Unconstitutional. "School to provide Muslim students with foot baths," by Andrea Billups for the Washington Times (thanks to all who sent this in):
DEARBORN, Mich. — Plans to construct two foot-washing stations continue at the University of Michigan at Dearborn amid concerns that such action would constitute an establishment of religion by the public university.The 8,700-student school near Detroit, which begins fall classes Tuesday, came under criticism in June when it announced that it would spend about $25,000 on the two foot-washing areas that were requested as an accommodation by a Muslim Student Association's task force. The foot baths come while the state is in a budget crisis and tuition and fees have risen at all of the state's public universities, up 7.9 percent at the Dearborn campus alone.
Data from a study of entering freshmen suggest that about 10 percent of students at the university are Muslim, and many have in the past used bathroom sinks for the foot washing, called an ablution, which Islam requires as a purity ritual before its five-times-daily prayers.
The cleansing practice prompted concerns from other students and administrators that it was not only unsanitary but also created a safety hazard by making the lavatory floors wet. The new foot-washing stations, built at ground level, are part of a renovation project at two locations on campus and will be paid for with money from the school's general fund.
The foot baths, while benefiting Muslim students, are open for use by all students and will be located in two new unisex bathrooms that will be renovated on campus.
The university, in a statement posted on its Web site, said the foot baths reflect a "strong commitment to a pluralistic society" and "a reflection of our values of respect, tolerance and safe accommodation of student needs."
Will it be considered islamophobic, racist, or a hate crime to take a dump in the foot bath?
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Old news - Debbie Schlussel had exposed this a while back
The Jesuit univerity I attended created prayer rooms throughout the campus for muslims. Now, whenever they call for endowment donations, I suggest they contact the Dar al-Islam Mosque.
"The university, in a statement posted on its Web site, said the foot baths reflect a "strong commitment to a pluralistic society" and "a reflection of our values of respect, tolerance and safe accommodation of student needs."
.......MORE like fear of Muslim intimidation and/or violent actions....
....the school long ago removed from its halls: a copy of the ten commandments, a copy of the Declaration of Independence, and the photograph of the President.....
....so much for the education of Americas youths...
...they are learning to bow before Islam....
If 10% of the students were Satanists, I guess they'd have to construct a pentagram and provide black cats for daily worship.
"It's that old wudu magic that someone is weaving so well/That old wudu magic that has the Provost in its spell/That old wudu magic dum dum dum sorry I forget the rest but please just hum along with me and Mitch..."
Dearborn and Oakland are both slums of which I have shaken off the dust.
That reminds me, You remind me of a man! What man? The man of power! What power? The power of voodoo! Who do? You do! Do what? Remind me of a man! What man? ..........
Hugh,
I prefer Louie Prima's version, sung as a duo with his wife.
Back on track,
My alma mater's been hitting on me for a donation. I learned recently that they're also installing Muhammadan footbaths.
So I mailed them a torn dirty dollar bill with a note:
"Use for Muhammadan footbaths."
Don't expect I'll be bothered by them again.
To paraphrase Star Trek, "The needs of the few, or of the one outweigh the needs of the many" This is nothing more than another inroad by Muslims to achieve the "protected" class they so desperately need to continue their slow but sure creep into the heart of American society. By bowing to Islamic pressure the regents at the school have shown their utter disregard for the principles of "tolerance" which they so adamantly defend. Where is the Christian vestibule for prayer, or the Jewish room or the Catholic room, even the Hindu or Buddist room? Ahhh.....I know, those are "forbidden" religions and not to be allowed on campus, ostensibly so as not to cause Muslim students to be afraid of the evil and dangerous tenants of those theologies. And for them to say that all students can use these baths is a affront to Muslims, as anybody else would use them for a purpose other than Muslim worship. I can hear the howls of outrage when the MSA learns that their sacred footbaths have been used for things like rinsing the head after a hard, sweaty game, or for those whose feet get hot and bothered and want a refreshing spritz before changing into street clothes. If anything is to be learned from this, it should be that Muslims are "special" and should be treated as such. As Tomilio stated above, I do wonder if these floor level "footbaths" will be used for the "cleansing" of the bowels. After all, cleanliness is next to Allahness, isn't it?
"Apostates of the world, Unite!"
