesterday.
Well one way you could prove it from my perspective....is to quit the Amerike and move to Lahore as a neighbour and see for yourself. Will you get forced to become a muslim... I guarantee you will not. Inface you may become a bit of a celibrity...the peoples in Pak are in hunger of foreigner trade and settlers.
I cannot say the same for the North West Frontier...or places like Iraq or Palestine or Israel as these countries are naturally unstable.
The Koran as we know cannot be wrong....
Wrong.
You may believe whatever fictions you wish, but when a book is used to justify horrors against others, it is wrong. The proof is in the horrors. Horrible fictions acted upon are wrong, and to continue to support such fictions of horror can only mean one thing to a reasonable person.
Naseem wrote:
"Well one way you could prove it from my perspective....is to quit the Amerike and move to Lahore as a neighbour and see for yourself."
This statement reaffirms the old adage that "misery loves company". Indeed.
Quit the Amerike and move to Lahore???
Any revelation into the cognitive musings of one of the Naseems is often too painful to even read, yet alone contemplate.
I could care less what that Pope said.
Read what Jesus said!
I do. He said (to the apostles, including Peter), "He who hears you, hears me." He also said, "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church."
I'm waiting for CAIR & the MSM to denounce ahmadinejads comments. I'm sure those comments fall under racism. I'm waitin'..........still waitin'..........Oh wait is that ibraham hooper stepping up to the podium?
hooper:- " I want to address the racism in this new book that was released by Robert Spencer....yadayadayada"
that is how this will play out I could pretty much bet on it.
Naseem, I will always be a kuffar and I will proudly admit it. To be hated by a group of thugs is an honor! I know the truth and I know you worship a false idol.
Nasseem, move to Lahore?? Sheesh, I'd be dead in a week. You see, I know my place here in N America. I am "allowed" to speak my mind, and speak it I do. I am "allowed" to work, and work I do. I am "allowed" to drive, and drive I do. I am "allowed" to choose my own husband, yada yada yada.....
There was a time I wanted to visit your country (if you really are in Pakistan) but that time has passed. I don't feel like putting brown dye on my skin and dying my hair black to survive a trip there.
I would take Isabella up on her invitation to the beach, you can actually NOT wear burkas there!!! Can you believe it???
the knowledge of Muslims plan of the eradication of Non Muslims is learned from the study of historical fact....by studying the writing of the Quran, the Hadiths, and the Siras, I have become convinced that all are violent in nature and have discovered that the Islamic terrorist around the world use these very words to justify their violent acts....It is easy to relate these writing to the Muslims (after all, these writing are what they study and use in their mosque sermons, their Shar'ia courts, and in justification of their attacks on Non Muslims)....I have discovered many ways in which Muslims distort the truth, I have discovered what their plans are, I have discovered the methods they Use, I have learned to understand what they are really saying when they speak....I have discovered Muslims have ruined everything they touch....
all these and more are why I insist on banning Muslim immigration...I once was blind, but now I see....
Gymgal,
You are definitely invited to come along to the beach! Actually, Naseem could bring her burka because it would make a nice beach blanket in which to lie on while we read some books, eat some board fries and enjoy the sound of the waves crashing on the shore. But I always bring a beach chair for everyone so she could just use her burka to put her stuff on.
Notice how she never takes me up on the invitation? 'Kind of like how she never answers questions that make her feel squirmy, like when someone brings up the murderous atrocities and rapine that Islam has become so famous for. I guess in Ahmadi la-la land, none of those things happen. But alas, there don't seem to be too many trips to the beach either.
Infidel,
I got your beer and bandages, baby!
Naseem stated: "you just read JW...which never has anything good to say about Islam and muslims ...EVER"
Yeah -- you got that right, Naseem. JW never has anything good to say about Islam/Muslims because they keep the headlines coming faster than the speed of light. JW is only reporting what Islam/Muslims are dishing out.
Funny, none of the other news sources have anything "good" to say about Islam either. Hmmm.
naseem:
Your statement that Muslims can live with non-Muslims is Kuranic blasphemy!
