"I did not desert the force because I feared death, but I was not sure whether the fighting in tribal district Waziristan was Islamic or not." This is yet another indication of the fact that Al-Qaeda and other jihadists are not repudiated by all too many other Muslims. It also shows why the jihadist appeal to peaceful Muslims on the basis of Islamic purity meets with such success.
"Scores of Pak soldiers desert forces," from the Times of India (thanks to all who sent this in):
ISLAMABAD: Scores of Pakistani soldiers have deserted the security forces deployed in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan, mainly because they were not sure whether fighting against their 'own people' was morally right, media reports said on Saturday."I did not desert the force because I feared death, but I was not sure whether the fighting in tribal district Waziristan was Islamic or not," a soldier from paramilitary Frontier Corps told the Daily Times.
The man, who recently refused to serve in tribal areas, claimed the same question was haunting many other soldiers and the confusion was stopping them from "putting up a tough fight" against the Taliban and Al-Qaida elements in the area. Pro-Taliban militiamen pulled out of peace treaties with the government after troops stormed the Lal Masjid in the capital on July 10, and launched a series of raids on security forces.
He confirmed the desertions but insisted these should be ignored as "insignificant incidents”. "Small-scale desertion takes place in any force and in any country for one reason or another," Arshad told the newspaper.
However, six soldiers from only one suburb of Peshawar, the capital of North-West Frontier Province, have deserted the Frontier Corps. The force is the first line of defence of around 90,000 troops deployed along the country’s western border against militants launching attacks at international forces in Afghanistan.
Since militant Jihad is the core of Islamic expansionism, how can any truly believing Muslim not turn into a Mohammedan terrorist?
The problem of the 21st century.
This is not unusual. I recommend this short book, which is free of political correctness,
The Savage Frontier: A History of the Anglo-Afghan Wars by D.S. Richards.
When the British policed this frontier they found that "You cannot buy the loyalty of the tribesmen, you can only rent it."
Absolutely. They are pawns of the infidels against true Muslims. There is really NO other way to see it. And its not as though fighting for General Mush-Around is inspiring in any sense of the word.
This is not unusual. I recommend this short book, which is free of political correctness,
The Savage Frontier: A History of the Anglo-Afghan Wars by D.S. Richards.
When the British policed this frontier they found that "You cannot buy the loyalty of the tribesmen, you can only rent it."
oh yeah see what these wimps say when the true muslims kill one of their family members, it will be true muslims killing each other as in all other ME areas.
And how long will it be before the Paki's sneak one of their nukes out the back door for the same reason ?
Multiple nukes stationed all over their country, under guard by many generals and colonels. How long til ONE of them is coerced into doing the Taliban's bidding ?
All it will take is to slip just one of those badboys out the back door.
Nobody will know...........and if they do find out (after the fact) they will NOT tell anybody for fear that if the bomb is used on the west....
..........retaliation will come.
Best to keep quiet.........
And how long will it be before the Paki's sneak one of their nukes out the back door for the same reason ?
Multiple nukes stationed all over their country, under guard by many generals and colonels. How long til ONE of them is coerced into doing the Taliban's bidding ?
All it will take is to slip just one of those badboys out the back door.
Nobody will know...........and if they do find out (after the fact) they will NOT tell anybody for fear that if the bomb is used on the west....
..........retaliation will come.
Best to keep quiet.........
And how long will it be before the Paki's sneak one of their nukes out the back door for the same reason ?
Multiple nukes stationed all over their country, under guard by many generals and colonels. How long til ONE of them is coerced into doing the Taliban's bidding ?
All it will take is to slip just one of those badboys out the back door.
Nobody will know...........and if they do find out (after the fact) they will NOT tell anybody for fear that if the bomb is used on the west....
..........retaliation will come.
Best to keep quiet.........
With Pakistan being the home to some 90 nuclear warheads such desertions ought to be cause for concern for those in the west.
Because sooner or later some of these defectors will take it upon themselves to kill the big apostate Mushareff. And when that happens we better be able to grab those nukes or take them out before the fundies use them to nuke India, Israel and the U.S.
We're getting closer and closer to crunch time.
Who is Arshad? Is he the deserter?
Loved the terminology:
"insignificant incidents"
"small scale desertion"
Goes right along with the idea that:
Terrorists aren't true Muslims. They have "hijacked" the religion and don't represent the vast majority of believers.
But if the terrorists aren't "true Muslims" then why would fighting them be unislamic?
They get you coming or going.
Who is setting Greece on fire?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0827/p01s03-woeu.html
Tonight I made a deal with my Mutta. We will walk from Newcastle to Carlisle along Hadrian’s Wall starting next Monday. Its eighty miles of splendid scenery and history and it marked the northern boundary of the Roman Empire.
My dad is in Balad. He will be spending that week in bed and working at night because it is too hot to work during the day.