"Stop Muslim immigration now"
"Islam, abusing women since 622AD"
This is to much trying to mix their cultures-beliefs into our dailey living each day!? Why did the government allow this? Besides what good are clean feet if the rest of ya isn't? Even Jesus washed someone else's feet and his feet were washed by someone. Not like this! ? What did they do back HOME? How come we have never seen how they did it before they GOT HERE?! wha whaaa
The foot baths, while benefiting Muslim students, are open for use by all students and will be located in two new unisex bathrooms that will be renovated on campus.
Open to all students? Excellent. Would someone please throw in a pack of bacon, or how about some Jimmy Dean pork sausage?
But.......how can a good muslim or muslimah use a UNISEX bathroom? Ol' Mo would never allow such a thing. And then having to share the facilities with evil, slutty western womens and male infidels as well? How could this happen?
The demonstration is probably being planned even as we speak.
Greetings:
Many times, more than I can remember, my father would say to me, "There's a difference between a reason and an excuse. An excuse is a bad reason."
Still missing him.
"The demonstration is probably being planned even as we speak.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi"
...i think it was planned even earlier...
As a magna cum laude graduate of U of M Ann Arbor, I was deeply disturbed when I first read Debbie Schlussel’s exclusive account on her blog of this U of M Dearborn travesty back in May 2007. So, in disgust and dismay, I promptly wrote the Vice Chancellor, Robert Behrens, and detailed in no uncertain terms how I considered this misuse of public funds to be grossly unconstitutional. To my utter amazement, Chancellor Behrens promptly responded, however, with a disappointing, categorical denial of any tax funds being associated with the construction of the foot baths. Frustrated: I left it at that but took away an abiding sense of shame for my former Alma matter and its regrettable decision.
Recently, however, I was given a supreme opportunity for retribution when the U of M Student Association called my home in a fund raising drive. I politely responded ‘no’ to each of the three requests the earnest & persistent young lady made for donations beginning with $250 dollars and ending with a modest $35. The supreme coup d’etat for me was when I politely gave her the reason for my refusal: my shame at my Alma mater for its muslim foot-bath fiasco. Surprisingly, her response was that this was not the first time she had heard this complaint and that she would relay my response on to her superiors. Perhaps – just perhaps – they will listen and reconsider -particularly if others voice their own disgust as I have.
Should anyone care to contact Mr. Behrens, who is the responsible individual in charge of Business Affairs at U of M Dearborn, the Vice Chancellor can reached at:
Office of the Vice Chancellor
Robert G Behrens
1090 Administration Building
Dearborn, MI 48128
Phone: (313) 593-5110
Ooops... I thought it was a foot level urinal.
Foot baths are not needed for hygine. Foot washing is commanded before Muslim prayer. This is an unlawful estblishment of religion in a public school. The Muslims can build thaire own universties if thay want this crap. We have many private religous schools in the US.
The school says it is not establishing religion, but if you difyle the baths I bet it becomes a hate crime.
I'd watch it with that "supreme coup d'etat" stuff. You never know where the next campus caudillo is coming from.
"...a reflection of our values of respect, tolerance and safe accommodation of student needs."
Too bad it's not reciprocal.
Open to all students? Excellent. Would someone please throw in a pack of bacon, or how about some Jimmy Dean pork sausage?
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi
Use Beef sausage. When thay nail you for a hate crime you can beet the rap if you don't use pork.
I just hope that infidels use it too. EVeryone better be allowed to wash their feet and if not... a lawsuit that there is prejudice and racism. This could be a good opportunity for infidels to start lawsuits against their intolerance.
Notice to all kufaars. The only way these foot baths can be constructed is if you can make use of them too. Use them! Wash your feet, clip your nails into the basin. Hark up a loogie. Use the public foot baths.
Can the footbaths double as bidets for non-Moslems?
Remember that every part of our unbelieving body is najas or unclean.
The following ten things are essentially najis:
Urine
Faeces
Semen
Dead body
Blood
Dog
Pig
Kafir
Alcoholic liquors
The sweat of an animal who persistently eats najasat
This from al-Sistani
Does your dog need a drink? Or a place for your empties?
Hold on there, Abdul-Aziz. I'll be out as soon as I wash the brine off of my pickled pigs feet between class snack
"Use the public footbaths"
-interestinconundrum
If my taxdollars fund them,you had better believe it. Which is exactly what should be said,in a rather casual manner,to any and all who inquire as to why one is utilizing them as a hand basin. Two can play at this game,if one party is hoping for exclusive use of the footbaths,a disclaimer must appear reading "for Muslim use only." Until then,fair game. Then the cat would be out of the bag for the naive or even conscious Muslim enablers. Civil rights lawsuits can be a two way street if applied to the Achilles heal of the kumbaya crowd and the cries of "this must stop,this is just Jim Crow all over again" could be justifiably trumpeted through those hollowed halls.