Might I remind you of the Surah 9.5 verse which goes as follows: "and when the forbidden months have passed, slay the unbelievers everywhere they are found; besiege them, capture them, torture them, prepare every strategem of warfare against them; levy the poor tax upon their conversion to the ways of al-lah..."
Assalamau Laikum Pythagoras,
Please do not overuse surah 9.5 to death. I personally would like to see it taken out ...but I suppose it was necessary for Muhd SAW, so it stays.
My interpetration is that it should be used only in a time of war...and not always....otherwise muslims would be fighting all the time...but clearly this is not true.
Isabella...I had a bellyful of the beach when I went to look after Anwer's auntie in Karachi. You may know that Karachi is by the sea....only Karachi was flooded...and I was glad to see the back of so much water.
As for beer drinking by the sea...you know that liqor is bad for you and forbidden in Islam...so I don't drink liqor...it is a filthy habit.
Assalamau Laikum champ,
I thought that you are supposed to be my friend...I sense a lot of hate from you...I though that Jesus PBUh was supposed to teach you to befriend all muslims...what happened?
Big words from a Country havung troubles growing Tomatos. Not to mention Gasoline...
If Iran has been getting alot of hardware fron Russia, it will only be a mater of time before he uses it.
Naseem,
We've been over this before, and I've already told you that I don't hate you -- but it's Islam that I hate.
Islam is an evil black hole, and it destroys everything & everyone it comes in contact with; and as your friend I would encourage you to wake up and get out.
I also hates lies, so be prepared for a friendly fight.
....and....
Jesus didn't teach Christians to befriend all Muslims -- where did you ever hear that? But Jesus did teach his followers to love our enemies; and sometimes love is tough, which is the kind of love I'm using on you when I confront your lies and your defense of evil Islam.
Love doesn't sit idly by and watch as other's destroy themselves or others. Love tells the Truth -- Love confronts lies -- and Love never fails to do just that!
Make no mistake, Naseem, I do love you, because I'm willing to point you in the right direction and away from Islams destructive path. If I didn't love you, then I would agree to Islams lies and hide you from the Truth.
Jesus never asked me to do his dirty work.
That is the big difference expressed in simple terms.
Unconditional love vs. conditional.
"otherwise muslims would be fighting all the time..."
....in todays real time world...it appears Muslims are fighting all the time...where ever they have the majority.....it is a fact...that if no infidels are around to kill, the Muslims turn on each other....all the time....
Naseem is a man that pretends to be a woman (islamic abuse fantasy). HE lives in the UK.
The Goobs,
I've suspect the same thing for quite a while. Naseem is either a citizen of a western, English speaking, country or has spent very extensive time in one. 'Her' command of the language generally is a little bit too good.
Irregardless, I sincerely pray that she puts idol worship aside and embraces the joy and peace that only comes from a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
Naseem,
You miss the point completely. Going to the beach is about spending time with friends and relaxing. And I offered you a margarita, not beer. You can even get a virgin one so that there isn't a drop of alcohol in it, although I must say you could use a shot of tequila.
One question: in the filty habit category would you say drinking beer is filthier than your big muslim hunks having sex with little girls, little boys or the occasional farm animal? I'd like an answer to that one, Naseem.
Get something straight, girfriend; you want to be friends? Then you'll have to rethink your habit of constantly coming on here and telling us how it will be when we're all Muslim. We're not going to be Muslims, not now, not ever. You can try it but it will end in a lot of people dying. You don't care about that though, do you, since you Muslims love death like we love Coca-cola.
As far as jumping on Champ with the old "I though that Jesus PBUh was supposed to teach you to befriend all muslims...what happened?" spare us. We are commanded to love our enemies but there is no commandment that says "act stupid around Muslims and surrender your children's lives to their evil designs." You'll have to go back and read it again.
I'll tell you what happened though; you jumped the gun. The internet works both ways. It may allow for jihad recruitment and training but it also allows for the lightning speed dissemination of information. If your folks didn't want us to know about what really goes on in Islam, you shouldn't be advertising it all over the place. Just like you use our laws and systems to try and implement Sharia, we use the stupid things your people do to sound the alarm, expose your deceit and show others what you are really about. And they are awakening.