My bro’, who has done two years at Balad and Camp Stryker, is now working in Holland for Caterpillar on Dutch barges. He has done his time down range (he was there when Balad was Mortorhitaville). Now he wants a quiet life with his missus.
I have done my bit; I got a divisional coin and a handshake in early 2004 from the 2ic of the 1st ID. My part was putting the 1st ID on the barges and then sorting the stay back.
So feck all these jihad merchants, my family are not passers by in this war. We are doing our part.
Hmmm...once again even Obama could figure this out. Really how hard can this be. Pakistan is not going to anything to stop Taliban II because hello they all belong to the ROP.
It sickens me that we are parading around dunes of Iraq wasting billions of dollars and the men who directed, planned, and ordered the death of thousands of Americans are living it up in Paki-land becoming video and internet stars.
And yes they do matter....and should matter to every American. This should be personal. Our dead do not sleep until Ayman Al-Zawahiri is dead. We owe them that much.
PMK: Excellent point. If the terrorists are such a tiny and unislamic minority, why aren't they wiped out already? We ought to have this little misunderstanding wrapped up by lunchtime Thursday.
No? There's a problem? Ya think?
Mosque Jihad Downunder: “They used violence and force … to control a mosque..”
* Shocks, horror! And you thought mosques are houses of worship, right?
* But not to worry, nothing that can’t be fixed:
Lets give them money to build another mosque!
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/08/26/australia-mosque-jihad-they-used-violence-and-force-to-control-a-mosque/
The true allegiance of all muslims must be questioned, including those with whom we are in the trenches.
At the Red Mosque, the troops on "our side" held back, as if they knew what was coming. It's time to cut these people loose if they don't want to keep their own countries.
This is no Vietnam parallel, except for the fact that we are fighting another proxy war with nations who should be our allies.
They are most likely just cowards who lack a sense of duty - desertion - shoot em.
But they might be jihadists as well - desertion again, in which case they should be shot twice.
CIA - Fact book
Pakistan is 97% Muslim
Will they support the jihadist who are fighting for the honor of Allah or for pagan Americans who give out evil out soccer balls to children. So lets see who are they going to support...I know its a hard one!
Well since "moderate muslims" & "American muslims" are the answer,I guesst he qustion is, "what do you do with all these fucking infidels"?
The positive side of the story is that Cyprus, Serbia, Israel, Italy and some others are all helping Greece with this calamity.
This is yet another example of the Pakistani Army's meddling in political affairs. You sign up for an army, you're serving in the Army, you carry out your mission--you do NOT enact policy. Musharraf does not understand this, the Army does not understand this, but they must. It's time to send the Pakistani army back to the barracks--Go Musharraf Go!
Sooner or later, we have to come to the realization and acceptance that Pakistani military, ISI, Al-Qaeda, Hum, PLO, Hamas, Fatah, Abu-Sayyaf, CAIR, MSA, MQM, Muslim brotherhood, Hizballah.... are differeent faces of the same Umma.
Sooner or later, we have to come to the realization and acceptance that Pakistani military, ISI, Al-Qaeda, Hum, PLO, Hamas, Fatah, Abu-Sayyaf, CAIR, MSA, MQM, Muslim brotherhood, Hizballah.... are different faces of the same Umma.
Hey Paki's! What the heaven do you want?
Unislamic actions? How about you all develop a governing body indiscriminate of faith, but based upon the free will of MAN! Let those so inclined to follow the words of Allah revealed through Mohammad, to follow their own undisrupted idealogy! And allow other followers of the significant, to portend their beliefs as well! May the most Holy survive under an umbrella of fairness! Let the masses choose!
Oh! Does this sound like Democracy! Well excuse me! Perhaps you all need to inwardly address your personal feelings, and consider the fellow citizens of this palnet.
If not, you will perish! History proves same!!!!
Hollywood 'shit-files' actor Duchowsky chooses mosque for blowjob...
No: correct that.
Its safer in a church, of course!
Why risk upsetting the ummah..?
I guess "ummm"rs will never be the same after this, eh.
In the end, all good Muslims will follow Mohammed's example, which is today being best represented by Al Qaeda and Taliban.
The idea of a "moderate" Muslim majority is a myth. Most Muslims may not personally be involved in violence, but that doesn't mean they don't support such behavior. Just look at how quiet that "moderate" majority is every time their "extremist" brothers kill infidels.
....how many of the Pakistani army deserters have joined the Taliban to kill Americans....more than a few,, I will wager...
Ban Muslim Immigration...
Sheik, when I heard of the fires in Greece my first thought was: Turks/moslems. Of course they were steering the topic to "real estate developers and speculators" on [in case you didn't know it's a Guvmint-paid for PC station] n.ational p.alestinian r.adio here in New York.
Yeah and 9/11 was a group of 19 "angry white males".
ROFLMAO!!
The absurdity of LiEberals and their PC is so very laughable. If only it weren't so dangerous for us all!