Thanks, Hugh. Did you have in mind a 'caudillo' such as Generalissimo Ellison? I will surely be wary from now on.
Tomilio:
Will it be considered islamophobic, racist, or a hate crime to take a dump in the foot bath?
...and is it I, R or HC to do so from both ends?
Tomilio:
Will it be considered islamophobic, racist, or a hate crime to take a dump in the foot bath?
...and is it I, R or HC to do so from both ends?
The foot baths, while benefiting Muslim students, are open for use by all students and will be located in two new unisex bathrooms that will be renovated on campus. From the article
Unisex bathrooms!!! That'll fly like a fat pig. When the Mohammedan students wind of this there will be a riot. Separation of the sexes is a very important feature of Mohammedan paranoia.
Unless there are state laws that make it a crime to urinate in a sink, or defecate in a urinal, I can't see where one could be prosecuted for spitting or draining one's lizard in a foot bath. If the state tries to turn it into a possible hate crime, the state might run afoul of the separation clause.
I recommend that all Jewish, Hindu, and Christian, students make use of the footbaths regularly.
This is win-win for kuffars, when the Muslim students complain, one can say, GFY.
Pelayo said:
"I recommend that all Jewish, Hindu, and Christian, students make use of the footbaths regularly."
May I add that the timing of such use should be done just before prayer times so that it is necessay for one to wait to use one. Get about 20 or so Hindus, Buddists, Christians and Jews at one time washing their feet and hands about two minutes before prayer time and share the love.
Y'all are arousing the provocateur that resides deep inside my psyche. I'm sitting here trying to think of ways that a kuffar could cause trouble with the footbath.
When will it end?
The publicly funded footbasin installation craze is in full swing. The usual excuse offered by trustees of public funds who agree to these expenditures is that handbasins are an unacceptable alternative for the Muslim wudu religious ritual. There is no scientific or logical purpose for such behaviour in a society like the United States where general hygienic practices using the existing facilities suffice to prevent the transmission of most communicable diseases. It is a purely religious rite, hocus-pocus in its entirety. It seems that the camel has finally succeeded in gaining admission to the tent for his entire head.
It all started with accomodation of Islamic female attire in the workplace and schools. Next came the press for “prayer” rooms (like the one inside the most sensitive security zone at American Airlines headquarters for its Muslim employees whose co-religionists murdered 3,000 civilians with two of American Airline’s own aircraft on 9/11). The demands for halal kitchens in the workplace and schools are also increasing.
How long before we see corporate sponsored chapels and temples? Where are the publicly funded baptismal fonts or holy water receptacles beside the doors of the “all-faiths” meditation rooms? A good start would be the installation of roman numerals along the walls of these so-called “prayer” rooms so that Catholic employees can perform their stations of the cross ritual during their “prayer” breaks. Kosher kitchens are needed as well. How about a Buddhist public magnet school (I’ll bet there are enough Buddhists in Hawaii to justify one)? And what’s a “prayer” room without padded kneeling benches?
Where does it end? That is the point actually. It doesn’t end until We the People insist that the trustees of our tax revenues pay closer attention in civics class when the 1st Amendment to the Constitution for the United States is discussed.
The use of public washbasins for religious ritual is not a right granted by the Constitution, at least not the Constitution for the United States. The expenditure of public funds for such religious accoutrements is most certainly a failure of public trust and an egregious infringement of the rights of all tax payers.
Bacon and Jimmy Dean are your friends in this instance. If I was a outraged student at Ann Arbor I'd make sure to leave some in each foot bath as a token of my appreciation.
Though I'm suprised no one has yet poured in some fast drying cement late at night in these foot baths to protest this or M-80 them as kids at my highschool used to do to toilets.
if they want foot baths fine but watch the fuss
that cair will make the first time on non-Muslim washes their feet in the Muslims foot baths calling it a hate crime despite the University stating that the foot baths were for all
Tomilo...you asked would it be wrong to take a dump in a footbath?
It is a double standard. The schools and administrators don't really view the footbaths a religous symbols. You and I know they are, but the administrators don't.
But you take a dump in one and CAIR and the ACLU will come down on you with 'Hate Crime' charges against a religion. Go figure.
So, footbaths are not a religous symbol. But don't you dare do something to a footbath or you will see how quickly it becomes a religous symbol.