When Americans get P.O.'d, watch out. You can push and push and push but just like in WWII, one day when we've had enough, the fall out from our response will completely shock and devastate you. You won't be provoking anyone on that day.
livefreeordie!,
The difference between the Muslim and the Christian faiths is the fact that the latter believes in the importance of spiritual relationship with the Lord God.
Guys,
I used to think Naseem might be several different people, all using the same name. But Hugh has assured us that she is a woman and does in fact post from a computer in Lahore. It's easy to see why you would think that though, since she sometimes resembles Sybil.
Hi bigcatgirl,
Very true. Even the hardest hearted pagan can see the light, though, and it's worth praying for. Jesus (All praise and glory and honor be unto Him alone!) gave us the great commission- to go out in the world and spread the Good News of His redeeming grace.
If you have the chance, there are some videos produced by Voice of the Martyrs that are worth seeing. One video was a group of young believers in Iran! The group is small but growing all the time. Some of the converts are from Qom!!
No matter what the level of human created repression, people get tired of living in slavery and they reach out to the only thing that can really set them free. That's why the commies hate Christians so much- they can only kill the body of a believer, not the spirit. It's the same with these IslamoNazi's. They try their best by any and all means to destroy Jesus, but I've read the end of The Book: all their efforts will end in failure.
Whether she knows Him or not, Jesus knows Naseem thorugh and through and looks on sadly as she rejects Him time amd time again. Whether Naseem is a man or a woman, living in the east or the west, Jesus is calling her home.
I humbly ask that you pray for Naseem. Lift her up in prayer again and again, that she will finally see the light. Wouldn't it be wonderful one day, when this life is over, to walk the streets of the New Jerusalem and bump into a sister in christ named Naseem?
"Wouldn't it be wonderful one day, when this life is over, to walk the streets of the New Jerusalem and bump into a sister in christ named Naseem?"....absolutely!
"She [Naseem] sometimes resembles Sybil (victim of multiple personality disorder)" - Isabella.
Isabella - I think you are seeing something important.
I do sometimes feel that the more thoroughly and wilfully a person is 'submitted' to Islam, then, whether one speaks as a rationalist seeing that person as victim of a destructive 'meme', or as a Christian seeing the person in thrall to a hostile spiritual entity, the less whole that person's psyche will be. Islam is so antihuman that the victim's own human-ness, considered in the best sense, struggles and resists being forced into that procrustean bed. The system of classic, Quranic Islam is, viewed objectively, abusive in the extreme. It probably does, sometimes, split people's personalities.
And so: what happens here in our exchanges with certain Muslim daawa artists or agents provocateurs - and what happens when Robert, in particular, or Bat Yeor or Hirsi Ali, engages with the hardcore taqiyya artists - is almost analogical to what psychologist M Scott Peck, in "People of the Lie", describes as happening in an exorcism. See what you think (and remember, you can interpret this rationalistically, in psychiatric/ psychological terms, if you like):
""silence seemed the most effective of the many means used for the final penetration of the Pretence. The team would speak either with the patient's healthy core personality or the demon/s, but would refuse to speak with some unclear mixture of the two. It took some time before the team in each case [Peck observed and took part in two such] became adept at doing this. For the demon itself seemed to have a marked ability to draw the exorcist or team into confusing conversation that went nowhere."
"But as the team became more perceptive and steadfastly refused to be sucked in, both these patients began to alternate between a progressively more healthy-appearing core personality and a progressively more ugly secondary personality, until suddenly the secondary personality took on inhuman features and the Pretence was broken".
Look up the book and read the chapter 'of possession and exorcism' - it's really thought-provoking, in light of all our experiences, and your own conversations especially, with 'Naseem'. (The 2nd chapter - towards a psychology of evil' has some interesting and useful insights as well).
(Peck warns that anyone who engages in this kind of spiritual combat, the attempt to disentangle a messed-up human being from that which entangles them, must do so out of love, or they will fail; he also notes that unless the victim, the 'possessed' at some level desires to be freed, nothing will be achieved).
Champ - great comment as regards 'tough love'.