But things like Nativity scenes, Christmas trees, or a cross are considered religous symbols. Do something like take a dump on one of those and nothing will happen. You won't even find a law enforcement officer that would respond to you.
Great suggestions from previous posts above. I've never really been into pro organized sports... but if I were to have a "dream team" of sorts, or a "dream circumstance" I would dream for a blind, intoxicated, female student bringing her seeing eye dog into the foot-washing room after a Friday morning unwed sexual romp with her Jewish boyfriend. Oh yeah... and her pockets are full of pork sausage treats for her seeing eye pooch.
/MAN that helps me blow off some steam!
Billof goods - I'm not Jewish, but aside from that, I think I've dated that girl...
CAIR or the Saudis can't come up with 25 large?
Maybe they used up all the old money.
tanstaafl - Why would they spend their 25 g's when they can spend yours? It must feel sooo good to see the dhimmis sharpening the sword that will be used to decapitate them.
We don't want these poor deprived Muslim students to slip and hurt themselves. Adhesive no-slip strips should be installed in each foot bath.
I recommend they be installed in the shape of a cross for maximum protection.
A cross would only be safe in two directions. For maximum safety it would have to be a Star of David.
Wait a minute. Let's consider what is being related here.
"The foot baths, while benefiting Muslim students, are open for use by all students and will be located in two new unisex bathrooms that will be renovated on campus."
What I'm surprised at is that these pillars of piety would allow for "two new unisex bathrooms".
traeh,
I applaud your efforts, but I honestly think you are wasting your time. I wrote a letter to Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas protesting the sales of arms to Saudi Arabia. I received a response back, which I'm sure was a form letter.
The letter was talking about the Senator's position on arms exports. I did not write about arms exports, I wrote specifically about arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia was not mentioned in her response. I believe her staff read it and based on the topic, replied with a generic form letter for that purpose.
If they don't bother to read a letter and instead let the staff do the work, what do you think will happen to the book in the filtering process?
As soon as the foot washing muslims see filthy kaffurs washing their feet in these basins, they will start demanding additional foot washes for muslims only.
All of the above suggestions about Kafirs using the basins as well assumes that the Kafirs wear yearlong flip-flops, sandals or other footwear without socks so that they can simply wash their feet, like at the beach, and put on their sandals again. But what about when everyone wears the usual socks and shoes - particularly during winter? At that time, the Kafirs would be dis-inclined to go through the trouble of removing their shoes and socks, washing their feet, drying it with a towel and then putting them on again - too much of a hassle. For the Mohammedans, however, all of that would be routine.
I prefer the option of urinating or defecating in those. Alternative - wear rain boots to that place, and then wash them there, without taking them off. Who'd have the grounds to object?
Surrender, by any other name ("respect, tolerance"), still stinks of craven capitulation.
Tolerating the intolerant is suicide.
Respecting that which has contempt for you is madness.
The Solution to Muslim Baths in Public Buildings is Civil Disobedience. Each person protesting will immerse the floor in PIG's BLOOD and leave a Dried PIG'S EAR or PICKLED PIG's FOOT ( labeled on a note or tag as pig's foot or ear and blood even better), in The Ritual Bath as they are open to all citizen's. No Fundamentalist Muslim will step foot in them when confronted with the taboo Pig's Blood or Pig's Parts!
If confronted by the University or School's Staff they must explain that their religion allows one to eat whatever they want when hungry to sustain the body , which is the temple of the soul and must be preserved at all costs!
You can get all the pig's parts you need at your local butcher shop!
Reckon they let me rinse the dirt off my python boots when I pay them a visit?
If the alternative is that they wash their filthy feet in the sink, for which they should be arrested, I guess foot baths make sense to the administration at UofM. I still find it un-American to establish a religion like this.
Will it be considered islamophobic, racist, or a hate crime to take a dump in the foot bath?
Posted by: Tomilio
I would consider it gross, and at the same time patriotic. islam is grosser than anything and anything is fair game.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
What happens if I step in dogsh*t in sandals and need to wash my feet afterwards? I see a sign saying "footbaths - open to all" and the next thing I know I'm CAIR's latest whipping boy ..
.. I am currently registering even higher levels of cognitive dissonance than usual over this issue ..
strange how I have to be "tolerant" of the most intransigent intolerant group of people in the world ...
The Universities in the USA and Canada are frightened that if they do not accede to Muslim demands and one/some of their students are injured in an atrocity triggered by affronted Islamists, that university might be the subject of legal action from the student body, the kin of any injured or murdered student/professor or even cair. UNTIL THE FEDERAL & STATE GOVTS. TAKE FIRM ACTION AGAINST MUSLIM INFILTRATION YOU MUST NOT SIMPLY BLAME THE COLLEGES. The fear of the coward is no different to the preparedness of the wise .. both take measures APPROPRIATE in the circumstances.
ALSO WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING ABOUT IT?
It certainly made sense when people walked barefoot and were stepping in camel dung all day. I wouldn't let anyone in my front door without washing their feet. This minor issue points out the extent to which the religion is unchanging and anachronistic.
Obviously, this concession is money related and petro-dollar funded.
“The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.” Lenin's quote, referring to greed, could so easily have been said by a Muslim. Just replace capitalists with infidels.
American students have over 200 years experience of going to school without footbaths....and have certainly survived and thrived....tell Muslims to go back to a Muslim country....
"But things like Nativity scenes, Christmas trees, or a cross are considered religous symbols."
Posted by: alaskan1000
I recently turned on the radio and heard the host of a call-in show (here in Canada) talking about this issue.
He said something like:
"The foot basins are for everyone to use. They are not religious in nature.
"It's not like someone is hanging a CRUCIFIX on a wall!
"...Okay, so call me now and tell me how it's all a plot by the Muslims to take over the world..."
A couple of people did call in and suggest just that but he dismissed their comments.
He also emphasized the safety issue.
A woman called in, her voice oozing sympathy and mature concern, and said, "I'm just worried that some smart-aleck will come along and put bacon in the foot baths..." (I don't think she was a Muslim.)
I didn't phone in. I was too ticked off by his obvious disgust over crucifixes. I think the foot baths are a stronger endorsement of a religion than permitting a crucifix to be hung on a wall but the radio host wasn't open to hearing that.
I do feel very strongly that anyone planning any "civil disobedience" against the foot basins and their users keep in mind the current political climate and hate crime laws. I would hope that folks would think carefully and make their protests in such a way that they make a strong statement without getting in trouble with the law.
For example, using foot basins as a toilet wouldn't further our cause and would get a person in big trouble. Conviction of a felony hate crime = a criminal record.
Lady Josephine - These foot baths are in the U.S. not Canada. They are in public bathrooms, not a mosque. According to the university, they are not religious artifacts, but merely a convenience in a public convenience. How they are used will be a matter of individual choice. The reaction against them needs to be harsh enough that building them does not become common practice. Islam is a religion not a race. The structure in question is not islamic, merely a public john. They should not be vandalized as that would be illegal, but they should be used and used hard. As a forem poster to this site used to conclude....just doing some thinking...
Geez, officer, I thought they were dog watering stations!
Geez, officer, I thought they were...
The possibilities are endless... to counter this illegitimate use of school funds to bow to an approaching theocratic tyranny.
MP -- I agree with your post.
The man on the radio was talking about the foot basins in the University of Michigan.
I think a university in British Columbia, Canada is going to install Islamic foot basins, too.
I think I read that the washroom containing foot basins would be located off the prayer room in one university (but I can't remember which university). My impression (possibly incorrect) is that the washroom with foot basins wouldn't be so easy to enter surreptitiously. Time will tell.
My opinions are based on my experiences working for a large school board in Toronto. My opinion is: fight but fight smart. Know the law and know what actions you can defend in a court of law. Know the cost (financial and otherwise) that might result as a consequence of your actions. Understand the culture and mindset of those in power over you. A university student might act legally but still contravene the rules of conduct and therefore might still be disciplined by the university. How might this impact your education?
Fight but fight smart.
I've said this before but I wouldn't be surprised if all students and staff are given memos and/or sent to a diversity/sensitivity class about the new foot basins.
I'd be interested to know how many Muslim spokespersons were consulted at the planning stage vs how many Christian, Jewish, atheist, etc. spokespersons were consulted. (Seeing as how this is not a religious accommodation issue.)
I'd also love to see the plans and the finished bathrooms. It would be great if the plans could be leaked by someone.
I'm guessing the unisex designation is there for the purpose of allowing males and females to enter the room to use the foot basins.
There's no way religious Muslim women are going to go into a room with open urinals (talk about a "hate crime" against Islam). Didn't a recent article here quote an imam stating how disgusting Western men are for using open urinals? So maybe religious Muslim men wouldn't do it, either.
As a woman, I would never use a toilet in a bathroom that men also used. Those stalls are not exactly private. If women know that men will be in there, most will only use those toilets in an emergency. And, if the washroom is located at the far end of a prayer room that has been appropriated by Muslim students, it's pretty much going to be a no-go area for non-Muslims, anyway. (That's just my guess. I know I could be wrong.)
The university has opened a can of worms in more ways than one by agreeing to this outrageous demand made by its fascist muslim student association. If they wanted footbaths, they should have paid for them because despite all the denials, they are most definitely FOR RELIGIOUS PURPOSES. Muslims must perform their archaic wudu rituals before islamic prayers by washing their feet. The footbasins are for WASHING FEET BEFORE PRAYERS. If prayers are not part of practicing a religion, I don't know what is.
I'm curious to know how these footbaths will stop water from being slopped all over the place; do they plan to provide bathmats and nice, fluffy towels for the demon worshippers to throw on the floor five times a day, which will have to be laundered and replinished constantly at taxpayer expense? If paper towels are used, the wastebaskets, if they bother to put them there, will be constantly overflowing, resulting in more janitorial services. The cost for paper towels will increase as well, and who will pay for that? Let's not forget the cost of the water and soap; I assume they use soap. All of the expenses associated with footbaths for muslims will be passed on to every student in higher tuition.
I have heard horror stories about the disgusting hygeine practices of muslims and I pity the non-muslim students who are forced to use the same lavatories. This was a big mistake. Someone will slip and break a leg or neck in the mess left by foot washing muslims. Then what?
SusanP, Nope, they don't use soap for ritual "cleansing."
Hey, I think it's "slip and fall" time on the wet bathroom floors for LOTS of people to file lawsuits.
If there are toilets in these "non-religious" washrooms, I wonder which way the toilets point?
I'd love to have a look at the files on this and to be a fly on the wall at the meetings.
The footbath thing was new to me until this very day. My family and I were at a local park and off to one side was a group of very loud obnoxious muslims having a picnic(frig these people are rude) Anyway I overheard one of the guys asking the other's if they had "prepared" yet as he was walking to the washroom a few hundred feet away in bare feet carrying a roll of paper towels.
Soon the others followed so for the hell of it I followed a couple of minutes later.
Well I walk in and these pigs are washing their feet in the sink. Now remember these are dirty feet because they just walked a few hundred yard to the washrooms. Friggin filthy water splashed all over the sinks, floor etc. As I walked in they were preparing to leave and I said "Hey how about cleaning up your fucking mess other people use this". So after mumbling something in arabic they half assed cleaned up the mess and went back to their picnic where they began the "prayer service".
If I went to that University I'd be the first one in to take a piss in that footbath. These creatures wouldn't know the difference. What a pathetic lot. Enough is enough.
I was just thinking the same thing as Susanp - she hit the nail smack dab on it's head. The NYT posted . . .
Health and safety -eh? Just wait until the mess really gets underway causing one injury after another.
No soap, says Pelayo? Now, now, that is totally and hygienically unacceptable. A liquid soap dispenser is called for . . .you know the kind that perpetually dribbles on the sink counter, except that in this instance it should be located near the footbaths close to the floor.(wouldn't want anyone slipping with wet feet leaning towards a sink for a dribble of soap now would we? Combined with the expected splash of wudu - this environment is ripe for injury. . .especially for one who is not wearing slip resistant footwear on both feet. Or, are they providing stools as well?
CGW is right.
The press has had a field day with "Stancegate" and "Gay Signalgate" at the MN airport restroom. I'm wondering how soon we'll be inundated with stories of frolicking and splashing and indecent footsie in the footbaths.
Then, the judgment of the university to allow public bathing which invites public indecency will be called into question.
I just hear the conversation now. Moham-mad, would you like me to show you my naked feet? Oh, Ali, you know how the sight of your attractice, well-formed tootsies makes me swoon. By Allhnuts, it is god's will that we uncover our feet and dance together with abandon in the sacred waters of this sacred footbath while the hour of sacred prayer approaches. Let us make haste, while the premises are clear!
HOLD IT, fellas! You're under arrest for public indecency! You have the right to an attorney...blah...blah...blach. What? You maintain you had no intent to indecent cavorting? What about the naked feet? And, that signal with your left toe? Where's your pants? Aren't those your boxer shorts? I saw that, gentlemen, don't deny you were going to dance together in that holy footbath! I'm calling the Idaho Statesman! Wait, this is Michigan! Get Leno! Call Letterman! Cable News is going to shame you guys 24/7!